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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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February 03, 2022, 06:30:35 PM
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Spending a lot of money to collect many star players in order to win CL is not wise enough. It shows that PSG want instant achievement but they forget to build a great team that can survive for long time. They have started it since several years back but still unable to win the CL title. It proves that money and collection of star players cant bring instant achievement.
This is very solid point but sadly PSG management is not trying to understand this all as they are spending money for star players and having Champions League in their pocket is just waste of money for last few years they need to do some better strategy and bring few youths those can help them in this way better. It's game of patience and calm, but PSG owner is completely having nothing in his mind and wasting his oil money here without any passion and planning.

If they spend money and create a team for next few years then surely they can stay at top like Bayern or Real Madrid, but they are just spending big amounts and bringing used methods which are not giving them good results and even in this year most chances they will fall again and have nothing good in Champions League.

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February 03, 2022, 06:44:19 PM
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I can’t say that PSG showed a very bad game, everyone played as usual Messi so-so, Mbappe was also without a spark, and Neymar was absent altogether due to the fact that he continues to recover from injury.

PSG is not considered as a weak team. But their performance is totally unpredictable. They have many talented players. But as a team, they are not as strong as we expect. They have the ability to beat any team. Because of in their forward lineup, they have Messi-Neymar-Mbappe, they can destroy any defense. In their defense, there is Ramos. And their goalkeeper Donnarumma is talented enough.

Unfortunately, I saw the news that Benzema's participation in the first match is in doubt, this is a serious plus for PSG. At least if Benzema is absent, it will give them some peace of mind in defense.

If Benzema will not play, then I said that team Real Madrid is in a big trouble. Because Benzema is their main scorer. Yeah, Vinicius play well now. But, the team is still now heavily dependent on Benzema. And Obviously, it is a great opportunity for PSG to win this match.

Most likely, both Benzema and Neymar will be absent, so in this sense we have complete equality. I consider Neymar either the first number at PSG or the second (after Mbappe).
As far as PSG's strength or weakness, that's a tricky question - despite their dominance of Ligue 1 (in terms of results) a lot of their games were unsure where they got results in the final minutes.

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February 03, 2022, 07:24:08 PM
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In my opinion, because the competition in Europe is much more competitive than the domestic competition of the French League, in European competition there are stronger teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, City etc. Players from these clubs are also more competitive so it will be difficult for PSG players to face them, this is hard to find in French competition. and the problem is, the competition in France is relatively not too competitive for PSG, so it seems they don't have a winning mentality when competing in Europe.
And another reason having many star players does not guarantee victory, what is needed is cohesiveness and solid cooperation between players.
and having many star players in one club, more ego from players and coaches plays a big role in such situations and also having many star players will depend on the coach.

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February 03, 2022, 07:37:38 PM
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I can’t say that PSG showed a very bad game, everyone played as usual Messi so-so, Mbappe was also without a spark, and Neymar was absent altogether due to the fact that he continues to recover from injury. Unfortunately, I saw the news that Benzema's participation in the first match is in doubt, this is a serious plus for PSG. At least if Benzema is absent, it will give them some peace of mind in defense.
Even if Benzema was absent then Real Madrid would still have good players to replace him, but it is true that normally it will never be the same. Without Benzema I don't think Real Madrid will have a big problem with how they score but this is an important point for PSG and they have to take advantage of it.

I hope that the trio of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi can have a good impact on the match because if PSG can win by more than 2 goals in the first leg then I believe they will be safer in the second leg. PSG is not too bad compared to Real Madrid, both teams have both had good performance in their respective league as the leader of the table so this match will be the most interesting among football fans.

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February 03, 2022, 07:42:12 PM
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I think that this season is a big chance for not only PSG and Manchester City but also for Real Madrid. Because they also are very fascinating now. Their performance in the La Liga and the Champions League both is great. And they would surely aim to maintain this till the end of the season. Because of this, I see the PSG - Real Madrid draw like an early finale in this tournament. It would have been better to see these teams both making it to the semi finals at least. Anyway, I hope that the better playing side would be the eliminator.

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February 03, 2022, 07:43:07 PM
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And for me mbappe made the right choice, every player will love to play for Real Madrid and I think he possesses what it takes to succeed over they, and to think that he didn’t even consider if Messi was in the same team as him he chose his path and that’s how it should be.
Yep. We must respect Mbappe's decision. As an individual, he must have a dream. Real Madrid is a club that always has a high target in each competition, including in UCL. And this club is an experienced team to win many prestigious trophies (titles), both in Spanish and in international competitions. It makes sense if each player wants to join Real Madrid. Anyway, he must be aware that he will be prioritized to be the key player in Real Madrid future. So, de doesn't want to miss this chance.


