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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
Total Voters: 121

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October 26, 2022, 12:55:25 PM
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It should be worth noting that he has a bad win rate if compared to the last 6 managers at Barcelona since 2001 after 50 games. If the win rate keeps low, I think the management will look into it too when considering his future, regardless of how good Real Madrid will be.


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It is a bad win rate for Xavi but we must include a factor that Barcelona has to play without Messi under Xavi time. We know how important Messi is for Barcelona. His departure is a big minus point for Barcelona and after that they have been playing  with less powerful and creative attacking.

Messi can not solve all things but he can do a lot of things that are beneficial for Barcelona generally.

It is worth noting that even this win rate for Xavi is too one-sided - Barcelona wins games against weak teams, but loses to strong ones almost guaranteed. Something I do not remember that with those coaches Barcelona left the Champions League immediately after the group stage. Overall, I think that Barcelona will have big problems in the summer and a change of coach will not be the biggest issue by then. Maybe even Xavi will stay to train the youth and will gradually introduce them into the main team.
In the past season, people were happy with Xavi and recognized his management in Barcelona. It was chanfed after the summer transfer as their fans hoped that Xavi can help them to win La Liga. That is still a difficult mission for Xavi and his players. Their fans also were optimistic that Barcelona will play as a giant in Champions League again. It was proven that they can not and even are facing risk of demotion to Europa League.

I agree that stats for 50 matches is bad and worse than other coaches but we must consider player quality at different seasons. I don't deny that Xavi must improve his management too but it looks good enough for a young coach.

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October 26, 2022, 12:56:32 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
Valencia vs Barcelona match is difficult to predict even though  are several opportunities to dominate Barcelona to win this match, Valencia often makes surprises when they play at home. But looking at the series of results from their last 5 matches, I'm pretty sure Barcelona will easily beat Valencia. Valencia front line this season is not too aggressive because Gennaro Gattuso still relies on Edison Cavani who has so far contributed 4 goals from 6 appearances this season. Now this is in contrast to Lewandowski who is on fire on the front lines who have scored 12 goals so far.

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October 26, 2022, 01:13:07 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
Valencia vs Barcelona match is difficult to predict even though  are several opportunities to dominate Barcelona to win this match, Valencia often makes surprises when they play at home. But looking at the series of results from their last 5 matches, I'm pretty sure Barcelona will easily beat Valencia. Valencia front line this season is not too aggressive because Gennaro Gattuso still relies on Edison Cavani who has so far contributed 4 goals from 6 appearances this season. Now this is in contrast to Lewandowski who is on fire on the front lines who have scored 12 goals so far.
Gattuso has just made Valencia more attacking even their productivity was quite better than last season and they almost be scoring goals for each matches but they recent performance seems decline because Valencia was failed to wins 3 times streak in Laliga and also this is their first tested against big team in Laliga so this hard match for them especially head to head statistics between both of teams showed Barcelona is too strong for Valencia because on the previous meetings Barcelona can wins several times with big scores so if Barcelona can playing well i think 3 points certaintly will belongs to them however i haven't checked the odds yet but as the favourite probably the bookie will provide low odds for Barcelona approximately @1.5 or probably below to that

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October 26, 2022, 01:30:27 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

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October 26, 2022, 02:42:39 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
Valencia vs Barcelona match is difficult to predict even though  are several opportunities to dominate Barcelona to win this match, Valencia often makes surprises when they play at home. But looking at the series of results from their last 5 matches, I'm pretty sure Barcelona will easily beat Valencia. Valencia front line this season is not too aggressive because Gennaro Gattuso still relies on Edison Cavani who has so far contributed 4 goals from 6 appearances this season. Now this is in contrast to Lewandowski who is on fire on the front lines who have scored 12 goals so far.
Valencia is good but too far to be compared to Barcelona. Valencia has the potential to make it difficult for Barcelona, but it only makes it difficult and I think it is very difficult for Valencia to be able to surprise by winning the game. Valencia only have a more dominant draw record from their last 5 matches. I don't think that Barcelona will drop points.

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October 26, 2022, 03:11:13 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
Loss 4 of 11 games I don't think with Valencia most impressive performance in this season and have 15 points with 9th standings position place, Barcelona keep favorite to win against Valencia depending how consistent performance in La Liga and won all matches except at el  clasico. After beating by Real Madrid last two matches Barcelona won with bigger scored won 3-0 from Villareal and last week won 4-0 from Athletic Bilbao. I think Barcelona will continues with winning record against Valencia depending last three matches failed to win, have several bad result I don't think Barcelona get difficulty to beat Valencia for matchday 12.

