2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[carlisle1]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

They will always be a farm team no matter what they do or how they fare against some teams in a tune-up game. Casio is in the twilight of his career and he can't be relied on to lead a team to the quarterfinals at least. These farm teams are the ones that bring the PBA down but seem they are mum about it, maybe because of the amount of money involved, hope this will change in the near future.

facts! this team will continue to be like that a farm team that will always in the lowest part of the standing.

I just want to see them win. It's been a long time since they experienced that
win to the point that I'm tired of doing research to know when it was happened.

If they will continue to be like this, the interest in PBA is also affected by knowing
that the competitions when this team is competing is not valuable to
pay or just a waste of time.

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[ultrloa]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

They will always be a farm team no matter what they do or how they fare against some teams in a tune-up game. Casio is in the twilight of his career and he can't be relied on to lead a team to the quarterfinals at least. These farm teams are the ones that bring the PBA down but seem they are mum about it, maybe because of the amount of money involved, hope this will change in the near future.

facts! this team will continue to be like that a farm team that will always in the lowest part of the standing.

I just want to see them win. It's been a long time since they experienced that
win to the point that I'm tired of doing research to know when it was happened.

If they will continue to be like this, the interest in PBA is also affected by knowing
that the competitions when this team is competing is not valuable to
pay or just a waste of time.

This is one of the reason why many fans interest to watch PBA got turned of the turns of the events towards this since the advantage is always with the big companies and they always acquired the the rising big players in the league that's why we can't see the small teams rise up. If they continue to let this happen in PBA and they will not implement fairness also eliminate those farming system in the league for sure many people will not watch PBA and the players will fly overseas to try their fortune's there.

[Hypnosis00]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

They will always be a farm team no matter what they do or how they fare against some teams in a tune-up game. Casio is in the twilight of his career and he can't be relied on to lead a team to the quarterfinals at least. These farm teams are the ones that bring the PBA down but seem they are mum about it, maybe because of the amount of money involved, hope this will change in the near future.

facts! this team will continue to be like that a farm team that will always in the lowest part of the standing.

I just want to see them win. It's been a long time since they experienced that
win to the point that I'm tired of doing research to know when it was happened.

If they will continue to be like this, the interest in PBA is also affected by knowing
that the competitions when this team is competing is not valuable to
pay or just a waste of time.

This is one of the reason why many fans interest to watch PBA got turned of the turns of the events towards this since the advantage is always with the big companies and they always acquired the the rising big players in the league that's why we can't see the small teams rise up. If they continue to let this happen in PBA and they will not implement fairness also eliminate those farming system in the league for sure many people will not watch PBA and the players will fly overseas to try their fortune's there.

I'm not sure if they will change it, the system has been there for many years, so it's hard to take that out. If we like to see a more competitive league, then we should support other leagues where we believe that is more transparent and more competitive, and with that said, I think MPBL is the league that could at least compete a bit with the PBA.

Meanwhile, we have a fresh news,

Pingris decides not to play in MPBL

PHILIPPINE Basketball Association (PBA) legend Marc Pingris will no longer push through with his plans to come out of retirement at this time.

[goaldigger]

Anyway, have you guys heard about PBA joining an Asian League? not sure though but I've seen one article regarding this one.

Will you share that article? How would they join? in what way?

I’ve read this one as well, its EASL not sure how they come one with the teams or GILAS will represent our country on that league. This is good for PBA and for the players, if we are able to join but let’s focus first on the up coming Governors cup, it will happen by next week and I’m so excited to see the teams again on court.

So it's not really the PBA joining the EASL as Gilas Pilipinas is not only composed of PBA players, they can get players from other leagues as well like NCAA. Gilas Pilipinas represents out country, so getting the best players are very important but it should not be in conflict with the PBA games schedule.

There’s no statement with regards to GILAS but for sure, team Philippines have to send the best players and its not just compose of PBA players, but also with players from other league. We actually don’t know their plans, maybe a whole PBA team especially the team who will get the championship. EASL is not a major league so we might not see Gilas here.

[Kelvinid]

We actually don’t know their plans, maybe a whole PBA team especially the team who will get the championship. EASL is not a major league so we might not see Gilas here.

Let's talk about that later.. what about the start of the PBA next conference? what teams do you think will likely dominate? This isn't the same last conference as imports are gonna participate in this game, so the shitty teams will probably improve especially if they have a good import to match Brownlee and other imports that are competitive enough.

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

[LogitechMouse]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

Well, this might boost the confidence of the players of Blackwater by a little bit after having a very disappointing All Filipino Cup.

