⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[snipie]

So, I think the people themselves will avoid coming to the stadium for their personal health.

You underestimate human craziness! If a stadium can fit 50k people then I am pretty sure 5-10k one will attend the event whatever the situation is since they are allowed to... Political rallies, some football celebration events around the world took place as there was nothing... Madness!
For the max 10k number I find it good and relatively easy to handle, it means everyone having 2? empty seats in his left and right for a 50k stadium, I think it isn't that bad.

[Smartvirus]

So, I think the people themselves will avoid coming to the stadium for their personal health.

You underestimate human craziness! If a stadium can fit 50k people then I am pretty sure 5-10k one will attend the event whatever the situation is since they are allowed to... Political rallies, some football celebration events around the world took place as there was nothing... Madness!
For the max 10k number I find it good and relatively easy to handle, it means everyone having 2? empty seats in his left and right for a 50k stadium, I think it isn't that bad.

Of only it could have been that easy with human behavior as per complying to rules and regulations. Of course, every one in that stadium will be filled with the notion that they've been tested and are confirmed negative, so also would want to relate the same negativity of status to thir closest neighbors.
Hence, fans will see the need to feel free and maybe take off their mask to celebrate for goals, best and worst player and I believe you know the craziness of fans not to be limited to shouting an possibly jumping unto the pitch.
So, I still doubt the matter of allowing for fans participation as much as I would have wished it possible by your calculation, I mean, it's logical enough and seem very doable. But then, the question of how the tickets would be sold, time for testing before the start of games as I believe should be a criteria and compliance from fans as the safety rest clearly in our hands being the fans.

[snipie]

But then, the question of how the tickets would be sold, time for testing before the start of games as I believe should be a criteria and compliance from fans as the safety rest clearly in our hands being the fans.

I assume they will create an website/platform to help selecting people, maybe a spectator is allowed to attend 1 game per 3-5 games to allow everyone to attend at least a couple of their team matches. Tickets may rise by 50-100%. I don't know if it is stated somewhere but I find it abusive to test 10k spectators! Just a thermal scan with the shitty infra red thermometer should be enough, unless they have a high reserve of unused covid tests then yeah whatever just ask them to test themselves 24-48 hours before the match...

[babo]

Unfortunately now again everything is moving towards the spring quarantine situation! It is possible that the Champions League will be stopped for safety reasons!

for this reason it is wise to avoid wanting 10k people at the stadium
in the end there is TV, there are other means to be able to attend the games
if we avoid these stupid behaviors, maybe they don't close anything

of course is my opinion

[giammangiato]

I totally agree with you, in the end it is not necessary to go to the stadium in this situation
it would be worse if the championship or the cup were suspended

I think if we don't act now to give ourselves a limit, there will be another lockdown

[LTU_btc]

we can watch from tv this year.. and next year we return to stadium... dont be greed.. 0 is less than few

And what will happen next year? It's not worth to expect that virus will disappear then. Vaccine? Question is open when we will have it and how effective it will be. And now we have to learn how to live with virus around us. And I think that stadiums in current reality is far from being most dangerous places for people.

Unfortunately now again everything is moving towards the spring quarantine situation! It is possible that the Champions League will be stopped for safety reasons!

I don't think it's going to happen. UEFA and national leagues will do everything what's possible to continue season because losses during first lockown were too big for them. It's more likely that we will have many cases when games are postponed, teams forced to send their reserve team to the game or get 3:0 loss awarded. Like we saw few days ago in Juve - Napoli game.

[masulum]

is very stupid idea

Yes I know it, that why I'm asking about how organization and clubs can controlled the fans outside stadium. And please read my comment, I'm not supported this open gate, and I believe the fans will not take their risk to visit the match

[babo]

we can watch from tv this year.. and next year we return to stadium... dont be greed.. 0 is less than few

And what will happen next year? It's not worth to expect that virus will disappear then. Vaccine? Question is open when we will have it and how effective it will be. And now we have to learn how to live with virus around us. And I think that stadiums in current reality is far from being most dangerous places for people.

but why do you think people want stadiums? for charity or because they are greedy?
I'm saying something else

if we allow the virus to spread, we will have more lockdowns and therefore there will be no games

better not to go to the stadium and watch the show on TV or better not to watch anything at all?