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October 26, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
I don't see Valencia as a team showing impressive performances, the last time Valencia got a win in La Liga was on October 8 when they beat Osasuna with a score of 2-1. After that Valencia never got a win, Valencia was only able to get two draws against Elche and Sevilla and one defeat to Mallorca.

Barcelona will try to give the best performance at Valencia's house so that the difference in points with Real Madrid is maintained. Barcelona must play optimally, they must not underestimate Valencia who have not won in their last three matches. Losing points makes Valencia players even more eager to get a win in this match.

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October 26, 2022, 03:39:39 PM
Last edit: October 26, 2022, 03:51:24 PM by Zlantann
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

Karim Benzema have not had a pleasant season because of injuries. His latest thigh injury kept him out of play for almost two weeks. But Robert Lewandowski have had a stable season and that is why he is far ahead of Benzema in goals. I think it is Lewandowski's time to conquer not only the La Liga but the world.

It is worth noting that even this win rate for Xavi is too one-sided - Barcelona wins games against weak teams, but loses to strong ones almost guaranteed. Something I do not remember that with those coaches Barcelona left the Champions League immediately after the group stage. Overall, I think that Barcelona will have big problems in the summer and a change of coach will not be the biggest issue by then. Maybe even Xavi will stay to train the youth and will gradually introduce them into the main team.

This statistics is not a bad performance for a young and youthful coach. Xavi is still gaining experience and I am sure he would keep improving. His good relationship with players have attracted so many players to Barcelona. The club should be very patient with him regardless of the critism. Arsenal is currently enjoying Mikel Arteta because they believed in him and gave him all the time he need to revamp the team.


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October 26, 2022, 03:44:47 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

Karim Benzema have not had a pleasant season because of injuries. His latest thigh injury kept him out of play for almost two weeks. But Robert Lewandowski have had a stable season and that is why he is far ahead of Benzema in goals. I think it is Lewandowski's time to conquer not only the La Liga but the world.
But in this case we also know that after the injury Benzema still cannot return to his former form. Regardless this is a little bit out of my expectations because apart from expecting competition in the table between Barcelona and Madrid I would also like to see a rivalry between Benzema and Lewandowski but now it looks like something like this has yet to be seen.

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October 26, 2022, 03:47:51 PM
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Lewandowski would try to get the Ballon d'Or this season. But he has big obstacles ahead of him. One of them is Barcelona. Because they are most probably going to the Europa League soon. This is a big downgrade and it is really hard for a player to get that prize as long as his team do bad in the biggest European tournament like the Champions League.

The other obstacle and the biggest one is Haaland of course. He has performed incredibly well so far and Manchester City are also doing well in the Champions League. He is already the biggest candidate for the prize.

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October 26, 2022, 04:03:12 PM
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Gattuso has just made Valencia more attacking even their productivity was quite better than last season and they almost be scoring goals for each matches but they recent performance seems decline because Valencia was failed to wins 3 times streak in Laliga and also this is their first tested against big team in Laliga so this hard match for them especially head to head statistics between both of teams showed Barcelona is too strong for Valencia because on the previous meetings Barcelona can wins several times with big scores so if Barcelona can playing well i think 3 points certaintly will belongs to them however i haven't checked the odds yet but as the favourite probably the bookie will provide low odds for Barcelona approximately @1.5 or probably below to that
valencia performance was quite unstable in the previous few matches they often experienced big problems when facing counter attacks where this happened when valencia faced mallorca in the previous match because in terms of play they were able to dominate the game by scoring early goals but in the end they had to lose to mallorca due to not playing too carefully in the second half. maybe this is a reference point for Gatttuso to improve their performance when facing barcelona later. I think valencia opportunity for this match is quite big and it takes a lot of effort to make it happen.

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October 26, 2022, 04:07:32 PM
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Actually I don't see Barcelona not taking their Champions League game seriously. Because of the results of their last two matches because a lot of players who are usually the first choice can't play because of the injuries they have. It is very difficult for them to qualify from this group stage because they have to finish 2 matches with a win, and also the result of the Inter Milan match will be very decisive for their next step in the Champions League. It would take a lot of magic to see Barcelona qualify for the knockout phase.
Barcelona really want to go as farthest as possible in Champions League because it means they will have more income to heal their finance crisis. I don't think it is a good explanation to blame all on injuries. Opponents of Barcelona did not have their best players for their matches too and all clubs must be able to cover injured players and achieve good results for their clubs.

Inter Milan and Bayern Munich are well deserved to go next in this group. Sorry but see Barcelona next season even it is bad to not have them in Champions League after next two match days.
The problem is that Xavi is too focused on their core players so indeed when some of their players get injured it becomes like a setback for Xavi.
Even though it seems like they are looking for excuses by saying Injuries to players, but whether they realize it or not, this has an impact on them. It's difficult when you look at their current condition, it's clear that there is a real difference when their main players play and when they are injured.

