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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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December 15, 2022, 02:11:46 AM
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If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad
Performances of players at their clubs and their national teams can be the same or be different. Some players have poor performances in their clubs but always play well at their national teams. In the past, we have a German player, Lukas Podoski and recently we have an English player Harry Maguire from Manchester United or Ochoa from Mexico.

These players did not make too much noise in La Liga and they suddenly have excellent performances in World Cup 2022 with Morocco. They are not bad players but not good enough to be considered as star players in La Liga.

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So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.
In the past season, Sevilla participated in La Liga competition for the trophy with two giants Real Madrid and Barcelona. They have very opposite performance in this season and when a club have a poor form, it should be responsibility of their coach and players. No single person should be responsible for it, not only Sampaoli certainly.

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December 15, 2022, 04:49:25 AM
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the laliga competition is not as interesting as it used to be when I saw it because only 2 teams looked strong compared to the other teams. if it goes on like this I think that there will be less and less fans or spectators in the Laliga and will be more inclined to watch the EPL.
Maybe it can happen, but I think there are always fans in every competition of one of the countries of the world. Messi and Ronaldo used to be an attraction, there was always drama in every season.
At this time, the arrival of Lewandowski, and several other players certainly gave a different kind of appeal. So I think La Liga will stay alive with the players that are there. That problem of dominance also occurred in Germany and some other countries. But their League is still running and entertaining some of its fans.
Lalliga is quite different from other leagues,especially when those big names that you mentioned were brought back to the league to make the tittle race competitive.It is unlike the Bundesliga league where their is only one team dominating and winning the league back to back without no other team fighting it hard with them.It makes the game of football boring.I believe Barca will really be looking at taking the Lalliga trophy again,and because of their thirst for the tittle again,they will want to add one or two more quality signings to their squad by January transfer window.
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December 15, 2022, 05:11:10 AM
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Sevilla is a team that is suitable for competing at least in the middle of the board or fighting for a ticket to the Europa League with the squad they have. I agree that maybe there is something wrong with the strategy implemented by the coach or there are internal problems that are not heard by the public so we see a significant decline from Sevilla. I honestly don't think this will happen to them this season, considering their good play last season.
Indeed. Considering their squad with some good players, they should be in the top 10 at least. And they deserve to play in Europa League because they have good players. Bono, Rakitic, Isco, Lamela, Januzaj, El Nesyri are some of the famous players in Sevilla squad. I'm surprised that although having these players, Sevilla can drop into the relegation zone. They should have no problem with squad quality, that's why I assume there is a problem with their tactic, players' mentality, or teamwork. In this situation, I think the solution is to hire a new coach as soon as posible.


Sevilla had a really bad first half of the season.

They have too much draw and then get lost consecutively as for the result they are staying at the bottom 3 which it's quite misery , one thing i believe that they would survive ... the next transfer window must be a momentum to comeback to where they belong , into the top 5 ... at least get into the mid table.
Some sevilla's player already shown good performance during the world cup. That might become a chance for sevilla to sell these players with higher price and then replace all of them with quality player or try to sign a new coach for the club.
There's no guarantee buying the new players will make sevilla can go up drastically from the relegation zone. It must be noted that if sevilla's performance was the worst.
I guess that the players didn't feel confidence with the club. Some players able to give their best performance during the world cup unlike when they were playing for sevilla.

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December 15, 2022, 06:12:20 AM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad

So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.


Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week

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December 15, 2022, 10:36:28 AM
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Actually I want to say something a little harsh about him wanting trophies because this is the thing that has to be done because if he can't then his future will be threatened at Barcelona if he can't bring one trophy.
He has gambled this season by pouring out a lot of money on player transfers so it is certain that the payment is a trophy at least one trophy or even more and when he fails then this will not be much different from the Koeman era because he will also be branded as a coach fail.
If Barcelona want to do well in La Liga, they need to make changes to their first defense line-up. Because one of the problems of the Barcelona team is the defense, that is, the defense is not always able to stop the attack of the opposing team. When Barcelona get some great defense their team will be full strength.
Looking at the current conditions, it seems that this is indeed important, but the problem is that Xavi doesn't pay much attention to this and doesn't seem to care much, even though if you look at the current conditions, Pique is not there, plus next season, the possibility of losing Alba and Busquets, they should be prepared from now on. but Xavi is only focused on their attack line, there are even rumors today that they will also bring in a striker again.