Because this is just a tune up game, I'm not expecting too much from it because it might be that the players of Meralco didn't perform at their best performance when they played against Blackwater. Lets just see it in the 8th of December on how BW will play and I just hope that their losing streak will be over this season because it very embarrassing if you will ask me.

[Vaculin]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

Well, this might boost the confidence of the players of Blackwater by a little bit after having a very disappointing All Filipino Cup.

Because this is just a tune up game, I'm not expecting too much from it because it might be that the players of Meralco didn't perform at their best performance when they played against Blackwater. Lets just see it in the 8th of December on how BW will play and I just hope that their losing streak will be over this season because it very embarrassing if you will ask me.

Yes it's very embarrassing but since this team is Blackwater, it's not surprising anymore, so they have to work hard to at least break that losing streak and maybe be ready for the new one, lol. All I can say is that I'm hoping there's no problem and they'll start the new conference according to the announced schedule as the timing is good, we will have a great month in December as the PBA is live again.

[Yamifoud]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

Well, this might boost the confidence of the players of Blackwater by a little bit after having a very disappointing All Filipino Cup.

Because this is just a tune up game, I'm not expecting too much from it because it might be that the players of Meralco didn't perform at their best performance when they played against Blackwater. Lets just see it in the 8th of December on how BW will play and I just hope that their losing streak will be over this season because it very embarrassing if you will ask me.

Yes it's very embarrassing but since this team is Blackwater, it's not surprising anymore, so they have to work hard to at least break that losing streak and maybe be ready for the new one, lol. All I can say is that I'm hoping there's no problem and they'll start the new conference according to the announced schedule as the timing is good, we will have a great month in December as the PBA is live again.

Their import is Jaylen Bond, looks like he has great numbers on the league that he is playing with before which is the Lega Serie A.
Look at this points average - https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/jaylen-bond-1.html
he could be one of the imports that we have to watch out as his numbers are telling me that he will be a good competitor among imports.

[samcrypto]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

Well, this might boost the confidence of the players of Blackwater by a little bit after having a very disappointing All Filipino Cup.

Because this is just a tune up game, I'm not expecting too much from it because it might be that the players of Meralco didn't perform at their best performance when they played against Blackwater. Lets just see it in the 8th of December on how BW will play and I just hope that their losing streak will be over this season because it very embarrassing if you will ask me.

Yes it's very embarrassing but since this team is Blackwater, it's not surprising anymore, so they have to work hard to at least break that losing streak and maybe be ready for the new one, lol. All I can say is that I'm hoping there's no problem and they'll start the new conference according to the announced schedule as the timing is good, we will have a great month in December as the PBA is live again.

Their import is Jaylen Bond, looks like he has great numbers on the league that he is playing with before which is the Lega Serie A.
Look at this points average - https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/jaylen-bond-1.html
he could be one of the imports that we have to watch out as his numbers are telling me that he will be a good competitor among imports.

He’s a great player, but actually all imports are great since the team will not hire an ordinary import, they have to get the best since this is their chance to win. I still believe on a team play here, if the import is good and have a good team, you can really be the team to watch. Can’t wait for the governors cup to start, also excited to see those imports playing in our court.

[bisdak40]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

They will always be a farm team no matter what they do or how they fare against some teams in a tune-up game. Casio is in the twilight of his career and he can't be relied on to lead a team to the quarterfinals at least. These farm teams are the ones that bring the PBA down but seem they are mum about it, maybe because of the amount of money involved, hope this will change in the near future.

facts! this team will continue to be like that a farm team that will always in the lowest part of the standing.

I just want to see them win. It's been a long time since they experienced that
win to the point that I'm tired of doing research to know when it was happened.

If they will continue to be like this, the interest in PBA is also affected by knowing
that the competitions when this team is competing is not valuable to
pay or just a waste of time.

For farm teams like Blackwater, they just stayed in the league for purely business, aiming for the championship is not the objective. Tune-up games is not a gauge on how good your team is because some of the opposing players will not give their all.

News from less than 24 hours ago, Carl Bryan Cruz was traded by Blackwater to TNT in exchange for oldie Jay Washington. As i said, they will always be a farm team and purely business for them.

[ultrloa]

Will the Blackwater would improve next conference?

This is a good news though. Amer-Casio pair impresses as Blackwater beats Meralco in tune-up... however it's just a tune up game, hopefully they'll do that in the actual game as last season they are winless IIRC.

