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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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February 03, 2022, 06:48:37 AM
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PSG cannot be underestimated and I don't think that Real Madrid will have an easy time playing against PSG.
The Cup of France isn't a top priority for PSG.Their top priorities are becoming champion of France and wining the UEFA Champions League.I don't think that the PSG owners really cared that much about the game against Nice.Real is really consistent this season,but that doesn't mean that they are capable for defeating every opponent.
This is a controversial statement, as in previous years, PSG have consistently achieved a good result in the French Cup. This season, their result is the worst in more than 10 years. Also - for what reasons should they "ignore" this cup? In the domestic championship they have no competitors and no problems, Champions League matches are now played with less frequency due to the play-off stage.  I think PSG wanted to win the French Cup this year too, but they couldn't.

After being eliminated from the Round of 16 in the France Cup, the PSG team proved that they are still weak as a team. There are no well-known star players in the Nice team. However, PSG's performance against this team was weak. PSG made only 10 shots in the entire match, of which only two were on target. Mbappe and Messi did not play well. PSG will undoubtedly lose if they perform so poorly against Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid is a good and experienced team.

PSG and Real Madrid are football teams on the same level. Both of them are strong because they have many great players in their squad. I think what will be decisive is the strategy of each coach and the consistency of the players in carrying out that strategy. But, It could be that the match between PSG and Real Madrid will be boring if both teams play carefully with the consideration that the slightest mistake can be fatal.

My favorite is still Real Madrid and I guess in the first leg the match will end in a draw.

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February 03, 2022, 07:02:17 AM
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The Atletico Madrid - Manchester United draw is another one that I'm curious about. If we compare the current forms of these teams, I see Manchester United as the better side now. Atletico Madrid have had bigger struggles than them in the recent times. And Manchester United have started playing better than their poor look before. They have a more promising lineup also that includes very capable players. Even Ronaldo would be enough to scare Atletico Madrid. Because they don't have a good history with him while he was at Real Madrid. Maybe Ronaldo will have a big role in his team to advance to the quarter finals here.
atm versus manchester united, it's hard to predict, in the league each atm is more dominant and plays better, while manchester united has not played optimally in their own league, plus the recent case of grenwood, who was accused of sexual harassment against his ex-lover, which also had a slight impact on their club, but if you look at Ronaldo's performance in the champions league, it is very likely that Manchester United will be able to step into the quarter-finals, and be able to beat ATM, because armed with Ronaldo's experience in the Champions League, there is no doubt about it, he played very well in the champions league, different when he played in the club, according to my prediction manchester united was able to beat atm in the round of 16 later..

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February 03, 2022, 09:05:52 AM
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The Atletico Madrid - Manchester United draw is another one that I'm curious about. If we compare the current forms of these teams, I see Manchester United as the better side now. Atletico Madrid have had bigger struggles than them in the recent times. And Manchester United have started playing better than their poor look before. They have a more promising lineup also that includes very capable players. Even Ronaldo would be enough to scare Atletico Madrid. Because they don't have a good history with him while he was at Real Madrid. Maybe Ronaldo will have a big role in his team to advance to the quarter finals here.
atm versus manchester united, it's hard to predict, in the league each atm is more dominant and plays better, while manchester united has not played optimally in their own league, plus the recent case of grenwood, who was accused of sexual harassment against his ex-lover, which also had a slight impact on their club, but if you look at Ronaldo's performance in the champions league, it is very likely that Manchester United will be able to step into the quarter-finals, and be able to beat ATM, because armed with Ronaldo's experience in the Champions League, there is no doubt about it, he played very well in the champions league, different when he played in the club, according to my prediction manchester united was able to beat atm in the round of 16 later..

I think that Atletico Madrid is about the same in terms of performance in their League just like Manchester United.

And I agree that it is really hard to predict. If we talk about the overall performance of both teams in this season, Atletico Madrid has performed well and are in a decent position, the top 4.

But Manchester United did not perform well at the start of the season but they are finding their form now but still, I think that they have not met the expectation that they were supposed to. But I still think that Manchester United might be able to beat Atletico Madrid.

