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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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July 08, 2022, 03:34:19 PM
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I think Manchester United just need to wait a little longer to get De Jong from Barcelona because the issue of delaying his salary has not been resolved until now. I don't think all the efforts of Manchester United will be in vain for De Jong, but they have to wait for Barcelona to sort things out with De Jong's team first. Meanwhile, Barcelona hopes that De Jong can still be kept at Camp Nou, but it may be difficult to turn down an offer that meets expectations.

Negotiations will still take place between Barcelona's management and De Jong over the issue of his unpaid salary. But now Chelsea are also starting to look at this player and are reportedly ready to hijack him from Manchester United. But I think Manchester United are more likely to sign De Jong than Chelsea.
If rumors are to be believed, Dembele is willing to stay at Barcelona and he will agree to a pay cut, if this is true, then we can assume that they may be able to negotiate with de Jong too. Perhaps in the negotiations there is an emphasis on the fact that the club has big plans, now we will invite Lewandowski and we will be champions. Who knows, we'll see, but it seems to me that Barça will be able to keep him in the team. They might even be able to buy Lewandowski, although I don't understand why it's so important for them to see him in their squad.

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July 08, 2022, 03:52:23 PM
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I think Manchester United just need to wait a little longer to get De Jong from Barcelona because the issue of delaying his salary has not been resolved until now. I don't think all the efforts of Manchester United will be in vain for De Jong, but they have to wait for Barcelona to sort things out with De Jong's team first. Meanwhile, Barcelona hopes that De Jong can still be kept at Camp Nou, but it may be difficult to turn down an offer that meets expectations.

Negotiations will still take place between Barcelona's management and De Jong over the issue of his unpaid salary. But now Chelsea are also starting to look at this player and are reportedly ready to hijack him from Manchester United. But I think Manchester United are more likely to sign De Jong than Chelsea.
If rumors are to be believed, Dembele is willing to stay at Barcelona and he will agree to a pay cut, if this is true, then we can assume that they may be able to negotiate with de Jong too. Perhaps in the negotiations there is an emphasis on the fact that the club has big plans, now we will invite Lewandowski and we will be champions. Who knows, we'll see, but it seems to me that Barça will be able to keep him in the team. They might even be able to buy Lewandowski, although I don't understand why it's so important for them to see him in their squad.
Anything is still possible and now it's just a matter of time because the transfer window hasn't closed yet and therefore anything is possible. I personally am not so sure that De Jong will stay at Barcelona because at the moment Barcelona seems to have a lot of problems, none other than the problems that continue to arise because of unhealthy finances. If there is a good offer then of course they will be better off leaving because they are also not Barcelona's golden child, even my Messi who is an icon can still leave.

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July 08, 2022, 04:08:33 PM
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Anything is still possible and now it's just a matter of time because the transfer window hasn't closed yet and therefore anything is possible. I personally am not so sure that De Jong will stay at Barcelona because at the moment Barcelona seems to have a lot of problems, none other than the problems that continue to arise because of unhealthy finances. If there is a good offer then of course they will be better off leaving because they are also not Barcelona's golden child, even my Messi who is an icon can still leave.
It made more sense to me when Barcelona made the decision to keep de Jong with them. Because if they let go of this player will they get the same substitute? they will lose a lot of players because until now the players they are looking for have not reached an agreement. I believe that they want the squad they dream of, but under these circumstances will it all come true?

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July 08, 2022, 04:10:23 PM
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Anything is still possible and now it's just a matter of time because the transfer window hasn't closed yet and therefore anything is possible. I personally am not so sure that De Jong will stay at Barcelona because at the moment Barcelona seems to have a lot of problems, none other than the problems that continue to arise because of unhealthy finances. If there is a good offer then of course they will be better off leaving because they are also not Barcelona's golden child, even my Messi who is an icon can still leave.

Both clubs - United and Barcelona have made their stand clear to the player. United wants him and Barcelona can let De Jong stay only if he takes cut in his wages which De Jong is unwilling to take at the moment. So its all on player now, if he wants to stay at Barcelona which is one thing that he wants then he have to take the cut which he doesn't wants. Bit of complex situation out there so its kinda hanging in the grey area at the moment.

I find De Jong leaving to be the best option as it will improve the club situations but not sure if player will be happy then.
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July 08, 2022, 04:48:37 PM
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@trendcoin Bayern has rejected three offers from Barcelona so far, and @hahay is right it is Lewandowski desire to leave that is encouraging them to make a bid again. Also I’m really surprised player’s yet want to join them as they’re constantly deferring player’s wages, and that’s why I wonder how they’ll be able to pay for his wages.
Barcelona has too much to offer right now which is taking this longer than expected.
I think it will be quite complicated if they keep bidding and bidding, especially since Bayern are adamant that they will sell Lewandowski at the right price, so that no matter how much Barcelona bid, it will be in vain in my opinion because Bayern's clause has not changed until now. .

