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November 03, 2023, 06:45:23 PM
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Netherlands lost today's match because of their stupid batting. Top order batsmen do not get out by performing poorly. Four of the first 5 batsmen were run out. In such an important match, the Netherlands batsmen should have batted responsibly. But they played like fools. Had it not been for these four run outs, the Netherlands could easily have given away a target of 260+ today. And if Netherlands could have given a target of more than 260 on this pitch, they might have won the match. Giving a target of just 180 runs was impossible to win. Afghanistan batsmen batted very responsibly today. The team has won four out of seven matches and is now fifth in the points table.

Afghanistan played some outclass bowling along with their batting as they are playing at their full covers and they have many skills now, at first the Afghanistan Team was not considered as good as they play the game today. So, I think they will be the better team in the coming matches if they are good at their capabilities. Mostly the Afghanistan Batsmen have good batting skills and they are also good at bowling. The Netherlands won many matches previously which also included an upset but we have seen they were completely disappointed today and seems that they were locked by the Afghanistan Bowlers. Better to work on their batting and they have to focus on their bowling side as they have some better bowlers if they make their length a little better.

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November 03, 2023, 07:39:33 PM
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Pakistan are in a do or die situation against New Zealand, but a win would still not get them closer to the semifinals because their NRR sucks and they need to keep winning while New Zealand and Afghanistan should keep losing.

On the other hand, we have Australia who could get into trouble if they lose against England who can play freely with zero pressure since they are out.

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November 03, 2023, 07:44:55 PM
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Pakistan are in a do or die situation against New Zealand, but a win would still not get them closer to the semifinals because their NRR sucks and they need to keep winning while New Zealand and Afghanistan should keep losing.

On the other hand, we have Australia who could get into trouble if they lose against England who can play freely with zero pressure since they are out.

Tomorrow is the match of Pakistan vs New Zealand, and Pakistan has a great advantage because Kane Williamson is injured, and many other players of New Zealand are also injured but I don’t agree that they play tomorrow’s match or not. But I heard that New Zealand five players are injured in the squad so they aren’t available for tomorrow’s match then reserved players are coming to play tomorrow’s match.

I again say that I don’t know if it is real or fake as I just heard it on social media, If you have any idea about them please correct me,
but if this thing is real then in tomorrow's match clearly the advantage will be with Pakistan.
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November 03, 2023, 08:04:29 PM
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Afghanistan played some outclass bowling along with their batting as they are playing at their full covers and they have many skills now, at first the Afghanistan Team was not considered as good as they play the game today. So, I think they will be the better team in the coming matches if they are good at their capabilities. Mostly the Afghanistan Batsmen have good batting skills and they are also good at bowling.
Yeah, you are completely right that Afghanistan team is really performing well recently especially after they get a first victory against England here they get the momentum and huge confidence which later carry on by them against Pakistan and now against the Netherlands and due to such things they were able to get victory against them. No doubt they were known one of strong and dangerous side in T20 format because of their aggressive batting style, but now to make our self adjust in ODI format and such things really help them. Their middle order like Rahmat and Shahidi really performing well because when top order unable to make runs they are the once who really make runs with consistency from recent matches in critical situation.

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November 03, 2023, 08:05:56 PM
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Netherlands lost today's match because of their stupid batting. Top order batsmen do not get out by performing poorly. Four of the first 5 batsmen were run out. In such an important match, the Netherlands batsmen should have batted responsibly. But they played like fools. Had it not been for these four run outs, the Netherlands could easily have given away a target of 260+ today. And if Netherlands could have given a target of more than 260 on this pitch, they might have won the match. Giving a target of just 180 runs was impossible to win. Afghanistan batsmen batted very responsibly today. The team has won four out of seven matches and is now fifth in the points table.

