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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.4%)
Real Madrid - 80 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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May 31, 2021, 04:49:12 PM
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Probably because they believe Raul can be another success like Zidane [...]
Yes ... for me this news was just extremely sad, especially this phrase "I left Real Madrid because the club stopped believing in me". But anyway, Zidane's excuses seem pretty reasonable ... coaching career in the form of a favor to the club for the previous years, spent in Real, imposes some restrictions, not to mention the lack of prospects to build something from scratch (considering that before Zidane came Real Madrid was already a great club).

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May 31, 2021, 04:55:08 PM
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Aguero has joined Barcelona as a free agent, hopefully that would help solve some problems on the frontline, but the real question while ditch Suarez, if you're all going to come back to settle for Aguero ?

Either ways, I'd take Aguero over Brathwaite or Greizmann up front any day.

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1399393268509650947
The real questions are: Could Aguero be as efficient as Suarez used to be? He will be as consistent as Messi or as fluctuant as Griezmann?
I have the feeling that Aguero will be either a top scorer or a big disappointment. He has to prove himself and works hard to be a key player in a team that has many attackers without a constant performance.

I also heard Raul Gonzalez is closer to Real Madrid he has been familiar with young Madrid players since 2018
Hope he will have a better luck than Pirlo or Gattuso...

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May 31, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
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The best option for Real Madrid would be Flick. But he decided to associate his career with the national team. Raul has no work experience, but I think that he will be appointed all the same. Pochetino is unlikely to leave PSG. Conte is too conflicted person and he will not work with Perez. Besides Flick, I would like to see Real Madrid coach Allegri, but he seems to be returning to Juventus.
I agree with you. Raul is too early to train, even though he is a successor to Zidane. I don't want to see Madrid like Juve this season, failing at UCL. Appoint Flick is the best choice, he has a pretty good record.

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DFB-Pokal: 2019–20
DFL-Supercup: 2020
UEFA Champions League: 2019–20
UEFA Super Cup: 2020
FIFA Club World Cup: 2020
Apart from this he has quite a number of individual titles.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Dieter_Flick
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May 31, 2021, 06:51:37 PM
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Since we are already talking about Real Madrid, then I noticed another oddity ... Spain's current squad has no Real players, what the fuck? I don't quite understand what Luis Enrique was guided by when choosing players, but he didn't even take Sergio Ramos ... I have not found information on the composition of the Spanish national team in the past years, but apparently such discrimination of one of the strongest clubs for the first time, (Barcelona fans are ecstatic).

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May 31, 2021, 08:11:37 PM
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I don't know what Real Madrid plan to do. Choices as Conte or Pochettino gives them higher probability to get success. Perhaps the pandemic brings some troubles to Real Madrid and they want to invest budget for player transfer rather than spend it for coach and compensation if they sack a coach.
Both Conte and Pochettino is not an available option for Real Madrid and that is why they were talking about Raul, obviously it is just a fan talk right now and nothing is certain but when all the big names are out right now and Raul is doing fine at young places right now so he is already involved with management and some players and the staff so all in all if they can't get those big names Raul is not a bad name.

I also do not agree with "bad leave" part because if they were not fine with each other he wouldn't be able to come back as a coach so that means management and Raul is over whatever happened as well. I am not saying Raul is definitely the answer all I am saying is that he is not a bad option neither.

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May 31, 2021, 10:22:10 PM
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Aguero has joined Barcelona as a free agent, hopefully that would help solve some problems on the frontline, but the real question while ditch Suarez, if you're all going to come back to settle for Aguero ?

Either ways, I'd take Aguero over Brathwaite or Greizmann up front any day.

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1399393268509650947
The real questions are: Could Aguero be as efficient as Suarez used to be? He will be as consistent as Messi or as fluctuant as Griezmann?
I have the feeling that Aguero will be either a top scorer or a big disappointment. He has to prove himself and works hard to be a key player in a team that has many attackers without a constant performance.