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February 03, 2022, 09:36:17 AM
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PSG have offered a salary increase and a long contract for Mbappe, but he is not tempted by a luxurious offer from PSG because Mbappe desire to play with Real Madrid is very strong. after not reaching an agreement with Mbappe, PSG must make a decision soon, because his contract will soon expire in June 2022. It would be a huge loss for PSG if they lost Mbappe on a free transfer. So PSG decision to let Mbappe go to Real Madrid was right.
Mbappe can be part of a new era that Madrid is trying to build, especially since Hazard has not been able to make a good contribution to Real Madrid. But Mbappe can't be on Real Madrid's list to play in the Champions League this season, because Mbappe has previously played with PSG.
Obviously it would be a big loss for PSG if Mbappe became a free transfer player and if it did succeed to Real Madrid it would definitely be better for the Real Madrid club later because on the one hand Mbappe is a very good player and also has qualified skills in playing, but if for this season, it is clear that he must stay with PSG, now when his contract expires with PSG, that's where we have to see where he will land.

PSG management has tried their best to be able to extend Mbappe's contract, but it seems that Mbappe's decision cannot be changed.
Therefore it is likely that PSG will suffer a loss by losing Mbappe for free, even though if Mbappe was sold when Real Madrid made an offer
to buy Mbappe, PSG would not suffer a big loss. But I don't blame PSG for losing Mbappe for free, because PSG didn't sell Mbappe before,
because they believe they can provide the contract that Mbappe will accept. The fact that Mbappe moved to Real Madrid is not only because of
money, but there is something else that only Mbappe knows. Mbappe is a player with extraordinary abilities, I'm sure if Mbappe officially moves
to Real Madrid, will make a big contribution and is very suitable as a replacement for Benzema who is not young anymore. If this season Mbappe
can lead PSG to win the Champions League, it will be a beautiful farewell gift for PSG. But we know it is very difficult for PSG to win the Champions
League, because PSG's competitors are not an easy team to beat.

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February 03, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
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After being eliminated from the Round of 16 in the France Cup, the PSG team proved that they are still weak as a team. There are no well-known star players in the Nice team. However, PSG's performance against this team was weak. PSG made only 10 shots in the entire match, of which only two were on target. Mbappe and Messi did not play well. PSG will undoubtedly lose if they perform so poorly against Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid is a good and experienced team.
PSG and Real Madrid are football teams on the same level. Both of them are strong because they have many great players in their squad. I think what will be decisive is the strategy of each coach and the consistency of the players in carrying out that strategy. But, It could be that the match between PSG and Real Madrid will be boring if both teams play carefully with the consideration that the slightest mistake can be fatal.

My favorite is still Real Madrid and I guess in the first leg the match will end in a draw.

As both teams are on the even stage, I honestly hope that both the teams play for winning and go for goals in the match, it should be a high-scoring match.

I am a big fan of Messi but still, I think that PSG might play really safe in this match. Because after the decent loss against NICE I think PSG are actually on the back foot and it might affect their mentality. But I think that Real Madrid will be really determined to win this match. This match might end up in a draw none the less but I still expect goals in this match.

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February 03, 2022, 09:57:11 AM
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PSG have offered a salary increase and a long contract for Mbappe, but he is not tempted by a luxurious offer from PSG because Mbappe desire to play with Real Madrid is very strong. after not reaching an agreement with Mbappe, PSG must make a decision soon, because his contract will soon expire in June 2022. It would be a huge loss for PSG if they lost Mbappe on a free transfer. So PSG decision to let Mbappe go to Real Madrid was right.
Mbappe can be part of a new era that Madrid is trying to build, especially since Hazard has not been able to make a good contribution to Real Madrid. But Mbappe can't be on Real Madrid's list to play in the Champions League this season, because Mbappe has previously played with PSG.
Obviously it would be a big loss for PSG if Mbappe became a free transfer player and if it did succeed to Real Madrid it would definitely be better for the Real Madrid club later because on the one hand Mbappe is a very good player and also has qualified skills in playing, but if for this season, it is clear that he must stay with PSG, now when his contract expires with PSG, that's where we have to see where he will land.

PSG could have made a lot of money by selling Mbappe. But PSG does not seem interested in making money. They want to win the Champions League title. They will try their best to keep Mbappe in the team. My guess is that PSG management is still optimistic about Mbappe that maybe PSG will renew their contract with them and decide to stay at PSG.

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PSG could have made a lot of money by selling Mbappe. But PSG does not seem interested in making money. They want to win the Champions League title. They will try their best to keep Mbappe in the team. My guess is that PSG management is still optimistic about Mbappe that maybe PSG will renew their contract with them and decide to stay at PSG.