Afghanistan played some outclass bowling along with their batting as they are playing at their full covers and they have many skills now, at first the Afghanistan Team was not considered as good as they play the game today. So, I think they will be the better team in the coming matches if they are good at their capabilities. Mostly the Afghanistan Batsmen have good batting skills and they are also good at bowling. The Netherlands won many matches previously which also included an upset but we have seen they were completely disappointed today and seems that they were locked by the Afghanistan Bowlers. Better to work on their batting and they have to focus on their bowling side as they have some better bowlers if they make their length a little better.
Afghanistan scored nine runs in an over and did not concede a wicket. Afghanistan scored 16 runs in three overs in style and did not allow their opponents to get a single wicket. The visitors out Afghanistan's first batsman in the third ball of the sixth over. Netherlands took the wicket of Afghanistan's second batsman in abudant style. And so Afghanistan scored 116 runs in 20 overs.
 This match was very important for Afghanistan which they won very easily.Afghanistan completed the target of Netherlands in 31 overs and gave them a big defeat.

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November 04, 2023, 01:58:13 AM
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There are two matches today, one is between the Pakistan and Afghanistan and the 2nd one is between England and Australia, both the matches are between the top teams, as these all teams are trying to keep themselves in the top 4 to qualify for the semi finals and win the World Cup trophy. As in between Pakistan and New Zealand, New Zealand is still favorite as they have some good batting power hitter who can score more than 400 runs and they played well.

Whether in Australia and England, Australia would be considered as favorite team, they had also score 399 in their recent match and they have the ability to score more runs and beat the England, as England is completely out of the form now  days and I don't think they give a tough time to Australia.

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November 04, 2023, 03:49:30 AM
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There are two matches today, one is between the Pakistan and Afghanistan and the 2nd one is between England and Australia, both the matches are between the top teams, as these all teams are trying to keep themselves in the top 4 to qualify for the semi finals and win the World Cup trophy. As in between Pakistan and New Zealand, New Zealand is still favorite as they have some good batting power hitter who can score more than 400 runs and they played well.
Not, First match is between Pakistan and New Zealand. I think Hasan Ali is likely to replace Usama Mir in the playing XI tomorrow. Shadab Khan to be assessed tomorrow morning before the match. If he is deemed fit, he will likely be replacing Agha Salman. Pakistan will go with 4 pacers + 2 spinners against New Zealand. 4 pacers might actually work seeing as how pacers are the only one either getting wickets or asserting pressure on the opposition. hopefully shadab’s fit, pakistan need him as a batsman and a fielder
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November 04, 2023, 03:49:53 AM
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I think it's early to expect such things from Afghanistan, they have already done justice with there performance. They have won 3 games and looks like wining another game today. This WC is confined around 4 teams aka Aus, NZ, SA and India there is hardly anything left for others. This World Cup is a nightmare for SL as they have faced huge defeats this time.
So far it looks like Afghanistan are playing very well. Currently 13 over is running they are lose only they are two wicket and there is 71. If this continues if Afghanistan can keep their wicket and play without rushing then I think Afghanistan will win today. But Netherlands can't be taken too lightly because they too have come up with a fairly good performance, now if their bowling performance can be improved then Afghanistan can lose Afghanistan has many records of losing such matches.
Afghanistan A very sensible and mature knock by Rahmat Shah 52 off 54. Seems like he has worked on his strike rate as well. At present Afghanistan scored 136/3 wickets in 24th Over. Afghanistan are now so close to win this match they need 44 more runs in 26 overs and they have 7 wickets in hand. A brilliant innings of Rahamt Shah fueled with 8 fours has ended in Lucknow against Netherlands.


The good thing about yesterday's win was that Afghanistan chased the total professionally and they made sure that they do not lose many wickets and also achieved the total in less over to increase their overall run rate. They achieved the target of 179 runs in only 31.3 overs and hence it was a big win for them.

With this win, Afghanistan is in the number 5th position on the points table. However if we compare the run rate of New Zealand (who also have 8 points) but in the 4th position, they have a positive run rate of 0.484 while Afghanistan has a negative rate of -0.330. This means that Afghanistan has to play and win the remaining matches with an even better run rate in case Afghanistan and New Zealand points are tied.