I think they are currently spending a lot of money, of course the expectations are high but with the current conditions they are gambling to return to losing money this season from a financial point of view.
If I understand you clearly, you are saying Xavi is not open to trying different players in the squad and prefers to stick to one set of players. When you look at the current Barcelona squad you will begin to wonder what the problem is if after signing up to 7 new and experienced players to the sauad and they still get bad results. The team us currently suffering poor performance and Xavi needs to do something about it.
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October 26, 2022, 04:09:24 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

WOW! Shocked I had some kind of belief that Lewandowski was performing way better than other candidates to win the "Balón de Oro" this year, but viewing the comparison in table form it is obvious that the rest of competitors will have to work really hard for the rest of the season in orden to have any chances against him.

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October 26, 2022, 04:24:31 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

Karim Benzema have not had a pleasant season because of injuries. His latest thigh injury kept him out of play for almost two weeks. But Robert Lewandowski have had a stable season and that is why he is far ahead of Benzema in goals. I think it is Lewandowski's time to conquer not only the La Liga but the world.

It is worth noting that even this win rate for Xavi is too one-sided - Barcelona wins games against weak teams, but loses to strong ones almost guaranteed. Something I do not remember that with those coaches Barcelona left the Champions League immediately after the group stage. Overall, I think that Barcelona will have big problems in the summer and a change of coach will not be the biggest issue by then. Maybe even Xavi will stay to train the youth and will gradually introduce them into the main team.

This statistics is not a bad performance for a young and youthful coach. Xavi is still gaining experience and I am sure he would keep improving. His good relationship with players have attracted so many players to Barcelona. The club should be very patient with him regardless of the critism. Arsenal is currently enjoying Mikel Arteta because they believed in him and gave him all the time he need to revamp the team.



Xavi's Coaching pattern is what is affecting the Barcelona team, I know that he is still gaining more experience as a young coach but he's supposed to know the players and the playing tactics to use in the team to be able to excel as the coach as someone who was part of the team when they dominated the Spanish League. He should move away from his relationship with players and get the right players that are willing to win matches and score goals in every match not solely depending on a particular player to put all the loads of the team to.

Being patient with him is not the best thing now I think the club should encourage him to do more good job with the players so they can get good results otherwise he should step down for another manager to continue with the team, Arsenal's problem can't be compared to that of Barcelona because Barcelona is in big debt will Arsenal has been without a trophy for so many seasons but they have managed to survive without incurring much debt to the club.

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October 26, 2022, 04:36:16 PM
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Lewandowski would try to get the Ballon d'Or this season. But he has big obstacles ahead of him. One of them is Barcelona. Because they are most probably going to the Europa League soon. This is a big downgrade and it is really hard for a player to get that prize as long as his team do bad in the biggest European tournament like the Champions League.

The other obstacle and the biggest one is Haaland of course. He has performed incredibly well so far and Manchester City are also doing well in the Champions League. He is already the biggest candidate for the prize.
Although the possibility can still happen but it will be difficult for Lewandowski to be able to make it happen because the competition for the Ballon D'OR this season will definitely be very tight. Apart from the team he is currently playing for may leave the Champions League, the emergence of talented young players will also join the competition. I wouldn't say he has gone downhill, but his moment to get that I think is missed.

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October 26, 2022, 04:49:26 PM
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Valencia is definitely one team that i would say have been very impressive this season. Same as Barcelona a in the league. Both teams meeting in the coming game will be very interesting with both teams wanting to get all three points from the game. Both defenses will be ready to face the attacks from the their attackers. Barcelona's attack looks more dangerous so it will be an interesting game to see.
Valencia vs Barcelona match is difficult to predict even though  are several opportunities to dominate Barcelona to win this match, Valencia often makes surprises when they play at home. But looking at the series of results from their last 5 matches, I'm pretty sure Barcelona will easily beat Valencia. Valencia front line this season is not too aggressive because Gennaro Gattuso still relies on Edison Cavani who has so far contributed 4 goals from 6 appearances this season. Now this is in contrast to Lewandowski who is on fire on the front lines who have scored 12 goals so far.
I don't think that Valencia will play better than Barcelona, in fact they can be said to have failed in their last 5 matches having only managed to record one win. Playing at home to opponents is not a reason for Barcelona to drop points in this match. Of course, with the games they have shown this season, they believe in Barcelona to be able to win easily against Valencia. But before that we will see them struggling in the Champions League which in a few hours will start soon.


