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[l3pox]

curious if we'll ever see other kinds of medium on roobet's contests
we don't see a lot of 3D submissions, or even things related to NFTs
maybe the best art could be minted on the eth blockchain and given as a prize on a gambling game
many ideas

This is art submission contest and you can submit any type of art and if you look on all entries then you find some 3D models in blender with Mr Roo or some other design concept but not at professional level and most of winning one's are hand drawn/digital painting/hand crafted items and some other in most of art contest.But if you say about the NFT then it's also jpeg image on blockchain and you just need to submit it as entry only so no need to have NFT in this matter.

I think that if you submit a Generated 3D Art, I think it won't have a chance winning on the roobet tournament especially if the 3d Art generator is open in public. You will have a chance if the generator you have is made by yourself and entirely made for winning the roobet tournament. I believe that judges is considering the hardwork and efforts of those artist so submitting a common generated art even if it's 3d won't stand a chance against hand drawn arts. 

Are you kidding me? This does not even qualify for an entry mate because that’s not this competition is about. Just simple rules, draw/sketch/make with your hands and imagination which definitely states that it does not have to be imagined by AI art generator.

I’m so scared with this AI thing now. Is it going to eat our jobs as an artist or what?

All I can explain is, its human participation and no AI should be part of it.

I bet even you do art with it then there are artist who will have arts 100x better than AI one. That’s what Roobet competition is all about: True Artist.

don't be scared, artists will always be able to reinvent themselves in a creative way

I do agree that AI art and "handmade" or "digital but made by humans" shouldn't run on the same category of contest

but since it's so new we'll still see lots of discussions about it.

[Eureka_07]

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I’m so scared with this AI thing now. Is it going to eat our jobs as an artist or what?

All I can explain is, its human participation and no AI should be part of it.

I bet even you do art with it then there are artist who will have arts 100x better than AI one. That’s what Roobet competition is all about: True Artist.

I think you need to calm down. I don't think this has a significant  effect with the artwork industry which are not AI generated. It could just maybe became a new form of art.
For now, I would agree that AI generated artworks should not be on the current competition as the algorithm of AI artworks are resourcing and using other artists' artworks to make a single artwork. Which I think should be debated/cleared if it's a form of art plagiarism.

[Haunebu]

I don't know if there's a clarification about 3d art and if this one allowed it will just tolerate people to don't put any huge effort on the contest because as many people stated they can just generate it everywhere and then submit it to the contest thread. I do hope there's separate contest between personal created arts and 3d ones so that this will not go unfair to any artist who join the contest.

That's exactly the point of AI art. It decreases the effort required to generate mind-blowing art. For example, NFTs took off like crazy recently primarily because of this kind of tech.

AI art should be utilised in a legit manner though which implies generating art in a 100% unique manner without plagiarising others works.

[FanEagle]

The art contest are for testing your creativity and if you are using some image generation apps for it then you don't have a chance to win or deserve to win at all because you are not even working hard for it and just submitting image generated by that app but contest are for original art only.But what I was saying above was there are some members who make 3D art themselves but not on big level.

To win in art contests, you must have good art as well as proof of works. You can not beat so many talented artists if you use automated apps, AI-based art tools. They don't provide you enough high quality arts and you can not show your proof of work too.

Arts made by tools won't match the conditions of art contest too. Furthermore, you can not plagiarise, steal arts of others and submit it in contest then become one of winners.

Art contest participants will inform the manager about that too. Cheaters are not tolerated in art contests by company, manager and participants.

AI art could technically win, if it is not allowed to do that then I do not know what will happen, if that’s the reason why people can't win with AI works and not allowed that would be understandable. But if we are talking about just "quality of work" then there are better and better AI software out there who are making art, and that means eventually there could be one that could take the award, and in that case it’s a possibility.

I am not saying that it’s going to happen today, but it could happen in the future when AI gets better. However, like I said if it’s not allowed to use AI then in that case it wouldn't be possible no matter how good the quality of it is.