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February 03, 2022, 08:15:01 PM
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^They can't keep him as far as I am aware. He already agreed to sign a deal with Real Madrid at the sum of 50 million euros. That is the news at least, I am sure he didn't sign any papers yet but who does it before they leave? He will wait for his contract to officially end and then he will sign with Real for that much money.

This is not even about if they could keep him or not in that case, it is about him already gone by this summer, it is known. That is the news at least, maybe news are fake and he hasn't talked with them, since there is no official statement from the both sides then we couldn't possibly "know" it, this is probably just an insider information.

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February 03, 2022, 09:05:23 PM
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Mbappe only wants to serve with the existing contract with PSG while the offer of a new contract is a long decision if PSG can persuade Mbappe to stay then that is better, but if Mbappe is released on a free transfer then it is ridiculous that PSG has wasted so much money.
If in the UCL, PSG have to submit to Madrid then the possibility of this dream of being a champion will fade, even I have doubts about Madrid.
Actually Mbappe must be ready with his choice.
Mbappe could agree a new contract with PSG but he may prefer to focus on the Champions League for now. I don't follow a lot of news about his contract renewal with PSG but it's very important.

There is a possibility that Mbappe will move to another team if PSG fail to win the Champions League title sooner than we think. The round of 16 clash will largely determine Mbappe's future at PSG and it will influence his decision to stay or move at the end of the season. I'm not convinced by PSG's failure to extend his contract, he will have to agree to an offer even though it will eventually be sold.

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February 03, 2022, 09:14:40 PM
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Mbappe may want to be a legend at Real Madrid.  Real Madrid is one of the legendary teams of the football world.  It may be the dream of every football player to play for Real Madrid.  I consider this normal.  Mbappe, on the other hand, is aware of the opportunity and will most likely play for Real Madrid in the champions league next year.
We all know it's all set for Mbappé to be in Real Madrid in next season because its dream team for every soccer player and no one want to lose this opportunity so just because of this he is no signing new contract with current club PSG, and now we have rumours PSG manager is also having desire to leave club at the end of this season so most chances we are going to have some good changes in this club at the end of this season as right now with many stars they are fail to have their results which is not acceptable for owner, so now they are doing some wholesale changes for next season and trying this all in new way with most chances Real Madrid legendary Zidane is coming here.

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February 03, 2022, 10:28:28 PM
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Mbappe only wants to serve with the existing contract with PSG while the offer of a new contract is a long decision if PSG can persuade Mbappe to stay then that is better, but if Mbappe is released on a free transfer then it is ridiculous that PSG has wasted so much money.
If in the UCL, PSG have to submit to Madrid then the possibility of this dream of being a champion will fade, even I have doubts about Madrid.
Actually Mbappe must be ready with his choice.
Mbappe could agree a new contract with PSG but he may prefer to focus on the Champions League for now. I don't follow a lot of news about his contract renewal with PSG but it's very important.

There is a possibility that Mbappe will move to another team if PSG fail to win the Champions League title sooner than we think. The round of 16 clash will largely determine Mbappe's future at PSG and it will influence his decision to stay or move at the end of the season. I'm not convinced by PSG's failure to extend his contract, he will have to agree to an offer even though it will eventually be sold.
PSG are very optimistic that Mbappe will sign a new contract with them but if in anyone he didn't then I will think the board and management of Paris Saint Germain are very stupid and have no value for money and are not good business men,and are full of pride, but I think the reason Mbappe wants to leave is because he is tired of the competition of the French league,he has been there all his life he wants to taste something different and he also wants to follow the path of benzema

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After all, Atletico are still under Diego Simeone who is a dangerous coach too I think, although so far this season couldn't make a good consistency but still. Atletico is a team that has been under the supervision of its coach for a long time, unlike Manchester United which continues to change coaches and also the ongoing issues in the team make Manchester United's focus seem to be decreasing a bit. In that case, I think Atletico are still in a better condition and situation which of course Atletico will take advantage of this moment to get rid of Manchester United.
In this match, it is generally difficult to give preference to any club. And Manchester United and especially Atletico Madrid do not justify the hopes that experts and ordinary fans had placed on the clubs before the season. For me personally, both clubs are about equal in strength at this point in time and it is difficult for me to give any advantage to any club, but still, given Diego Simeone's rich and quite successful experience of matches in the Champions League playoffs compared to Ralph Rangnik, I will still give some advantage to Simeone's team. However, much more food for thought and calculations will appear after the first match between these rivals.
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February 04, 2022, 12:17:24 AM
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Psg is the stronger team in this matchup in my opinion. Real Madrid is a very strong team, but if Psg can achieve an advantageous score in the first match, they are a strong team to maintain this advantage in the second match. If Real Madrid leaves with a good score, Psg can play well away. Their staff is really good. Especially on the offensive line, Neymar-Mbappe-Messi is a great trio.
But on the other hand, their current strength is balanced, I think. Their goal ratio is quite balanced in their respective leagues and it shows their strength and productivity is unquestionable.
On the other hand, we also see now the strength of the Madrid Trio, namely Benzema, Vinicius and Asensio, who are indeed quite good. On the other hand, it doesn't mean PSG's strikers are bad but if we look at the current problem, they are still struggling in cohesiveness and some of them are still concerned with their own ego.

