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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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April 11, 2022, 12:33:34 PM
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I predicted right from the start that Ginebra will win in 6 games but I will not surprised now if this will go in 7 games. That would be better and a win-win situation for the audiences and the management as well Smiley.

You'll be more surprised if Meralco will win the series.

The way it's happening now, looks like Meralco is more dominant than the Gin Kings. You see, if JB would struggle, the entire roster will not be productive, and Meralco took advantage of that, also, Meralco's import is more confident now, I think this is the first time that he outperformed brownlee in an import to import duel.
The way how Meralco is defending Ginebra right now, yeah I will not be surprised as well if they will beat the Gin Kings.

JB struggled because of how Hodge is defending him. Hodge is like the Patrick Beverley of PBA where he is just annoying their shooter and not doing any stats like points etc. and we can see that he is very effective defending Brownlee because his performance dropped massively in the 2nd half. On the other hand, nobody can stop Bishop from scoring because they don't have any legit defender that can defend him. If only Japeth is playing :|.

There is a famous quote in sports that is "Offense win games, defense win championships" and with how Meralco is playing, they might defeat them though I will stick with my prediction Smiley.

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April 11, 2022, 04:33:17 PM
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The way how Meralco is defending Ginebra right now, yeah I will not be surprised as well if they will beat the Gin Kings.

JB struggled because of how Hodge is defending him. Hodge is like the Patrick Beverley of PBA where he is just annoying their shooter and not doing any stats like points etc. and we can see that he is very effective defending Brownlee because his performance dropped massively in the 2nd half. On the other hand, nobody can stop Bishop from scoring because they don't have any legit defender that can defend him. If only Japeth is playing :|.

There is a famous quote in sports that is "Offense win games, defense win championships" and with how Meralco is playing, they might defeat them though I will stick with my prediction Smiley.
Such adjustment that being done by coach Norman Black, the two coaches are very familiar with each other and I'm not going to be surprise also if we will see much dominant Ginebra coming this game 4, The defense is too tight for Brownlee and that's the courtesy of having Hodge who's more on winning the game instead of taking care of his personal stats.

But we can also expect explosions from Ginebra's locals. They are also unpredictable once the heat starts to fire up.

Another game to watch if who's going to dominate, either Ginebra will tie it up or Meralco will have a two game leads.  Cool Smiley

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April 11, 2022, 08:47:55 PM
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The way how Meralco is defending Ginebra right now, yeah I will not be surprised as well if they will beat the Gin Kings.

JB struggled because of how Hodge is defending him. Hodge is like the Patrick Beverley of PBA where he is just annoying their shooter and not doing any stats like points etc. and we can see that he is very effective defending Brownlee because his performance dropped massively in the 2nd half. On the other hand, nobody can stop Bishop from scoring because they don't have any legit defender that can defend him. If only Japeth is playing :|.

There is a famous quote in sports that is "Offense win games, defense win championships" and with how Meralco is playing, they might defeat them though I will stick with my prediction Smiley.
Such adjustment that being done by coach Norman Black, the two coaches are very familiar with each other and I'm not going to be surprise also if we will see much dominant Ginebra coming this game 4, The defense is too tight for Brownlee and that's the courtesy of having Hodge who's more on winning the game instead of taking care of his personal stats.

But we can also expect explosions from Ginebra's locals. They are also unpredictable once the heat starts to fire up.

Another game to watch if who's going to dominate, either Ginebra will tie it up or Meralco will have a two game leads.  Cool Smiley


Ginebra has the biggest chance of winning in game 3 because they have a huge crowd, I'm not sure in game 4 if they can even the series, maybe they just don't need a crowd to be on their side  but the refs as well, you know what I'm saying.  Grin
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April 11, 2022, 09:11:43 PM
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Ginebra has the biggest chance of winning in game 3 because they have a huge crowd, I'm not sure in game 4 if they can even the series, maybe they just don't need a crowd to be on their side  but the refs as well, you know what I'm saying.  Grin

As always, they can rely on the refs if the management wants this series to extend to game 7.

Also, Meralco could take the lead for 3-1 standing, but it does not mean the series could end soon because we all know that Ginebra is #NSD team, so they'll come back, of course with the help of the refs and tie the series. That's just some crazy scenario I'm seeing from this series.

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April 11, 2022, 09:56:11 PM
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Ginebra has the biggest chance of winning in game 3 because they have a huge crowd, I'm not sure in game 4 if they can even the series, maybe they just don't need a crowd to be on their side  but the refs as well, you know what I'm saying.  Grin

As always, they can rely on the refs if the management wants this series to extend to game 7.
I've seen that many times that's why we need to be diligent when it comes to putting our bet, always analyze carefully the line offered as it could just be a trap from the smart bookmakers.

