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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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July 09, 2022, 08:04:34 PM
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Dembele may be a good dribbler, a talented player, but he is not successful at Barcelona. He could not adapt to the Barcelona team. Last season he had 21 chances to play in Barcelona, ​​but managed to score only one goal. Since Dembele's understanding with other Barcelona players are not good, it is not surprising that Barcelona decided to sell Dembele. Raphinha will probably perform better than Dembele with the Barcelona team.
The problem is that he is too fragile at Barcelona because indeed it is a bit of a waste even though he is playing quite well but he spends most of his time in the treatment room here, I may quite agree with you when you say he is not very suitable at Barcelona but actually for the fit in terms of the game may still be the same in vision but because he is often injured it makes it quite difficult for him to adapt again and again.
Until now Xavi still believes in him and hopes Dembele can return to their squad even with a pay cut for a new contract.

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July 09, 2022, 09:01:20 PM
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Dembele may be a good dribbler, a talented player, but he is not successful at Barcelona. He could not adapt to the Barcelona team. Last season he had 21 chances to play in Barcelona, ​​but managed to score only one goal. Since Dembele's understanding with other Barcelona players are not good, it is not surprising that Barcelona decided to sell Dembele. Raphinha will probably perform better than Dembele with the Barcelona team.
Ousmane Dembele current status as a free transfer player is because Ousmane Dembele has not given a definite answer about his future with Barcelona after his contract expires. from various sources that I read where barcelona has made an offer to extend a new contract for Ousmane Dembele but on the condition that he must accept a lower salary than before because Barcelona are experiencing a financial crisis. that's why Ousmane has not answered whether he will accept a new contract or he will choose to leave Barcelona.

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July 09, 2022, 09:12:00 PM
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Barcelona should try to keep Dembele in the team. He is a talented player and he can offer a lot to the team. The financial problem which Barcelona is facing right now is obviously really troubling. But I don't understand how they can look for a player who will cost them 50 million. This is because they are not going to be able to pay even the full salary of the players that they currently have. Barcelona don't have a particularly weak squad as of now. And I think it is going to be better if they concentrate on how to keep the players that they have instead of trying to buy a 34 year old player for 50 million. I really hope that Dembele agrees to take a pay cut for Barcelona's sake.
Apart from Ousmane Dembele being prone to injuries, he is a better player than Raphinha statistically. I will pick Ousmane Dembele over Raphinha anytime. Dembele has the ability to dribble through defences, get the ball to the attacker and very good with his finishing with very good pace. I think Raphinha is joining Barcelona will be coming in as a backup option for Dembele. It will be really good having both players in the club.
The difference is, they could get a ton more money for Dembele. So get Raphinha for cheap, and then sell Dembele for a lot of money. Sure that would make their team worse, but not "much" worse whereas they would be able to make a ton of money from it. This is what they need, get players for either free or very cheap, and then sell the players they have for a lot of money, and keep doing this for few years. If they do that, and still end up at least top 3 every year on la liga, then they are going to be fine.

I think top 2 gets insanely more than everyone else so maybe top 2. That way they could remove all the debt, fix their salary issues, and still stay relevant.

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July 09, 2022, 09:15:24 PM
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Barcelona should try to keep Dembele in the team. He is a talented player and he can offer a lot to the team. The financial problem which Barcelona is facing right now is obviously really troubling. But I don't understand how they can look for a player who will cost them 50 million. This is because they are not going to be able to pay even the full salary of the players that they currently have. Barcelona don't have a particularly weak squad as of now. And I think it is going to be better if they concentrate on how to keep the players that they have instead of trying to buy a 34 year old player for 50 million. I really hope that Dembele agrees to take a pay cut for Barcelona's sake.
Apart from Ousmane Dembele being prone to injuries, he is a better player than Raphinha statistically. I will pick Ousmane Dembele over Raphinha anytime. Dembele has the ability to dribble through defences, get the ball to the attacker and very good with his finishing with very good pace. I think Raphinha is joining Barcelona will be coming in as a backup option for Dembele. It will be really good having both players in the club.
In fact, it would be a jersey battle for the two of them and Barcelona could very well benefit from it.  After all, Dembele and Raphinha will be very eager and want to start the game in the starting 11 for Barcelona.  No matter who is in the reserve, he will give his all when he enters the game.