They will always be a farm team no matter what they do or how they fare against some teams in a tune-up game. Casio is in the twilight of his career and he can't be relied on to lead a team to the quarterfinals at least. These farm teams are the ones that bring the PBA down but seem they are mum about it, maybe because of the amount of money involved, hope this will change in the near future.

facts! this team will continue to be like that a farm team that will always in the lowest part of the standing.

I just want to see them win. It's been a long time since they experienced that
win to the point that I'm tired of doing research to know when it was happened.

If they will continue to be like this, the interest in PBA is also affected by knowing
that the competitions when this team is competing is not valuable to
pay or just a waste of time.

This is one of the reason why many fans interest to watch PBA got turned of the turns of the events towards this since the advantage is always with the big companies and they always acquired the the rising big players in the league that's why we can't see the small teams rise up. If they continue to let this happen in PBA and they will not implement fairness also eliminate those farming system in the league for sure many people will not watch PBA and the players will fly overseas to try their fortune's there.

I'm not sure if they will change it, the system has been there for many years, so it's hard to take that out. If we like to see a more competitive league, then we should support other leagues where we believe that is more transparent and more competitive, and with that said, I think MPBL is the league that could at least compete a bit with the PBA.

Meanwhile, we have a fresh news,

Pingris decides not to play in MPBL

PHILIPPINE Basketball Association (PBA) legend Marc Pingris will no longer push through with his plans to come out of retirement at this time.

This system will not be change since those big companies have huge contribution to the league that's why they have huge advantage and we cannot expect them to became balance knowing that there are several farm team exist that's why for sure this current scenario in PBA will continue especially there commissioner doesn't care about huge trade which in favor always with SMB group.

Also its good to see Pingris will not push to play on MPBL he don't have anything to prove anymore he can be called legend for what contribution he have.

[goinmerry]

A really crazy trade that BlackWater exchanges their active player on their prime to an aging and almost close to retirement player. A pure 100% farm team in the league. PBA business and politics. If that will always happen, the league might be under shadowed by other local leagues.

They even called that trade fair. I'm seeing Blackwater again with a win-less record next conference that even their import will give up right away carrying that team.

[blockman]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

A really crazy trade that BlackWater exchanges their active player on their prime to an aging and almost close to retirement player. A pure 100% farm team in the league. PBA business and politics. If that will always happen, the league might be under shadowed by other local leagues.

They even called that trade fair. I'm seeing Blackwater again with a win-less record next conference that even their import will give up right away carrying that team.

A no win record for them. Well, PBA itself is really a big business for these teams and I thought that there's going to be a big change for Blackwater after its owner paid a courtesy call for their staff but it's likely that this is still the main business of theirs.

[Sanitough]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

I'm not sure about that, Mikey Williams has been playing terrific basketball, so with him and the import, I guess TNT is still the team to beat this conference. Of course, Brownlee is special but a lot has changed already and I hope Ginebra will find a good opponent that will give them a real challenge.

[LogitechMouse]

A really crazy trade that BlackWater exchanges their active player on their prime to an aging and almost close to retirement player. A pure 100% farm team in the league. PBA business and politics. If that will always happen, the league might be under shadowed by other local leagues.

They even called that trade fair. I'm seeing Blackwater again with a win-less record next conference that even their import will give up right away carrying that team.

SMB did some uneven trades in the past and so with Ginebra and Magnolia. Same goes for TNT. You see the pattern right.
SMC and MVP are doing uneven trades and they are saying that it is a fair trade. Pure bullsh*t and pure business and its obvious that this league is an SMC vs. MVP rivalry for years or maybe decades already.

How then can call an aging veteran being traded for a not too young-not too old though player like CBC. Maybe they are saying that it is a fair since it includes 2 second round picks. 2 second round picks? Is there an assurance that they will sign those second round picks . This is the reason why PBA is getting boring and boring as years goes by and this is also the reason why we want those talented PBA players to play outside PH. Like you said, PBA prefers business rather than competitiveness. They've ruined the league. They've ruined the competitiveness of the league and these independent teams are just becoming farm teams of SMC and MVP.

[carlisle1]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

I'm not sure about that, Mikey Williams has been playing terrific basketball, so with him and the import, I guess TNT is still the team to beat this conference. Of course, Brownlee is special but a lot has changed already and I hope Ginebra will find a good opponent that will give them a real challenge.

Ginebra is also one of the premier teams this coming governors cup, with Brownlee if he still have that same leadership the team will have a good chance

competing and trying to chase the title.. Though you said it right, Williams with the Import also have that same capabilities especially once he jive well with

their import, both will be the main threat to every opposing team, and with that deep backups TNT can continue and chase for another title.

