ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread

[mindtrip]

Agreed DIY Kits are more for the RMA shipping problems because of the s2 design/architecture of unit.   Not necessarily for increased sales.

They are between the road of clearing out farms of s1 and reorganizing the chips on new boards.

s2 was an experiment in increased power efficiency with wattage, BUT needed more chips.

s3 should be new and better chip design.

I agree they probably have the new chips going into there S2's in the farm so there selling the guts of them to the community then once they use them all at the new 2TH speed for a while they will open up a board upgrade sale to the community for us to do a self upgrade of our units with a new board and or Power Supply as Bitmain had suggested in the next month or 2 but my gut tells me he has them now and is using them all in his farm

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[Biodom]

Agreed DIY Kits are more for the RMA shipping problems because of the s2 design/architecture of unit.   Not necessarily for increased sales.

They are between the road of clearing out farms of s1 and reorganizing the chips on new boards.

s2 was an experiment in increased power efficiency with wattage, BUT needed more chips.

s3 should be new and better chip design.

I agree they probably have the new chips going into there S2's in the farm so there selling the guts of them to the community then once they use them all at the new 2TH speed for a while they will open up a board upgrade sale to the community for us to do a self upgrade of our units with a new board and or Power Supply as Bitmain had suggested in the next month or 2 but my gut tells me he has them now and is using them all in his farm

So far they have been pretty straightforward with everything. After i told them about my power board they sent me a new one in 24hr. Compare this with constant bs people are getting from other manufacturers…you know who they are.

[rhj12345]

Parts NOT Included
1.      PSU:  you shall prepare your own PSU, which is able to deliver at least 1000W at 12V, recommend 80PLUS GOLD. One Power Board includes 6 PCI-e input interfaces, which need to be connected to PSU if you'd like to assemble full 10 hash boards;
2.      Case and Hash Board Holder;
3.      Ethernet cable;
4.      Brace to hold the fans;

I assume you would also need a fan or two to go with that too?

If I were to buy one of these, it would now cost me a lot more than the assembled unit.

Fan's are included. Still this is a bad price.

[dogie]

Oh the FUD in this thread is so cringe. If the price is too high, don't buy it! That's it, end of story - it doesn't require repeating 30x.

[Xian01]

As i see it current products are priced for people who really want to buy hardware when its not wort to produce them in volumes anymore. Bitmain needs thousands of cases for S3 awesomeness launch.
Time to hodl.

 This seems like a very reasonable observation and makes sense strategically.

 The fear, however, is that Bitmain might become someone like Megabigpower or KNC that doesn't need it's customers any more.
 
 Love Bitmain's products, want to buy more, but can't rationalize an S2 kit purchase right now. Certainly looking forward to their 28nm product, and hope it is reasonably priced.

 Hodl it is, for the time being.

[xstr8guy]

As i see it current products are priced for people who really want to buy hardware when its not wort to produce them in volumes anymore. Bitmain needs thousands of cases for S3 awesomeness launch.
Time to hodl.

 This seems like a very reasonable observation and makes sense strategically.

The fear, however, is that Bitmain might become someone like Megabigpower or KNC that doesn't need it's customers any more.
 
 Love Bitmain's products, want to buy more, but can't rationalize an S2 kit purchase right now. Certainly looking forward to their 28nm product, and hope it is reasonably priced.

 Hodl it is, for the time being.

Ding ding ding! You sir most likely have the correct answer.

[taipo]

Oh the FUD in this thread is so cringe. If the price is too high, don't buy it! That's it, end of story - it doesn't require repeating 30x.

The point for me is not that the price is too high, it just appeared to go down, when for example in my case, it went up about 0.7 of a BTC due to the crazy cost of PSUs in this country. Obviously their intention is to sell the part of the S2 that works well, save having to deal with broken displays and PSUs that only last a week or so. But a PSU of the same spec as they recommend costs about $350 to $450 where I am from ( Aotearoa NZ ), add a case and other bits on to it that they listed and this change from a fully packaged miner to a kitset, works out to be an increase in cost by not a small amount, but quite a bit. So if u are someone that is collecting up BTC to buy one of these, by them going to a kitset in the way they have done, that for me means another 2 - 3 weeks of mining that I hadn't planned for. Does that make sense?

[nikauforest]

I have two free coupons expiring in less than a week.
Pm me please if you would like one of  them.

so I will give two away

I have to wait another three weeks before I buy more, so they will expire for me.

1 free  coupons expire
14-06-06 16:58:00

[bit_wizard]

I agree they probably have the new chips going into there S2's in the farm so there selling the guts of them to the community then once they use them all at the new 2TH speed for a while they will open up a board upgrade sale to the community for us to do a self upgrade of our units with a new board and or Power Supply as Bitmain had suggested in the next month or 2 but my gut tells me he has them now and is using them all in his farm

This is reality for most companies like it or not. It doesn't make financial sense to do otherwise.

[railzand]

Istanbul

[xingqiaoyin]

Oh the FUD in this thread is so cringe. If the price is too high, don't buy it! That's it, end of story - it doesn't require repeating 30x.