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February 03, 2022, 10:33:20 AM
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PSG could have made a lot of money by selling Mbappe. But PSG does not seem interested in making money. They want to win the Champions League title. They will try their best to keep Mbappe in the team. My guess is that PSG management is still optimistic about Mbappe that maybe PSG will renew their contract with them and decide to stay at PSG.

yes, but this game will last as long as there is money to waste
it can't last forever
if it's a rich person's game, he may get tired sooner or later
it is not healthy to throw money like this, it is not sustainable and as a PSG fan I would be afraid

The reality is that Mbappe does not want to extend his contract at PSG, while PSG's own board management has offered him a new contract. I've heard that on one of the existing news channels, but I don't know if it's legitimate news or not because of course PSG will regret it if Mbappe is released on a free transfer later. Anyway, even though Mbappe has remained at PSG throughout this UCL season, I personally am still not sure that PSG will go further, because their competitors this season can also be said to be better.

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Wait...  Is his move to Real Madrid confirmed?  A quick search says it’s all talks and hear say as of now and that some players find the wage deal kind of ridiculous.  I think it’s the football journos trying to get a better meal than quick cook ramen guys.  Lol. 

And you’re right.  It def doesn’t mean cups right off the bat.  Everybody should remember the last two high profile signings of Bale and Hazard.  It could be a curse for Mbappe.

I don't know because his time in PSG does not look really awesome at the moment. I know that we all said that Bale and Hazard are going to be the next Messi and Ronaldo but eventually Messi and Ronaldo are outlasting them.

But in this case, I don't think him moving to Real Madrid is going to be a bad decision. If anything I think that it is going to do you better for him in the long run.



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February 03, 2022, 12:05:58 PM
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yes, but this game will last as long as there is money to waste
it can't last forever
if it's a rich person's game, he may get tired sooner or later
it is not healthy to throw money like this, it is not sustainable and as a PSG fan I would be afraid
The reality is that Mbappe does not want to extend his contract at PSG, while PSG's own board management has offered him a new contract. I've heard that on one of the existing news channels, but I don't know if it's legitimate news or not because of course PSG will regret it if Mbappe is released on a free transfer later. Anyway, even though Mbappe has remained at PSG throughout this UCL season, I personally am still not sure that PSG will go further, because their competitors this season can also be said to be better.
Mbappe only wants to serve with the existing contract with PSG while the offer of a new contract is a long decision if PSG can persuade Mbappe to stay then that is better, but if Mbappe is released on a free transfer then it is ridiculous that PSG has wasted so much money.
If in the UCL, PSG have to submit to Madrid then the possibility of this dream of being a champion will fade, even I have doubts about Madrid.
Actually Mbappe must be ready with his choice.

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The reality is that Mbappe does not want to extend his contract at PSG, while PSG's own board management has offered him a new contract. I've heard that on one of the existing news channels, but I don't know if it's legitimate news or not because of course PSG will regret it if Mbappe is released on a free transfer later. Anyway, even though Mbappe has remained at PSG throughout this UCL season, I personally am still not sure that PSG will go further, because their competitors this season can also be said to be better.
The reality is Mbappe does not satisfy with his career in PSG. He see the club has opportunity to win Champions League because he has experience to know that the difference between champions and losers are small in some cases. With his experience in France national team, he should know it.

Moreover, he does want to win personal titles which he thinks he can not get such in PSG. It are probably one of biggest reasons and motivation why he does want to play in Real Madrid. The club has many super stars who win many Ballon d'Or and other personal titles. PSG is not a club at such level and has such tradition.

Mbappe only wants to serve with the existing contract with PSG while the offer of a new contract is a long decision if PSG can persuade Mbappe to stay then that is better, but if Mbappe is released on a free transfer then it is ridiculous that PSG has wasted so much money.
If in the UCL, PSG have to submit to Madrid then the possibility of this dream of being a champion will fade, even I have doubts about Madrid.
Actually Mbappe must be ready with his choice.
Beating Real Madrid or winning one Champions League can not change all history. Chance to win 3 Champions League like Real Madrid and Zizou is very small. It takes Chelsea many years from their first Champions League trophy to their second trophy. Chance to win a few Champions League in 5 or 10 years is low because it is scarce to see a club like Barcelona with Pep, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. years ago.

So I believe even if PSG win Champions League in the end of this season, Mbappe will still have more motivation to join Real Madrid rather than sign a new contract with PSG.

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So I believe even if PSG win Champions League in the end of this season, Mbappe will still have more motivation to join Real Madrid rather than sign a new contract with PSG.


I agree with you. Mbappe will leave from PSG to join Real Madrid. It's clear he wants to leave. I think the big problem for "PSG" that will be his leaving for free.

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This is a controversial statement, as in previous years, PSG have consistently achieved a good result in the French Cup. This season, their result is the worst in more than 10 years. Also - for what reasons should they "ignore" this cup? In the domestic championship they have no competitors and no problems, Champions League matches are now played with less frequency due to the play-off stage.  I think PSG wanted to win the French Cup this year too, but they couldn't.