New Zealand, Australia and Pakistan will play their matches today and after today's result, the situation will be even more clearer as who will have more chances to be going to the semi-finals.

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November 04, 2023, 04:18:57 AM
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Bangladesh W vs Pakistan W
Earlier T20 series between Bangladesh women and Pakistan women team ended, Bangladesh women team won the series by 2-1 margin. ODI series starts from today. The ODI series will have a total of 3 matches, with the first match starting today. Bangladesh Women won the toss and decided to bat. After winning the toss, Bangladesh women's team came to bat, were under a lot of pressure from the start and at this moment they are under a lot more pressure after losing 3 wickets. Bangladesh women's team has so far collected 15 runs in 10 overs by taking 3 wickets. Bangladesh women's team will find it difficult to score 150+ if wickets fall like this and if they are under pressure. Both Nigar Sultana and Shorna Akter need to perform well to recover from the pressure. Pakistan's Sadia Iqbal bowled very well taking 3 wickets alone. Let's see how many runs the Bangladesh women's team can give the target.
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Surprisingly, Pakistan is going with 4 fast bowlers, and they do not have a front-line spinner in their playing eleven. Probably because of their spinner's recent bowling form. On the other hand, New Zealand played only 2 fast bowlers. One of them has miscalculated the pitch; let's see who gets the analysis right. The conditions are slightly overcast, and we might see rain interruption in the 2nd inning. 290 is a par score at this wicket, said Matthew Hayden.

The competition for the 3rd and 4th slots of the semi-final is getting tougher and tougher. Australia will more likely book the third spot in the Semi-final by winning the match against England. New Zealand, Pakistan and Afghanistan have to win all their matches to qualify for the semi-finals, and because this is not possible, today's match will decide the fate of these teams.

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, they might not be able to qualify for the semi-finals, as their remaining matches are against South Africa and Australia. If they win against any of these two teams, things will get interesting. Let's see how things unfold in the coming days.

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I will put Australia ahead of this match of Australia vs England today. The current champion England 2023 World Cup is their worst performance. As if the whole world is watching New England, they are playing so badly in this World Cup. England is at number 10 in the points table. So even if they win or lose today's match, they will have no benefit. The condition of England's batting line is very bad they are not able to run well plus they are not able to bowl well this is the condition of their team. We have seen Australia's batting line up, they are batting brilliantly. If Australia get a chance to bat first today, they will score big runs and target England. If Australia can win today, it will make the semi-final equation easier for them.

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November 04, 2023, 05:44:03 AM
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In the first match of the day against New Zealand, Pakistan elected to field first after winning the toss. New Zealand got off to a good start despite losing the toss. New Zealand scored 59 runs in the first nine overs without losing any wickets. 

Batting in the second innings at the Bangalore Stadium is easy to win but if New Zealand can put up a big target in front of Pakistan in the first innings, New Zealand will have a great chance of winning this match.

If Pakistan can't fall wickets in the first 10 overs then surely a big target is waiting for Pakistan.
Many may say that Pakistan has a record of winning by chasing big targets but Pakistan got that win against Sri Lanka but it is New Zealand who have the best bowling line-up in the world. So if Pakistan wants to win this match, the bowlers must do well.
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November 04, 2023, 06:00:10 AM
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In the first match of the day against New Zealand, Pakistan elected to field first after winning the toss. New Zealand got off to a good start despite losing the toss. New Zealand scored 59 runs in the first nine overs without losing any wickets. 

Batting in the second innings at the Bangalore Stadium is easy to win but if New Zealand can put up a big target in front of Pakistan in the first innings, New Zealand will have a great chance of winning this match.

