La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

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why in this thread people only talk more about barcelona and barcelona players? joke, speaking of barcelona, today they were eliminated from the champions league, but what is sadder is that barcelona failed to score at least 1 goal. for a team that has a great player and they haven't managed to score at least 1 goal this is something very strange but it's also something for the barcelona coach needs to see that barcelona is in need of two more forwards, if the barcelona coach can't get it hire two strikers so they won't be strong enough to win the next champions league and even there they might have trouble winning games

Has anyone watched the Atletico Madrid game? they were a disappointment in the european camps league, they wasted a lot of opportunities, i watched the game and it was disappointing

Mostly poeple in here are always focusing to the barcelona caused by they were over reacting with the performance from lewandowski. Sevilla has been kicking out from champion league as well. Atletico madrid has no chance anymore to go to the last 16. It seems like la liga groups who already kicked out from champion league will be facing a big pressure. I meant the pressure from champion league may still there. They will be feeling disappointed with their result in the. champion league.
It seems all of al liga clubs in the champion leagues are giving bad result except king real madrid which is always going to the last 16. La liga fan must be proud madrid. A team that is always consistent with good result.

[shogun47]

why in this thread people only talk more about barcelona and barcelona players? joke, speaking of barcelona, today they were eliminated from the champions league, but what is sadder is that barcelona failed to score at least 1 goal. for a team that has a great player and they haven't managed to score at least 1 goal this is something very strange but it's also something for the barcelona coach needs to see that barcelona is in need of two more forwards, if the barcelona coach can't get it hire two strikers so they won't be strong enough to win the next champions league and even there they might have trouble winning games

Has anyone watched the Atletico Madrid game? they were a disappointment in the european camps league, they wasted a lot of opportunities, i watched the game and it was disappointing

Mostly poeple in here are always focusing to the barcelona caused by they were over reacting with the performance from lewandowski. Sevilla has been kicking out from champion league as well. Atletico madrid has no chance anymore to go to the last 16. It seems like la liga groups who already kicked out from champion league will be facing a big pressure. I meant the pressure from champion league may still there. They will be feeling disappointed with their result in the. champion league.
It seems all of al liga clubs in the champion leagues are giving bad result except king real madrid which is always going to the last 16. La liga fan must be proud madrid. A team that is always consistent with good result.

The issue with Barcelona is that they were kicked out of the Champions League in a group where they should have become second with their squad. Losing againt Bayern first leg and second leg is ok, that can happen, but against Inter Milan, which is not that strong as it used to be in former seasons, they should have been able to get through with their squad. Many Barcelona players are in great shape and they have Lewandowski on top of that. Anyway, you are right that Spanish soccer is having a hard time right now. Atletico against Leverkusen would have been a clear cut case years ago, but now they can't even win their home game against Leverkusen.

We also see that Atletico isn't the team it used to be in La Liga. Don't score that much, but above all don't concede many goals. That was their strength and that is kind of gone currently.

[babo]

Winning the champions league demands some brilliance of the coach hard work of the players excellence of some individual performance in some big game's to send a team through a rough path. Just like you said they are in the right direction they will get the bigger squad they use to be and posses. Dembele needs to go, Xavi needs to get back to the under twenty three and bring in young players who are ready to play for the club. Barcelona are not in the level of Bayern Munich that's quite observable

I am also of your idea, and I also want to motivate it so that you understand why I think it
Barcelona is doing well in a non-competitive domestic league (La Liga)
Barcelona is doing badly in the Champions League, notoriously very competitive

this already makes you understand the level of Barcelona
then this season is that of the restart, he must start again from this season (perhaps in second place not far from Real Madrid) for the next

[Docnaster]

Winning the champions league demands some brilliance of the coach hard work of the players excellence of some individual performance in some big game's to send a team through a rough path. Just like you said they are in the right direction they will get the bigger squad they use to be and posses. Dembele needs to go, Xavi needs to get back to the under twenty three and bring in young players who are ready to play for the club. Barcelona are not in the level of Bayern Munich that's quite observable

I am also of your idea, and I also want to motivate it so that you understand why I think it
Barcelona is doing well in a non-competitive domestic league (La Liga)
Barcelona is doing badly in the Champions League, notoriously very competitive

this already makes you understand the level of Barcelona
then this season is that of the restart, he must start again from this season (perhaps in second place not far from Real Madrid) for the next

You don't seem to understand the problem of Barcelona. Barcelona has ideology problem and coaching problem. Barcelona team has great individual players like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, De Jong and many more that I cannot mention. They have players that can match Bayern Munich and other clubs but Xavi got it wrong. Why do you want Dembele to leave? Is Dembele the problem of Barcelona?
Barcelona has good players they need Xavi to change method.