Also, Meralco could take the lead for 3-1 standing, but it does not mean the series could end soon because we all know that Ginebra is #NSD team, so they'll come back, of course with the help of the refs and tie the series. That's just some crazy scenario I'm seeing from this series.
Just like what SMB did few seasons back, they were able to win a championship after being down by 3-1 in the series, however, there's fajardo that time and I think it's an all Filipino cup. Here, we have player imports, if one import will struggle, then that's a big advantage on the opposing team.
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April 11, 2022, 11:42:45 PM
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They were not able to sustain their dominance, Brownlee was defended well in the 2nd half, the reason why his production is lower compared to game 2. Japeth Aguilar's defense will be missed, unlike the Bolts who have Almazan and Hodge doing some pretty good job defending brownlee too.

Justin Brownlee is really off-night on that game. Even during the time Ginebra has a big lead, Brownlee isn't having a good production and instead, the locals are the ones who are making some adjustments. However, later in the game, Brownlee slowly keeping up with the phase but the locals got their gas lack at the end.

Meralco's Tony Bishop takes that advantage and tries to dominate Brownlee in every possession. No one can stop him on the paint and his FG% on the shaded area is really impressive.

If Meralco will have a chance to take a big lead early in Game 4, expect they can maintain it and that's what Ginebra should have to work out. Meralco is doing great making a rally even behind big points, how much more if they are in the big lead.

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April 12, 2022, 10:59:45 AM
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If Meralco will have a chance to take a big lead early in Game 4, expect they can maintain it and that's what Ginebra should have to work out. Meralco is doing great making a rally even behind big points, how much more if they are in the big lead.

This is what Ginebra should not allow, they'll be in trouble once the Meralco will take the lead early as they are good at maintaining the lead. It looks like the Meralco have already matured and they have the support from every guy on the floor to contribute, last game, Black wasn't scoring pretty well but the Bolts still manage to win.

This team is very unpredictable compared to Ginebra that we already know who would produce the offense.
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April 12, 2022, 11:18:26 AM
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If Meralco will have a chance to take a big lead early in Game 4, expect they can maintain it and that's what Ginebra should have to work out. Meralco is doing great making a rally even behind big points, how much more if they are in the big lead.

This is what Ginebra should not allow, they'll be in trouble once the Meralco will take the lead early as they are good at maintaining the lead. It looks like the Meralco have already matured and they have the support from every guy on the floor to contribute, last game, Black wasn't scoring pretty well but the Bolts still manage to win.

This team is very unpredictable compared to Ginebra that we already know who would produce the offense.

Meralco is winning this series. LOL

I believe this will be a long series, Ginebra has to even the series, that's their biggest chance to come back and make it to game 7. Coach Tim Cone is the best coach in the PBA, so I'm sure he will find a way to beat the Meralco Boltz.

I'm curious what would be the betting odds in game 4, I hope Ginebra will only be -1.5 favorite again, they are good at that number.
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April 12, 2022, 12:07:43 PM
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If Meralco will have a chance to take a big lead early in Game 4, expect they can maintain it and that's what Ginebra should have to work out. Meralco is doing great making a rally even behind big points, how much more if they are in the big lead.

This is what Ginebra should not allow, they'll be in trouble once the Meralco will take the lead early as they are good at maintaining the lead. It looks like the Meralco have already matured and they have the support from every guy on the floor to contribute, last game, Black wasn't scoring pretty well but the Bolts still manage to win.

This team is very unpredictable compared to Ginebra that we already know who would produce the offense.

Meralco is winning this series. LOL

I believe this will be a long series, Ginebra has to even the series, that's their biggest chance to come back and make it to game 7. Coach Tim Cone is the best coach in the PBA, so I'm sure he will find a way to beat the Meralco Boltz.

I'm curious what would be the betting odds in game 4, I hope Ginebra will only be -1.5 favorite again, they are good at that number.

Since we are talking of a good start, I guess I would bet on Ginebra in the first half because that's where they are good at. In the last 2 games, they all win the first half. So this will be my strategy, bet on the Ginebra to win in the 1st half, if they loss, bet on them live getting the ML.

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April 12, 2022, 01:01:19 PM
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Since we are talking of a good start, I guess I would bet on Ginebra in the first half because that's where they are good at. In the last 2 games, they all win the first half. So this will be my strategy, bet on the Ginebra to win in the 1st half, if they loss, bet on them live getting the ML.
This could be more significant to them, they always have the lead but unfortunately they always fell short and lose the game.
I won't risk my bet for Ginebra in the first half since the game might be different now especially with Meralco having the lead I'm pretty sure they have more confidence now. I'll just place my bet and switch to Meralco right now to win game 4.
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April 12, 2022, 01:41:52 PM
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If Meralco will have a chance to take a big lead early in Game 4, expect they can maintain it and that's what Ginebra should have to work out. Meralco is doing great making a rally even behind big points, how much more if they are in the big lead.

