⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Rengga Jati]

At least there should be CL and UEFA league games without the crowd.

The problem is many players got infected by the Covid. It harms the clubs who lose a lot of players, especially losing their key players because they must be quarantined. It is surely not as simple as we think, Covid transmission is just starting and looks to increase quickly. The best option is absolutely to stop CL, UEFA, and also local league competitions. Even with no crowd, cannot solve the problem because the real problem comes from many aspects.

[Woodie]

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If this continues and many players are infected by Covid, the matches should be postponed. It is too risky for all players if the matches continue during a huge Covid spread. I am not sure all clubs agree to allow their players to play if the situation gets worse. It is only about the time when the competition will be stopped temporarily if there is no positive progress on the virus spread. I guess there will be an announcement about the temporary suspension of all football competitions.

The only problem that might arise from postponing such competitions is counter measures which will not be liked by many such as mandatory vaccination which i see will be the next thing to follow. Of course many will see this as suppressing human rights but its the only way or we might see the game we love indefinitely suspended as Covid is not fully under our control.

[AndySt]

It is true that Atletico might not look as good at the moment or in this season in general as they did in the last few years. As a bayern supporter i was still very happy as i heard that the drawing of the knock out stage had to be repeated as bayern had to face Atletico at that point  . I was hoping that Bayern could avoid Chelsea and Atletico...PSG would have also been a tough draw but i definitley would have picked Paris as Bayerns opponent over Atletico if i had to choose. Atletico under Diego Simeone is always extremely hard to play against, especially in knock out games because his players are extremely motivated and they don't hesitate to do nasty and illegal stuff too in order to win.

If you are a bayern supporter then you shouldn't worry about anything. At the moment in the tournament there are only 3 clubs from England that are on a level with Bayern, everyone else is weaker. PSG is weak because only 7 people play in defense, there are no questions about attack but football is not only a game of attack, balance is important but in PSG this is a problem. Atlético is not the same monster in defense as it used to be. Real Madrid's defense was it ever a problem for Lewandowski?

Let the Atletico defense is not so effective now, but Diego Simeone still has two months left to fix the situation with the defensive game for the better. It's one thing if the matches were held here and now, but it's quite another what the layouts will be closer to the matches themselves. A classic case in football tournaments is the fact that a team that is not a favorite approaches in the best conditions in the decisive matches and wins the tournament. In this case, we can recall about Chelsea in the last Champions League draw, when few people could initially assume that the team would reach the final. And Chelsea not only reached the final, but also took the title, winning against the favorite in the person of Manchester City.

[EdenHazard]

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If this continues and many players are infected by Covid, the matches should be postponed. It is too risky for all players if the matches continue during a huge Covid spread. I am not sure all clubs agree to allow their players to play if the situation gets worse. It is only about the time when the competition will be stopped temporarily if there is no positive progress on the virus spread. I guess there will be an announcement about the temporary suspension of all football competitions.

The only problem that might arise from postponing such competitions is counter measures which will not be liked by many such as mandatory vaccination which i see will be the next thing to follow. Of course many will see this as suppressing human rights but its the only way or we might see the game we love indefinitely suspended as Covid is not fully under our control.

A lot will be affected aside from how the people safety come first.

sports economic will be in another dip , and those who have a lot of debt would be mad now as they are on its way to recovering... but then feel like stoped.
barcelona for instance, they are in tough situation as debt getting increased but income got cut.
the covid shit are something that we wish to disappear next year but it seems things went wild for the second time.

[Alanaz]

At least there should be CL and UEFA league games without the crowd.

The problem is many players got infected by the Covid. It harms the clubs who lose a lot of players, especially losing their key players because they must be quarantined. It is surely not as simple as we think, Covid transmission is just starting and looks to increase quickly. The best option is absolutely to stop CL, UEFA, and also local league competitions. Even with no crowd, cannot solve the problem because the real problem comes from many aspects.

Transmission occurs on a large scale and is very difficult to anticipate because indeed this spread we do not know from where and who is infected when there is no further check.
On the other hand, it's a loss for sure because there will be a lot of impacts that will occur when their players are exposed to this epidemic.
the strongest example is now tttenham where many of them are in quarantine and made some matches postponed

[coderben]

I really hope that we can take control of Omicron variant also until the last 16 round starts. Because the virus has started to dominate various sports again and football is one of them now unfortunately. We already see in big leagues that many players started becoming ill due to covid-19 and many games have been postponed so far. If it goes on like this, it would probably affect the Champions League and the rest of the European tournaments really badly.

