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August 06, 2022, 09:18:31 PM
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I have met with someone who won 6 million dollars from another place, which I will not name, and didn't do a bit of KYC at all, from 300k to 6 million so he wasn't poor to begin with, all the points for a money laundering but it wasn't asked. So, do not defend it with just money, this place asks it even before you start.
Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates).

Just speculating here, but I'd say probably not. From my experience i can assure that many an anonymous bitcoin casino exists, no matter their business type. I bet it will be useful to add a list of trusted places here that don't require KYC from their users.

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August 07, 2022, 04:01:02 PM
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Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates).
The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do.
This isn't true. There are many anonymous crypto casinos out there that don't require KYC at any point of time and I can attest to that thanks to my experience with some of them over the years.

Some of these sites never ask for KYC even if you won a million bucks(Unless you cheated) while some others force customers to provide KYC in order to retrieve their winnings.

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August 07, 2022, 04:33:56 PM
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Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates).
The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do.
This isn't true. There are many anonymous crypto casinos out there that don't require KYC at any point of time and I can attest to that thanks to my experience with some of them over the years.

Some of these sites never ask for KYC even if you won a million bucks(Unless you cheated) while some others force customers to provide KYC in order to retrieve their winnings.
I agree. They casinos will require you to pass some KYC documents when you cheated, or if your transactions on the casino including the deposits, withdrawal, and any bets are heavily suspicious. I do not know exactly how can the track it but I believe they have the tools that are needed for that matter.
Some casino even not regulated forced you to pass a KYC in order for you to be able to withdraw.

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August 07, 2022, 05:07:04 PM
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Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates).
The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do.
This isn't true. There are many anonymous crypto casinos out there that don't require KYC at any point of time and I can attest to that thanks to my experience with some of them over the years.

Some of these sites never ask for KYC even if you won a million bucks(Unless you cheated) while some others force customers to provide KYC in order to retrieve their winnings.
I agree. They casinos will require you to pass some KYC documents when you cheated, or if your transactions on the casino including the deposits, withdrawal, and any bets are heavily suspicious. I do not know exactly how can the track it but I believe they have the tools that are needed for that matter.
Some casino even not regulated forced you to pass a KYC in order for you to be able to withdraw.
Apart from the regulations every casino has their own terms and conditions on that most of the casinos mention about the KYC requirements if its required by the casino for any reason and who can't able to pass may not be able to withdraw their funds the reason of such actions can be anything but what they claim is for AML and we also agreed to their terms so we have to pass KYC at any time even if there is no mandatory KYC.

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August 07, 2022, 05:34:04 PM
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kyc is still a big problem in the crypto world, which interferes with our personal documents. If we do kyc in scam project then there remains the possibility of our personal documents being sold in black market. so we should careful to do kyc on any crypto website

For players perspective, it can be a big problem but still it depends on our own preferences.
If you are worrying about document illegal sales, it may happen in any website/online service (not only crypto)
I was at the same thought as you few years back, but I'm fine now with KYC as long as I trust the website.
If you are so worrying about document sales, do not even use any online service including once your government ask you to submit document in their website.

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August 07, 2022, 06:44:31 PM
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I agree. They casinos will require you to pass some KYC documents when you cheated, or if your transactions on the casino including the deposits, withdrawal, and any bets are heavily suspicious.
Whether KYC will be required for suspected users but I'm not sure the casino does that, so the team followed the terms and conditions unless changed to require KYC for all users.

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The team can track if they find cheated activity that harms the casino due to the highest wins in each game, they also track your activity history with details including your deposit and withdrawal addresses to prevent money laundering and other activities that violate the terms and conditions.


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August 07, 2022, 07:44:06 PM
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I have met with someone who won 6 million dollars from another place, which I will not name, and didn't do a bit of KYC at all, from 300k to 6 million so he wasn't poor to begin with, all the points for a money laundering but it wasn't asked. So, do not defend it with just money, this place asks it even before you start.
Sorry to ask, but is this other place (I assume it's a casino) licensed!? Because as far as I know any regulated and licensed business has to declare and report transactions above a certain threshold (depending on the license provider and the county where the casino operates).
The good thing about Roobet, though, is that they ask for kyc (level-1) from the moment you create an account and don't wait till you make a withdrawal request as many other casinos do.

I believe all this discussion about kyc is futile and won't change anything. So if someone isn't OK with verifying his identity then simply play on casinos which do not ask for it.

