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December 01, 2023, 05:49:08 AM
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You can add Umran Malik in that list because he can clock 155 consistently but not accurate as the legendary names mentioned but we also need to accept the fact the cricket is becoming batting friendly so we may not see such kind of bowling ever again in the history books.

But am I the only one who enjoys the solid defence from Rahul Dravid when balls bowled at him clocking 150kmph? Cheesy

I mentioned only those who are regular in international cricket. Umran Malik is quick, but then he is not even a regular for his IPL side. Anyway, nowadays very few few of the fast bowlers even try to bowl as quick as they can. The focus is on control, so that the economy rate remains good. Those who didn't did that got replaced, such as Dale Steyn. Another factor that has impacted the fact bowlers is the heavy penalties that are being imposed for slow over rate. Most of the pacers nowadays have shorter run-up, in order to save time.

Cricket is a game where having a time restriction is not good at all. Cause if you restrict the fielding team with time the bowlers are not going to be able to perform well. Because a bowler needs a little bit of time to get ready for the next ball. Especially if he is a fast bowler. Nowadays, I have seen some bowlers, even run back to his mark as soon as he balls his ball. That is definitely not good. But with everything, getting faster and faster, and ICC giving every benefit to the batsmen, this was definitely going to happen. That is also a reason why many teams want to have three spinners in the team. They can move on with the overs quickly. There was a time when the top teams had four fast bowlers in the team. Those days are now past.

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December 01, 2023, 12:14:51 PM
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Cricket has become a batsmen's game now. Boundaries have become shorter and new rules for powerplay restrictions and noball has out the bowlers at a disadvantage. When a team scores 400 batting first and then goes on to lose that match, you know how biased this sport has become. And it's not like New Zealand is a weak bowling side. They had exceptional bowlers such as Trent Boult, Tim Southee and Mitchell Santner in their squad. I am not sure whether this is the way for cricket to move forward. I would rather prefer some sort of equilibrium between the batsmen and the bowlers.
Recently india announced their ODI squads for South Africa tour KL Rahul lead the indian team and sanju samson wicket keeper. India changed their most of players who played world cup 2023. Virat kohli, Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Muhammad Shami, Jasprit Bumrah and Muhammad Siraj not included in ODI squad. I think Fast bowlers are big challenge for team India becoz their senior bowlers are not playing. Their main spinners Axar patel, Chahal and kuldeep are in the squad. Their batters are Ruturaj gaikwad, Rinku singh, shreyas iyer, Tilak virma, Rajat Patidar and Sudharsan. lets see this new squad could won series in Africa

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December 01, 2023, 01:36:09 PM
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Cricket is a game where having a time restriction is not good at all. Cause if you restrict the fielding team with time the bowlers are not going to be able to perform well. Because a bowler needs a little bit of time to get ready for the next ball. Especially if he is a fast bowler. Nowadays, I have seen some bowlers, even run back to his mark as soon as he balls his ball. That is definitely not good. But with everything, getting faster and faster, and ICC giving every benefit to the batsmen, this was definitely going to happen. That is also a reason why many teams want to have three spinners in the team. They can move on with the overs quickly. There was a time when the top teams had four fast bowlers in the team. Those days are now past.

I am not sure what can be done for the time restriction. ICC introduced the rule, as the media rights holders were complaining about matches getting delayed and overshooting the allocated timeframe. And obviously when the duration is being considered, the pace bowlers are going to get more when compared to the spinners. And this means that when it comes to selection, the spin bowlers are sometimes selected ahead of pacers, just because they will help the captain to finish overs within the allocated time. 

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December 01, 2023, 03:14:11 PM
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Cricket has become a batsmen's game now. Boundaries have become shorter and new rules for powerplay restrictions and noball has out the bowlers at a disadvantage. When a team scores 400 batting first and then goes on to lose that match, you know how biased this sport has become. And it's not like New Zealand is a weak bowling side. They had exceptional bowlers such as Trent Boult, Tim Southee and Mitchell Santner in their squad. I am not sure whether this is the way for cricket to move forward. I would rather prefer some sort of equilibrium between the batsmen and the bowlers.
Recently india announced their ODI squads for South Africa tour KL Rahul lead the indian team and sanju samson wicket keeper. India changed their most of players who played world cup 2023. Virat kohli, Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Muhammad Shami, Jasprit Bumrah and Muhammad Siraj not included in ODI squad. I think Fast bowlers are big challenge for team India becoz their senior bowlers are not playing. Their main spinners Axar patel, Chahal and kuldeep are in the squad. Their batters are Ruturaj gaikwad, Rinku singh, shreyas iyer, Tilak virma, Rajat Patidar and Sudharsan. lets see this new squad could won series in Africa
I believe selectors are checking their bench power into this series which is good and now as they have huge pool with good bowlers and all-rounders giving rest to their few main players is also good idea because with these things can go in positive way and youngsters can also take good experience.