[goaldigger]

I don't know if there's a clarification about 3d art and if this one allowed it will just tolerate people to don't put any huge effort on the contest because as many people stated they can just generate it everywhere and then submit it to the contest thread. I do hope there's separate contest between personal created arts and 3d ones so that this will not go unfair to any artist who join the contest.

That's exactly the point of AI art. It decreases the effort required to generate mind-blowing art. For example, NFTs took off like crazy recently primarily because of this kind of tech.

AI art should be utilised in a legit manner though which implies generating art in a 100% unique manner without plagiarising others works.

Roobet already limit their Art contest, and whatever your art is you can join though there’s a rule that you should not still others work, and if you guys have evidence that a participant steal a work online by using that AI system then you can just report it, so far upon seeing the participants it looks like they hand drawn it, and there’s a lot of good art already.

[Taskford]

The art contest are for testing your creativity and if you are using some image generation apps for it then you don't have a chance to win or deserve to win at all because you are not even working hard for it and just submitting image generated by that app but contest are for original art only.But what I was saying above was there are some members who make 3D art themselves but not on big level.

To win in art contests, you must have good art as well as proof of works. You can not beat so many talented artists if you use automated apps, AI-based art tools. They don't provide you enough high quality arts and you can not show your proof of work too.

Arts made by tools won't match the conditions of art contest too. Furthermore, you can not plagiarise, steal arts of others and submit it in contest then become one of winners.

Art contest participants will inform the manager about that too. Cheaters are not tolerated in art contests by company, manager and participants.

AI art could technically win, if it is not allowed to do that then I do not know what will happen, if that’s the reason why people can't win with AI works and not allowed that would be understandable. But if we are talking about just "quality of work" then there are better and better AI software out there who are making art, and that means eventually there could be one that could take the award, and in that case it’s a possibility.

I am not saying that it’s going to happen today, but it could happen in the future when AI gets better. However, like I said if it’s not allowed to use AI then in that case it wouldn't be possible no matter how good the quality of it is.

Could technically win because it will generate beautiful art piece without giving to much effort on it. Ai will just help you to give what picture you ask on the internet so this will give less effort for the people who use it and that is not good for the roobet contest held. Although its quietly cool to see what's in the mind of people but I don't think this should be consider to accept on contest where there are manual effort inserted.

[Johnyz]

Could technically win because it will generate beautiful art piece without giving to much effort on it. Ai will just help you to give what picture you ask on the internet so this will give less effort for the people who use it and that is not good for the roobet contest held. Although its quietly cool to see what's in the mind of people but I don't think this should be consider to accept on contest where there are manual effort inserted.

Again, Roobet team already know how to handle this kind of contest after years of doing this and I’m confident about the fairness of this site and with Hhampuz, we can have an assurance that winners are really deserving. Try to participate now and you’ll see the real talent of every participants, they are all good to the point that you’ll get jealous of their talent. Anyway, few days left before the end of the contest, we still have time to participate.   

[babygun]

Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

[Hamphser]

Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hgfbf5OOoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jytmYCC5OtE

Check these vids, you would eventually have the idea on what it is.
In overall, i  dont see for it to be bad to be included on this competition.Just like the rest been saying
that Roobet does have their own criteria.They do have all the rights on whats prohibited and whats allowed.
Lets see on future submissions if it does really look like this.

[Apocollapse]

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

[1] https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1585708728980049923

[aysg76]

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

[1] https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1585708728980049923

They will be moving to some other platforms for sure because they aren't going off these big sponsored deal even after twitch ban but there will be short term effect on the views as other platforms might not have that much audience to watch them playing and have to set-up new account gaining from zero point so it will be difficult but we will see many new streaming platforms coming up in decentralised manner.

[l3pox]

Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hgfbf5OOoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jytmYCC5OtE

Check these vids, you would eventually have the idea on what it is.
In overall, i  dont see for it to be bad to be included on this competition.Just like the rest been saying
that Roobet does have their own criteria.They do have all the rights on whats prohibited and whats allowed.
Lets see on future submissions if it does really look like this.