Ego always loses. Think of a team that a few players hurt the team with their ego. There would be a lot of unrest in such a team. I haven't seen too many egotistical players in psg. I understand that Mbappe just doesn't want to sign a contract. Ego doesn't count, he just wants to follow his dreams. Because money is not a problem for Psg. They are willing to pay whatever they want. Mbappe will leave because he wants to play for Real Madrid.

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February 04, 2022, 10:35:50 AM
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I can’t say that PSG showed a very bad game, everyone played as usual Messi so-so, Mbappe was also without a spark, and Neymar was absent altogether due to the fact that he continues to recover from injury. Unfortunately, I saw the news that Benzema's participation in the first match is in doubt, this is a serious plus for PSG. At least if Benzema is absent, it will give them some peace of mind in defense.
Even if Benzema was absent then Real Madrid would still have good players to replace him, but it is true that normally it will never be the same. Without Benzema I don't think Real Madrid will have a big problem with how they score but this is an important point for PSG and they have to take advantage of it.

I hope that the trio of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi can have a good impact on the match because if PSG can win by more than 2 goals in the first leg then I believe they will be safer in the second leg. PSG is not too bad compared to Real Madrid, both teams have both had good performance in their respective league as the leader of the table so this match will be the most interesting among football fans.

Judging by yesterday's match, the absence of Benzema can still have a strong impact on Real Madrid. Of course, the Copa del Rey and the Champions League are different competitions with different motivations, but Benzema is a super player (according to Ronaldo top 1 now) and his absence is very important. As for Neymar, he will miss the first leg - won't he? Messi is not dangerous. Mbappe is dangerous, but I hope Real Madrid's defense can handle him.

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February 04, 2022, 12:37:13 PM
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Judging by yesterday's match, the absence of Benzema can still have a strong impact on Real Madrid. Of course, the Copa del Rey and the Champions League are different competitions with different motivations, but Benzema is a super player (according to Ronaldo top 1 now) and his absence is very important. As for Neymar, he will miss the first leg - won't he? Messi is not dangerous. Mbappe is dangerous, but I hope Real Madrid's defense can handle him.
Yes Real Madrid must immediately solve this problem, the problem in their front line, if they do not want to suffer the same fate as the Copa del Rey. For Real Madrid's class this problem should not happen again. But that's the reality, they still depend on Karim Benzema in their attack line.
Real Madrid must find a player who can at least replace Benzema when he is not available.

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February 04, 2022, 12:57:48 PM
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Karim Benzema is expected to be out until mid February now. It must be really worrying for Real Madrid as he might not be able to play in the PSG game on February 15. This is going to be a really critical game for Real Madrid in this tournament to get a good advantage. But if they don't have Benzema, then they can have serious problems on scoring goals in this away game. And this can be an opportunity for PSG to take the advantage of. Because if they don't get a win here, then Real Madrid might be able to finish the job in Bernabeu and eliminate them.

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February 04, 2022, 01:10:22 PM
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Even if Benzema was absent then Real Madrid would still have good players to replace him, but it is true that normally it will never be the same. Without Benzema I don't think Real Madrid will have a big problem with how they score but this is an important point for PSG and they have to take advantage of it.
I hope that the trio of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi can have a good impact on the match because if PSG can win by more than 2 goals in the first leg then I believe they will be safer in the second leg. PSG is not too bad compared to Real Madrid, both teams have both had good performance in their respective league as the leader of the table so this match will be the most interesting among football fans.
Judging by yesterday's match, the absence of Benzema can still have a strong impact on Real Madrid. Of course, the Copa del Rey and the Champions League are different competitions with different motivations, but Benzema is a super player (according to Ronaldo top 1 now) and his absence is very important. As for Neymar, he will miss the first leg - won't he? Messi is not dangerous. Mbappe is dangerous, but I hope Real Madrid's defense can handle him.

