⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[KingsDen]

Real Madrid defense isn't very bad, you are too much saying this. I can agree if you state they are not strong enough, but claiming they are very bad, totally not true.

It depends on what to compare, but in general I agree that Real's defense remained at the proper level even after the departure of Varan and Ramos. By the way, it is interesting that after the departure of Ronaldo, Benzema's talent and strength were revealed in full force.

That you for this crucial observation.  I keep telling people that Real Madrid defense is not as weak as they portray. Infact it is not weak. They only struggled sometimes when the season began, and I think they are fine now.
Even when it was Marcelo, Varane, Ramos and Cavaja which was indeed a strong defense, Real Madrid never relied much on their defense.
Their strength always has been the attack and how much goals they were able to get for the club.
Exactly the mentality of Liverpool.

[AndySt]

If we analyse the game based on players quality then this is a no brainer that PSG should have an easy win in this fight.However Ancelotti has a lot of experience in Champions League back at the times when he was managing Milan and he has also won a couple of Champions League trophies with Milan.This experience may really be a game changer if he manages to tactically to block PSG players,he is an Italian and they are well known for applying the best tactics to football.We still have to wait a couple of months before seeing this clash so there is time until then.

Surely this is one off biggest competition in Champions League knock out stage with two heavy weights are going to fight for place into quarter-final currently on papers PSG is very strong and having some better chances, but Real Madrid under Ancelotti is doing best job for last few weeks and having very good results, so it's not easy for them in presence of an Italian legend to win this match very easily. Another thing is also very important, Real Madrid is having love affair with Champions League and PSG is still looking for their first Date even they spend some very big amount in last few years for this one.

This is a double-edged blade and the presence of titles already won can not always serve as a significant advantage in the confrontation. The opponent may simply have a stronger desire to win the title than his already jaded opponent, although of course great teams, like athletes, are called great because they are not jaded with these victories and every new time they fight with redoubled efforts. Paris Saint-Germain by name may indeed have some advantage over Real Madrid, but the advantage of Madrid may be greater teamwork and greater integrity of the team. Therefore, it is difficult for me to give an advantage to any club offhand, but I think that the Qatari sheikhs can offer more prize money for their wards than Real Madrid can offer to its players

[Juggy777]

If we analyse the game based on players quality then this is a no brainer that PSG should have an easy win in this fight.However Ancelotti has a lot of experience in Champions League back at the times when he was managing Milan and he has also won a couple of Champions League trophies with Milan.This experience may really be a game changer if he manages to tactically to block PSG players,he is an Italian and they are well known for applying the best tactics to football.We still have to wait a couple of months before seeing this clash so there is time until then.

Surely this is one off biggest competition in Champions League knock out stage with two heavy weights are going to fight for place into quarter-final currently on papers PSG is very strong and having some better chances, but Real Madrid under Ancelotti is doing best job for last few weeks and having very good results, so it's not easy for them in presence of an Italian legend to win this match very easily. Another thing is also very important, Real Madrid is having love affair with Champions League and PSG is still looking for their first Date even they spend some very big amount in last few years for this one.

This is a double-edged blade and the presence of titles already won can not always serve as a significant advantage in the confrontation. The opponent may simply have a stronger desire to win the title than his already jaded opponent, although of course great teams, like athletes, are called great because they are not jaded with these victories and every new time they fight with redoubled efforts. Paris Saint-Germain by name may indeed have some advantage over Real Madrid, but the advantage of Madrid may be greater teamwork and greater integrity of the team. Therefore, it is difficult for me to give an advantage to any club offhand, but I think that the Qatari sheikhs can offer more prize money for their wards than Real Madrid can offer to its players

I too agree Carlo can definitely swing it in Real Madrid’s favour, but this is one of the biggest match for Poch and if he fails to win it then he’ll be sacked from the job. Furthermore I feel that Real Madrid play much better as a team in comparison to PSG who yet at times looks confused to me, hence in my personal opinion it’s advantage to Real Madrid.