This is what Ginebra should not allow, they'll be in trouble once the Meralco will take the lead early as they are good at maintaining the lead. It looks like the Meralco have already matured and they have the support from every guy on the floor to contribute, last game, Black wasn't scoring pretty well but the Bolts still manage to win.

This team is very unpredictable compared to Ginebra that we already know who would produce the offense.

Meralco is winning this series. LOL

I believe this will be a long series, Ginebra has to even the series, that's their biggest chance to come back and make it to game 7. Coach Tim Cone is the best coach in the PBA, so I'm sure he will find a way to beat the Meralco Boltz.

I'm curious what would be the betting odds in game 4, I hope Ginebra will only be -1.5 favorite again, they are good at that number.
If Ginebra will not win tomorrow in Game 4, Meralco will win this series for sure.
Meralco are now hungry to win after getting defeated by Ginebra thrice in PBA Finals. Tim Cone sure is one of the best coaches in PBA but not the best for me no offense though but only my opinion Smiley.

Lets also take note that Ginebra is playing without Pringle and Japeth compare to Meralco that has a complete roster. We know how injuries affect the outcomes of the series in playoffs right. I predicted Ginebra in 6-7 but will not surprised if Meralco will win this one.

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April 12, 2022, 04:50:28 PM
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Ginebra has the biggest chance of winning in game 3 because they have a huge crowd, I'm not sure in game 4 if they can even the series, maybe they just don't need a crowd to be on their side  but the refs as well, you know what I'm saying.  Grin

As always, they can rely on the refs if the management wants this series to extend to game 7.

Also, Meralco could take the lead for 3-1 standing, but it does not mean the series could end soon because we all know that Ginebra is #NSD team, so they'll come back, of course with the help of the refs and tie the series. That's just some crazy scenario I'm seeing from this series.

That's a good drama that these two teams can bring. It can trap those bettors who love chasing Ginebra. There are some who use martingale

and if Meralco will take 3-1 it will be burn that strategy. Maybe yes or because of the fans, Ginebra will be more eager to bounce back and tie the

series, we never know till we witness how both teams will come up during the game. For both sides, it will be a very important game to win

both head coaches will be tested again.
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April 12, 2022, 09:27:00 PM
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Ginebra has the biggest chance of winning in game 3 because they have a huge crowd, I'm not sure in game 4 if they can even the series, maybe they just don't need a crowd to be on their side  but the refs as well, you know what I'm saying.  Grin

As always, they can rely on the refs if the management wants this series to extend to game 7.

Also, Meralco could take the lead for 3-1 standing, but it does not mean the series could end soon because we all know that Ginebra is #NSD team, so they'll come back, of course with the help of the refs and tie the series. That's just some crazy scenario I'm seeing from this series.

That's a good drama that these two teams can bring. It can trap those bettors who love chasing Ginebra. There are some who use martingale

and if Meralco will take 3-1 it will be burn that strategy. Maybe yes or because of the fans, Ginebra will be more eager to bounce back and tie the

series, we never know till we witness how both teams will come up during the game. For both sides, it will be a very important game to win

both head coaches will be tested again.
Game 4 is a crucial game for Ginebra, they should not allow Meralco to take the big lead and never rely to their NSD mantra because it will be hard for them. Well, of referees are really with them we can see a game 7 here but I still believe on the integrity of the referees and will have a good calls which is fair for both teams. Ginebra should start to hassle now and do their best to have a good lead early on the game. If 3-1 happens in favor to Meralco, this could be the end for Ginebra.

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April 12, 2022, 09:52:17 PM
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Since we are talking of a good start, I guess I would bet on Ginebra in the first half because that's where they are good at. In the last 2 games, they all win the first half. So this will be my strategy, bet on the Ginebra to win in the 1st half, if they loss, bet on them live getting the ML.

This would be a very nice strategy but on my favorite bookies, these options/markets are not shown or not offered unlike in the NBA. How about the other bookies, are they offered?

Will do live betting for today and see if the trend continues. If Ginebra would win this game tonight then the chances of a game 7 is very high and also, there are reports that Japeth will be back so that will be a big help for them.

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April 12, 2022, 11:57:38 PM
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Since we are talking of a good start, I guess I would bet on Ginebra in the first half because that's where they are good at. In the last 2 games, they all win the first half. So this will be my strategy, bet on the Ginebra to win in the 1st half, if they loss, bet on them live getting the ML.

This would be a very nice strategy but on my favorite bookies, these options/markets are not shown or not offered unlike in the NBA. How about the other bookies, are they offered?

Will do live betting for today and see if the trend continues. If Ginebra would win this game tonight then the chances of a game 7 is very high and also, there are reports that Japeth will be back so that will be a big help for them.

