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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734778 times)
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May 13, 2014, 07:00:06 AM
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Looks like Pagan has come into office and started his working day  Grin Tongue
You can set your clock by him, and judge the importance of the day that passed by the density and aggressiveness of his posts.

And it seems Pagan has punched his card off on his way out of the office for today. Judging by the working hours, he's in US.

Reposting this, that got pushed out:
Kiev lets loose 'Men in Black' death squads on East Ukrainian civilians
http://www.sott.net/article/278894-Kiev-lets-loose-Men-in-Black-Death-Squads-on-East-Ukrainian-Civilians


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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 13, 2014, 07:11:59 AM
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In a week from now it will be 70 years ago that the Crimean tatar people was forcibly deported from the Crimea by Iosif Stalin for alleged collaboration with the Nazis. One of those deported is their current leader, Mustafa Cemilev. He served 17 years in camps for fighting for the return of his people.

Even though they were rehabilitated, it lasted until the last years of the Soviet Union that the Crimean Tatars were allowed to return to their homeland. Now they are again under threat. Cemilev has been banned from the Crimea, their parliament the Meclis is under threat of being banned because of "extremism". Thousands of Crimean tatars have been forced to flee to mainland Ukraine, and persecution of Crimean tatar activists has become a daily occurrence.

To make things even worse the authorities now refuse to allow a commemorative meeting on May 18, the day of deportation.

http://inforesist.org/okkupacionnaya-vlast-ne-daet-razreshenie-krymskim-tataram-na-miting-v-den-deportacii/
dude the way you post here... you should get some treatment... this aint normal
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May 13, 2014, 07:13:34 AM
Last edit: May 13, 2014, 07:30:26 AM by Nemo1024
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minime, he's in most, if not everybody's ignore list here.



Ah, I said yesterday, that the third option for Russia would be to wait for the Ukrainian presidential election, then talk to the legitimate government. Might be that the political analysts in Kremlin came to the same idea and are procrastinating...

Moscow in no rush to respond to Donetsk People's Republic plea for accession
http://rt.com/op-edge/158528-russia-response-ukraine-donetsk/

Lots of interesting quotes from political experts in that article... I'll indulge quoting one. Smiley

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Sleboda stated that when examining Donetsk and Lugansk referendums, one must pay attention to three things. “One, the extremely large turnout, which is nearly impossible to deny. The overwhelming landslide victory – since the vote was essentially public with the glass ballot boxes and the Western journalists who served in place of international monitors, we could say, who clearly informally polled on the ground the strength of support for the independence vote.”

“And three, we have to remember that this did indeed happen under the barrel of a gun – but not the barrel of the gun of the self-defense forces, but under the barrel of the gun of this Kiev regime who was actually killing voters as they tried to vote against it on the referendum day,” he argued.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 13, 2014, 07:33:26 AM
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minime, he's in most, if not everybody's ignore list here.



Ah, I said yesterday, that the third option for Russia would be to wait for the Ukrainian presidential election, then talk to the legitimate government. Might be that the political analysts in Kremlin came to the same idea and are procrastinating...

Moscow in no rush to respond to Donetsk People's Republic plea for accession
http://rt.com/op-edge/158528-russia-response-ukraine-donetsk/

Lots of interesting quotes from political experts in that article... I'll indulge quoting one. Smiley

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Sleboda stated that when examining Donetsk and Lugansk referendums, one must pay attention to three things. “One, the extremely large turnout, which is nearly impossible to deny. The overwhelming landslide victory – since the vote was essentially public with the glass ballot boxes and the Western journalists who served in place of international monitors, we could say, who clearly informally polled on the ground the strength of support for the independence vote.”

“And three, we have to remember that this did indeed happen under the barrel of a gun – but not the barrel of the gun of the self-defense forces, but under the barrel of the gun of this Kiev regime who was actually killing voters as they tried to vote against it on the referendum day,” he argued.

i like to stay objective... so i do not ignore...
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May 13, 2014, 07:51:01 AM
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minime, he's in most, if not everybody's ignore list here.

i like to stay objective... so i do not ignore...

That's fine, but by "everybody", I meant that some of the guys here, who do not agree with me and my views also have Pagan on ignore. Telling, eh?

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 13, 2014, 10:22:34 AM
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minime, he's in most, if not everybody's ignore list here.

i like to stay objective... so i do not ignore...

That's fine, but by "everybody", I meant that some of the guys here, who do not agree with me and my views also have Pagan on ignore. Telling, eh?
silence... much easier than adding him to ignore list..
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May 13, 2014, 12:15:48 PM
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There was an assassination attempt on the governor of People Republic of Lugansk. He is in hospital.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/375992
In Lugansk they describe it as "Kiev's response to the referendum".