I also heard Raul Gonzalez is closer to Real Madrid he has been familiar with young Madrid players since 2018
Hope he will have a better luck than Pirlo or Gattuso...
I have noticed that all peoplr criticize the deal of an signinv ab old player, perhaps without taking into account the quality that he possesses, so Barcelona is a team of titles and they do not wsnt to build a team for five or six years, but wants to compete with the next season
For me, Aguero's deal is a good deal, because the universe I was and still consider him the most insidious striker I have seen, through his launches and the timing of his request for the ball and moments of his exit .and this intelligence is required for a striker who plays alongside Messi. In Barcelona they do not need a fast striker, because their way of playing is not based on that, but they need a striker who improves positioning, and is accurate in the timing of the request for the ball, they are a team that plays from the depth a lot, and this is what makes the work of the spearhead large and may play from stability.
Age will not be an obstacle for this player, at least in the next two seasons, and you have the best example in Suarez, and likewise Ronaldo, who won the best striker in Calcio, regardless of the contributions of Zlatan in Milan and Cavani at United .
Therefore, the old strikers have become the ones. They offer an addition, perhaps more than the inexperienced, and this is what makes me expect Aguero's brilliance in Barcelona if they employ him well.
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May 31, 2021, 10:41:13 PM
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The best option for Real Madrid would be Flick. But he decided to associate his career with the national team. Raul has no work experience, but I think that he will be appointed all the same. Pochetino is unlikely to leave PSG. Conte is too conflicted person and he will not work with Perez. Besides Flick, I would like to see Real Madrid coach Allegri, but he seems to be returning to Juventus.
I agree with you. Raul is too early to train, even though he is a successor to Zidane. I don't want to see Madrid like Juve this season, failing at UCL. Appoint Flick is the best choice, he has a pretty good record.

With Bayern Munich he won the title
Bundesliga: 2019–20, 2020–21
DFB-Pokal: 2019–20
DFL-Supercup: 2020
UEFA Champions League: 2019–20
UEFA Super Cup: 2020
FIFA Club World Cup: 2020
Apart from this he has quite a number of individual titles.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Dieter_Flick

Indeed, there is no need to doubt the record that Hans Dieter Flick has, but according to the news I read he chose to be the coach of
the German national team. So like Real Madrid, it will be difficult to get Hans Flick to replace Zidane. Especially after PSG gave a statement
that Pochettino would not move anywhere, this made Madrid not have many choices. I hope Real Madrid don't make Raul the successor to Zidane,
it's like a gamble to make Raul the coach of Madrid.

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May 31, 2021, 10:45:50 PM
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Aguero has joined Barcelona as a free agent, hopefully that would help solve some problems on the frontline, but the real question while ditch Suarez, if you're all going to come back to settle for Aguero ?

Either ways, I'd take Aguero over Brathwaite or Greizmann up front any day.

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1399393268509650947

This is very interesting to wait, Aguero has a character that is almost the same as Suarez I can't wait to see how these players are paired
Reportedly the Barcelona manager will also be replaced, have you got the news?

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May 31, 2021, 11:52:43 PM
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I think Massimiliano Allegri is a good choice to replace Zidane, unfortunately, he prefers to handle Juventus. So another good option is Antonio Conte who has brought Inter Milan to win the Scudetto.
Allegri may be better than Raul Gonzales but it is not a proper option for Real Madrid if Florentino Pérez dreams for both La Liga title and UCL trophy in the next season. I think Allegri has not enough capacity to manage Real Madrid players. Real Madrid needs a stronger coach, surely Conte is much better to replace Zidane. With a charismatic and friendly style, he is also likely to be easier to adapt to the players. This is necessary to improve players' trust in the new coach.