You don't think it's too high ?
FUD helps discourage others not to buy...
and it's not FUD...I think it's FACT that a 2309 minus enermax 1000 psu should at least be reduced 100-200$ in price..

[Beans]

Agreed DIY Kits are more for the RMA shipping problems because of the s2 design/architecture of unit.   Not necessarily for increased sales.

They are between the road of clearing out farms of s1 and reorganizing the chips on new boards.

s2 was an experiment in increased power efficiency with wattage, BUT needed more chips.

s3 should be new and better chip design.

I agree they probably have the new chips going into there S2's in the farm so there selling the guts of them to the community then once they use them all at the new 2TH speed for a while they will open up a board upgrade sale to the community for us to do a self upgrade of our units with a new board and or Power Supply as Bitmain had suggested in the next month or 2 but my gut tells me he has them now and is using them all in his farm

Try using sentences.

[nottm28]

Last S2 coupon for sale 0.1 BTC - expires Monday 2014-06-02 21:47:00

pm if you want it

[gallery2000]

S2 kit will follow the market supply and demand.  If noone is buying it, then the price will come down.  So if you don't like it, then don't buy it. Wait until the price is reasonable then execute. 

[philipma1957]

if you are going the diy route here is a good psu much better then the 1000 watt and at a very good price.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591721.msg6852895#msg6852895

[okg]

bitmain always change prices fast they will fix this error real soon im sure.

[MrFeiLong]

Hi !! I wanted to buy few AntMiners S2 in a few days but I see there's no AM S2 still available. Does anyone know will they be still available to buy? Or is bitmain planning to sell only those silly S2 kits with HUMONGOUS price? I will be very grateful for answer.

And btw, in my oppinion they made a huge mistake with giving 2260$ price for those kits. There's no PSU which costs a lot + case etc. Not smart move.

[Biodom]

Hi !! I wanted to buy few AntMiners S2 in a few days but I see there's no AM S2 still available. Does anyone know will they be still available to buy? Or is bitmain planning to sell only those silly S2 kits with HUMONGOUS price? I will be very grateful for answer.

And btw, in my oppinion they made a huge mistake with giving 2260$ price for those kits. There's no PSU which costs a lot + case etc. Not smart move.

Gosh, I like a bargain like anybody else, but if bitcoin will keep rising as this, mining equipment will be expensive when calculated in $$, as S2 is.
The same 2260 price is 3.40BTC right now, but it was 4.05 BTC ($2309) on May 26 and ~3.2 BTC for group buy.

When bitcoin was low and mining equipment cheap, some were not buying. Now, as the price of BTC went up from $340 to $665, people are complaining about the expensive equipment. You buy cheap and you sell high-that's the general idea in anything investment related.

[philipma1957]

Hi !! I wanted to buy few AntMiners S2 in a few days but I see there's no AM S2 still available. Does anyone know will they be still available to buy? Or is bitmain planning to sell only those silly S2 kits with HUMONGOUS price? I will be very grateful for answer.

And btw, in my oppinion they made a huge mistake with giving 2260$ price for those kits. There's no PSU which costs a lot + case etc. Not smart move.

Gosh, I like a bargain like anybody else, but if bitcoin will keep rising as this, mining equipment will be expensive when calculated in $$, as S2 is.
The same 2260 price is 3.40BTC right now, but it was 4.05 BTC ($2309) on May 26 and ~3.2 BTC for group buy.

When bitcoin was low and mining equipment cheap, some were not buying. Now, as the price of BTC went up from $340 to $665, people are complaining about the expensive equipment. You buy cheap and you sell high-that's the general idea in anything investment related.

This happen in nov-2013   asic miner usb sticks were as low as 7 dollars they jumped to 50 dollars. 

I have a lot of gear I have been holding and I can now sell at a better price then I could a month ago. 

[MrFeiLong]

Hi !! I wanted to buy few AntMiners S2 in a few days but I see there's no AM S2 still available. Does anyone know will they be still available to buy? Or is bitmain planning to sell only those silly S2 kits with HUMONGOUS price? I will be very grateful for answer.

And btw, in my oppinion they made a huge mistake with giving 2260$ price for those kits. There's no PSU which costs a lot + case etc. Not smart move.

Gosh, I like a bargain like anybody else, but if bitcoin will keep rising as this, mining equipment will be expensive when calculated in $$, as S2 is.
The same 2260 price is 3.40BTC right now, but it was 4.05 BTC ($2309) on May 26 and ~3.2 BTC for group buy.

When bitcoin was low and mining equipment cheap, some were not buying. Now, as the price of BTC went up from $340 to $665, people are complaining about the expensive equipment. You buy cheap and you sell high-that's the general idea in anything investment related.

I'm talking only about ridiculous price of S2 kit. Because I don't want to spend extra money for PSU, case and other parts. With those parts, price will rise to at least 2600 $. Price of AntMiner S2 was good. And I'm asking about S2 miner availability, that's all.