If Pakistan can't fall wickets in the first 10 overs then surely a big target is waiting for Pakistan.
Many may say that Pakistan has a record of winning by chasing big targets but Pakistan got that win against Sri Lanka but it is New Zealand who have the best bowling line-up in the world. So if Pakistan wants to win this match, the bowlers must do well.
Kane Williamson is one down wicket and will look to guide New Zealand as best as he can as captain. New Zealand started brilliantly but fell by one wicket for 68 runs. However, it is clear that the bowling of Pakistan's pacers is not doing well on the Indian pitch. Hasan Ali, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf are giving an economy of over seven runs per over. If they fail to control the economy, New Zealand's total will go above 300 runs.

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Surprisingly, Pakistan is going with 4 fast bowlers, and they do not have a front-line spinner in their playing eleven. Probably because of their spinner's recent bowling form. On the other hand, New Zealand played only 2 fast bowlers. One of them has miscalculated the pitch; let's see who gets the analysis right. The conditions are slightly overcast, and we might see rain interruption in the 2nd inning. 290 is a par score at this wicket, said Matthew Hayden.
Yes, its surprising for me that Pakistan is playing with 4 Pace bowlers and NewZealand will all spin bowling attack. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bowl first in Bangalore pitch. New Zealand players very good so far in fiest 13 overs the current score of NewZealand is 82 runs in loss of 1 wickets only. Hassan ali is only fast bowlers that picked 1 wicket of Devon Conway. Devon Conway is out after scoring 35 runs in 39 balls. Rachin Ravindra is playing good 30 runs not out in 31 balls alongside with Kane Williamson is playing at 15 runs in 10 balls. NewZealand will go to cross 300 plus total for Pakistan.



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November 04, 2023, 06:27:23 AM
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Yes, its surprising for me that Pakistan is playing with 4 Pace bowlers and NewZealand will all spin bowling attack. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bowl first in Bangalore pitch. New Zealand players very good so far in fiest 13 overs the current score of NewZealand is 82 runs in loss of 1 wickets only. Hassan ali is only fast bowlers that picked 1 wicket of Devon Conway. Devon Conway is out after scoring 35 runs in 39 balls. Rachin Ravindra is playing good 30 runs not out in 31 balls alongside with Kane Williamson is playing at 15 runs in 10 balls. NewZealand will go to cross 300 plus total for Pakistan.
The New Zealand team is going very progressive in today's match. They lost only one wicket in 15 overs and did a massive score of 97 runs which in these overs is very good and if they go with the same pattern it will be very difficult for the Pakistan team to chase them. In the bowlers, I think Hassan Ali is good not because he took a wicket but because he gave the least digits of runs to them. He did 5 overs and gave only 25 runs and the others did 4,3,3 overs and giving more runs. The match is not going in the favour of Pakistan it will be difficult for them to chase. The only thing they can do is not give the runs the least they give the runs more chances of winning the match. 
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Yes, its surprising for me that Pakistan is playing with 4 Pace bowlers and NewZealand will all spin bowling attack. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bowl first in Bangalore pitch. New Zealand players very good so far in fiest 13 overs the current score of NewZealand is 82 runs in loss of 1 wickets only. Hassan ali is only fast bowlers that picked 1 wicket of Devon Conway. Devon Conway is out after scoring 35 runs in 39 balls. Rachin Ravindra is playing good 30 runs not out in 31 balls alongside with Kane Williamson is playing at 15 runs in 10 balls. NewZealand will go to cross 300 plus total for Pakistan.
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NZ 112/1 in 17 overs, tells a lot about the match. If things went as they are right now then NZ will defiantly score somewhere around 350. The match is crucial for both teams and I think its not a wise move from Pakistan skipper to bowl first after winning the toss. To win this game Pakistan need to restrict NZ to some low total which at the moment is not looking possible.    