They need Japeth on this upcoming Game 4. Being behind 3-1 if ever they will lose again is a difficult task to bounce back even if that is possible. I can't trust handicap now as they always choked their big lead. Live betting is a good option but I think placing a Moneyline with Ginebra is a good choice too since there's no choice for them but to win this game.

2-2 is more likely to happen than Meralco 3-1.

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April 13, 2022, 03:49:09 AM
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Since we are talking of a good start, I guess I would bet on Ginebra in the first half because that's where they are good at. In the last 2 games, they all win the first half. So this will be my strategy, bet on the Ginebra to win in the 1st half, if they loss, bet on them live getting the ML.

This would be a very nice strategy but on my favorite bookies, these options/markets are not shown or not offered unlike in the NBA. How about the other bookies, are they offered?

Will do live betting for today and see if the trend continues. If Ginebra would win this game tonight then the chances of a game 7 is very high and also, there are reports that Japeth will be back so that will be a big help for them.

They need Japeth on this upcoming Game 4. Being behind 3-1 if ever they will lose again is a difficult task to bounce back even if that is possible. I can't trust handicap now as they always choked their big lead. Live betting is a good option but I think placing a Moneyline with Ginebra is a good choice too since there's no choice for them but to win this game.

2-2 is more likely to happen than Meralco 3-1.

I don't think they'll have Japeth in the Finals, there's no fresh news that says Japeth will be coming back, as previously reported, Japeth is already out in the PBA Finals. If they will force Japeth to play, that might give them a problem in the future if Japeth will aggravate the injury.

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April 13, 2022, 05:28:11 AM
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They need Japeth on this upcoming Game 4.

Definitely, they need Japeth in this upcoming game, having Japeth in the game gives Genebra more options to score.

Being behind 3-1 if ever they will lose again is a difficult task to bounce back even if that is possible. I can't trust handicap now as they always choked their big lead. Live betting is a good option but I think placing a Moneyline with Ginebra is a good choice too since there's no choice for them but to win this game.

2-2 is more likely to happen than Meralco 3-1.

Well, 3-1 for Meralco is more likely to happen if the same thing will happen on the Genebra's outside shooting.  Imagine, in their last game, only 4 out of 32 three-point attempts connected.  I bet, having Japeth around won't help if Genebra's three-point shooting will perform this poorly again.

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April 13, 2022, 06:55:23 AM
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I don't think they'll have Japeth in the Finals, there's no fresh news that says Japeth will be coming back, as previously reported, Japeth is already out in the PBA Finals. If they will force Japeth to play, that might give them a problem in the future if Japeth will aggravate the injury.

They need to work it harder and not to let Meralco win and have a comfortable lead from this series, even without Japeth, they

managed to win last game 2 and if they will adjust and were more aggressive, they can force to tie this series, the NSD troops were always

have a strong influenced when Ginebra is on this kind of situation, they will do everything to avoid losing this important game.
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April 13, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
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I don't think they'll have Japeth in the Finals, there's no fresh news that says Japeth will be coming back, as previously reported, Japeth is already out in the PBA Finals. If they will force Japeth to play, that might give them a problem in the future if Japeth will aggravate the injury.

They need to work it harder and not to let Meralco win and have a comfortable lead from this series, even without Japeth, they

managed to win last game 2 and if they will adjust and were more aggressive, they can force to tie this series, the NSD troops were always

have a strong influenced when Ginebra is on this kind of situation, they will do everything to avoid losing this important game.

Bolts 4 points in the last almost 9 minutes (from 41:37 to 45:51, with halftime in between) , yet another fix is on to get the maximum amount of matches guaranteed. PBA at its bet, as usual.
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April 13, 2022, 12:11:43 PM
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I don't think they'll have Japeth in the Finals, there's no fresh news that says Japeth will be coming back, as previously reported, Japeth is already out in the PBA Finals. If they will force Japeth to play, that might give them a problem in the future if Japeth will aggravate the injury.

They need to work it harder and not to let Meralco win and have a comfortable lead from this series, even without Japeth, they

managed to win last game 2 and if they will adjust and were more aggressive, they can force to tie this series, the NSD troops were always

have a strong influenced when Ginebra is on this kind of situation, they will do everything to avoid losing this important game.

Bolts 4 points in the last almost 9 minutes (from 41:37 to 45:51, with halftime in between) , yet another fix is on to get the maximum amount of matches guaranteed. PBA at its bet, as usual.

Ginebra is winning the game already, I did not finish watching the game as I believe they'll win and will even the series. If there's a fix, then that should favor the Ginebra Kings, Japeth played actually but he only played with limited minutes, congratulations to the Ginebra Kings in advance, 2-2 now.

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