[rahmad2nd]

You don't seem to understand the problem of Barcelona. Barcelona has ideology problem and coaching problem. Barcelona team has great individual players like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, De Jong and many more that I cannot mention. They have players that can match Bayern Munich and other clubs but Xavi got it wrong. Why do you want Dembele to leave? Is Dembele the problem of Barcelona?
Barcelona has good players they need Xavi to change method.

quite reasonable.

however, in my personal opinion. there are many complex problems that occur within the Barcelona team.
starting from finances, signing new players with very limited funds and there are still other things that are quite limiting Xavi's movements in the transfer market last summer.

Barcelona's problems came, when after the international break with many injured players. a very tight schedule, making it difficult for Xavi to implement a strategy with the available players.
As a result, Barcelona played badly in the Champions League and El Clasico matches. the role of veteran players, did not contribute much. in particular, Busquets and Gerard Pique who played really badly. in last night's match Xavi again fielded Busquets where he really played badly. Previously, Xavi had replaced the role of Busquets by De Jong as vipot.

however, unfortunately Xavi is still not confident to install the starting line-up in the match. regardless of Xavi's wrong method or strategy, plus underperforming players.
in fact Barcelona have failed. and I have to accept it as a Barcelona supporter.

[hashrateproducts]

You don't seem to understand the problem of Barcelona. Barcelona has ideology problem and coaching problem. Barcelona team has great individual players like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, De Jong and many more that I cannot mention. They have players that can match Bayern Munich and other clubs but Xavi got it wrong. Why do you want Dembele to leave? Is Dembele the problem of Barcelona?
Barcelona has good players they need Xavi to change method.

Barcelona have the required players to meet up Bayern Munich strength in UEFEA and the both team players have the finished strikers with skillful wingers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with barça players, it's just that Xavi always start with the wrong lineups. He should start the good players other than the familiar ones, like Frankie de Jong who have the strength to defend and he's also creative. There are also some players in the team that he give them insufficient playing time like Ansu Fati, I believe Fati is one key player because he's versatile and always good with forcing the ball to his opponents box. It's time for Xavi to drop the old players and start with the young ones who are eager to play games.

[hd49728]

You don't seem to understand the problem of Barcelona. Barcelona has ideology problem and coaching problem. Barcelona team has great individual players like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, De Jong and many more that I cannot mention. They have players that can match Bayern Munich and other clubs but Xavi got it wrong. Why do you want Dembele to leave? Is Dembele the problem of Barcelona?
Barcelona has good players they need Xavi to change method.

They are obsessed with tiki taka but they did not realize that tiki taka has already been decrypted by so many coaches and teams. If they keep continuing to obsess with tiki taka, they are self-damage their progress to rebuild the club.

Not mention their player quality nowadays is worse than years ago and they should accept a fact that Barcelona nowadays are no longer belong to most powerful clubs in the Europe. If they accept it, they will have a more relevant approach, use a better tactics for their players.

Additionally, a club can not rely solely on attacking to win matches and titles. They can if their attacking system is dominating in all matches and can cover weakness of defense. In reality, it is not what Barcelona attacking system have in this season.

Barcelona have the required players to meet up Bayern Munich strength in UEFEA and the both team players have the finished strikers with skillful wingers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with barça players, it's just that Xavi always start with the wrong lineups.

I disagree with this comparison. Barcelona have a lower quality than Bayern Munich and they are completely at different levels. Bayern belongs to Tier 1 and Barcelona belong to somewhere in between Tier 2 and Tier 3. That is why they will join Europa League soon.

He should start the good players other than the familiar ones, like Frankie de Jong who have the strength to defend and he's also creative. There are also some players in the team that he give them insufficient playing time like Ansu Fati, I believe Fati is one key player because he's versatile and always good with forcing the ball to his opponents box. It's time for Xavi to drop the old players and start with the young ones who are eager to play games.