[KTChampions]

Even in the Spanish championship, Atletico concedes more than one goal in one game - this season their main feature (defense) is not yet as good as usual. In the Champions League, they conceded 5 goals in two matches with Liverpool, United are certainly far from Liverpool's effectiveness in attack at the moment, but we can see the "strength" of Atlético in defense from these results.

It is true that Atletico might not look as good at the moment or in this season in general as they did in the last few years. As a bayern supporter i was still very happy as i heard that the drawing of the knock out stage had to be repeated as bayern had to face Atletico at that point  . I was hoping that Bayern could avoid Chelsea and Atletico...PSG would have also been a tough draw but i definitley would have picked Paris as Bayerns opponent over Atletico if i had to choose. Atletico under Diego Simeone is always extremely hard to play against, especially in knock out games because his players are extremely motivated and they don't hesitate to do nasty and illegal stuff too in order to win.

I don't think Bayern would have experienced any problems with Atlético, but of course it is more profitable to play two easy games with Salzburg than two tight games with Atlético. By the way, Bayern Munich turned out to be very lucky - it got the weakest opponent in the draw, and the variant of such a pair was the least likely:

[Pmalek]

Inter Milan is the Serie A champion and now they are the league leader. They will the tough challenge for Liverpool somehow. But if you want to reach the trophy, you must to overcome all of challenge, even we have to against the hardest teams. Honestly, No one is strong or weak here, the strongest is the one stand till end of the campaign.

I beg to disagree. I don't think Inter has big chances to get a positive result against a Liverpool team if they play with full strength. I don't even see Inter drawing the first match on Giuseppe Meaza. I think Liverpool will win both encounters. Liverpool is levels above Inter and all Italian teams for that matter. We have seen how Italian teams played the group stages and what they were capable of delivering. Milan vs Liverpool for example. Juventus barely won their home game against Chelsea, but got destroyed in London with 4 conceded goals. Napoli and Atalanta didn't even reach the knockout stages despite their attractive style of football.   

[hahay]

I really hope that we can take control of Omicron variant also until the last 16 round starts. Because the virus has started to dominate various sports again and football is one of them now unfortunately. We already see in big leagues that many players started becoming ill due to covid-19 and many games have been postponed so far. If it goes on like this, it would probably affect the Champions League and the rest of the European tournaments really badly.

Christmas and New Year are just around the corner, I think it will be an opportunity for them to take a league break during that period of time. Indeed, players may be going on vacation but I think management can give a warning to maintain health to avoid being exposed to the virus, so as much as possible they try to rest and or quarantine completely so that this spread does not get bigger. It is very worrying indeed when many players have been affected, of course this case will make the league which will also run in the middle of the season again falter.

[Boristhecat]

Christmas and New Year are just around the corner, I think it will be an opportunity for them to take a league break during that period of time. Indeed, players may be going on vacation but I think management can give a warning to maintain health to avoid being exposed to the virus, so as much as possible they try to rest and or quarantine completely so that this spread does not get bigger. It is very worrying indeed when many players have been affected, of course this case will make the league which will also run in the middle of the season again falter.

I wonder how the issue will be resolved if there are local outbreaks of the virus in individual teams. It is impossible to postpone the entire tournament, but it is also impossible to force City or Liverpool to play with the second line-up, as this will violate the logic of the tournament and give a huge advantage to the opponents. I would like to be mistaken, but most likely many decisions await us that will be absurd and unfair but inevitable because of this whole situation.

[AakZaki]

After seeing the matchups, it is going to be really difficult for me to wait for some of them for two months.    I mean especially the PSG - Real Madrid matchup. PSG are going to be the advantageous team in the first leg of this matchup. As I want them to advance, I hope that they can get a nice score at the end of the match. Even if they win by one goal, I believe that they would be advancing by finishing the job in the second leg.

Home away system there will be those who feel lucky and not. But for the hosts of the first leg they have to win big to make them a little comfortable. But in the PSG vs Madrid game this time I don't think they will score many goals. If one wins maybe they will win by a margin of 1 goal. Both teams are great teams, but as a Madrid fan I chose Madrid to win and qualify at the next phase. Obviously there's a winter break and player transfers. At least it will be hard to guess who will qualify.

[bekti3]

Christmas and New Year are just around the corner, I think it will be an opportunity for them to take a league break during that period of time. Indeed, players may be going on vacation but I think management can give a warning to maintain health to avoid being exposed to the virus, so as much as possible they try to rest and or quarantine completely so that this spread does not get bigger. It is very worrying indeed when many players have been affected, of course this case will make the league which will also run in the middle of the season again falter.