we use the brain, guys

[giammangiato]

obviously, for them it is an economic loss for this reason they push to have people in the stadium.
in fact, given the situation and the risks, they could settle for this year and not be the usual greedy cowards

after vaccine, all can return to normal

[swogerino]

obviously, for them it is an economic loss for this reason they push to have people in the stadium.
in fact, given the situation and the risks, they could settle for this year and not be the usual greedy cowards

after vaccine, all can return to normal

This reminds me of the situation with casinos in Las Vegas which opened although we were in the middle of the pandemic and the major of Las Vegas said economic recovery is only possible through re opening of businesses.
I think UEFA is in the same situation,they need money and for money they need people in the stadiums.

[ShowOff]

This reminds me of the situation with casinos in Las Vegas which opened although we were in the middle of the pandemic and the major of Las Vegas said economic recovery is only possible through re opening of businesses.
I think UEFA is in the same situation,they need money and for money they need people in the stadiums.

And that could be possible if the incidence of infection had decreased dramatically. It will take the next few months to monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and if the situation improves then I will support them to allow spectators to be in the stadium. I believe the pandemic situation will get better and better and it will bring us back to freedom without having to fear infection.

[leea-1334]

I totally agree with you, in the end it is not necessary to go to the stadium in this situation
it would be worse if the championship or the cup were suspended

I think if we don't act now to give ourselves a limit, there will be another lockdown

I think governments have to unite and do 1 of either. Everyone take serious action now to limit and kill it off,,, or everyone takes the same actions to say, okay let us just let Covid run the course.

Because the problem now is mixed actions then means nothing is resolved or everything is postponed. The way it looks now. Another lockdown for sure.

[tyz]

we can watch from tv this year.. and next year we return to stadium... dont be greed.. 0 is less than few

And what will happen next year? It's not worth to expect that virus will disappear then. Vaccine? Question is open when we will have it and how effective it will be. And now we have to learn how to live with virus around us. And I think that stadiums in current reality is far from being most dangerous places for people.

but why do you think people want stadiums? for charity or because they are greedy?
I'm saying something else

if we allow the virus to spread, we will have more lockdowns and therefore there will be no games

better not to go to the stadium and watch the show on TV or better not to watch anything at all?

we use the brain, guy

I agree with @LTU_btc. I think we will not see normal football games with full stadiums for several years. The virus will not disappear easily. And whether the drugs will work as hoped is also highly doubtful. And if there is a vaccine next year, there will be many people who will not get vaccinated. Especially if there are cases where the vaccination leads to health problems which there will always be because they always occur, especially with such a rapidly developed vaccine substance..

[giammangiato]

But can we go to the stadium now? this thing escapes me and I don't understand why you are arguing.
In Italy you can not participate, if I remember correctly, at the stadium.

[Trofo]

I agree with @LTU_btc. I think we will not see normal football games with full stadiums for several years. The virus will not disappear easily. And whether the drugs will work as hoped is also highly doubtful. And if there is a vaccine next year, there will be many people who will not get vaccinated. Especially if there are cases where the vaccination leads to health problems which there will always be because they always occur, especially with such a rapidly developed vaccine substance..

Virus is here to stay and we will gradually adapt or it will run it course until we get herd immunity. The world will never be same again and new generations will simply be used to it. Do you guys remember what airports and taking flights was before 9/11? Almost no checks and choke points, everything was going fast and I got checked maybe once from 10 flights I took. These days it sound unbelievable.

For sports to work in covid infested world we will have to adapt and lower the amounts of supporters which are able to attend the games. Which is if you ask me still way better than no supporters at all and should not pose a great health risk, provided that supporters behave as they should. Maybe soon we will be talking do you remember the times when stadiums were full and we were all celebrating the goals together

[LTU_btc]

but why do you think people want stadiums? for charity or because they are greedy?
I'm saying something else

if we allow the virus to spread, we will have more lockdowns and therefore there will be no games

better not to go to the stadium and watch the show on TV or better not to watch anything at all?

we use the brain, guys

Well, offcourse money is important factor, clubs want to make at least some money from sold tickets. But also people want to visit stadiums, they were missing this thing since March. Offcourse that many afraid to attend games, but nobody is forcing them to go there. In many countries people are allowed to visit restaurants, gyms, cinema or museums with masks and social distancing, I don't know how stadiums are different from these places.