I agree that both De Jong and Fati should be given more opportunities to play. They are both good players especially De Jong who was a very important player for Barcelona before the return of Xavi.

Fati actually needs chance to play and improve after a long injury in the past season. I don't expect an outstanding performance instantly from Fati but Xavi must give this player more playing time.

[Juggy777]

You don't seem to understand the problem of Barcelona. Barcelona has ideology problem and coaching problem. Barcelona team has great individual players like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, De Jong and many more that I cannot mention. They have players that can match Bayern Munich and other clubs but Xavi got it wrong. Why do you want Dembele to leave? Is Dembele the problem of Barcelona?
Barcelona has good players they need Xavi to change method.

They are obsessed with tiki taka but they did not realize that tiki taka has already been decrypted by so many coaches and teams. If they keep continuing to obsess with tiki taka, they are self-damage their progress to rebuild the club.

Not mention their player quality nowadays is worse than years ago and they should accept a fact that Barcelona nowadays are no longer belong to most powerful clubs in the Europe. If they accept it, they will have a more relevant approach, use a better tactics for their players.

Additionally, a club can not rely solely on attacking to win matches and titles. They can if their attacking system is dominating in all matches and can cover weakness of defense. In reality, it is not what Barcelona attacking system have in this season.

Barcelona have the required players to meet up Bayern Munich strength in UEFEA and the both team players have the finished strikers with skillful wingers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with barça players, it's just that Xavi always start with the wrong lineups.

I disagree with this comparison. Barcelona have a lower quality than Bayern Munich and they are completely at different levels. Bayern belongs to Tier 1 and Barcelona belong to somewhere in between Tier 2 and Tier 3. That is why they will join Europa League soon.

He should start the good players other than the familiar ones, like Frankie de Jong who have the strength to defend and he's also creative. There are also some players in the team that he give them insufficient playing time like Ansu Fati, I believe Fati is one key player because he's versatile and always good with forcing the ball to his opponents box. It's time for Xavi to drop the old players and start with the young ones who are eager to play games.

I agree that both De Jong and Fati should be given more opportunities to play. They are both good players especially De Jong who was a very important player for Barcelona before the return of Xavi.

Fati actually needs chance to play and improve after a long injury in the past season. I don't expect an outstanding performance instantly from Fati but Xavi must give this player more playing time.

@hd49728 Xavi started well, but he’s trying hard to please the board by taking decisions like keeping De Jong out of the team or playing him in defence and when a coach does that it effects the entire team’s morale.

Furthermore even though they’re out of the champions league they can yet challenge for the La Liga title if Xavi choses player’s on their merits and tweaks his system to accommodate his current set of player’s, but if he choses to repeat his mistakes then he’ll not win the league title this season too.

[yudi09]

I am also of your idea, and I also want to motivate it so that you understand why I think it
Barcelona is doing well in a non-competitive domestic league (La Liga)
Barcelona is doing badly in the Champions League, notoriously very competitive

this already makes you understand the level of Barcelona
then this season is that of the restart, he must start again from this season (perhaps in second place not far from Real Madrid) for the next

Xavi's efforts and hard work to take Barcelona further in the UEFA Champions League deserves thumbs up. Luck has not been on Xavi's side to be able to do much which makes Barcelona have to go down and play in the UEFA Europa League.
Being in the same group with Bayern Munich and Inter Milan, of course, makes Group C the toughest group for Barcelona. But Barcelona still has hope in La Liga and the UEFA Europa League.

[Razmirraz]

Snip.

Barcelona have the required players to meet up Bayern Munich strength in UEFEA and the both team players have the finished strikers with skillful wingers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with barça players, it's just that Xavi always start with the wrong lineups. He should start the good players other than the familiar ones, like Frankie de Jong who have the strength to defend and he's also creative. There are also some players in the team that he give them insufficient playing time like Ansu Fati, I believe Fati is one key player because he's versatile and always good with forcing the ball to his opponents box. It's time for Xavi to drop the old players and start with the young ones who are eager to play games.