Actually, I think that both Messi and Kylian Mbappé are dangerous but Messi is not at his best right now and probably Mbappé is also not hundred percent concentrated from his mental stage because of a lot of speculation and transfer talk are going on surrounding him.

But, I also think that Karim Benzema not being in the team will play a crucial role in this match. Even I also thought that this might not be a big problem but now in my opinion PSG can exploit this certain advantage that they have.

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February 04, 2022, 01:11:38 PM
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PSG are very optimistic that Mbappe will sign a new contract with them but if in anyone he didn't then I will think the board and management of Paris Saint Germain are very stupid and have no value for money and are not good business men,and are full of pride, but I think the reason Mbappe wants to leave is because he is tired of the competition of the French league,he has been there all his life he wants to taste something different and he also wants to follow the path of benzema
Mbappe is new rising star of soccer world, and he has right to complete his dreams as if he is like to join Real Madrid then surely money is nothing with this all and currently PSG is surely had no good charm in French League, and they are fail to have a good winning combination for Champions League which is also matter for him, so he is feeling to go for his desire club and enjoy his game with some good wins.

Now, we all watching he is refusing all calls from coach and owner about signing new contract mean he is going to leave and money can't stop him for doing this all most chances we will watch him in next season playing with Benzema in Real Madrid jersey and having some good matches against teams like Barcelona and Atlético Madrid.

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February 04, 2022, 01:26:44 PM
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Karim Benzema is expected to be out until mid February now. It must be really worrying for Real Madrid as he might not be able to play in the PSG game on February 15. This is going to be a really critical game for Real Madrid in this tournament to get a good advantage. But if they don't have Benzema, then they can have serious problems on scoring goals in this away game. And this can be an opportunity for PSG to take the advantage of. Because if they don't get a win here, then Real Madrid might be able to finish the job in Bernabeu and eliminate them.

If Karim Benzema can't play against PSG then this is bad news for Real Madrid fans. We saw in yesterday's match against Athletic Bilbao, without Benzema, Real Madrid's poor performance. They lost 1-0 to Athletic Bilbao. With such a performance, they will not be able to win against PSG. Real Madrid needed Benzema to win against PSG. Because so far Benzema is the most important player in Real Madrid.

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Karim Benzema is expected to be out until mid February now. It must be really worrying for Real Madrid as he might not be able to play in the PSG game on February 15. This is going to be a really critical game for Real Madrid in this tournament to get a good advantage. But if they don't have Benzema, then they can have serious problems on scoring goals in this away game. And this can be an opportunity for PSG to take the advantage of. Because if they don't get a win here, then Real Madrid might be able to finish the job in Bernabeu and eliminate them.

If Karim Benzema can't play against PSG then this is bad news for Real Madrid fans. We saw in yesterday's match against Athletic Bilbao, without Benzema, Real Madrid's poor performance. They lost 1-0 to Athletic Bilbao. With such a performance, they will not be able to win against PSG. Real Madrid needed Benzema to win against PSG. Because so far Benzema is the most important player in Real Madrid.
The absence of Karim Benzema has had an impact on the current attack of Real Madrid, which we know is that he is one of the players who are hungry for goals. Yesterday's match against Atletico Bilbao became one example when Benzema could not be used. Yes Real Madrid must accept defeat and must be eliminated from the race for the Copa del Rey title this season. Real Madrid must prepare a replacement for Benzema, if they do not want to experience a similar result in the Champions League.

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February 04, 2022, 01:39:12 PM
 #12880

Karim Benzema is expected to be out until mid February now. It must be really worrying for Real Madrid as he might not be able to play in the PSG game on February 15. This is going to be a really critical game for Real Madrid in this tournament to get a good advantage. But if they don't have Benzema, then they can have serious problems on scoring goals in this away game. And this can be an opportunity for PSG to take the advantage of. Because if they don't get a win here, then Real Madrid might be able to finish the job in Bernabeu and eliminate them.

If Karim Benzema can't play against PSG then this is bad news for Real Madrid fans. We saw in yesterday's match against Athletic Bilbao, without Benzema, Real Madrid's poor performance. They lost 1-0 to Athletic Bilbao. With such a performance, they will not be able to win against PSG. Real Madrid needed Benzema to win against PSG. Because so far Benzema is the most important player in Real Madrid.
Benzema has a big enough role at Real Madrid, although Madrid has several players who can replace his role on the front lines, Benzema, who is the team's top scorer, is at least able to become a leader and motivate other players to get up in the game.
Losing Benzema is a big loss for Madrid (No Benzema, No Party Grin), but it is reported that Benzema is currently recovering and the first leg of the Champions League which will start in about 2 weeks will certainly give him time to fully recover.

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