This will look lame actually when a good line of attack is not accompanied by a good line of defense, so of course the results will be a little difficult even though the best defense is to attack but we also have to be aware that an imbalance occurs for a team so it will be difficult for them to navigate the season.

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December 15, 2022, 12:16:39 PM
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Maybe the scenario won't be as complicated as we discussed. I am sure that Xavi does not work alone. there are officials, assistant coaches, and everyone is clearly involved in rebuilding Barcelona to its former glory. On the other hand, like it or not, Barcelona had to sell a number of other players and some of them ended up this season. like one of them, Busquets whose contract is about to expire. after all, he really underperformed. other names such as Jordi Alba, who has been widely rumored after Barcelona was eliminated from the Champions League.

IMO, Xavi really has a very complicated job, besides he has the burden of winning the La Liga trophy, plus the Europa League. however, I agree that Barcelona should sell some of its players and replace them with newcomers. Regarding the back line, I think they will make changes once this season rolls back up.

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December 15, 2022, 01:14:38 PM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
It is very interesting continue the discussion about Sevilla, after finishing in the top four last season, Sevilla have struggled this season and have kept them mired in the relegation zone. I'm not sure Sevilla will be able to finish in the top six this season, their poor form will continue if they don't bring in new players soon in the transfer market. Sevilla needs to spend some money to bring in players when the transfer opens to improve their performance so they can get out of the red zone.

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December 15, 2022, 01:25:34 PM
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It's a shame that a club as great as Sevilla can be below the relegation line this season. I checked the standings list and it turned out that even in the top 10 the name Sevilla was gone. Indeed, Sevilla players lack motivation in playing football and it's only a matter of time if they can't change the mindset that each player will drop to La Liga 2 next season. But I think they will be able to get up considering that the first half of the La Liga season will continue soon and they really need to get points in order to move up to a better position.
Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
If you look at the depth of Sevilla's squad, there are great names that shone at the 2022 World Cup, the best goalkeeper for Morocco at the moment, Yassine Bounou and Moroccan striker Youssef En-Nesyri, both of whom fully contributed to bringing Morocco to the semifinals. Then there is Isco, Ivan Rakitic and erik Lamela they are all great players who have played in big clubs before.

Source: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/clubs/sevilla-fc/squad

So what needs to be fixed here? It seems that this is the responsibility of coach Sampaoli who cannot take advantage of his players, if Sevilla want to move forward again they must at least get a new coach who is great at setting up a strong team strategy.


Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week
Not many Sevilla players have gone to the world cup, there are at least 3 to 4 players who have participated in the tournament. Maybe there is so much homework that they have to finish so they can come back in good form. The position of 14 in the standings last season is still fairly bad, we cannot avoid that Sevilla is the worst club in La Liga, they should be in the top 5. Whatever happens, at least they have to keep trying so as not to fall into the relegation zone.

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December 15, 2022, 01:49:22 PM
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Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week
Sevilla will be able to give a surprise after the world cup is over, if you look at Sevilla where 10 players from Sevilla played in the Qatar world cup and that was a pretty good achievement for them after Laliga resumed. a lot of games left this season and they need to be able to play consistently to get a win in order to get out of the relegation zone. as for other than that sevilla can try some good opportunities in the transfer window to buy some players who can strengthen their back line. remaining 24 matches which will be an important point for sevilla to improve their ranking in the standings table.