These all new batters are doing good job so they deserve chance into this series for the future most chances now after T20i World cup we will have good changes in white-ball format team for the India because now it's good time for looking into future and having all youngsters into their pool as well which will increase their quality and performance they can give tough challenge to South Africa which is having another disappointing end of their campaign into ODI World Cup.

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December 01, 2023, 03:37:39 PM
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Cricket has become a batsmen's game now. Boundaries have become shorter and new rules for powerplay restrictions and noball has out the bowlers at a disadvantage. When a team scores 400 batting first and then goes on to lose that match, you know how biased this sport has become. And it's not like New Zealand is a weak bowling side. They had exceptional bowlers such as Trent Boult, Tim Southee and Mitchell Santner in their squad. I am not sure whether this is the way for cricket to move forward. I would rather prefer some sort of equilibrium between the batsmen and the bowlers.
Recently india announced their ODI squads for South Africa tour KL Rahul lead the indian team and sanju samson wicket keeper. India changed their most of players who played world cup 2023. Virat kohli, Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Muhammad Shami, Jasprit Bumrah and Muhammad Siraj not included in ODI squad. I think Fast bowlers are big challenge for team India becoz their senior bowlers are not playing. Their main spinners Axar patel, Chahal and kuldeep are in the squad. Their batters are Ruturaj gaikwad, Rinku singh, shreyas iyer, Tilak virma, Rajat Patidar and Sudharsan. lets see this new squad could won series in Africa

I would use the word rested instead of replaced because these players have been in action for the past few months and they need ample time to recover from the stress and everyone brought back in for the test matches that is where the real game begins.

ODI squad looks good especially Rinku has been given chance if I am not wrong, and hopefully he will seal a spot in the team if he does what he is doing in the Indian pitches on SA pitches too.

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December 01, 2023, 04:06:47 PM
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Cricket is a game where having a time restriction is not good at all. Cause if you restrict the fielding team with time the bowlers are not going to be able to perform well. Because a bowler needs a little bit of time to get ready for the next ball. Especially if he is a fast bowler. Nowadays, I have seen some bowlers, even run back to his mark as soon as he balls his ball. That is definitely not good. But with everything, getting faster and faster, and ICC giving every benefit to the batsmen, this was definitely going to happen. That is also a reason why many teams want to have three spinners in the team. They can move on with the overs quickly. There was a time when the top teams had four fast bowlers in the team. Those days are now past.

I am not sure what can be done for the time restriction. ICC introduced the rule, as the media rights holders were complaining about matches getting delayed and overshooting the allocated timeframe. And obviously when the duration is being considered, the pace bowlers are going to get more when compared to the spinners. And this means that when it comes to selection, the spin bowlers are sometimes selected ahead of pacers, just because they will help the captain to finish overs within the allocated time. 

I think the problem could easily have been fixed. Remember there are a lot of sponsors for football and a lot of companies are also dying to be the sponsors of big clubs. But if you think about it, football is really not that good of a sport to be the sponsor. Because in theory, football does not have any break. They only have one break of 10 minutes. Other than that it is straight match time throughout the whole 90 minutes. And in cricket, you can have a commercial break after every six balls. so should definitely be more profitable for companies. But the problem is football is played by almost all the countries in the world professionally. And cricket is honestly played by 10 to 12 teams. The other teams are just made out of India and Pakistan players. so if ICC did not have such a problem with promoting cricket to the whole world, I think they wouldn't have been under so much pressure on finishing the match in time.

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December 01, 2023, 04:13:51 PM
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Cricket has become a batsmen's game now. Boundaries have become shorter and new rules for powerplay restrictions and noball has out the bowlers at a disadvantage. When a team scores 400 batting first and then goes on to lose that match, you know how biased this sport has become. And it's not like New Zealand is a weak bowling side. They had exceptional bowlers such as Trent Boult, Tim Southee and Mitchell Santner in their squad. I am not sure whether this is the way for cricket to move forward. I would rather prefer some sort of equilibrium between the batsmen and the bowlers.
Recently india announced their ODI squads for South Africa tour KL Rahul lead the indian team and sanju samson wicket keeper. India changed their most of players who played world cup 2023. Virat kohli, Rohit Sharma, Shubman Gill, Muhammad Shami, Jasprit Bumrah and Muhammad Siraj not included in ODI squad. I think Fast bowlers are big challenge for team India becoz their senior bowlers are not playing. Their main spinners Axar patel, Chahal and kuldeep are in the squad. Their batters are Ruturaj gaikwad, Rinku singh, shreyas iyer, Tilak virma, Rajat Patidar and Sudharsan. lets see this new squad could won series in Africa

I would use the word rested instead of replaced because these players have been in action for the past few months and they need ample time to recover from the stress and everyone brought back in for the test matches that is where the real game begins.