I suppose we can do some photo forensics, pretty much similar to verifying if a photo was photoshopped, to check if the output was generated by an AI or not?
maybe these AIs like Dall-E and midjourney could have verifying websites where you post an image and they tell you if it was generated by them or not, that would be quite cool

[Haunebu]

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

What the heck is DLive? Never heard of it before. They should try advertising their site through YouTube instead regardless of the complications involved since very few people are aware of small streaming platforms like DLive.

They will be moving to some other platforms for sure because they aren't going off these big sponsored deal even after twitch ban but there will be short term effect on the views as other platforms might not have that much audience to watch them playing and have to set-up new account gaining from zero point so it will be difficult but we will see many new streaming platforms coming up in decentralised manner.

Decentralised streaming platforms? That's different. Anyway, I don't think they will ever take off since this market has already become saturated currently.

[aysg76]

Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

It's not that difficult because you can differentiate between normal art and AI generated art with lot of factors and those who are judging these art contest have all the knowledge about it.But if you are curious to find out then this article will help you understand it in much better way : Check AI or human

[ultrloa]

Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

It's not that difficult because you can differentiate between normal art and AI generated art with lot of factors and those who are judging these art contest have all the knowledge about it.But if you are curious to find out then this article will help you understand it in much better way : Check AI or human

Its easy to spot AI generated arts and so far there's no participant submit a the same like art on the contest so maybe other participants are aware that they have less chances to win if they use this because for sure many people will criticize them for submitting a AI generated art. So far we can see a good submission so maybe we will mot see this kind of art at the moment.

[babygun]

Its easy to spot AI generated arts and so far there's no participant submit a the same like art on the contest so maybe other participants are aware that they have less chances to win if they use this because for sure many people will criticize them for submitting a AI generated art. So far we can see a good submission so maybe we will mot see this kind of art at the moment.

Thanks for the replies guys and providing the links with some more information behind it. I have no knowledge nor talent for art so was mainly curious about it. Good luck to all the participants and it will be interesting to see the submissions of everybody!

[Synchronice]

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

What the heck is DLive? Never heard of it before. They should try advertising their site through YouTube instead regardless of the complications involved since very few people are aware of small streaming platforms like DLive.

This is the first time I have heard about Dlive. Seems it's a blockchain based video streaming platform. Rumble is a very popular alternative platform of Twitch and Youtube right now because of the ban of some famous people To be honest, I don't know why they didn't choose Rubmle, is it prohibited to stream gambling content on Rumble? I don't know.

[Eureka_07]

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Decentralised streaming platforms? That's different. Anyway, I don't think they will ever take off since this market has already become saturated currently.

As centralized streaming platforms like Twitch and YouTube gets more strict with their terms against these type of gambling games there will be more streamers that will switch on decentralized platforms. Most (if not all) of these streaming platforms are based on blockchain technology. Few examples of these are THETA, DLive, and LBRY.

[vv181]

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet

It seems like I'm out of the loop regarding Twitch banning Roobet. AFAIK, Twitch does indeed prohibit streamers from playing games on an unlicensed gambling site based on their new policy, I thought Roobet was safe, but looking at https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Community-Guidelines?language=en_US, Roobet gambling content is indeed not permitted among many other cryptocurrency casinos.

So any reason why would Twitch ban Roobet and others? Or is it just simply company choices to be unfriendly to gambling sites?

~Few examples of these are THETA, DLive, and LBRY.

IMO, LBRY seems prominent considering other choices, but I don't know for sure whether they support live streaming. One thing for use if you use it via Odysee, it does support live stream.

[lionheart78]

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

[1] https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1585708728980049923

I also heard from lots of gambling streamers that they are migrating to Dlive.  Those who already migrated to Youtube are also creating an account to stream their gambling activities on Dlive.

So any reason why would Twitch ban Roobet and others? Or is it just simply company choices to be unfriendly to gambling sites?

One of the published reason of one article why Twitch Ban some gambling content is because of an incident where one of its streamers reportedly stole tens of thousands of dollars from its fans and fellow streamer in order to support his gambling habit.[1]


[1] Twitch bans some gambling content after an outcry from streamers