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December 15, 2022, 02:03:59 PM
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Starting from the era of Ronaldo and Messi the La Liga has never been as competitive as the English Premier League and neither has there been plenty clubs competing for the title. It has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona and sometimes Atletico Madrid and the likes of Sevilla who will also will be at 5th or 6th position.
Ronaldo appeared in Real Madrid for training, not with their squad but he trained with his personal coach. No confirmation that Ronaldo will join Real Madrid for rest of season and his chance is slim. Beyond reasons related to his poor form recent months, a recovery of Benzema is another reason Real Madrid might not need Ronaldo.

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I have never seen a big upset where an underdog takes them by surprise just like what happened in England with Liecester City.
In La Liga, dominations of Real Madrid and Barcelona are too big and in the past season, we have Barcelona with best ever time in their club history and Real Madrid that managed to won 5 Champions League within 10 years. Considering it and thinking about strength of Barcelona and Real Madrid, how other clubs can win La Liga.

In the past, there were some under dogs like Valencia, Deportivo La Coruna (anyone still remembered this club), Atletico Madrid a few years ago and I believe in coming two to three years, other clubs might have great chances to beat these giants. Real Madrid must reshuffle their teams with some legendary players will leave or retire. Barcelona still need more time for their young players to improve ability to carry pressure of winning titles.

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December 15, 2022, 02:10:59 PM
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Their mentally should be fixed because almost for each matches in Laliga Sevilla players looks lack of motivations to wins and as the team who finish at champion league zone last season Sevilla performance is not reflected they have decent players on their squad moreover changed manager in the middle of competitions also the main caused why Sevilla still struggle to avoid relegation zone even the current manager can't do more to lifted up Sevilla performance besides that Sevilla problem is their striker still cannot found their shape and it proven only Rafa Mir who can able to performing well

After world cup it might be will change Sevilla performance because as you can see some of Sevilla players can perdorming well on world cup so i assume they will resumes their good performance and bringing Sevilla to avoid relegation zone and there is still time to improve their position in the league standings considering that La Liga has just entered its 14th week
Sevilla will be able to give a surprise after the world cup is over, if you look at Sevilla where 10 players from Sevilla played in the Qatar world cup and that was a pretty good achievement for them after Laliga resumed. a lot of games left this season and they need to be able to play consistently to get a win in order to get out of the relegation zone. as for other than that sevilla can try some good opportunities in the transfer window to buy some players who can strengthen their back line. remaining 24 matches which will be an important point for sevilla to improve their ranking in the standings table.
I don't think this is a guarantee because in any case looking at the state their team is in right now overhauling most of the players is the right thing to do.
Even though the players they have are in the world cup, their performance as a club is clearly not something worth showing.
14 matches collecting only 11 points and being in the relegation zone is definitely a setback for Sevilla and they need to make real changes both in scheme and players.

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December 15, 2022, 02:11:13 PM
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Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
There is still time for Sevilla to fight and get out of the relegation zone. After all, the distance between Sevilla's points and 15th place in the current standings is not that far, so it is still very possible for Sevilla to fight well and get out of the bad zone. In conclusion, for now it is still not worth assessing whether or not Sevilla will qualify for the next match, because in general there is still a lot of time for each team that wants to improve their performance in the next match this season.
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December 15, 2022, 02:30:05 PM
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Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
There is still time for Sevilla to fight and get out of the relegation zone. After all, the distance between Sevilla's points and 15th place in the current standings is not that far, so it is still very possible for Sevilla to fight well and get out of the bad zone. In conclusion, for now it is still not worth assessing whether or not Sevilla will qualify for the next match, because in general there is still a lot of time for each team that wants to improve their performance in the next match this season.
Undoubtedly, Sevilla are lagging behind Barcelona. Barcelona have a great combination of team, most of the players in the team are young players who have been performing well with great tactics. Besides, the condition of the team has changed drastically after the team coach Xavi joined the team.