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July 08, 2022, 05:10:22 PM
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I think Manchester United just need to wait a little longer to get De Jong from Barcelona because the issue of delaying his salary has not been resolved until now. I don't think all the efforts of Manchester United will be in vain for De Jong, but they have to wait for Barcelona to sort things out with De Jong's team first. Meanwhile, Barcelona hopes that De Jong can still be kept at Camp Nou, but it may be difficult to turn down an offer that meets expectations.

Negotiations will still take place between Barcelona's management and De Jong over the issue of his unpaid salary. But now Chelsea are also starting to look at this player and are reportedly ready to hijack him from Manchester United. But I think Manchester United are more likely to sign De Jong than Chelsea.
If rumors are to be believed, Dembele is willing to stay at Barcelona and he will agree to a pay cut, if this is true, then we can assume that they may be able to negotiate with de Jong too. Perhaps in the negotiations there is an emphasis on the fact that the club has big plans, now we will invite Lewandowski and we will be champions. Who knows, we'll see, but it seems to me that Barça will be able to keep him in the team. They might even be able to buy Lewandowski, although I don't understand why it's so important for them to see him in their squad.
I heard this news but actually it's still uncertain about whether he will stay or not but indeed if he is ready to extend his contract then indeed he must be willing to have his salary cut.
But it would be a big blow for Chelsea if Dembele did press for a contract extension with Barcelona as they look intent on bringing this player to the Stampord Bridge.

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July 08, 2022, 05:17:37 PM
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Anything is still possible and now it's just a matter of time because the transfer window hasn't closed yet and therefore anything is possible. I personally am not so sure that De Jong will stay at Barcelona because at the moment Barcelona seems to have a lot of problems, none other than the problems that continue to arise because of unhealthy finances. If there is a good offer then of course they will be better off leaving because they are also not Barcelona's golden child, even my Messi who is an icon can still leave.

Both clubs - United and Barcelona have made their stand clear to the player. United wants him and Barcelona can let De Jong stay only if he takes cut in his wages which De Jong is unwilling to take at the moment. So its all on player now, if he wants to stay at Barcelona which is one thing that he wants then he have to take the cut which he doesn't wants. Bit of complex situation out there so its kinda hanging in the grey area at the moment.

I find De Jong leaving to be the best option as it will improve the club situations but not sure if player will be happy then.

You all know the relationship between De Jong and Erik Hag at Ajax.
They must have been in close contact not looking at the delay in the switch.
Who knows what they have discussed, De Jong will likely be a key to the squad if he comes.
Barcelona owing part of he's salary right .

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Anything is still possible and now it's just a matter of time because the transfer window hasn't closed yet and therefore anything is possible. I personally am not so sure that De Jong will stay at Barcelona because at the moment Barcelona seems to have a lot of problems, none other than the problems that continue to arise because of unhealthy finances. If there is a good offer then of course they will be better off leaving because they are also not Barcelona's golden child, even my Messi who is an icon can still leave.
It made more sense to me when Barcelona made the decision to keep de Jong with them. Because if they let go of this player will they get the same substitute? they will lose a lot of players because until now the players they are looking for have not reached an agreement. I believe that they want the squad they dream of, but under these circumstances will it all come true?
Few things still in progress about De Jong because Barcelona is having some financial issues, and they want to settle things for their priority and right now Chelsea is a new front-runner for this exciting player as I read Barcelona added some new things in contract which are acceptable for Chelsea instead of Manchester United they want to give them some debit and with cash amount as well which is going to give them some relief with this now Manchester United's reply is not coming, but Chelsea management is thinking about this because they want De Jong in their squad for next season and for me, it's going to happen this in next few days because with new owners Chelsea is in stable position.

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If rumors are to be believed, Dembele is willing to stay at Barcelona and he will agree to a pay cut, if this is true, then we can assume that they may be able to negotiate with de Jong too. Perhaps in the negotiations there is an emphasis on the fact that the club has big plans, now we will invite Lewandowski and we will be champions. Who knows, we'll see, but it seems to me that Barça will be able to keep him in the team. They might even be able to buy Lewandowski, although I don't understand why it's so important for them to see him in their squad.
Trough financial problem faced by Barcelona not have option for Dembele cut off his salary if want keep stay with Barcelona, still not announcement from Dembele will agree or not about cut off his salary. I little sure will reach agreement between Dembele and Barcelona agreement cut off his salary, but not reach agreement with Frankie de Jong he want getting cut off his salary. Better leave Barcelona than have losing more than 30% with salary cut off offering by Barcelona. I think have chance with Barcelona losing several senior player next season if try adopt with salary cut off.