ODI squad looks good especially Rinku has been given chance if I am not wrong, and hopefully he will seal a spot in the team if he does what he is doing in the Indian pitches on SA pitches too.

It is actually good to see that India is taking the health of players seriously, and giving the players rest who are performing consistently for a long time. And this will also create opportunities for other players to show what they are capable of. India has a big pool of talent. A lot of players can go unnoticed even after performing really well.

Remember Ambati Rayudu? I think if India had given him enough chances he could have performed really well for his country. I don't want any good player like him to go unnoticed and the way India is approaching things right now, it looks like that is more unlikely to happen.



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Every player in the 2023 World Cup Team India played brilliantly. Their hopes of becoming champions ended after losing the 2023 World Cup final match against Australia. India's ODI squad has been reshuffled for the upcoming tour of South Africa with 13 of India's performing players rested for the 2023 World Cup. The South Africa ODI series squad has been announced under the leadership of Lokesh Rahul. Apart from Rahul, Iyer and Kuldeep are among the players in the 2023 World Cup And let's see the new face in 13 players

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Remember Ambati Rayudu? I think if India had given him enough chances he could have performed really well for his country. I don't want any good player like him to go unnoticed and the way India is approaching things right now, it looks like that is more unlikely to happen.
Indian fans always say that, but that is what bound to happen when we have 1.5 billion and only 11 players can represent the national side, we can also add Sanju Samson in that list. But finally he got a spot in this series, hopefully he will get a chance to play.

Ambati Rayudu or Sanju Samson, when they have been asked about this their response has been always like they achieved more than they expected in the cricket career that shows how many talents are going unnoticed in the domestic level itself.

Thanks to the IPL which became motivational factor for the talents and get to play for a franchise and if they can shine there then possibility to take down a chance from there is less for selection committee.

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December 01, 2023, 07:31:46 PM
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Every player in the 2023 World Cup Team India played brilliantly. Their hopes of becoming champions ended after losing the 2023 World Cup final match against Australia. India's ODI squad has been reshuffled for the upcoming tour of South Africa with 13 of India's performing players rested for the 2023 World Cup. The South Africa ODI series squad has been announced under the leadership of Lokesh Rahul. Apart from Rahul, Iyer and Kuldeep are among the players in the 2023 World Cup And let's see the new face in 13 players

Indian team was played good in their home ground but before the final their all matches was good enough to defeat all the teams before. Even before they had already played enough good cricket against Australia in their match that was done before the Final.

Even for Australia the target was so easy to achieve and also now in the t20 series that is already played at their home ground. Australia played good cricket against the team India regarding the performance of Glenn Maxwell.

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Remember Ambati Rayudu? I think if India had given him enough chances he could have performed really well for his country. I don't want any good player like him to go unnoticed and the way India is approaching things right now, it looks like that is more unlikely to happen.
Indian fans always say that, but that is what bound to happen when we have 1.5 billion and only 11 players can represent the national side, we can also add Sanju Samson in that list. But finally he got a spot in this series, hopefully he will get a chance to play.

Ambati Rayudu or Sanju Samson, when they have been asked about this their response has been always like they achieved more than they expected in the cricket career that shows how many talents are going unnoticed in the domestic level itself.

Thanks to the IPL which became motivational factor for the talents and get to play for a franchise and if they can shine there then possibility to take down a chance from there is less for selection committee.

Sanju Samson is a good batsmen from their side recently I have seen its performance which was quite good in the previous session of the IPL. While wee see the IPL there are more players that came up in the front. But we can see the more players which like cricket would be in the side of these IPL players which can't only play but they can show us the real cricket for which we they are already been famous for. Even the cricketers we have seen in the PSL are also good but when there came the IPL we would think of big players on the screen.

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December 03, 2023, 02:38:19 AM
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Indian team was played good in their home ground but before the final their all matches was good enough to defeat all the teams before. Even before they had already played enough good cricket against Australia in their match that was done before the Final.