In Italy you can not participate, if I remember correctly, at the stadium.

People in Italy are allowed to enter, but very limited number, just 1000.

Maybe soon we will be talking do you remember the times when stadiums were full and we were all celebrating the goals together

I'm sure that things will back to normal sooner or later. Maybe it will took few years, but we will see full stadiums. It's first global pandemic in history. It simply can't last forever.

[Raflesia]

obviously, for them it is an economic loss for this reason they push to have people in the stadium.
in fact, given the situation and the risks, they could settle for this year and not be the usual greedy cowards

after vaccine, all can return to normal

This reminds me of the situation with casinos in Las Vegas which opened although we were in the middle of the pandemic and the major of Las Vegas said economic recovery is only possible through re opening of businesses.
I think UEFA is in the same situation,they need money and for money they need people in the stadiums.

So in any situation UEFA must be able to increase these finances if spectators are allowed to enter the stadium with a limited number then that is also good, regarding this situation, it remains very tight guard.

But in this pandemic all business must start over slowly because it will measure what is happening now, including football which is much in demand, ah if the EUFA allows the audience to enter it will be more interested.

[MCobian]

obviously, for them it is an economic loss for this reason they push to have people in the stadium.
in fact, given the situation and the risks, they could settle for this year and not be the usual greedy cowards

after vaccine, all can return to normal

This reminds me of the situation with casinos in Las Vegas which opened although we were in the middle of the pandemic and the major of Las Vegas said economic recovery is only possible through re opening of businesses.
I think UEFA is in the same situation,they need money and for money they need people in the stadiums.

So in any situation UEFA must be able to increase these finances if spectators are allowed to enter the stadium with a limited number then that is also good, regarding this situation, it remains very tight guard.

But in this pandemic all business must start over slowly because it will measure what is happening now, including football which is much in demand, ah if the EUFA allows the audience to enter it will be more interested.

I agree that UEFA should consider starting to allow spectators to watch live at stadiums. Because there is no certainty when the corona
virus will end, while money income from viewers is needed. So agree if UEFA allow spectators to watch live at the stadium, but of course
the number must be limited. Because it must not violate health protocols, In my opinion, 50% of the maximum available seating capacity
is the limit on the audience that can attend. Because this way can help the economy recover.

[Swordsoffreedom]

obviously, for them it is an economic loss for this reason they push to have people in the stadium.
in fact, given the situation and the risks, they could settle for this year and not be the usual greedy cowards
after vaccine, all can return to normal

This reminds me of the situation with casinos in Las Vegas which opened although we were in the middle of the pandemic and the major of Las Vegas said economic recovery is only possible through re opening of businesses.
I think UEFA is in the same situation,they need money and for money they need people in the stadiums.

So in any situation UEFA must be able to increase these finances if spectators are allowed to enter the stadium with a limited number then that is also good, regarding this situation, it remains very tight guard.
But in this pandemic all business must start over slowly because it will measure what is happening now, including football which is much in demand, ah if the EUFA allows the audience to enter it will be more interested.

I agree that UEFA should consider starting to allow spectators to watch live at stadiums. Because there is no certainty when the corona
virus will end, while money income from viewers is needed. So agree if UEFA allow spectators to watch live at the stadium, but of course
the number must be limited. Because it must not violate health protocols, In my opinion, 50% of the maximum available seating capacity
is the limit on the audience that can attend. Because this way can help the economy recover.

I agree with you. But I think up to 70% of the viewers they can allow. But everyone must wear a mask. Under no circumstances can it be kept open. And maintain as much physical distance as possible. I think it is the perfect time to reopen all the stadium for the spectators. The incidence of coronavirus has decreased and the vaccine will be available soon

[babo]

Well, offcourse money is important factor, clubs want to make at least some money from sold tickets. But also people want to visit stadiums, they were missing this thing since March. Offcourse that many afraid to attend games, but nobody is forcing them to go there. In many countries people are allowed to visit restaurants, gyms, cinema or museums with masks and social distancing, I don't know how stadiums are different from these places.

Money is the only one factor. Because for sport club is the only engine for move their greed.
I'm not agree with you, because in one restaurant? 200 guys?
in stadium 10000... is a little different scale factor..

but no problem for me.. go and spread the covid and after we going in lockdown -> mean no games