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December 15, 2022, 02:53:22 PM
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That's true, also i don't really think that Barcelona will focus on the Europa league because it's not an important trophy for a club like Barcelona, real Madrid club used to have such situations so i don't think this will be a problem for them, i expecte that the battle for the trophy will not be easy for both teams and yes la Liga is really very hard to predict right now
The Europa League trophy doesn't really matter, do you believe what you just said..?
I think he was right about that. I meant even laporta itself has complained about the income that will be getting barcelona will be far less compared when barcelona would still play at the champion league. The problem caused by barcelona was playing in the europa league caused by it was getting degrade due to the unable to be qualified in the group qualifier. I think that you shall also watch what laporta said about that. He has been writing his disappointment with the result from barcelona that has gone to the europa league. You should read what already said by laporta. Barcelona was still in financial crisis and any potential income would be far important rather than trophy

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December 15, 2022, 03:38:14 PM
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Sevilla are in the bottom three and that keeps them from qualifying for the next match. At least this should be a lesson for the Sevilla coach so they can learn and try to improve the quality of their game and get another chance to return to the top 10 next season.
There is still time for Sevilla to fight and get out of the relegation zone. After all, the distance between Sevilla's points and 15th place in the current standings is not that far, so it is still very possible for Sevilla to fight well and get out of the bad zone. In conclusion, for now it is still not worth assessing whether or not Sevilla will qualify for the next match, because in general there is still a lot of time for each team that wants to improve their performance in the next match this season.
Yes, it is true that there is still plenty of time for Sevilla to improve their current position, but of course they must move quickly and improve their performance. The efforts they have to make are not easy because they have to compete with other teams who are also definitely targeting a place to remain in the top competition in Spain. They don't have to think about anything else now other than focusing on getting out of this horrible zone.

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December 15, 2022, 03:48:49 PM
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There is still time for Sevilla to fight and get out of the relegation zone. After all, the distance between Sevilla's points and 15th place in the current standings is not that far, so it is still very possible for Sevilla to fight well and get out of the bad zone. In conclusion, for now it is still not worth assessing whether or not Sevilla will qualify for the next match, because in general there is still a lot of time for each team that wants to improve their performance in the next match this season.
Yes, it is true that there is still plenty of time for Sevilla to improve their current position, but of course they must move quickly and improve their performance. The efforts they have to make are not easy because they have to compete with other teams who are also definitely targeting a place to remain in the top competition in Spain. They don't have to think about anything else now other than focusing on getting out of this horrible zone.
It's not difficult for Sevilla to do this, the player material that Sevilla has is very well established, moreover La Liga still has a lot of matches left. What Sevilla needs to do is find a suitable strategy for the next match, bringing in several players in the January transfer market must also be prioritized.
The Sevilla coach must immediately find a suitable strategy to revive the enthusiasm of the Sevilla players in order to get out of the relegation zone. Sevilla must learn from Manchester United, when they were at the bottom of the standings Manchester United was able to rise with the arrival of a tactician and several new players.


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December 15, 2022, 03:59:28 PM
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That's true, also i don't really think that Barcelona will focus on the Europa league because it's not an important trophy for a club like Barcelona, real Madrid club used to have such situations so i don't think this will be a problem for them, i expecte that the battle for the trophy will not be easy for both teams and yes la Liga is really very hard to predict right now
The Europa League trophy doesn't really matter, do you believe what you just said..?
I think he was right about that. I meant even laporta itself has complained about the income that will be getting barcelona will be far less compared when barcelona would still play at the champion league. The problem caused by barcelona was playing in the europa league caused by it was getting degrade due to the unable to be qualified in the group qualifier. I think that you shall also watch what laporta said about that. He has been writing his disappointment with the result from barcelona that has gone to the europa league. You should read what already said by laporta. Barcelona was still in financial crisis and any potential income would be far important rather than trophy

But you should also be able to realize that football is not only about income, because trophies in football are still the main thing. If you play football only to pursue the highest achievements then you are wrong, because no team can win the highest title every season.
Therefore, every team must be aware of the capabilities of their own team, if they only have the chance to be able to get a lower trophy then there's nothing wrong with being their main target as another option.