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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

WOW! Shocked I had some kind of belief that Lewandowski was performing way better than other candidates to win the "Balón de Oro" this year, but viewing the comparison in table form it is obvious that the rest of competitors will have to work really hard for the rest of the season in orden to have any chances against him.

I think it's too early to say who deserves the Ballon D'or award. Lewandowski's performance with Barcelona is good but that doesn't mean that he will continue to put on such performances without any decline. Moreover, there are still many potential young players who also in my opinion deserve to be considered for this award.

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October 26, 2022, 04:55:56 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

WOW! Shocked I had some kind of belief that Lewandowski was performing way better than other candidates to win the "Balón de Oro" this year, but viewing the comparison in table form it is obvious that the rest of competitors will have to work really hard for the rest of the season in orden to have any chances against him.


Ballon D'Or is not only seen from the results of La Liga matches. The UEFA Champions League is also the most important part. How about E. Haaland who is in the English league at the moment, even placing first in Group G.

Moreover, this season will also include the results of the world cup matches. Whoever is able to bring his country to become world champions, it will be the strongest candidate for the Ballon D'Or title.

If the ballon D'Or is seen from the number of goals, then the midfielder has no chance of getting the ballor D'Or title. While Modric won the Ballon D'Or title in 2018.

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October 26, 2022, 05:00:02 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

WOW! Shocked I had some kind of belief that Lewandowski was performing way better than other candidates to win the "Balón de Oro" this year, but viewing the comparison in table form it is obvious that the rest of competitors will have to work really hard for the rest of the season in orden to have any chances against him.

Do you dream to see Lewandowski win the Ballon d'Or next season. It seems that this is a good moment for him to get the prestigious award, but the criteria to get a ballon dor is none other than that there must be a stunning achievement with the team he is defending, for example being able to bring his team to become the winner of the UCL trophy. whether it's heavy and not just racing on the top scorer domestic league friends. Lewandowski indeed failed to get this prestigious award several times because he lost votes from other players who were more dominating to get the ballon d'Or.

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October 26, 2022, 05:34:10 PM
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Lewandowski would try to get the Ballon d'Or this season. But he has big obstacles ahead of him. One of them is Barcelona. Because they are most probably going to the Europa League soon. This is a big downgrade and it is really hard for a player to get that prize as long as his team do bad in the biggest European tournament like the Champions League.

The other obstacle and the biggest one is Haaland of course. He has performed incredibly well so far and Manchester City are also doing well in the Champions League. He is already the biggest candidate for the prize.
Although the possibility can still happen but it will be difficult for Lewandowski to be able to make it happen because the competition for the Ballon D'OR this season will definitely be very tight. Apart from the team he is currently playing for may leave the Champions League, the emergence of talented young players will also join the competition. I wouldn't say he has gone downhill, but his moment to get that I think is missed.

In addition to the missed moment, Lewandowski also did not choose the right team, because at first Barcelona was in a difficult situation. But indeed, if for example this season Lewandowski managed to give many titles to Barcelona, ​​then Lewandowski still has a chance to get the Ballon d'Or. But because as it was said that Barcelona were eliminated from the Champions League, then of course it would make the chances for Lewandowski to win the Ballon d'Or have been reduced.
So in this case, I don't think Lewandowski needs to focus on getting the Ballon d'Or. Because after all, personal rewards will come if the player can give all the abilities he has to contribute greatly to every title that the team gets.

So yes, speaking of the Ballon d'Or it is not easy because there are many other talented players who are in a better team. But one thing that does become a benchmark is, about the treble winner for the team where they or the candidate for the Ballon d'Or are in it.
Therefore, considering the current situation of Barcelona even though it looks good in La Liga so far but still, it is difficult for Barcelona to be able to get a treble winner this season so Lewandowski's chances of winning the Ballon d'Or are indeed low.

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October 26, 2022, 05:41:04 PM
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maybe it was better to give the golden ball to Lewandowski , he is a scoring machine and nobody stops him

Benzema is in sixth position regarding goals, he is a good player for charity .. but in my opinion he is # 2 compared to Lewandowski

WOW! Shocked I had some kind of belief that Lewandowski was performing way better than other candidates to win the "Balón de Oro" this year, but viewing the comparison in table form it is obvious that the rest of competitors will have to work really hard for the rest of the season in orden to have any chances against him.

I understand what you want but you seem to be forgetting something that the Ballon d'Or doesn't only come from his individual performances but from the point of view of his personal achievements with the team as well.
And the fact that he's still been doing pretty well this season is true but when he failed to get past the Champions League for Barcelona and still isn't safe in La Liga it's clearly still an influence so I'm not really sure about Lewandowski.

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