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November 04, 2023, 06:37:52 AM
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Yes, its surprising for me that Pakistan is playing with 4 Pace bowlers and NewZealand will all spin bowling attack. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bowl first in Bangalore pitch. New Zealand players very good so far in fiest 13 overs the current score of NewZealand is 82 runs in loss of 1 wickets only. Hassan ali is only fast bowlers that picked 1 wicket of Devon Conway. Devon Conway is out after scoring 35 runs in 39 balls. Rachin Ravindra is playing good 30 runs not out in 31 balls alongside with Kane Williamson is playing at 15 runs in 10 balls. NewZealand will go to cross 300 plus total for Pakistan.
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NZ 112/1 in 17 overs, tells a lot about the match. If things went as they are right now then NZ will defiantly score somewhere around 350. The match is crucial for both teams and I think its not a wise move from Pakistan skipper to bowl first after winning the toss. To win this game Pakistan need to restrict NZ to some low total which at the moment is not looking possible.    

Asking other team to bat first on a batting friendly wicket is a suicide and looks like Pakistan has done the same with themselves today. Anything close to 350 will not be easy to chase and New Zealand is looking to get there easily with the start they have. Rachin Ravindra is about to make his half century and Kane Williamson who has come after a long time in the team, is also looking in good form.

From Pakistan's point of view, they need wickets and a few of them quite early now, otherwise, New Zealand may seal the match if they are able to score runs freely throughout the innings as they are doing it right now.

New Zealand also knows the importance of this match as the win today will mean a sure shot position in the semi final, so they won't play anything loose today.

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November 04, 2023, 06:38:25 AM
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Pakistan included 4 pacers in their playing XI for today's match (Shaheen Shah Afridi, Hasan Ali, Haris Rauf and Mohammad Wasim). None of them are looking effective. BTW, what is the logic in going with such a pace-heavy attack in M Chinnaswamy Stadium? It is not a ground that supports pace and seam bowling. They should have gone with 3 pacers and included an additional batsman in the place of either Wasim or Hasan Ali. BTW, New Zealand has reached 125/1 after 20 overs. They look well set for a total of around 350-360.

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November 04, 2023, 06:47:09 AM
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Yes, its surprising for me that Pakistan is playing with 4 Pace bowlers and NewZealand will all spin bowling attack. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bowl first in Bangalore pitch. New Zealand players very good so far in fiest 13 overs the current score of NewZealand is 82 runs in loss of 1 wickets only. Hassan ali is only fast bowlers that picked 1 wicket of Devon Conway. Devon Conway is out after scoring 35 runs in 39 balls. Rachin Ravindra is playing good 30 runs not out in 31 balls alongside with Kane Williamson is playing at 15 runs in 10 balls. NewZealand will go to cross 300 plus total for Pakistan.
The New Zealand team is going very progressive in today's match. They lost only one wicket in 15 overs and did a massive score of 97 runs which in these overs is very good and if they go with the same pattern it will be very difficult for the Pakistan team to chase them. In the bowlers, I think Hassan Ali is good not because he took a wicket but because he gave the least digits of runs to them. He did 5 overs and gave only 25 runs and the others did 4,3,3 overs and giving more runs. The match is not going in the favour of Pakistan it will be difficult for them to chase. The only thing they can do is not give the runs the least they give the runs more chances of winning the match. 
NewZealand is palying really well 134 runs in loss of 1 wickets only in 21 overs. Pakistan bowling is quite disappointing no other fast bowlers picking wickets. Kane Williamson and Rachin Ravindra is playing good a decent partnership 70 runs between them. Kane Williamson is playing at 28 runs in 32 balls and Rachin Ravindra played an important innings and scored fifty his 3rd fifty in this world cup. Rachin Ravindra is playing at 59 runs unbeaten in 60 runs. If Pakistan didn't break this partnership of Williamson and Ravindra then NewZealand will score a big target of 350 runs on board.



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November 04, 2023, 07:33:17 AM
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After winning the toss and choosing to field first, Pakistan's bowling attack hasn't justified the decision of their captain. The line and length of the bowlers are absolutely pathetic. I think the Pakistan captain has miscalculated the pitch condition. Anything over 350 will be difficult to chase on any surface, and Pakistan are known for their poor chasing history.
After 30 overs, NZ are 211/1, and with 9 wickets in hand, they will be targeting a total of 380+. The chances of Pakistan qualifying for this World Cup semi-final are almost over.

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