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May 31, 2021, 11:58:45 PM
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The best option for Real Madrid would be Flick. But he decided to associate his career with the national team. Raul has no work experience, but I think that he will be appointed all the same. Pochetino is unlikely to leave PSG. Conte is too conflicted person and he will not work with Perez. Besides Flick, I would like to see Real Madrid coach Allegri, but he seems to be returning to Juventus.
I agree with you. Raul is too early to train, even though he is a successor to Zidane. I don't want to see Madrid like Juve this season, failing at UCL. Appoint Flick is the best choice, he has a pretty good record.
With Bayern Munich he won the title
Bundesliga: 2019–20, 2020–21
DFB-Pokal: 2019–20
DFL-Supercup: 2020
UEFA Champions League: 2019–20
UEFA Super Cup: 2020
FIFA Club World Cup: 2020
Apart from this he has quite a number of individual titles.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Dieter_Flick
Indeed, there is no need to doubt the record that Hans Dieter Flick has, but according to the news I read he chose to be the coach of
the German national team. So like Real Madrid, it will be difficult to get Hans Flick to replace Zidane. Especially after PSG gave a statement
that Pochettino would not move anywhere, this made Madrid not have many choices. I hope Real Madrid don't make Raul the successor to Zidane,
it's like a gamble to make Raul the coach of Madrid.
It's just that the management hopes that it will be possible to find a specialist who will be able to carry out a generational change in Real Madrid and Raul seems to be suitable for these purposes, but I still advised the club's management to look at the not quite successful example of Juventus with Pirlo and not think that everything will turn out as it turned out with Zidane. I think that the decision of Flick is final and the specialist will lead the national team, otherwise it may have a bad impact on the image component of Flick. Let's remember the example of Lopetegui and the Spanish national team and what a scandal it led to and how much Lopetegui returned to normal work after that.
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The best option for Real Madrid would be Flick. But he decided to associate his career with the national team. Raul has no work experience, but I think that he will be appointed all the same. Pochetino is unlikely to leave PSG. Conte is too conflicted person and he will not work with Perez. Besides Flick, I would like to see Real Madrid coach Allegri, but he seems to be returning to Juventus.
I agree with you. Raul is too early to train, even though he is a successor to Zidane. I don't want to see Madrid like Juve this season, failing at UCL. Appoint Flick is the best choice, he has a pretty good record.
With Bayern Munich he won the title
Bundesliga: 2019–20, 2020–21
DFB-Pokal: 2019–20
DFL-Supercup: 2020
UEFA Champions League: 2019–20
UEFA Super Cup: 2020
FIFA Club World Cup: 2020
Apart from this he has quite a number of individual titles.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Dieter_Flick
Indeed, there is no need to doubt the record that Hans Dieter Flick has, but according to the news I read he chose to be the coach of
the German national team. So like Real Madrid, it will be difficult to get Hans Flick to replace Zidane. Especially after PSG gave a statement
that Pochettino would not move anywhere, this made Madrid not have many choices. I hope Real Madrid don't make Raul the successor to Zidane,
it's like a gamble to make Raul the coach of Madrid.
It's just that the management hopes that it will be possible to find a specialist who will be able to carry out a generational change in Real Madrid and Raul seems to be suitable for these purposes, but I still advised the club's management to look at the not quite successful example of Juventus with Pirlo and not think that everything will turn out as it turned out with Zidane. I think that the decision of Flick is final and the specialist will lead the national team, otherwise it may have a bad impact on the image component of Flick. Let's remember the example of Lopetegui and the Spanish national team and what a scandal it led to and how much Lopetegui returned to normal work after that.

@AndySt while Real Madrid are not too keen on Conte, I yet feel that they should target him because he’ll help them win trophies and possibly the champions league too. Furthermore Conte doesn’t have too many options too, because only Real Madrid require a coach and they're one of those clubs that can back him in the transfer window.
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June 01, 2021, 09:48:48 AM
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If it comes to Real Madrid, make Raul as coach, meaning that Real Madrid did not learn from Juventus mistakes that made Pirlo as coach,
and also Arsenal who made Arteta as coach. Because good players are not necessarily good coaches either, so Raul must have experience
first to be able to handle a team as big as Madrid. The most suitable choice is indeed Antonio Conte for now, with Conte's experience who
has handled several big teams, that is enough to prove that Conte deserves the opportunity to become coach of Real Madrid.
Probably because they believe Raul can be another success like Zidane. Raul at least has more experience with management than Pirlo. They are different but a little more experience with youth, academy, etc. does not mean Raul has experience in top level such as La Liga.