Even for Australia the target was so easy to achieve and also now in the t20 series that is already played at their home ground. Australia played good cricket against the team India regarding the performance of Glenn Maxwell.
India is making changes in team and giving the chance to the new players which is good thing. Like you make a touch to T20I series. They are doing to their best to make a good team and learning from mistakes.
And I think that was the bad luck of Indian team in the final match. They tried really well but Unfortunately they did not. The luck was in the favor of Australian team.
Well, they are trying to their best to make a good team.

And you talked about Glenn Maxwell. He is the legend when he remained on the pitch he pulled the victory for his team. Like we can see in the case of Afghanistan and Australia's match. That was a great match. And then we can see in the T20I match. That was also an amazing match.
By the way that was a sad moment when the India lost the final match.

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Every player in the 2023 World Cup Team India played brilliantly. Their hopes of becoming champions ended after losing the 2023 World Cup final match against Australia. India's ODI squad has been reshuffled for the upcoming tour of South Africa with 13 of India's performing players rested for the 2023 World Cup. The South Africa ODI series squad has been announced under the leadership of Lokesh Rahul. Apart from Rahul, Iyer and Kuldeep are among the players in the 2023 World Cup And let's see the new face in 13 players

Indian team was played good in their home ground but before the final their all matches was good enough to defeat all the teams before. Even before they had already played enough good cricket against Australia in their match that was done before the Final.

Even for Australia the target was so easy to achieve and also now in the t20 series that is already played at their home ground. Australia played good cricket against the team India regarding the performance of Glenn Maxwell.
Rahul Dravi is the main Course of the Indian team. Rahul Dravi dressed the Indian team so well. Virat Kohli has been batting brilliantly since Rohit Sharma took over the captaincy. After winning the Asia Cup, the confidence of the Indian team increased manifold. 2023 World Cup India performed brilliantly. But unfortunately in the final match India could not bat very well against Australia. Rohit Sharma's team could not win the final match due to batting failure. As the 2023 World Cup ends, the Indian Cricket Board has announced the squad for the 5-T20I series against Australia, led by Surya Kumar Yadav. Indian young players are batting and bowling very well. They have already secured the series by winning three T20 matches. By winning this series, the Indian team will be able to forget the pain of not being champions in the final.

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Sanju Samson is a good batsmen from their side recently I have seen its performance which was quite good in the previous session of the IPL.
Sanju Samson is a good cricketer but it would not be wrong to call him the unluckiest cricketer. Sanju Samson's batting average or strike rate is not low compared to those who get a chance in Indian cricket but still I don't know why this batsman never gets noticed by the selectors. He is probably the most overlooked cricketer in the Indian team, I got one such news where he was offered by the Ireland Cricket Board and the deal was that if he joins the Ireland cricket team he will be given captaincy for life. Foreign countries may be trying to take advantage of his neglect but he will probably stay in India and it is a pity for him not to get a chance in the national team but still he will not represent any other country.
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Every player in the 2023 World Cup Team India played brilliantly. Their hopes of becoming champions ended after losing the 2023 World Cup final match against Australia. India's ODI squad has been reshuffled for the upcoming tour of South Africa with 13 of India's performing players rested for the 2023 World Cup. The South Africa ODI series squad has been announced under the leadership of Lokesh Rahul. Apart from Rahul, Iyer and Kuldeep are among the players in the 2023 World Cup And let's see the new face in 13 players

Indian team was played good in their home ground but before the final their all matches was good enough to defeat all the teams before. Even before they had already played enough good cricket against Australia in their match that was done before the Final.

Australia team performed very well against India in the final match. Last time the Indian team beat Australia at home by a huge margin and from there on took the top spot in the points table. So despite such a good performance, the Indian team lost in the final match with the Australian team, which left the Indian team very disappointed. Because the Indian cricketers thought that they could definitely win the final match. But with this hope in the final match Indian team had very bad bowling performance and batting performance due to which they lost.


Even for Australia the target was so easy to achieve and also now in the t20 series that is already played at their home ground. Australia played good cricket against the team India regarding the performance of Glenn Maxwell.

T20I matches have been played in four matches so far, but India won three of them and Australia won one match. And the final match today will definitely be a competitive battle between the two teams. Australia team will try hard to win today which will make for a very competitive match between the two teams. The Australian team has a lot of experienced players who are good enough to win. The Indian team also has young and experienced players who have won three matches and will surely try to win today as well.