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in fact, Barcelona has confirmed that De Jong is not selling, to be honest, it looks like De Jong transfer is like a tangled thread that is difficult to explain because on the one hand it is actually Barcelona must sell players to be able to register other players.

True, I've see the news where Joan Laporta has made it clear that they won't be sell frenkie de Jong. And now a new issue arises with the presence of Chelsea as a new bidder for the 25-year-old midfielder. I always find news about de jong every day, on the other hand barcelona insist they don't sell him but media update daily about de jong, this makes public and i wonder, maybe this is a strategy to increase the price of this player ?

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Both clubs - United and Barcelona have made their stand clear to the player. United wants him and Barcelona can let De Jong stay only if he takes cut in his wages which De Jong is unwilling to take at the moment. So its all on player now, if he wants to stay at Barcelona which is one thing that he wants then he have to take the cut which he doesn't wants. Bit of complex situation out there so its kinda hanging in the grey area at the moment.

I find De Jong leaving to be the best option as it will improve the club situations but not sure if player will be happy then.
pros and cons are scattered, many also say that if de jong really loves barca then he must help barca by going to MU and barca getting money from his transfer. with de jong's ability, I'm sure he will be able to adapt quickly at United. Currently, Barca's financial situation is uncertain, so staying at Barca in my opinion is not a wise decision either.

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Both clubs - United and Barcelona have made their stand clear to the player. United wants him and Barcelona can let De Jong stay only if he takes cut in his wages which De Jong is unwilling to take at the moment. So its all on player now, if he wants to stay at Barcelona which is one thing that he wants then he have to take the cut which he doesn't wants. Bit of complex situation out there so its kinda hanging in the grey area at the moment.

I find De Jong leaving to be the best option as it will improve the club situations but not sure if player will be happy then.
Although the final decision lies with De Jong, but I think he should look for another club if he wants to get a bigger salary. Barcelona cannot afford to pay dearly for their players due to their financial condition, and De Jong is rumored to have considered a pay cut but may not this season again. An agreement must be reached soon because otherwise Chelsea might try to get close to De Jong as well. I just think Manchester United have to move fast for De Jong, so it shouldn't take much time.


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July 08, 2022, 07:41:26 PM
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It made more sense to me when Barcelona made the decision to keep de Jong with them. Because if they let go of this player will they get the same substitute?

The latest information I saw, they are preparing to negotiate with Wolverhampton midfielder, Rúben Neves, although we know the qualities of the two are clearly different, and it is also rumor that Barcelona are interested in bring Bernardo Silva, would be a better fit to replace de Jong, although I doubt Barcelona can get him from Manchester City. Xavi has worked hard this season, he was required to make changes in less favorable circumstances

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July 08, 2022, 08:54:12 PM
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Both clubs - United and Barcelona have made their stand clear to the player. United wants him and Barcelona can let De Jong stay only if he takes cut in his wages which De Jong is unwilling to take at the moment. So its all on player now, if he wants to stay at Barcelona which is one thing that he wants then he have to take the cut which he doesn't wants. Bit of complex situation out there so its kinda hanging in the grey area at the moment.

I find De Jong leaving to be the best option as it will improve the club situations but not sure if player will be happy then.
Although the final decision lies with De Jong, but I think he should look for another club if he wants to get a bigger salary. Barcelona cannot afford to pay dearly for their players due to their financial condition, and De Jong is rumored to have considered a pay cut but may not this season again. An agreement must be reached soon because otherwise Chelsea might try to get close to De Jong as well. I just think Manchester United have to move fast for De Jong, so it shouldn't take much time.

So, the situation is De Jong does not want to leave Barcelona. And he also does not want to take a pay cut. But Barcelona can only afford him if he does take a pay cut. You know, there are a lot of other clubs which are willing to give him a lot more money if he does decide to move.

So, this is a complex situation and I think it is better if the player just moves. Obviously, it is not going to be helpful for Barcelona. However, if this player stays, I do not believe he will be able to produce his 100% because he will always be thinking about his salary.

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Although the final decision lies with De Jong, but I think he should look for another club if he wants to get a bigger salary. Barcelona cannot afford to pay dearly for their players due to their financial condition, and De Jong is rumored to have considered a pay cut but may not this season again. An agreement must be reached soon because otherwise Chelsea might try to get close to De Jong as well. I just think Manchester United have to move fast for De Jong, so it shouldn't take much time.


He will leave after Barcelona have paid off his salary arrears. De Jong actually wants to stay with Barcelona but seeing the financial crisis experienced by Barcelona, ​​I think he will choose to leave in this transfer window. Manchester United has moved quickly in the hunt for De Jong because they have sent proposals to Barcelona twice but their offer has been rejected by Barcelona.