Xavi started the game with high optimism, he fielded the best players Barcelona had, but Barcelona had to bow to Munich for the second time this season and ensure they would advance to the Europa League.
I am still surprised by Barcelona's performance, against big teams they always lose while against small teams they can win games with big scores. Maybe Barcelona are still traumatized by last week's defeat with a team that wears white shirts.

[TopT3ns]

There is a good match between the Barcelona players. During the game, Barcelona plays the matches with a cool head. But I noticed that they do not make any mistakes during the game, because they play a very good game in almost every match. I think Barcelona play this way.  If they can, they can do a lot more.

All Barcelona players did play well but the problem was in the defense, until now Barcelona is still having trouble managing a good guard and is still often broken by many opponents, yesterday Barcelona in the match against Bayern was very embarrassing because they had to submit 3- 0 by Bayern. Robert Lewandowski had no space to keep the ball well and struggled to score. in the previous match against Real Madrid Robert Lewandowski also did not have good space to control the ball so that it made Barcelona lose, this must be a tough evaluation for Xavi to get out of this slump.

[KTChampions]

It is worth noting that even this win rate for Xavi is too one-sided - Barcelona wins games against weak teams, but loses to strong ones almost guaranteed. Something I do not remember that with those coaches Barcelona left the Champions League immediately after the group stage. Overall, I think that Barcelona will have big problems in the summer and a change of coach will not be the biggest issue by then. Maybe even Xavi will stay to train the youth and will gradually introduce them into the main team.

This statistics is not a bad performance for a young and youthful coach. Xavi is still gaining experience and I am sure he would keep improving. His good relationship with players have attracted so many players to Barcelona. The club should be very patient with him regardless of the critism. Arsenal is currently enjoying Mikel Arteta because they believed in him and gave him all the time he need to revamp the team.

Xavi is progressing yes. Last season, he was 0-6 by Bayern on aggregate, and this season, with a huge buff in the summer, he has already managed to go 0-5   
The problem is that Barcelona is positioning itself not as an average club that can be content with little, but as a club that claims to be titles - this was announced after the summer transfer campaign and the huge amount of money spent. But the results don't match the costs. It is a fact.

[Unsoldier]

On October 30, Real Madrid will play against Girona. Real Madrid has played 11 matches this season, winning 10 times and drawing 1. Girona, having played 11 matches and has 2 wins, 3 draws and 6 losses. Objectively, Real is much stronger than Girona. I bet on the victory of the Madrid club.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Barcelona weren't doing well while even Messi was having his last years there also. But at least they never dropped down to the Europa League. We just watched them qualifying from their group every time but failing after moving on in next stages for some time.

Now they can't even qualify for next round. This is the second time in a row that they are joining the Europa League after getting bad results in group games. This is completely unacceptable for a team like Barcelona. Being successful in the La Liga won't be enough for them. They couldn't perform decently in the El Clasico though but anyway. Xavi needs to find the right strategies for the Champions League. He is managing the team there like it is his first time in the Champions League. However he has a big experience with Barcelona here as a player in fact. Besides I wonder how much bad their finance will be affected after their being eliminated in the CL.

[OcTradism]

Barcelona weren't doing well while even Messi was having his last years there also. But at least they never dropped down to the Europa League. We just watched them qualifying from their group every time but failing after moving on in next stages for some time.

When Messi was at Camp Nou, they blamed everything on Messi for their defeats in La Liga and Champions League. They expected Messi to carry the club to titles and rejected to admit a fact that other players around Messi are not good enough to support him.

After the departure of Messi, in the past two season (last one and this one), they should realize that how important Messi was as well as how big contribution Messi did for them. It's too late because Messi now feels more happily in PSG and he likely is not ready to return to Barcelona and waste a few last seasons in his career.

Now they can't even qualify for next round. This is the second time in a row that they are joining the Europa League after getting bad results in group games. This is completely unacceptable for a team like Barcelona. Being successful in the La Liga won't be enough for them. They couldn't perform decently in the El Clasico though but anyway. Xavi needs to find the right strategies for the Champions League. He is managing the team there like it is his first time in the Champions League. However he has a big experience with Barcelona here as a player in fact. Besides I wonder how much bad their finance will be affected after their being eliminated in the CL.

They might not be strong enough to win Europa League too. There are some big clubs in Europa League and they can beat Barcelona for sure.