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December 03, 2023, 10:59:21 AM
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Every player in the 2023 World Cup Team India played brilliantly. Their hopes of becoming champions ended after losing the 2023 World Cup final match against Australia. India's ODI squad has been reshuffled for the upcoming tour of South Africa with 13 of India's performing players rested for the 2023 World Cup. The South Africa ODI series squad has been announced under the leadership of Lokesh Rahul. Apart from Rahul, Iyer and Kuldeep are among the players in the 2023 World Cup And let's see the new face in 13 players


Some series are being started post World Cup 2023. Today is the first match of the England vs West Indies match series, and the match will start after sometime today, and I am 99% sure that England will win this match in a very good way because if you see so England is a powerful team and West Indies performance is so poor in the recent matches even they are unable to qualify for the World Cup and then they played qualify rounds but their team is no good so that's why we don't see them on the World Cup.

West Indies' bad time started when Chris Gayle took retirement. He was the man who often used to take his team to the winning positions single handedly. We miss those times.

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December 03, 2023, 11:08:35 AM
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Every player in the 2023 World Cup Team India played brilliantly. Their hopes of becoming champions ended after losing the 2023 World Cup final match against Australia. India's ODI squad has been reshuffled for the upcoming tour of South Africa with 13 of India's performing players rested for the 2023 World Cup. The South Africa ODI series squad has been announced under the leadership of Lokesh Rahul. Apart from Rahul, Iyer and Kuldeep are among the players in the 2023 World Cup And let's see the new face in 13 players


Some series are being started post World Cup 2023. Today is the first match of the England vs West Indies match series, and the match will start after sometime today, and I am 99% sure that England will win this match in a very good way because if you see so England is a powerful team and West Indies performance is so poor in the recent matches even they are unable to qualify for the World Cup and then they played qualify rounds but their team is no good so that's why we don't see them on the World Cup.

West Indies' bad time started when Chris Gayle took retirement. He was the man who often used to take his team to the winning positions single handedly. We miss those times.
First match of this West Indies vs England series are going to start after 150 minutes at North Sound and with the West Indies is having good home advantage and in last 40 ODI's which played 23 won by home side and 17 by England both are going with their young blood and West Indies is trying his best for having better result after losing spot in top ranks and England is also trying his best for having better result after worst ever end in ODI world cup in India.
Now West Indies need to look into future with new blood and better management can make things better for them otherwise currently they are down and out of the International cricket which is surely big setback for them after ruling this cricket for the decades.

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December 03, 2023, 12:03:51 PM
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West Indies vs England 1st ODI match will start, today's match will be really great because almost all the players of West Indies are young. Earlier, out of ten matches, West Indies won only two matches against England while England team won 8 matches. But currently it is difficult to say which team can win the series out of three ODI matches, but I think England can win the series, but England have not played very well in this World Cup, so how well England will bat with West Indies will be seen when the game starts. However today's match odds are West Indies @3.40 and England @1.33, the odds are lower for England.

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December 03, 2023, 12:11:39 PM
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West Indies vs England 1st ODI match will start, today's match will be really great because almost all the players of West Indies are young. Earlier, out of ten matches, West Indies won only two matches against England while England team won 8 matches. But currently it is difficult to say which team can win the series out of three ODI matches, but I think England can win the series, but England have not played very well in this World Cup, so how well England will bat with West Indies will be seen when the game starts. However today's match odds are West Indies @3.40 and England @1.33, the odds are lower for England.


The new series of ODI is coming between the one big team and one weak team. The big team is England and the poor team is West Indies. I know West Indies is one of the best teams in cricket in the past but they are not good.

They won the first ODI World Cup and the second ODI World Cup so you can imagine they won two World Cups in a row and now they had no space in the ODI World Cup. I am trying to say that their time has passed and now we can't see him in the ODI World Cups.
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December 03, 2023, 12:23:02 PM
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First match of this West Indies vs England series are going to start after 150 minutes at North Sound and with the West Indies is having good home advantage and in last 40 ODI's which played 23 won by home side and 17 by England both are going with their young blood and West Indies is trying his best for having better result after losing spot in top ranks and England is also trying his best for having better result after worst ever end in ODI world cup in India.
Now West Indies need to look into future with new blood and better management can make things better for them otherwise currently they are down and out of the International cricket which is surely big setback for them after ruling this cricket for the decades.

Finally today we have a one day match and this is the first ODI match between England vs West Indies, and West Indies don't have many chances to win this series due to their performances in the previous matches so that's why they did not have many chances to win but they can try.

Now, I think the West Indies team is no more maybe we treat them like Nepal or Hong Kong teams in the next few years because now their performances is not good. Once upon a time, every team had fear of their player, when they had Baran Lara, Chris Gayle, and Krein Pollard but now we can only miss them, we can only see him in leagues.

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