They are newbies in highest level of their national leagues. I don't know what Real Madrid plan to do. Choices as Conte or Pochettino gives them higher probability to get success. Perhaps the pandemic brings some troubles to Real Madrid and they want to invest budget for player transfer rather than spend it for coach and compensation if they sack a coach.

Raul Gonzalez is more experienced than Pirlo, one of his achievements as a coach was leading the Real Madrid U-19 team by winning the UEFA
Youth League. Even a number of Real Madrid legends want Raul Gonzalez to be Zidane's successor. Like Fernando Morientes, Predrag Mijatovic,
Jorge Valdano and Alvaro Benito want Raul to become Real Madrid coach. With a lot of support towards Raul, there is a possibility that Florentino
Perez as president of Madrid was influenced to choose Raul as Madrid coach. Maybe another reason Raul will be chosen as Madrid coach might be
like you say Madrid want to focus more on investing to buy players. We'll see who will replace Zidane as Real Madrid coach in the end,
but still I really hope it's not Raul.

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June 01, 2021, 10:03:52 AM
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If it comes to Real Madrid, make Raul as coach, meaning that Real Madrid did not learn from Juventus mistakes that made Pirlo as coach,
and also Arsenal who made Arteta as coach. Because good players are not necessarily good coaches either, so Raul must have experience
first to be able to handle a team as big as Madrid. The most suitable choice is indeed Antonio Conte for now, with Conte's experience who
has handled several big teams, that is enough to prove that Conte deserves the opportunity to become coach of Real Madrid.
Probably because they believe Raul can be another success like Zidane. Raul at least has more experience with management than Pirlo. They are different but a little more experience with youth, academy, etc. does not mean Raul has experience in top level such as La Liga.

They are newbies in highest level of their national leagues. I don't know what Real Madrid plan to do. Choices as Conte or Pochettino gives them higher probability to get success. Perhaps the pandemic brings some troubles to Real Madrid and they want to invest budget for player transfer rather than spend it for coach and compensation if they sack a coach.

Raul Gonzalez is more experienced than Pirlo, one of his achievements as a coach was leading the Real Madrid U-19 team by winning the UEFA
Youth League. Even a number of Real Madrid legends want Raul Gonzalez to be Zidane's successor. Like Fernando Morientes, Predrag Mijatovic,
Jorge Valdano and Alvaro Benito want Raul to become Real Madrid coach. With a lot of support towards Raul, there is a possibility that Florentino
Perez as president of Madrid was influenced to choose Raul as Madrid coach. Maybe another reason Raul will be chosen as Madrid coach might be
like you say Madrid want to focus more on investing to buy players. We'll see who will replace Zidane as Real Madrid coach in the end,
but still I really hope it's not Raul.
The idea of getting Carlo Ancelotti seems to me very attractive to Real Madrid at this time .
The man of peace as he knows will have to mitigate the impact of Zidane's message as he eased the division in the dressing rooms during just like what he did in his first period after Mourinho left Madrid, Ancelotti is an expert coach and has a lot of respect in the Madrid street as the Perez, getting Raul is a big gamble true he could succeed like Zidane did also he could make it even worse but there were many other reasons for Zidane to succeed and for Raul there are many others to fail so he is going to gamble with his career if he decides to take the job of Perez offered to him.
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June 01, 2021, 12:08:48 PM
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Since we are already talking about Real Madrid, then I noticed another oddity ... Spain's current squad has no Real players, what the fuck? I don't quite understand what Luis Enrique was guided by when choosing players, but he didn't even take Sergio Ramos ... I have not found information on the composition of the Spanish national team in the past years, but apparently such discrimination of one of the strongest clubs for the first time, (Barcelona fans are ecstatic).

HAha yeah old news. But even Ramos himself said he understood the decision and over the Spanish league they all know the current squad is old and weak, and there is desperate need to make fresh blood. Not to win this EURO but to prepare for the next world cup.

Ramos and his gang understood it and I think no one is outraged. It's not discrimination it's purely a judgement of talent and injury.