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July 09, 2022, 09:24:28 PM
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Dembele may be a good dribbler, a talented player, but he is not successful at Barcelona. He could not adapt to the Barcelona team. Last season he had 21 chances to play in Barcelona, ​​but managed to score only one goal. Since Dembele's understanding with other Barcelona players are not good, it is not surprising that Barcelona decided to sell Dembele. Raphinha will probably perform better than Dembele with the Barcelona team.
The latest news is that Barcelona finally is going to renew Dembele's contract. Dembele may be going to sign his renewla contract in Barcelona 2-years later. They have been in the final stages of negotiations. Well, although his performance was not as optimal, Barcelona still wants to hold him. We can see how he will utilize this chance to lay optimally in Barcelona, much better than the previous season. Can he?
Source: https://barcauniversal.com/ousmane-dembele-set-to-sign-two-year-renewal-with-barcelona-report/


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July 09, 2022, 09:39:25 PM
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Selling De Jong can solve lot of problems for Barcelona but seems like United are still negotiating the add-ons structure. I think it will be either Dembele or Raphinha. Raphinha usually plays as right winger and Dembele too and Barca cannot make them sit on bench. One has to go at one point- maybe now or in next window. Barca are also progressing in contract extension talks with Demebele so I am not sure where its gonna end but keeping both seems highly doubtful to me.
There were good hopes for this signing from Manchester United but as Barcelona added few more things in contract now most chances this transfer is not going to complete because Manchester United management is feeling not good about these things which are creating problem.

As we all know Barcelona is having some serious financial trouble, so they are asking them for having some debit as De Jong salary arrears but Manchester United management is not allowing these things which are now problem for them hopefully we will have some better news about this all in coming days because now time is running out and Barcelona is also having few options for themselves in this all case.
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July 09, 2022, 09:46:37 PM
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The latest news is that Barcelona finally is going to renew Dembele's contract. Dembele may be going to sign his renewla contract in Barcelona 2-years later. They have been in the final stages of negotiations.
So, finally Barcelona realizes that they still need Dembele. I'm not surprised if Barcelona is eager to extend his contract because Barcelona has no experienced and talented right-winger now. Although I heard the news that Barcelona wants to sign Raphinha, Barcelona is still competing with Chelsea. If they failed to sign Raphinha, they will have no good right-winger next season. So, it is a good idea to have a second plan that renewal the contract of Dembele.


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Ousmane Dembele is close to sign an agreement with Barcelona, Barça literally going to have Fati, Ferran, Dembele and Raphinha as wing options with Lewandowski, Auba and Depay as strikers, wow that's gonna be a pretty good attacking squad, but I doubt if Rafinha will be joining if eventually Dembele sign a new contract, but Xavi needs to do something about the defence, if the attack is good and the defence is nothing to write home about, it does not worth it

I think their defence is all right, don't you? It may not be as strong as their attacking line, let's just say out of proportion, but it's not weak nonetheless. The main thing is for the Lewandowski deal to happen and then it will be the perfect squad for Barcelona, I think what happens next will depend on Xavi and his tactics

in my opinion barcelona's attack is very bad, they couldn't score many goals constantly and that's what hurt them a lot, of course their defense was bad but if they had a very strong attack then they could easily win many games in a good way easy. I read that PSG are also interested in Robert Lewandowski... I hope barcelona hurry up and make a better offer if they want to have Robert Lewandowski in barcelona because we all know that PSG is a team that has so much money that it looks like has unlimited money and if PSG want Robert Lewandowski they can easily have

The only question is that they will have nowhere to put Robert if they lure him in with money. There are too many good players at PSG and I think all the positions are already taken and Robert won't be willing to sit on the bench. I also don't see anything wrong with Barcelona's attack last season, well, maybe it's just me, I don't know

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July 09, 2022, 10:54:25 PM
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The latest news is that Barcelona finally is going to renew Dembele's contract. Dembele may be going to sign his renewla contract in Barcelona 2-years later. They have been in the final stages of negotiations.
So, finally Barcelona realizes that they still need Dembele. I'm not surprised if Barcelona is eager to extend his contract because Barcelona has no experienced and talented right-winger now. Although I heard the news that Barcelona wants to sign Raphinha, Barcelona is still competing with Chelsea. If they failed to sign Raphinha, they will have no good right-winger next season. So, it is a good idea to have a second plan that renewal the contract of Dembele.