If De Jong officially leaves in this transfer window I think he is more interested in joining Manchester United than Chelsea because I think he will reunion return Erik at Manchester United. But if de Jong wants to play in the Champions League next season I think he will choose Chelsea.

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Anything is still possible and now it's just a matter of time because the transfer window hasn't closed yet and therefore anything is possible. I personally am not so sure that De Jong will stay at Barcelona because at the moment Barcelona seems to have a lot of problems, none other than the problems that continue to arise because of unhealthy finances. If there is a good offer then of course they will be better off leaving because they are also not Barcelona's golden child, even my Messi who is an icon can still leave.

Both clubs - United and Barcelona have made their stand clear to the player. United wants him and Barcelona can let De Jong stay only if he takes cut in his wages which De Jong is unwilling to take at the moment. So its all on player now, if he wants to stay at Barcelona which is one thing that he wants then he have to take the cut which he doesn't wants. Bit of complex situation out there so its kinda hanging in the grey area at the moment.

I find De Jong leaving to be the best option as it will improve the club situations but not sure if player will be happy then.
If he is willing to survive, of course he must accept a salary cut, but will he perform optimally if there is a salary cut? I think this is a complex situation on the other hand maybe De Jong really likes Barcelona so he wants to stay but in other words it is better to find another club and that is indeed the best choice, currently Barcelona are still waiting for another decision between Dembele and Rapinha even when Barcelona has not yet decided on a second contract, perhaps because of financial problems, so they think more about moving quickly in their transfers.

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July 08, 2022, 09:21:11 PM
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You all know the relationship between De Jong and Erik Hag at Ajax.
They must have been in close contact not looking at the delay in the switch.
Who knows what they have discussed, De Jong will likely be a key to the squad if he comes.
Barcelona owing part of he's salary right .
I believe that if they keep that relationship going, then it would make sense, but it is also a lot of money. I mean Barcelona certainly needs that money and if they can sell him then they could do a lot more, it would open up so much more for them. Every year (until the debt is paid) they will need to sell some players to make some cap for themselves and then they could do whatever they want after that, not unlimited of course but better.

This is why I understand why they want to get rid of him. But United shouldn't just take him because Erik wanted him, they should negotiate on the price a lot more down, De Jong looks like max 50 million type of player to me.
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July 08, 2022, 09:23:28 PM
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Ronaldo's desire to play in the Champions is all that's matters to him now. I currently doubt talks about Ronaldo having personal and family issues which I consider not true.
Good players have come and gone Ronaldo won't be first, Eric Cantona was one of Manchester United biggest players when they lost him to Ban.
So Manchester United fans should wish him Good luck ( Not for him to play in the premier league, NOT CHELSEA!!  ) and expect a season without Ronaldo+ Eric Ten Hag union.
Ronaldo not attending training under the pretense of settling family matters is an old trick - he used it before when he left Juventus. But I think this is normal, given the fact that he does not link his future with United, it is much more correct than, for example, the behavior of Lewandowski.
Today on Twitter I saw a cut of episodes (from Juventus) where Ronaldo acted as an assistant and partners ruined great moments - what a pain!  Cry Now I want him even more to get into a decent club where he could prove himself being surrounded by the same qualified masters.

If Ronaldo has already decided that he is going to move from Manchester United and is looking to play for other clubs, I believe he is looking for a team that is going to play in the Champions League. Otherwise moving out from Manchester United is not going to make any sense. If he is going to Chelsea, it is going to be a very good transfer for him. Chelsea also needs a really good Striker because they did not score as much as they should have in the last season. And Chelsea will also be able to play well in the Champions League and the performance of Chelsea is also going to upgrade because of Cristiano Ronaldo if this deal actually ends up happening.


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Ousmane Dembele is close to sign an agreement with Barcelona, Barça literally going to have Fati, Ferran, Dembele and Raphinha as wing options with Lewandowski, Auba and Depay as strikers, wow that's gonna be a pretty good attacking squad, but I doubt if Rafinha will be joining if eventually Dembele sign a new contract, but Xavi needs to do something about the defence, if the attack is good and the defence is nothing to write home about, it does not worth it

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Ousmane Dembele is close to sign an agreement with Barcelona, Barça literally going to have Fati, Ferran, Dembele and Raphinha as wing options with Lewandowski, Auba and Depay as strikers, wow that's gonna be a pretty good attacking squad, but I doubt if Rafinha will be joining if eventually Dembele sign a new contract, but Xavi needs to do something about the defence, if the attack is good and the defence is nothing to write home about, it does not worth it
Their attack was never so badly off. The problem is defense. Think about so many of such forwards makes me think a majority of them are going to get wasted on the bench.

I also wonder why Barcelona keeps stacking such many forwards with probably higher wages than average ones but continue to complain about financial difficulties on the other side.

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