Because to restore a team's income, it's clear they have to be able to get one trophy every season. So, the Europa League remains an important trophy that Barcelona must get rather than nothing.
It's funny to say or assume the Europa League trophy doesn't matter because after all, every trophy is important and if they don't get it they are still seen as underperforming and failing to capture the revenue that might also come from sponsors.

In essence, if a team feels unimportant in playing in a certain tournament, then they can go and let their opponent walk out (WO) to win, does Barcelona dare to do that?
If Barcelona thinks the Europa League is not important, then let the opposing team win and Barcelona don't need to come to the field or don't need to come to the match, and at least that way Barcelona doesn't need to spend money.

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December 15, 2022, 04:24:02 PM
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That's true, also i don't really think that Barcelona will focus on the Europa league because it's not an important trophy for a club like Barcelona, real Madrid club used to have such situations so i don't think this will be a problem for them, i expecte that the battle for the trophy will not be easy for both teams and yes la Liga is really very hard to predict right now
The Europa League trophy doesn't really matter, do you believe what you just said..?
I think he was right about that. I meant even laporta itself has complained about the income that will be getting barcelona will be far less compared when barcelona would still play at the champion league. The problem caused by barcelona was playing in the europa league caused by it was getting degrade due to the unable to be qualified in the group qualifier. I think that you shall also watch what laporta said about that. He has been writing his disappointment with the result from barcelona that has gone to the europa league. You should read what already said by laporta. Barcelona was still in financial crisis and any potential income would be far important rather than trophy
As a team leader, who wouldn't be disappointed to see his team thrown into the second tier of this competition in Europe. Likewise with Laporta, he will definitely regret it when Barcelona has to be eliminated from the Champions League. But that doesn't mean that in the Europa League they won't maximize it, because it will be very detrimental when they lose everything, right? So I think whether this Europa League is important or not for Barcelona, they have to do their best.

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December 15, 2022, 04:34:30 PM
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I think that Ancelotti is pleased with the quality of the squad right now. I don't know about if he would like an increase in alternative players for specific positions in January. But the general quality of the starting eleven players must be satisfying for Ancelotti. They have done a pretty good job so far in the La Liga and Champions League. Maybe they stumbled in some of the La Liga matches lately but they are still very close to Barcelona in the standings. The group stage in the CL was already very good for them.

I'd like to remind you of how successful they were with a squad like this last season. They have the potential to repeat it but their job won't be easy for certain. Benzema is recovering from his injury also. Therefore they would be more confident in the attacking line as of now. I don't expect any move from them to sign a top striker at least until the end of the season.

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December 15, 2022, 04:42:14 PM
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In La Liga, dominations of Real Madrid and Barcelona are too big and in the past season, we have Barcelona with best ever time in their club history and Real Madrid that managed to won 5 Champions League within 10 years. Considering it and thinking about strength of Barcelona and Real Madrid, how other clubs can win La Liga.

In the past, there were some under dogs like Valencia, Deportivo La Coruna (anyone still remembered this club), Atletico Madrid a few years ago and I believe in coming two to three years, other clubs might have great chances to beat these giants. Real Madrid must reshuffle their teams with some legendary players will leave or retire. Barcelona still need more time for their young players to improve ability to carry pressure of winning titles.
Regarding consistency performance from Barcelona in this season and managed first standing behind 2 point with Real Madrid, ever have bad moment for Barcelona after missing last three season without La Liga tittle. I don't think what happen if Barcelona can't consistency after World Cup over because last time La Liga tittle got in 2018/2019 season and become fourth years in a row Barcelona failed to be champion in La Liga.

Last three season, La Liga dominance by Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid, I don't think with Barcelona can consistency until at the end this season because have bad habit and loss when facing with big team. Barcelona winning dominance again with small team and this season have beaten by Real Madrid in el clasico match.

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