There is a possibility that Barcelona failed to get Raphinha, because Chelsea made a bigger offer to Leeds. Although Raphinha prefers Barcelona
to Chelsea, it is impossible for Leeds to sell Raphinha below the price offered by Chelsea. And it seems with Barcelona's financial condition that is
not good, it is very difficult for Barcelona to compete on price with Chelsea. In the end, extending Dembele's contract is the best option for now
that Barcelona can do, especially since Xavi became Barcelona coach, Xavi managed to make Dembele put out his best performance. So releasing
Dembele to another club for free would be detrimental to Barcelona in my opinion, especially since Barcelona brought  in Dembele from Dortmund
at an expensive price. So in the near future it is likely that Barcelona will officially announce the extension of Dembele's contract.

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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now. As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.

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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now  As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.
it would be great if could get both. while for Dembele whose contract officially ended on June 30 yesterday. and it looks like the contract will be extended. because each team wants to keep Dembele. And now it seems Dembele has officially extended his contract again. Even Dembele agrees with the issue of his salary adjustment. I myself see that Dembele is still very much needed by Barcelona.

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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now  As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.
Alemany prefer to sign a contract for rapinha rather than dembele. The problem is if xavi is prefer dembele over rapinha. I thought that if this will become a very difficult decision to be taken. As far as i know that if chelsea was also aiming for the dambele to join in the blues.
The very difficult decision for both xavi and alemany. if both were still being so harsh with their own decision im sure that dembele will be going to the chelsea.

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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now  As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.
Alemany prefer to sign a contract for rapinha rather than dembele. The problem is if xavi is prefer dembele over rapinha. I thought that if this will become a very difficult decision to be taken. As far as i know that if chelsea was also aiming for the dambele to join in the blues.
The very difficult decision for both xavi and alemany. if both were still being so harsh with their own decision im sure that dembele will be going to the chelsea.
Barcelona's situation is difficult in this transfer window because it would be better for Barcelona to prioritize overcoming their financial problems, at least by starting to pay off debt because that is the most important thing. At this moment there are also many great players who want to play for Barcelona, but because of the situation and the conditions are not good I think Barcelona should start to solve the problem first and not continue to buy players at high prices. Barcelona might be able to buy players but Barcelona might start talking about salaries with old players who might get a pay cut, cases like this won't make the team any better.

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July 10, 2022, 03:51:39 AM
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Dembele may be a good dribbler, a talented player, but he is not successful at Barcelona. He could not adapt to the Barcelona team. Last season he had 21 chances to play in Barcelona, ​​but managed to score only one goal. Since Dembele's understanding with other Barcelona players are not good, it is not surprising that Barcelona decided to sell Dembele. Raphinha will probably perform better than Dembele with the Barcelona team.
Ousmane Dembele current status as a free transfer player is because Ousmane Dembele has not given a definite answer about his future with Barcelona after his contract expires. from various sources that I read where barcelona has made an offer to extend a new contract for Ousmane Dembele but on the condition that he must accept a lower salary than before because Barcelona are experiencing a financial crisis. that's why Ousmane has not answered whether he will accept a new contract or he will choose to leave Barcelona.

Many players will not accept a new offer that is lower than the previous offer. Only legendary players in teams such as Maldini, Chiellini, Totti act brave enough to sacrifice themselves. I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

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July 10, 2022, 07:10:42 AM
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It's more acceptable because if I compare Rafinha and Dembele, I also prefer Rafinha to fill the void. Especially now that Rafinha is one of the players that many other clubs are looking for, as you said, it means that Rafinha has the ability to become a special attraction for clubs that are interested in him. But back again will Barcelona move as many want or vice versa.
By any mean, Barcelona successfully to convince Dembele to stay. It is big surprise as Dembele revealed he want to leave and Barcelona did not make any enough good offer for him. In the end, they have a deal and Dembele will not move to anywhere.