[hahay]

Chelsea are a very lucky team that they have one of the easiest matchups among the favourite clubs to win the Champions League title. And it was really interesting to see that they got a draw against Lille two times.    It must be really frustrating for Lille. As Lille are not having a very satisfying season, Chelsea should be able to move them out of the CL by not having too much problem. I know that there has been a decrease in Chelsea's performance lately but they are still too powerful against their opponent.

If Chelsea's performance continues to decline and of course it will be a pressure on the team, at least the problem will have an impact on their performance as well. But if some key Chelsea players can get back into shape and keep them safe until the match against Lille, then of course Chelsea have a great chance of qualifying. I'm just worried that the pressure on the team can't be overcome, because after all even though Lille looks worse in the domestic league but the fact that throughout the group stage Lille can prove their capacity and Lille still can't be underestimated.

[joker_josue]

This season is one of those times when Real Madrid has everything to make a great Champions League. The La Liga championship is fully controlled, with no opponents at the height. In this way they can dedicate themselves almost 100% to the Champions League.

[Bilgent]

This season is one of those times when Real Madrid has everything to make a great Champions League. The La Liga championship is fully controlled, with no opponents at the height. In this way they can dedicate themselves almost 100% to the Champions League.

Actually, the La Liga is not fully controlled as there is a Sevilla threat very near them.    But still when we look at Real Madrid's recent performance in the league, we can say that they have a really big chance to win the title. And they have been really good at being able to focus on the La Liga and the Champions League both so far. Hence, Real Madrid are really having one of their best seasons and we will see if they will be able to benefit from it against PSG.

[Daniel91]

This season is one of those times when Real Madrid has everything to make a great Champions League. The La Liga championship is fully controlled, with no opponents at the height. In this way they can dedicate themselves almost 100% to the Champions League.

The Spanish championship is a very difficult and long competition and I don't think Real can relax too much and think that everything is under control.
After all, Sevilla are very close to Real and it seems that they will be the main competitors for the title.
As for the Champions League, I personally don’t think Real is the main favorite to win this competition.
I give Manchester City, Bayern, Liverpool and PSG more chances.

[Hidrofor]

This season is one of those times when Real Madrid has everything to make a great Champions League. The La Liga championship is fully controlled, with no opponents at the height. In this way they can dedicate themselves almost 100% to the Champions League.

Real Madrid really have one of their biggest chances to even win the Champions League. People shouldn't be so sure about PSG to eliminate them. To be honest, I'm also supporting PSG for this draw. But we should be ready for any kind of results here. Chelsea became the champions last season while most people were waiting for a team like PSG or Manchester City to make it. Maybe this time, Real Madrid can surprise people.

[joker_josue]

The Spanish championship is a very difficult and long competition and I don't think Real can relax too much and think that everything is under control.
After all, Sevilla are very close to Real and it seems that they will be the main competitors for the title.
As for the Champions League, I personally don’t think Real is the main favorite to win this competition.
I give Manchester City, Bayern, Liverpool and PSG more chances.

I don't say they will have an easy life. But they will have things minimally controlled. Even with Sevilla alert, they are 5 points ahead. Which gives them room for some slip. In other words, if things in the championship continue at the same pace, when the game with PSG arrives they will be able to go with all their strength.

I agree that Man City and Bayern are the ones with the best chances of winning the competition.

[Expecto]

Atletico Madrid - Manchester United can be a really interesting draw I think. I really wonder why Atletico Madrid are in such a bad condition this season after winning the La Liga title. There is a huge gap with the leader Real Madrid now. And they hardly managed to qualify for this round of the Champions League. As Manchester United are trying to recover by getting nice results, they seem to be the most advantageous team in this draw for now at least. I will be supporting Manchester United to qualify for the quarter finals.

[dataispower]

Manchester United have got Cristiano Ronaldo with them.
You should go check the stats between Athletico Madrid and Cristiano Ronaldo, Manchester United should be very happy at the moment.
They be getting good game's after the sack, and appointment of Ralf Ragnick,such they will go pass the Round of sixteen.
Talking about Chelsea against Lille,they should be experienced enough to play Thomas Tuchel,they must have a good understanding of how he's game plan.
Underrating the french side isn't proper.

[Jackl87]

This season is one of those times when Real Madrid has everything to make a great Champions League. The La Liga championship is fully controlled, with no opponents at the height. In this way they can dedicate themselves almost 100% to the Champions League.