I'm sorry for my ignorance, but who do casinos even report on these high transactions? From what I see the countries that issue the licenses don't even have time to look at every transaction of a online casino, so I wonder what is the purpose of KYC if the owner of the casino is anonymous and also the casino has no headquarters? In the real world casinos have to pay tax and are constantly supervised by a specific government agency, so it makes sense for them to ask for documents when a person makes a withdrawal. but in the case of online casinos I think that governments or whoever is forcing online casinos to demand KYC from their customers is not doing the right thing... it would only make sense if the person made a large deposit and then withdrawn the deposit, in which case it could be suspected of money laundering so it would make sense to ask for KYC because if that person is involved in the theft of coins then the casino could hand over his data to the police. but to demand that someone who has made a deposit of 100$ or even 1000$ or 1 million dollars and throws everything and loses and is left with only 10,000$ but then wins 2 million dollars but at the time of withdraw having to do KYC? that doesn't make any sense. in what part of this would it be suspected of money laundering?

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August 07, 2022, 08:45:40 PM
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I'm sorry for my ignorance, but who do casinos even report on these high transactions? From what I see the countries that issue the licenses don't even have time to look at every transaction of a online casino, so I wonder what is the purpose of KYC if the owner of the casino is anonymous and also the casino has no headquarters? In the real world casinos have to pay tax and are constantly supervised by a specific government agency, so it makes sense for them to ask for documents when a person makes a withdrawal. but in the case of online casinos I think that governments or whoever is forcing online casinos to demand KYC from their customers is not doing the right thing... it would only make sense if the person made a large deposit and then withdrawn the deposit, in which case it could be suspected of money laundering so it would make sense to ask for KYC because if that person is involved in the theft of coins then the casino could hand over his data to the police. but to demand that someone who has made a deposit of 100$ or even 1000$ or 1 million dollars and throws everything and loses and is left with only 10,000$ but then wins 2 million dollars but at the time of withdraw having to do KYC? that doesn't make any sense. in what part of this would it be suspected of money laundering?

That money used for deposit maybe  Tongue.  Anyway, everything is suspected until they break certain thresholds but in your case, the KYC requirement must be because of possible fraudulent activity such as cheating or exploiting glitches suspicion, there will be some investigation but of course, if proven clean, the withdrawals will be released.   That is just an assumption but thinking deeper, it is possible because the casino (not Roobet of course) is delaying the payment because they don't have the fund to pay out for it.  That is the common leeway to delay payments and trigger an "investigation" and requires KYC, which needs time to delay the payment of the user.

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August 08, 2022, 01:40:38 AM
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People who are doing illegal things will not be bothered by the fact that some casino is asking KYC, its really not their biggest problem. There are a ton of them who doesn't and if they want to straight up gamble or use it to launder their money, they totally could do that without the KYC part of roobet and wouldn't be sad about it. However regular people who are bothered by it will be subjected to it as well and thats the type of people that they bother with KYC, because regular people who have absolutely nothing to do with laundering will have to do it. I do not see how that is fair when you look at all those casinos without KYC requirement at all.
If players have objections to KYC can look for other casinos that don't implement it at all but will probably face a lot of things that are also unpleasant for the player, yes it does seem unfair that normal/good players should face the same thing as players who may have bad intentions but that's the rules will be applied evenly.

There are some casino sites which require identity verification, but here Nirbata has done it. There will be no problem on the account. Later, if there is any problem on the account, everything will be fixed through the case. But what has been done to verify a person?  Here withdrawal is very important if you can do it in your account then there will be no problem to withdraw money and if not you will face problem.



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August 08, 2022, 05:11:41 PM
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unfortunately kyc is almost useless since people can find ways to fake it,
there's people who buy data in the darknet and others who pay someone else to submit documents and photo verification instead of them.
Not with live interviews.  A higher level of KYC verification involves video calls to know if the person submitting the documents is really the owner.  This way your stated strategy will be nullified.  As one of the replies here stated, if anyone doesn't want to undergo KYC, he can just look for another Casino that does not require KYC verification, no need to make a big deal out of it.
I once did that last year for a project I was part of, I was working with them and it was a small team and they wanted to do KYC in a company to make sure that people know the team was legit.

It wasn't anything big, something like 2 minutes max, probably not even that much, they just asked a few questions which was like what is your name, what’s your birthday etc etc like to see if I know the answers to the forms I already sent and the ID, and I replied and it was fully correct and I was fine. That’s what I cared about, I know for a fact that there isn't any wrong in there because it's literally me; but to give this much information online? That was a horrible feeling for sure.