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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May 13, 2014, 12:35:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SaUNFlvBvw

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May 13, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
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Donetsk People's Republic bans Obama, Merkel, Ashton, Cameron from entry:



Donetsk celebrates newly-claimed independence from Kiev with fireworks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kyPAZzAYf4
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May 13, 2014, 05:35:44 PM
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Bcтaнь нa cтopoнy пpaвды! / Join the Truth Side!

A video, that briefly shows all the essence of ukrainian politicians and mass media. It shows an independence referendum, that took part in East Ukraine at 11 of May 2014. How Ukrainian mass media showed it, and how it really was!

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May 13, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
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Ukrainian army resumed its assault on People's Republic of Donetsk, near Kramatorsk:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/13/btr/

Six Ukrainian army servicemen are dead during fighting near Kramatorsk with eight wounded:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/376028

The People's Republic of Donetsk proclaimed founding of its own regular army:
http://ria.ru/world/20140513/1007649410.html

Self-defence forces said they will lay down weapons once Ukraine withdraws its forces from the Republic:
http://ria.ru/world/20140513/1007653930.html



Ukrainian media report that Jaguar special ops destroyed 54 fighters of the Donetsk self-defence force near Slavjansk, despite being surrounded, shelled and shot at by snipers.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/13/n_6149685.shtml

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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May 14, 2014, 03:56:46 AM
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From Graham W Phillips:

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May 14, 2014, 07:10:43 AM
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Kiev military unit shoots at Russian journalists after fight near Kramatorsk
http://rt.com/news/158760-ukraine-military-russian-journalists/

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“We saw that machines were gone and the shooting stopped like half-an-hour ago. We tried to enter the premises of the village to find out what happened to locals, if they needed help, and if there were wounded among them,” reporter Oleg Sidyakin told RT. “But as we got closer to the outskirts of the village, we ran into an armored troop carrier with a Ukrainian flag on it and armed people in black uniforms. We were going in a car with 'TV' stickers, indicating that were are press. We stuck hands out of windows, but first there came one shot and then machine gun fire.”

Those black uniforms... Reminds me of this article:

http://www.sott.net/article/278894-Kiev-lets-loose-Men-in-Black-Death-Squads-on-East-Ukrainian-Civilians

I see Ukraine still attacks the young neighbouring state...

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Fighting between Kiev’s army and local self-defense groups broke out in the afternoon near Oktyabrskoe.

“It was around noon. The Ukrainian army was taking ammunitions to the city of Kramatorsk,” local resident Vladimir told RT, citing his friend Aleksandr, who lives nearby. “There is the village of Oktyabrskoe, where there is a bridge [on the way]. Our self-defense blew up a vehicle with ammunition and set Kiev’s APC on fire,” he said.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 14, 2014, 07:35:36 AM
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BBC going ballistic over the deaths of 6 Right Sector activists in Karamtorsk. Still, the shameless thugs don't even mention about the 50 or more civilians who were killed by the neo-Nazis there.

Ukraine crisis: May election 'will play crucial role'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27386838#TWEET1127681
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May 14, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
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Self-defence forces in Slavjansk say they intend to switch from defensive to offensive tactics.
http://ria.ru/world/20140514/1007737964.html

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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May 14, 2014, 01:33:40 PM
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...
Six Ukrainian army servicemen are dead during fighting near Kramatorsk with eight wounded:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/376028
...

quote of CNN headline:
6 SOLDIERS KILLED IN AMBUSH

Six members of the Ukrainian armed forces were killed on Tuesday in a
"terrorist attack," the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said in a statement on its
website.

testing Smiley
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May 14, 2014, 01:33:49 PM
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Self-defence forces in Slavjansk say they intend to switch from defensive to offensive tactics.
http://ria.ru/world/20140514/1007737964.html

Seems like their patience had run out finally.

Meanwhile, military base in Donetsk is reported to be under the control of anti Kiev forces wearing Ukrainian uniforms.

And the Germans don't know which side they are on, exactly.  Grin

Kiev regime spurns German foreign minister’s call for “round table” talks with pro-Russian separatists

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/05/14/ukra-m14.html
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May 14, 2014, 01:42:26 PM
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what do you say of this view of CNN ?
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/05/11/cnni-shubert-pkg-double-voting-ukraine.cnn-international.html

testing Smiley
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First I would say "f*** video ads"

Secondary , You'll be labeled as a fascist and send to the ignore list pretty soon Smiley.


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May 14, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Last edit: May 14, 2014, 03:58:26 PM by qosmio
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I know in fact that CNN stage a lot of "news" just like hollywood with someone behind camera saying "action" and "push down the civilians!" with staged backgrounds and paid actors maybe this one I posted is also staged ?
they claim double voting and enter several votes per person and this CNN clip even shows this. I cant believe that voters would do this in front of camera!

testing Smiley
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