I am actually surprised about how well Real Madrid is doing this season. They may not be among the absolute top favorite in the champions league but so far they are playing pretty well and have achieved good results. This is surprising to me because Real Madrid has almost as many debts as Barca has and still Real somehow managed to keep a working squad together while Barcelona is forced to play with a lot of extremely young players, that may have a lot of talent and a bright future but of course no experience at all in big games. I just don't see why Real Madrid could keep his squad together.. they have 900 M€ of debts and Barca 1,35 Billion € so of course Barca has more, but not that much more.

[Boristhecat]

If Chelsea's performance continues to decline and of course it will be a pressure on the team, at least the problem will have an impact on their performance as well. But if some key Chelsea players can get back into shape and keep them safe until the match against Lille, then of course Chelsea have a great chance of qualifying. I'm just worried that the pressure on the team can't be overcome, because after all even though Lille looks worse in the domestic league but the fact that throughout the group stage Lille can prove their capacity and Lille still can't be underestimated.

Even if Chelsea continues to slip, and Lille improves its game, then 99.99% you can be sure that Chelsea will still be the winner of this pair. Lille is very bad this season - 11th in the weakest of the top leagues. Making it to the playoffs from the Champions League group stage is easy to explain - they had the weakest group (possibly one of the weakest in history) and scored only 11 points. I think Chelsea will never get nervous about this confrontation and will easily succeed here.

[MAAManda]

Atletico Madrid - Manchester United can be a really interesting draw I think. I really wonder why Atletico Madrid are in such a bad condition this season after winning the La Liga title. There is a huge gap with the leader Real Madrid now. And they hardly managed to qualify for this round of the Champions League. As Manchester United are trying to recover by getting nice results, they seem to be the most advantageous team in this draw for now at least. I will be supporting Manchester United to qualify for the quarter finals.

Manchester United and Atletico Madrid are not far apart in their respective leagues, they are both outside the UEFA Champions League zone which indicates they are not doing well in the league. Maybe the match between them will be very boring, but I will still choose Atletico Madrid to win in the first leg because the match will be held at the Wanda Metropolitano.

[hahay]

If Chelsea's performance continues to decline and of course it will be a pressure on the team, at least the problem will have an impact on their performance as well. But if some key Chelsea players can get back into shape and keep them safe until the match against Lille, then of course Chelsea have a great chance of qualifying. I'm just worried that the pressure on the team can't be overcome, because after all even though Lille looks worse in the domestic league but the fact that throughout the group stage Lille can prove their capacity and Lille still can't be underestimated.

Even if Chelsea continues to slip, and Lille improves its game, then 99.99% you can be sure that Chelsea will still be the winner of this pair. Lille is very bad this season - 11th in the weakest of the top leagues. Making it to the playoffs from the Champions League group stage is easy to explain - they had the weakest group (possibly one of the weakest in history) and scored only 11 points. I think Chelsea will never get nervous about this confrontation and will easily succeed here.

Yes, basically on paper Chelsea will qualify, no matter the bad momentum that may occur in the Chelsea team later if something happens, basically Chelsea have a great chance to qualify. At least that's what I also believed before, Chelsea have a great coach but still, they won't always get the results they hoped for. I only consider Chelsea's situation as it is now at least in the last 5 games yesterday, the results were not so good and it looks very difficult for Chelsea to get out of that pressure. For this reason, I made a thought and became worried if a situation like this happened again when Chelsea played against Lille, at least it would make me doubt it only if bad conditions like now happen again.

[KTChampions]

PSG is strong in names. But are names on the pitch that strong? Remind me of the game this season, when exactly did the strikers do something at the extra level and PSG beat a strong team?

Basically, PSG is a strong team, they have many top players. So, they are possible to beat Real Madrid in theory. The problem is how the coach manages a strategy and motivates PSG players to play solidly. If Pochettino can do that, surely PSG strikers possibly make Real Madrid defenders in trouble. Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, or Icardi look fit to play in the next match, these strikers are enough to beat Real Madrid if they are playing in their best performance.