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I disagree with the "if you win a big amount you will have to do it" but at the same time not all of us play with huge amounts so I do not have to do it. If I wager with 50 bucks, there isn't a situation where I have like 50k to withdraw, that would be insane, the biggest I got from 50 bucks was 1200 and that wasn't a problem and they didn't ask my KYC at all, thats under the radar amount for sure. This is why if you are a person who wagers millions, yeah go ahead and do your KYC, but if you are like me, and you are forced to do your KYC for no reason at all, thats not going to make you feel any better at all.

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August 08, 2022, 08:18:20 PM
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I disagree with the "if you win a big amount you will have to do it" but at the same time not all of us play with huge amounts so I do not have to do it. If I wager with 50 bucks, there isn't a situation where I have like 50k to withdraw, that would be insane, the biggest I got from 50 bucks was 1200 and that wasn't a problem and they didn't ask my KYC at all, thats under the radar amount for sure. This is why if you are a person who wagers millions, yeah go ahead and do your KYC, but if you are like me, and you are forced to do your KYC for no reason at all, thats not going to make you feel any better at all.
Never anticipate that you won hundreds of thousands out of 50 bucks but its not impossible considering odds and chances but we should stick on being realistic because you would really be needing all

luck in the world for you to able to hit or win like that thats why you shouldnt really that anticipate that you would win up that way.Each gambler is really that different when it comes to financial
capacity thats why it would really vary.

For KYC matters then it would be no surprise that whale players do undergo into such process when it comes to verification which is something a standard thing
when it comes to this one.

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kyc is still a big problem in the crypto world, which interferes with our personal documents. If we do kyc in scam project then there remains the possibility of our personal documents being sold in black market. so we should careful to do kyc on any crypto website
Even the legit services are hard to trust in these KYC matters because they store these data with some third party software where privacy breach can happen anytime or they could sell your data on dark web using it for illicit works so how do you remain anonymous in this market is what makes you safe.

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August 09, 2022, 12:56:42 PM
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Even the legit services are hard to trust in these KYC matters because they store these data with some third party software where privacy breach can happen anytime or they could sell your data on dark web using it for illicit works so how do you remain anonymous in this market is what makes you safe.
Not all legitimate services cannot be trusted to maintain data privacy so we should not be pessimistic about this and assume all legitimate services cannot be trusted. I'm sure the casino partners with reputable legitimate services to keep customer data safe and not use it for anything prohibited.


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There are some casino sites which require identity verification, but here Nirbata has done it. There will be no problem on the account. Later, if there is any problem on the account, everything will be fixed through the case. But what has been done to verify a person?  Here withdrawal is very important if you can do it in your account then there will be no problem to withdraw money and if not you will face problem.
That's the case for many places. I mean there are other places that do not ask for KYC at all, which means that we are talking about places that will withdraw your money without a problem and yet do not need to see your ID for it at all.

Roobet has done something so radical that they have been getting a terrible response for it for the past 1 year, and if something has gone this long and not reverting back took this long, then I believe that it's just straight up bad for them. They still have a lot of customers anyway, so let the people like me talk what they want to talk, not like it's going to make it a bad place, people who are fine will go on playing without a trouble anyway.

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August 09, 2022, 09:29:18 PM
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Even the legit services are hard to trust in these KYC matters because they store these data with some third party software where privacy breach can happen anytime or they could sell your data on dark web using it for illicit works so how do you remain anonymous in this market is what makes you safe.
Not all legitimate services cannot be trusted to maintain data privacy so we should not be pessimistic about this and assume all legitimate services cannot be trusted. I'm sure the casino partners with reputable legitimate services to keep customer data safe and not use it for anything prohibited.
We actually don’t know if our data is secure or not because even big companies are exposing our details just for the purpose of promotions. We just hope that Roobet is really safe and we are hoping that this KYC requirement can still be change. Crypto gambling is slowly becoming KYC mandatory but we should not worry that much as long as we secured our personal accounts, we are still safe. If you are not ok with Roobet policy, then try to look for other option that is still KYC free, for sure there’s still a site that will allow you to remain anonymous.

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August 09, 2022, 09:30:25 PM
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I also think that kyc verification is very important think for a casino to decrease cheater activity and scamer . But by kyc many casino were stealing users data and getting profit by selling data . I also think kyc verification somewhat undermines the original purpose of cryptocurrency and, I also think  it also decrease the users privacy.

unfortunately kyc is almost useless since people can find ways to fake it,
there's people who buy data in the darknet and others who pay someone else to submit documents and photo verification instead of them.

Not with live interviews.  A higher level of KYC verification involves video calls to know if the person submitting the documents is really the owner.  This way your stated strategy will be nullified.  As one of the replies here stated, if anyone doesn't want to undergo KYC, he can just look for another Casino that does not require KYC verification, no need to make a big deal out of it.