If you compare between Dembele and Rafinha. Dembele is better as he has a few seasons in Barcelona so he has enough time there. In the past season, he has a first good season in Barcelona.
I have just read some news about this and the reports are true that Dembele is ready to sign a new contract with Barcelona and that he will be at Barcelona until 2025.
Don't know what their current salary agreement is but when the agreement was started there it was reported that Dembele had to be willing to take a pay cut if he wanted to return to Barcelona's uniform.

In terms of performance for the last few seasons, it is clear that Raphinha has more good things considering that for the last few seasons at Barcelona Dembele has not been able to play well.

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July 10, 2022, 07:31:23 AM
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I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

I would be happy if Dembele was not in Barcelona. He did not play well in the Barcelona team. Lots of his wages. I think it is a waste of money to keep Dembele in the team for Barcelona now. Because Barcelona is in financial crisis now. Now they should not waste money by keeping more players in the squad than they need. On the other hand, Barcelona will be able to buy Lewandowski by using the money from selling Dembele and De Jong.

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July 10, 2022, 10:39:38 AM
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I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

I would be happy if Dembele was not in Barcelona. He did not play well in the Barcelona team. Lots of his wages. I think it is a waste of money to keep Dembele in the team for Barcelona now. Because Barcelona is in financial crisis now. Now they should not waste money by keeping more players in the squad than they need. On the other hand, Barcelona will be able to buy Lewandowski by using the money from selling Dembele and De Jong.

Yes Barcelona have done it, but it seems too hasty because let Dembele go without a club, they have to be able to wait a bit to get offers from other clubs to bring in income for Barcelona.
This season barcelona released two players without bringing benefits to the club, Alves and Dembele. Both have officially left Barcelona and are now without a club

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July 10, 2022, 12:12:02 PM
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I don't think Dembele would accept any discount. That's why we can see him in another team in the new season.

I would be happy if Dembele was not in Barcelona. He did not play well in the Barcelona team. Lots of his wages. I think it is a waste of money to keep Dembele in the team for Barcelona now. Because Barcelona is in financial crisis now. Now they should not waste money by keeping more players in the squad than they need. On the other hand, Barcelona will be able to buy Lewandowski by using the money from selling Dembele and De Jong.
Barcelona will get nothing if Dembele leave because he is free agent status and indeed the biggest issue from Dembele is injured and disciplinary that's why during last season he only play 21 times but do not forget Dembele is the most top assists in Barcelona with 13 assists i think it proven that he can playing well almost for each matches and the latest rumours is he is willing to cut off his salary for 40% if Barcelona extended his contract so instead of buying new players which is will spend a lot of money i think extended contracts the current players is more wise

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July 10, 2022, 12:33:37 PM
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Even though I believe that it would be better for Barcelona to go for Raphinha it seems like they will try to do their best to bring back Dembele. Negotiations are going on for now  As long as they give what he wants I don't think there will be any problem. He is already willing to sign for the team again. However I think they still could go for Raphinha too at the same time to sign both of them.
I agree that Barcelona have the idea that they will bring in these two players, Rafinha and also Dembele, rather than having to choose one between the two. But my question is, will they be able to pay for these two players if they bring in them? Again and again I was struck by the thought that Barcelona was in trouble.

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July 10, 2022, 12:40:17 PM
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So, finally Barcelona realizes that they still need Dembele. I'm not surprised if Barcelona is eager to extend his contract because Barcelona has no experienced and talented right-winger now. Although I heard the news that Barcelona wants to sign Raphinha, Barcelona is still competing with Chelsea. If they failed to sign Raphinha, they will have no good right-winger next season. So, it is a good idea to have a second plan that renewal the contract of Dembele.

Dembélé agreed to play at Barcelona until the summer of 2024, while accepting a 40% cut in his wages. This is good news for the club, but as far as I remember, initially Dembele's salary requests were much higher, he just ended up in free agent status and did not find better options so Barcelona took advantage of. As I said, this is good for the club, but there is a possibility that Dembele will feel cheated and this will bring discord into intra-team affairs.

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