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Real Madrid unveiled the new blancos jersey. Waiting to understand who will be the new coach, ready to take over the legacy of Zinedine Zidane (among the candidates there was also Antonio Conte, freshly divorced from Inter, but in pole there is Carlo Ancelotti as per the last rumors), the Merengues redo the look: white shirt, of course, with sponsors and blue stripes and part of the orange collar, as well as part of the armhole. Goodbye pink, back to orange and blue as in the past. And in the photos there is no Sergio Ramos, Real's captain, whose contract's expiring...
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Real Madrid unveiled the new blancos jersey. Waiting to understand who will be the new coach, ready to take over the legacy of Zinedine Zidane (among the candidates there was also Antonio Conte, freshly divorced from Inter, but in pole there is Carlo Ancelotti as per the last rumors)
Apparently Ancelotti joining Real Madrid is not just a rumor according to Marca. Today we might see an announcement about him being officially the new coach. Not sure about his contract with Everton but I assume it won't be a big deal. Real Madrid administration prefers to see an experienced and qualified manager, there isn't many available, Ancelotti or Conte, otherwise trying Gonzalez.
I prefer to see Raul working with one of them and once he is ready he can replace them. Waiting for the official news.

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Real Madrid unveiled the new blancos jersey. Waiting to understand who will be the new coach, ready to take over the legacy of Zinedine Zidane (among the candidates there was also Antonio Conte, freshly divorced from Inter, but in pole there is Carlo Ancelotti as per the last rumors), the Merengues redo the look: white shirt, of course, with sponsors and blue stripes and part of the orange collar, as well as part of the armhole. Goodbye pink, back to orange and blue as in the past. And in the photos there is no Sergio Ramos, Real's captain, whose contract's expiring...

Congratulations to Real Madrid for their new jersey, but I'm really sorry if Sergio Ramos' contract isn't renewed, at least he can sit on the bench.

And based on rumors, there are 3 potential replacement coaches for Zinedine Zidane. There are Antonio Conte, Raul Gonzalez (Real Madrid Legend) and Massimiliano Allegri.

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... , and this is what makes me expect Aguero's brilliance in Barcelona if they employ him well.
Those are interesting observations. Another thing that could make Aguero successful in Barcelona is the fact that he's played under the guidance of a former Barca coach. His link up with Messi is something to look forward to if he decides to stay.

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I do not get people who feel like Raul lacks the talent and experience to be a good manager for Real Madrid. You guys realize that Zidane was assistant at Real for like a year, had like 37 games as head coach of castilla then became a major manager at Real who won 3 champions league titles right? This guy had just 1 year of assistant at real and less than 40 games for castilla before he became one of the best managers in the entire world, that was enough for him.

Raul has about the same, he has been manager at castilla for 50 games and he could very well start at Real right now and can make a huge change and become awesome afterwards. I am not saying he will be, all I am saying is you do not decide if a manager is good or not based on his previous work at youth teams all that much, Zidane did it and he became good, raul could do it and become good or bad, it is not definite answer until Real tries him.

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June 01, 2021, 04:58:35 PM
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Real Madrid unveiled the new blancos jersey. Waiting to understand who will be the new coach, ready to take over the legacy of Zinedine Zidane (among the candidates there was also Antonio Conte, freshly divorced from Inter, but in pole there is Carlo Ancelotti as per the last rumors), the Merengues redo the look: white shirt, of course, with sponsors and blue stripes and part of the orange collar, as well as part of the armhole. Goodbye pink, back to orange and blue as in the past. And in the photos there is no Sergio Ramos, Real's captain, whose contract's expiring...

Congratulations to Real Madrid for their new jersey, but I'm really sorry if Sergio Ramos' contract isn't renewed, at least he can sit on the bench.

And based on rumors, there are 3 potential replacement coaches for Zinedine Zidane. There are Antonio Conte, Raul Gonzalez (Real Madrid Legend) and Massimiliano Allegri.

Ramos is offered a 1 + 1 contract, but he wants a two-year contract at once. In my opinion, Ramos, as the captain and legend of the club, should agree to the club's terms. Moreover, he is 35 years old and he is unlikely to find a club in which he will play on a permanent basis. At the expense of the new coach - there are rumors that negotiations are underway with Ancelotti.
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