I agree that it's not a big deal to opt-out and use websites that have no KYC for those who don't want to go through it
but live interviews can also be faked if somebody chooses to pay for someone else to do it for them...
seems like no system is fail proof.

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August 09, 2022, 09:50:35 PM
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Even the legit services are hard to trust in these KYC matters because they store these data with some third party software where privacy breach can happen anytime or they could sell your data on dark web using it for illicit works so how do you remain anonymous in this market is what makes you safe.
Not all legitimate services cannot be trusted to maintain data privacy so we should not be pessimistic about this and assume all legitimate services cannot be trusted. I'm sure the casino partners with reputable legitimate services to keep customer data safe and not use it for anything prohibited.
We actually don’t know if our data is secure or not because even big companies are exposing our details just for the purpose of promotions. We just hope that Roobet is really safe and we are hoping that this KYC requirement can still be change. Crypto gambling is slowly becoming KYC mandatory but we should not worry that much as long as we secured our personal accounts, we are still safe. If you are not ok with Roobet policy, then try to look for other option that is still KYC free, for sure there’s still a site that will allow you to remain anonymous.

Even if we go on non KYC compliant casino still for sure they will go on this situation in long run so better accept what Roobet require for now because for sure in the long run all casino will implement this requirements in future. Roobet is reputable casino so for sure they will make sure to protect the identity of their costumer because they also building up the trust and this one is convertible to more costumers if they establish that they are good on many factors especially on important details like this.

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August 09, 2022, 11:24:56 PM
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Even the legit services are hard to trust in these KYC matters because they store these data with some third party software where privacy breach can happen anytime or they could sell your data on dark web using it for illicit works so how do you remain anonymous in this market is what makes you safe.
Not all legitimate services cannot be trusted to maintain data privacy so we should not be pessimistic about this and assume all legitimate services cannot be trusted. I'm sure the casino partners with reputable legitimate services to keep customer data safe and not use it for anything prohibited.
We actually don’t know if our data is secure or not because even big companies are exposing our details just for the purpose of promotions. We just hope that Roobet is really safe and we are hoping that this KYC requirement can still be change. Crypto gambling is slowly becoming KYC mandatory but we should not worry that much as long as we secured our personal accounts, we are still safe. If you are not ok with Roobet policy, then try to look for other option that is still KYC free, for sure there’s still a site that will allow you to remain anonymous.

Even if we go on non KYC compliant casino still for sure they will go on this situation in long run so better accept what Roobet require for now because for sure in the long run all casino will implement this requirements in future. Roobet is reputable casino so for sure they will make sure to protect the identity of their costumer because they also building up the trust and this one is convertible to more costumers if they establish that they are good on many factors especially on important details like this.
If you are a die hard Roobet user or gambler then this level 1 KYC wont really be a bothersome for you although you could always put up fake details but of course you do know the risk involved
on doing so but if you are a gambler who do only make out small time deposits or not that much then it wont really be an issue.Majority of gambling casinos that we do have today is regulated
or abiding government laws which means that anytime they could ask out for some verification and this is mostly been stated on their terms and conditions which is common
and you should expect that anytime they could really switch into this.

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August 10, 2022, 01:18:36 AM
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Even the legit services are hard to trust in these KYC matters because they store these data with some third party software where privacy breach can happen anytime or they could sell your data on dark web using it for illicit works so how do you remain anonymous in this market is what makes you safe.
Not all legitimate services cannot be trusted to maintain data privacy so we should not be pessimistic about this and assume all legitimate services cannot be trusted. I'm sure the casino partners with reputable legitimate services to keep customer data safe and not use it for anything prohibited.
We actually don’t know if our data is secure or not because even big companies are exposing our details just for the purpose of promotions. We just hope that Roobet is really safe and we are hoping that this KYC requirement can still be change. Crypto gambling is slowly becoming KYC mandatory but we should not worry that much as long as we secured our personal accounts, we are still safe. If you are not ok with Roobet policy, then try to look for other option that is still KYC free, for sure there’s still a site that will allow you to remain anonymous.
I dont think the level 1 kyc of Roobet is a big deal since its just a basic info and if someone is really bothered by it then they can always switch to other casino who doesnt require kyc even you're just an average gambler. But this issue about Roobet kyc have been discussed since the day it was implemented, I think regular gamblers already embrace that fact. Nowadays its quite common for a casino to require their players to comply in kyc (specially the whale gamblers) because of the gambling regulatory law thus we should not be surprise if we are ask to abide.

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