[Yamifoud]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

I'm not sure about that, Mikey Williams has been playing terrific basketball, so with him and the import, I guess TNT is still the team to beat this conference. Of course, Brownlee is special but a lot has changed already and I hope Ginebra will find a good opponent that will give them a real challenge.

Ginebra is also one of the premier teams this coming governors cup, with Brownlee if he still have that same leadership the team will have a good chance

competing and trying to chase the title.. Though you said it right, Williams with the Import also have that same capabilities especially once he jive well with

their import, both will be the main threat to every opposing team, and with that deep backups TNT can continue and chase for another title.

I saw a picture about the schedule of the PBA games, and I see that the Ginebra vs Alaska will play this coming December 12. That will be next Sunday and we will see a battle of two imports Brownlee vs Mike Harris. I believe Harris already won a best import award before, so who do you think is the better import?

[Johnyz]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

I'm not sure about that, Mikey Williams has been playing terrific basketball, so with him and the import, I guess TNT is still the team to beat this conference. Of course, Brownlee is special but a lot has changed already and I hope Ginebra will find a good opponent that will give them a real challenge.

Ginebra is also one of the premier teams this coming governors cup, with Brownlee if he still have that same leadership the team will have a good chance

competing and trying to chase the title.. Though you said it right, Williams with the Import also have that same capabilities especially once he jive well with

their import, both will be the main threat to every opposing team, and with that deep backups TNT can continue and chase for another title.

I saw a picture about the schedule of the PBA games, and I see that the Ginebra vs Alaska will play this coming December 12. That will be next Sunday and we will see a battle of two imports Brownlee vs Mike Harris. I believe Harris already won a best import award before, so who do you think is the better import?

They both have the same good records and for me its not just about who is the best import but more importantly its about playing their best and help their team win on the whole competition, individual stats will only matter at the end of this league and I’m sure those imports are focus on that and not on their individual status. Ginebra have a better chance here to win if they play as a team.

[Yamifoud]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

I'm not sure about that, Mikey Williams has been playing terrific basketball, so with him and the import, I guess TNT is still the team to beat this conference. Of course, Brownlee is special but a lot has changed already and I hope Ginebra will find a good opponent that will give them a real challenge.

Ginebra is also one of the premier teams this coming governors cup, with Brownlee if he still have that same leadership the team will have a good chance

competing and trying to chase the title.. Though you said it right, Williams with the Import also have that same capabilities especially once he jive well with

their import, both will be the main threat to every opposing team, and with that deep backups TNT can continue and chase for another title.

I saw a picture about the schedule of the PBA games, and I see that the Ginebra vs Alaska will play this coming December 12. That will be next Sunday and we will see a battle of two imports Brownlee vs Mike Harris. I believe Harris already won a best import award before, so who do you think is the better import?

They both have the same good records and for me its not just about who is the best import but more importantly its about playing their best and help their team win on the whole competition, individual stats will only matter at the end of this league and I’m sure those imports are focus on that and not on their individual status. Ginebra have a better chance here to win if they play as a team.

Ginebra always play as a team, especially with Brownlee who already are familiar with this teammates, my concern is Mike Harris whom I believe is the first time to play with Alaska if I'm not mistaken, or if he played with Alaska before, then it still looks new as Alaska has changed their coach and some of their players.

[Sanitough]

Will Ginebra be able to defend their title?

Likely. As usual with every conference, they're always at their best and likely to defend their titles and becomes the champ again.

I'm not sure about that, Mikey Williams has been playing terrific basketball, so with him and the import, I guess TNT is still the team to beat this conference. Of course, Brownlee is special but a lot has changed already and I hope Ginebra will find a good opponent that will give them a real challenge.

Ginebra is also one of the premier teams this coming governors cup, with Brownlee if he still have that same leadership the team will have a good chance

competing and trying to chase the title.. Though you said it right, Williams with the Import also have that same capabilities especially once he jive well with

their import, both will be the main threat to every opposing team, and with that deep backups TNT can continue and chase for another title.

If the import of TNT is good enough defensively, I think it's already enough for them to win as TNT has a lot of shooters. Brownlee may look like the best import but that was years back, we might see some surprises now from the new imports and hopefully, they'll bring more excitement to see this conference a more interesting one.

McKenzie Moore is their import, I have not seen him play in the PBA yet, let's see what he can bring to the team.
his record - https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/mckenzie-moore-1.html