I wonder how the issue will be resolved if there are local outbreaks of the virus in individual teams. It is impossible to postpone the entire tournament, but it is also impossible to force City or Liverpool to play with the second line-up, as this will violate the logic of the tournament and give a huge advantage to the opponents. I would like to be mistaken, but most likely many decisions await us that will be absurd and unfair but inevitable because of this whole situation.

Until now the solution is still floating and it is very difficult to decide because this is actually when viewed from both sides it will have the same impact.
If the match continues to be forced then prevention will be very difficult and every club will certainly not play optimally because there are indeed several players who are affected by the epidemic.
on the other hand, when they delay it will automatically make the schedule change and the time delay is uncertain until when.
everything has a detrimental impact and now it's just a matter of waiting what steps will be taken now

[Raflesia]

After seeing the matchups, it is going to be really difficult for me to wait for some of them for two months.    I mean especially the PSG - Real Madrid matchup. PSG are going to be the advantageous team in the first leg of this matchup. As I want them to advance, I hope that they can get a nice score at the end of the match. Even if they win by one goal, I believe that they would be advancing by finishing the job in the second leg.

Home away system there will be those who feel lucky and not. But for the hosts of the first leg they have to win big to make them a little comfortable. But in the PSG vs Madrid game this time I don't think they will score many goals. If one wins maybe they will win by a margin of 1 goal. Both teams are great teams, but as a Madrid fan I chose Madrid to win and qualify at the next phase. Obviously there's a winter break and player transfers. At least it will be hard to guess who will qualify.

The first leg must be won so that the second leg does not become a heavy burden for both parties, but what is certain is that this match will be fierce later.
Who will qualify, I can't predict it, for sure every fan wants to qualify for their favorite team, and it looks like both the domestic league and UCL are playing very well, you can say on fire, so later we will look forward to the real match.
And in the transfer window, they will definitely be competing to get the players they want.

[mv1986]

After seeing the matchups, it is going to be really difficult for me to wait for some of them for two months.    I mean especially the PSG - Real Madrid matchup. PSG are going to be the advantageous team in the first leg of this matchup. As I want them to advance, I hope that they can get a nice score at the end of the match. Even if they win by one goal, I believe that they would be advancing by finishing the job in the second leg.

Home away system there will be those who feel lucky and not. But for the hosts of the first leg they have to win big to make them a little comfortable. But in the PSG vs Madrid game this time I don't think they will score many goals. If one wins maybe they will win by a margin of 1 goal. Both teams are great teams, but as a Madrid fan I chose Madrid to win and qualify at the next phase. Obviously there's a winter break and player transfers. At least it will be hard to guess who will qualify.

The first leg must be won so that the second leg does not become a heavy burden for both parties, but what is certain is that this match will be fierce later.
Who will qualify, I can't predict it, for sure every fan wants to qualify for their favorite team, and it looks like both the domestic league and UCL are playing very well, you can say on fire, so later we will look forward to the real match.
And in the transfer window, they will definitely be competing to get the players they want.

Yes the PSG vs. Madrid game is one of the biggest games that could have happened in the whole final round regardless of the stage. Now it is so early that one team with ambitions to win the title has to say goodbye. That's kind of crazy. Madrid would be pissed as much as PSG would be. PSG maybe even more because there is nothing else they can do if they now fail. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, and many other stars were signed. If they now get kicked out in the first round of the final round, they are into a whole lot of trouble.

[savetheFORUM]

The first leg must be won so that the second leg does not become a heavy burden for both parties, but what is certain is that this match will be fierce later.
Who will qualify, I can't predict it, for sure every fan wants to qualify for their favorite team, and it looks like both the domestic league and UCL are playing very well, you can say on fire, so later we will look forward to the real match.
And in the transfer window, they will definitely be competing to get the players they want.

Yes the PSG vs. Madrid game is one of the biggest games that could have happened in the whole final round regardless of the stage. Now it is so early that one team with ambitions to win the title has to say goodbye. That's kind of crazy. Madrid would be pissed as much as PSG would be. PSG maybe even more because there is nothing else they can do if they now fail. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, and many other stars were signed. If they now get kicked out in the first round of the final round, they are into a whole lot of trouble.

PSG is looking for their first title in Europe's most prestigious competition and Real Madrid have love affair with this title, so it's going to be very exciting match after two months of winter break but many peoples still having heat of this because now Real Madrid is having no services of any star player, but they are performing very good and PSG having services of many stars like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, and they are sure about their win, but it's not easy for them to break these shackles because their performance is not good enough for winning this year's title hopefully they will do some better or having some better changes for next years with new ambitions because I am not having any good feeling about their win in this year.