However in a long lasting league like La Liga, if they can humbly and silently collect points, they can win it. Real Madrid are stronger in La Liga too but they will waste more resource for Champions League and that can give good chance for Barcelona.

[maju69]

On October 30, Real Madrid will play against Girona. Real Madrid has played 11 matches this season, winning 10 times and drawing 1. Girona, having played 11 matches and has 2 wins, 3 draws and 6 losses. Objectively, Real is much stronger than Girona. I bet on the victory of the Madrid club.

Everyone will definitely make Real Madrid as the main favorite, especially their opponents are far behind them as a whole. Real Madrid have only lost once in all of their Champions League and La Liga matches. Girona are not a strong team in La Liga at the moment so there is no doubt that Real Madrid will win the game comfortably.

[bering]

On October 30, Real Madrid will play against Girona. Real Madrid has played 11 matches this season, winning 10 times and drawing 1. Girona, having played 11 matches and has 2 wins, 3 draws and 6 losses. Objectively, Real is much stronger than Girona. I bet on the victory of the Madrid club.

I haven't checked the odds yet but i am sure odds for Madrid will very low considering Girona is weak team even they were still struggle to avoid relegation zone but there is one interesting thing on their head to head statistics that Girona has been beat Madrid at that time on 2019 but currently is different because Madrid has stronger than 3 years ago but if want to bet probably over 2.5 goals is good for this match this because the odds for this option quite better than Madrid moneyline and i expect Real Madrid will going to win this match with 2 goals margin or more especially Girona has poor defense this season

[arimamib]

On October 30, Real Madrid will play against Girona. Real Madrid has played 11 matches this season, winning 10 times and drawing 1. Girona, having played 11 matches and has 2 wins, 3 draws and 6 losses. Objectively, Real is much stronger than Girona. I bet on the victory of the Madrid club.

I haven't checked the odds yet but i am sure odds for Madrid will very low considering Girona is weak team even they were still struggle to avoid relegation zone but there is one interesting thing on their head to head statistics that Girona has been beat Madrid at that time on 2019 but currently is different because Madrid has stronger than 3 years ago but if want to bet probably over 2.5 goals is good for this match this because the odds for this option quite better than Madrid moneyline and i expect Real Madrid will going to win this match with 2 goals margin or more especially Girona has poor defense this season

The chances of Real Madrid getting 3 points are very big because Real Madrid players will have no trouble beating Girona.
Real Madrid has always scored three goals in the last three games in La Liga, placing a bet of more than 2.5 goals is good especially when Real Madrid players are in the best form in La Liga.
I will try to make big bets for Real Madrid to win even though the odds for Madrid are very low.

[Republikcoin.com]

You don't seem to understand the problem of Barcelona. Barcelona has ideology problem and coaching problem. Barcelona team has great individual players like Lewandowski, Raphinha, Dembele, Fati, De Jong and many more that I cannot mention. They have players that can match Bayern Munich and other clubs but Xavi got it wrong. Why do you want Dembele to leave? Is Dembele the problem of Barcelona?
Barcelona has good players they need Xavi to change method.

Totally agree with changing the method for Barcelona, because the Barcelona team does have more great and young players, just because Xavi's own best method hasn't happened so far. So changing the method for a better way of playing is something that Xavi has to do for the Barcelona team, because there are many good players who can be polished well in Barcelona.

[onecall123]

There is a good match between the Barcelona players. During the game, Barcelona plays the matches with a cool head. But I noticed that they do not make any mistakes during the game, because they play a very good game in almost every match. I think Barcelona play this way.  If they can, they can do a lot more.

All Barcelona players did play well but the problem was in the defense, until now Barcelona is still having trouble managing a good guard and is still often broken by many opponents, yesterday Barcelona in the match against Bayern was very embarrassing because they had to submit 3- 0 by Bayern. Robert Lewandowski had no space to keep the ball well and struggled to score. in the previous match against Real Madrid Robert Lewandowski also did not have good space to control the ball so that it made Barcelona lose, this must be a tough evaluation for Xavi to get out of this slump.

Only three Champions League wins have been achieved by Barcelona since Messi left. Even though they signed a lot of good players, Lewandowski alone cannot sustain his success of scoring. Although they struggled in the Champions League, they put on a good display in La Liga. What are your thoughts on their chances of winning LaLiga?