After being eliminated from the Round of 16 in the France Cup, the PSG team proved that they are still weak as a team. There are no well-known star players in the Nice team. However, PSG's performance against this team was weak. PSG made only 10 shots in the entire match, of which only two were on target. Mbappe and Messi did not play well. PSG will undoubtedly lose if they perform so poorly against Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid is a good and experienced team.

I can’t say that PSG showed a very bad game, everyone played as usual Messi so-so, Mbappe was also without a spark, and Neymar was absent altogether due to the fact that he continues to recover from injury. Unfortunately, I saw the news that Benzema's participation in the first match is in doubt, this is a serious plus for PSG. At least if Benzema is absent, it will give them some peace of mind in defense.

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After the PSG - Real Madrid matchup, the most remarkable matchup to me is Atletico Madrid - Manchester United certainly. Because this is also a matchup between close teams in terms of strength. Atletico Madrid seem to be an unpredictable team these days and Manchester United are also not much different than them actually. However, I still see Manchester United being one step ahead of their opponent now. Because there have been good signals for them as I really liked their performance in their last a few matches. If this goes on like this, Manchester United will be my favourite to eliminate Atletico Madrid.

The matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is definitely a promising one in terms of excitement and intensity. Atletico is doing not so well in the spanish liga at the moment as they are only on the 4th place now but the same is also true for Manchester United even though i have to say that the teams that are in front of Manchester in the Premier League are way stronger than the ones that are ahead of Atletico in the La Liga. That being said, Atletico has proven several times now, that they can be very dangerous to any team, especially in play-off games. They managed to beat FC Bayern for example 2 times in a row even though Bayern was the better team, so Atletico definitely know what to do in order to advance into the next round.
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February 03, 2022, 03:49:14 PM
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I can’t say that PSG showed a very bad game, everyone played as usual Messi so-so, Mbappe was also without a spark, and Neymar was absent altogether due to the fact that he continues to recover from injury.

PSG is not considered as a weak team. But their performance is totally unpredictable. They have many talented players. But as a team, they are not as strong as we expect. They have the ability to beat any team. Because of in their forward lineup, they have Messi-Neymar-Mbappe, they can destroy any defense. In their defense, there is Ramos. And their goalkeeper Donnarumma is talented enough.


Unfortunately, I saw the news that Benzema's participation in the first match is in doubt, this is a serious plus for PSG. At least if Benzema is absent, it will give them some peace of mind in defense.

If Benzema will not play, then I said that team Real Madrid is in a big trouble. Because Benzema is their main scorer. Yeah, Vinicius play well now. But, the team is still now heavily dependent on Benzema. And Obviously, it is a great opportunity for PSG to win this match.

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February 03, 2022, 04:35:43 PM
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PSG could have made a lot of money by selling Mbappe. But PSG does not seem interested in making money. They want to win the Champions League title. They will try their best to keep Mbappe in the team. My guess is that PSG management is still optimistic about Mbappe that maybe PSG will renew their contract with them and decide to stay at PSG.
yes, but this game will last as long as there is money to waste
it can't last forever
if it's a rich person's game, he may get tired sooner or later
it is not healthy to throw money like this, it is not sustainable and as a PSG fan I would be afraid

PSG Management is hungry for the Champions League title. They want to do it themselves anyway. For this they are ready to spend more money. They will not even hesitate to hire a player with high wages like Ronaldo if Ronaldo wants to come to PSG. So right now PSG's waste of money is not stopping. They are desperate to win the title.

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February 03, 2022, 04:58:00 PM
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After the PSG - Real Madrid matchup, the most remarkable matchup to me is Atletico Madrid - Manchester United certainly. Because this is also a matchup between close teams in terms of strength. Atletico Madrid seem to be an unpredictable team these days and Manchester United are also not much different than them actually. However, I still see Manchester United being one step ahead of their opponent now. Because there have been good signals for them as I really liked their performance in their last a few matches. If this goes on like this, Manchester United will be my favourite to eliminate Atletico Madrid.

The matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is definitely a promising one in terms of excitement and intensity. Atletico is doing not so well in the spanish liga at the moment as they are only on the 4th place now but the same is also true for Manchester United even though i have to say that the teams that are in front of Manchester in the Premier League are way stronger than the ones that are ahead of Atletico in the La Liga. That being said, Atletico has proven several times now, that they can be very dangerous to any team, especially in play-off games. They managed to beat FC Bayern for example 2 times in a row even though Bayern was the better team, so Atletico definitely know what to do in order to advance into the next round.
After all, Atletico are still under Diego Simeone who is a dangerous coach too I think, although so far this season couldn't make a good consistency but still. Atletico is a team that has been under the supervision of its coach for a long time, unlike Manchester United which continues to change coaches and also the ongoing issues in the team make Manchester United's focus seem to be decreasing a bit. In that case, I think Atletico are still in a better condition and situation which of course Atletico will take advantage of this moment to get rid of Manchester United.

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February 03, 2022, 05:21:06 PM
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After the PSG - Real Madrid matchup, the most remarkable matchup to me is Atletico Madrid - Manchester United certainly. Because this is also a matchup between close teams in terms of strength. Atletico Madrid seem to be an unpredictable team these days and Manchester United are also not much different than them actually. However, I still see Manchester United being one step ahead of their opponent now. Because there have been good signals for them as I really liked their performance in their last a few matches. If this goes on like this, Manchester United will be my favourite to eliminate Atletico Madrid.
The matchup between Atletico Madrid and Manchester United is definitely a promising one in terms of excitement and intensity. Atletico is doing not so well in the spanish liga at the moment as they are only on the 4th place now but the same is also true for Manchester United even though i have to say that the teams that are in front of Manchester in the Premier League are way stronger than the ones that are ahead of Atletico in the La Liga. That being said, Atletico has proven several times now, that they can be very dangerous to any team, especially in play-off games. They managed to beat FC Bayern for example 2 times in a row even though Bayern was the better team, so Atletico definitely know what to do in order to advance into the next round.
After all, Atletico are still under Diego Simeone who is a dangerous coach too I think, although so far this season couldn't make a good consistency but still. Atletico is a team that has been under the supervision of its coach for a long time, unlike Manchester United which continues to change coaches and also the ongoing issues in the team make Manchester United's focus seem to be decreasing a bit. In that case, I think Atletico are still in a better condition and situation which of course Atletico will take advantage of this moment to get rid of Manchester United.

I think the Atlético Madrid and Man United match will be a thriller but I also do think that it might be a low-scoring game. Because you know how good Atlético Madrid are on the defense and Man United are a bit inconsistent on the offense.

But it will be a match full of stacked star players for both teams. I think I will opt for Atlético Madrid in this match as their defense can easily win them games and odd's are also supporting them.

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February 03, 2022, 05:42:26 PM
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PSG could have made a lot of money by selling Mbappe. But PSG does not seem interested in making money. They want to win the Champions League title. They will try their best to keep Mbappe in the team. My guess is that PSG management is still optimistic about Mbappe that maybe PSG will renew their contract with them and decide to stay at PSG.
yes, but this game will last as long as there is money to waste
it can't last forever
if it's a rich person's game, he may get tired sooner or later
it is not healthy to throw money like this, it is not sustainable and as a PSG fan I would be afraid

PSG Management is hungry for the Champions League title. They want to do it themselves anyway. For this they are ready to spend more money. They will not even hesitate to hire a player with high wages like Ronaldo if Ronaldo wants to come to PSG. So right now PSG's waste of money is not stopping. They are desperate to win the title.

Spending a lot of money to collect many star players in order to win CL is not wise enough. It shows that PSG want instant achievement but they forget to build a great team that can survive for long time. They have started it since several years back but still unable to win the CL title. It proves that money and collection of star players cant bring instant achievement.
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After being eliminated from the Round of 16 in the France Cup, the PSG team proved that they are still weak as a team. There are no well-known star players in the Nice team. However, PSG's performance against this team was weak. PSG made only 10 shots in the entire match, of which only two were on target. Mbappe and Messi did not play well. PSG will undoubtedly lose if they perform so poorly against Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid is a good and experienced team.

I can’t say that PSG showed a very bad game, everyone played as usual Messi so-so, Mbappe was also without a spark, and Neymar was absent altogether due to the fact that he continues to recover from injury. Unfortunately, I saw the news that Benzema's participation in the first match is in doubt, this is a serious plus for PSG. At least if Benzema is absent, it will give them some peace of mind in defense.

^ I have to say that the PSG team has very bright individual players in them but I think they somewhat fail to shine as a whole team.
Actually, football is a team game Sometimes individual talent doesn't work unless the team chemistry is good. Having players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe come to nothing if they don't get their chemistry right. I fear that they will lose against Real Madrid in the UCL as RMA are a very well-coordinated team, even though they recently lost Ronaldo, Ramos, and Varane.

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