[kassex]

After seeing the matchups, it is going to be really difficult for me to wait for some of them for two months.    I mean especially the PSG - Real Madrid matchup. PSG are going to be the advantageous team in the first leg of this matchup. As I want them to advance, I hope that they can get a nice score at the end of the match. Even if they win by one goal, I believe that they would be advancing by finishing the job in the second leg.

Home away system there will be those who feel lucky and not. But for the hosts of the first leg they have to win big to make them a little comfortable. But in the PSG vs Madrid game this time I don't think they will score many goals. If one wins maybe they will win by a margin of 1 goal. Both teams are great teams, but as a Madrid fan I chose Madrid to win and qualify at the next phase. Obviously there's a winter break and player transfers. At least it will be hard to guess who will qualify.

The first leg must be won so that the second leg does not become a heavy burden for both parties, but what is certain is that this match will be fierce later.
Who will qualify, I can't predict it, for sure every fan wants to qualify for their favorite team, and it looks like both the domestic league and UCL are playing very well, you can say on fire, so later we will look forward to the real match.
And in the transfer window, they will definitely be competing to get the players they want.

Yes the PSG vs. Madrid game is one of the biggest games that could have happened in the whole final round regardless of the stage. Now it is so early that one team with ambitions to win the title has to say goodbye. That's kind of crazy. Madrid would be pissed as much as PSG would be. PSG maybe even more because there is nothing else they can do if they now fail. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, and many other stars were signed. If they now get kicked out in the first round of the final round, they are into a whole lot of trouble.

If Real Madrid come up to the match against PSG in optimal shape, then PSG will have little chance of making it to the next round in the Champions League. PSG is not a balanced team. They have strong players in attack, but there are not three players in defense at once. Although the match is against Real Madrid will be fundamental for many. A pretty hot game awaits us.

[nurilham]

If Real Madrid come up to the match against PSG in optimal shape, then PSG will have little chance of making it to the next round in the Champions League. PSG is not a balanced team. They have strong players in attack, but there are not three players in defense at once.

I assume it is difficult to know which team to qualify to the next round. PSG has strong strikers, they potentially make Real Madrid only focus on defending. If it happens, PSG will be easy to create many goal attempts. While Real Madrid players are under pressure and hard to create the chances to score. If Real Madrid wants to win the match, they must win the ball possession and control the match. Benzema, Vinicius, or Asensio also must play effectively and show their accuracy in shooting.

[Rabi3]

If Real Madrid come up to the match against PSG in optimal shape, then PSG will have little chance of making it to the next round in the Champions League. PSG is not a balanced team. They have strong players in attack, but there are not three players in defense at once.

I assume it is difficult to know which team to qualify to the next round. PSG has strong strikers, they potentially make Real Madrid only focus on defending. If it happens, PSG will be easy to create many goal attempts. While Real Madrid players are under pressure and hard to create the chances to score. If Real Madrid wants to win the match, they must win the ball possession and control the match. Benzema, Vinicius, or Asensio also must play effectively and show their accuracy in shooting.

I might have to disagree with that, PSG play better in counter attacks and have difficulties when a team is all the way back in defense, and we have seen that multiple times in ligue 1, especially in the match against Lens, Psg were having a lot of difficulties getting through Lens's defense and we have seen Lens players several chances to score a second goal and end the match but they missed some easy ones, and with players such as Vinicius and Benzima we probably won't see the same thing, Real Madrid was and still one of the best teams in counter attacks.

[Ebede]

Can someone please explain how it's gon be like this champions league.
What I mean is that, since they no longer use away goals, how is it go be like this time around.
What is the new change, Thanks.

[kro55]

I might have to disagree with that, PSG play better in counter attacks and have difficulties when a team is all the way back in defense, and we have seen that multiple times in ligue 1, especially in the match against Lens, Psg were having a lot of difficulties getting through Lens's defense and we have seen Lens players several chances to score a second goal and end the match but they missed some easy ones, and with players such as Vinicius and Benzima we probably won't see the same thing, Real Madrid was and still one of the best teams in counter attacks.

Neither team will play defensively in the PSG vs Madrid match, both teams have strong defense and strong forward lineup. However, Real Madrid's game is more stable than PSG's. PSG's Neymar-Messi-Mbappe trio will have to play well if they want to win against Real Madrid. At the same time, Ramos has to handle the defense. PSG will not win if defenders do not perform well against Real Madrid.