This is also true for Real, I do not see any differences. By the way, how do you explain the fact that such a stellar attack that PSG has scored 38 goals in 18 matches of a very weak French championship? While Real Madrid have scored 39 goals in the same number of matches in the much stronger La Liga.

[Turbolinea]

PSG is strong in names. But are names on the pitch that strong? Remind me of the game this season, when exactly did the strikers do something at the extra level and PSG beat a strong team?

Basically, PSG is a strong team, they have many top players. So, they are possible to beat Real Madrid in theory. The problem is how the coach manages a strategy and motivates PSG players to play solidly. If Pochettino can do that, surely PSG strikers possibly make Real Madrid defenders in trouble. Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, or Icardi look fit to play in the next match, these strikers are enough to beat Real Madrid if they are playing in their best performance.

Yes, PSG's squad quality is much better than Real Madrid's now. Because Real Madrid still couldn't make the transfers they wanted. But Real Madrid are still in a great form these days. They are dominating the La Liga now. And their CL performance also has been fascinating. They really want both titles this season. PSG is a big hindrance for them as long as PSG have their best performance against them. But they are still a capable team to eliminate PSG also.

[AakZaki]

Chelsea are a very lucky team that they have one of the easiest matchups among the favourite clubs to win the Champions League title. And it was really interesting to see that they got a draw against Lille two times.    It must be really frustrating for Lille. As Lille are not having a very satisfying season, Chelsea should be able to move them out of the CL by not having too much problem. I know that there has been a decrease in Chelsea's performance lately but they are still too powerful against their opponent.

In the league they do look to have a declining performance. It seems like it happened because they have a lot of players who are injured and affected by Covid-19. Kante who became the first choice suffered an injury, and chelsea's game was like losing a midfielder tirelessly. The UCL knockout stages are still long enough, I think chelsea will go through the transfer market as well. They can add players to fix their weaknesses. Besides I think the next game at UCL is the best players in the best of circumstances.

[doomloop]

Basically, PSG is a strong team, they have many top players. So, they are possible to beat Real Madrid in theory. The problem is how the coach manages a strategy and motivates PSG players to play solidly. If Pochettino can do that, surely PSG strikers possibly make Real Madrid defenders in trouble. Messi, Mbappe, Di Maria, or Icardi look fit to play in the next match, these strikers are enough to beat Real Madrid if they are playing in their best performance.

Yes, PSG's squad quality is much better than Real Madrid's now. Because Real Madrid still couldn't make the transfers they wanted. But Real Madrid are still in a great form these days. They are dominating the La Liga now. And their CL performance also has been fascinating. They really want both titles this season. PSG is a big hindrance for them as long as PSG have their best performance against them. But they are still a capable team to eliminate PSG also.

Currently, both team are level in quality and performance because both have same rank in their respective leagues and in Champions League performance is also very good with we can't predict about winner in meantime this is going to be one of the toughest competition in knock out stage with most lethal attack of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar will be ready for facing Benzema and company under leadership of Italian legendary Ancelotti who can turn tables into his favor with standing on sidelines.

But, sadly we have to wait for nearly two months for this match which is not easy as during this time many theories and conspiracies will be happened but still it's one of the best match to watch.

[Minor Miner]

Chelsea are a very lucky team that they have one of the easiest matchups among the favourite clubs to win the Champions League title. And it was really interesting to see that they got a draw against Lille two times.    It must be really frustrating for Lille. As Lille are not having a very satisfying season, Chelsea should be able to move them out of the CL by not having too much problem. I know that there has been a decrease in Chelsea's performance lately but they are still too powerful against their opponent.

In the league they do look to have a declining performance. It seems like it happened because they have a lot of players who are injured and affected by Covid-19. Kante who became the first choice suffered an injury, and chelsea's game was like losing a midfielder tirelessly. The UCL knockout stages are still long enough, I think chelsea will go through the transfer market as well. They can add players to fix their weaknesses. Besides I think the next game at UCL is the best players in the best of circumstances.

If we compare PSG, Manchester United or Manchester City, Chelsea has the least number of star players. Moreover, the pace of Chelsea's game has slowed down a bit now. In January, Chelsea's management should appoint some experienced players to the team. Their defense is strong enough, but forward lineup needs some improvement.