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[dunfida]

A unique complex strong password is enough for those gamblers, it won't be possible for a hacker to aggressively brute force any account since another layer of security measures will prevent such a scenario from happening. This is one of the reasons why many digital security recommendations are suggesting using a strong and unique password on every site.

Use unique, strong passwords are good because if they are weak, they can be bruteforced but don't store your passwords in email, any account, on any server.
Are your passwords in the green?

LastPass has data breach and other password manager softwares can have data breaches too.

Constantly changing them is a better method. It would allow your passwords to be never known because even if it ever gets hacked, like lets say lastpassword, then you would not be really using the same one anyway. My mail was exposed years ago, so people try to achieve something while using my mail, like try to convince me to click links and such.

But, obviously I don't fall for it and change ALL my passwords every 6 months. This allows me to not get hacked, and I fear that hackers are aware that I am dirt poor lol. So they don't even try to, imagine spending 150 hours bruteforce hacking into an account and it has 22$ in it, lol. Who would want to do that, am I right? .

How they would know that you do only own 22 bucks? 

As a hacker then you would definitely be doing all shot just for you to dig in into a particular hole and made out some bruteforce, its a hit or miss for them whether its a small amount or big then it wouldn matter.
Speaking about change password kind of behavior then it wont be that necessary as long you do have those  2fa specially on emails where codes would be sent out on your  mobile phone
if ever there are new ip log ins and similar to platforms.

[ultrloa]

Use unique, strong passwords are good because if they are weak, they can be bruteforced but don't store your passwords in email, any account, on any server.
Are your passwords in the green?

LastPass has data breach and other password manager softwares can have data breaches too.

https://twitter.com/LastPass/status/1598047380305104896

We recently detected unusual activity within a third-party cloud storage service, which is currently shared by both LastPass and its affiliate GoTo. Customer passwords remain safely encrypted due to LastPass’s Zero Knowledge architecture. More info: http://bit.ly/3gLH2i0

More info, Notice of recent security incident

The password should be combination of words, letters, numbers and character we all know but it should be kept safely without any carelessness because if someone else got your access your fund will be gone.We should be responsible in these matters and if you are having password manager goes with trusted one only.

It should be suggested by the platform thru registration so thag their new user will be aware about getting a strong password so that they not get easily hacked by some people who want to stole their money. And maybe its better not to use any platform that promise to save our password or important information so that we will not experience any bad things once those platform got a problem, always write up your details on a page of book,notebook or anything that you can handle offline since this is much safer to us.

[lienfaye]

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~I'm sure they prefer to operate the account by themselves without having to think about security and risks that can be accepted at any time.
Maybe this happened because they thought that their funds were few and impossible for someone to hack.

A security measure in any platform should be taken into measure considerably. Nevertheless, a platform like a gambling site should not make a 2-factor authentication setting being enforced as mandatory.

A unique complex strong password is enough for those gamblers, it won't be possible for a hacker to aggressively brute force any account since another layer of security measures will prevent such a scenario from happening. This is one of the reasons why many digital security recommendations are suggesting using a strong and unique password on every site.

I agree. That's why it is advisable to use a strong password to protect our account. As I have said in my earlier post, i'm not using a 2fa in my account since I dont leave huge funds there (often, it has a few dollars only for my next gambling session). I'm just using a strong password and a different ones for my other accounts like my email add so incase something went wrong, it won't be easy for the hacker to invade my other accounts.

[Haunebu]

I think it should be mandatory for everyone who wants to gamble. Everytime you give people a choice whether or not they wish to implement and use a security feature, most people would rather choose the more comfortable and convenient way to gamble. Without additional security steps.

And when their lack of security eventually becomes a problem and they find out that they have lost a lot of money to some hacker, they suddenly become all uppity and start blaming the casino for not forcing protection on them or not protecting them enough.

Which of course is complete BS.

Enforcing mandatory 2FA is a bad decision which is why almost all sites provide that choice to their users to provide complete freedom in this matter to them. Most users don't use 2FA for various reasons.

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

[vv181]

I think it should be mandatory for everyone who wants to gamble. Everytime you give people a choice whether or not they wish to implement and use a security feature, most people would rather choose the more comfortable and convenient way to gamble. Without additional security steps.

And when their lack of security eventually becomes a problem and they find out that they have lost a lot of money to some hacker, they suddenly become all uppity and start blaming the casino for not forcing protection on them or not protecting them enough.

Which of course is complete BS.

Enforcing mandatory KYC is a bad decision which is why almost all sites provide that choice to their users to provide complete freedom in this matter to them. Most users don't use 2FA for various reasons.

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

Agreed, everyone has their own choice regarding how to secure their own account. Forcing the users to adhere to the most extensive recommendation of digital security is advisable, but that did not close the possibility of the user leaking their own data due to they did not understand the reasoning behind them. So if the users themselves have better precaution and comprehension about what security features a platform has, they would willingly use it for their own benefit, not because the platform forcing them.

As one of the security precautions, if you try to brute force an account on the Roobet site, you would see this security measure prevention, "Invalid password. Maximum 15 attempts per 5 minutes."

[suzanne5223]

Enforcing mandatory KYC is a bad decision which is why almost all sites provide that choice to their users to provide complete freedom in this matter to them. Most users don't use 2FA for various reasons.

Enforcing KYC is a bad decision for 97% of all cryptocurrency users and I believe the casino fully understands this which is why they introduced tier level of KYC for the user so that the user doesn't want to go through KYC that involves the provision of ID can maintain the tier that only involves email and other information.

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

How can you blame a casino or consider the casino security system to be weak for their user losing money to a hacker when what the hacker need is the user ID, password, and IP address?
If hackers get hold of the information I stated is the casino to blame or the user for not avoiding human error? Is like using hardware wallets and use expose your wallet to a physical attack and the wallet was hacked are you going to blame the wallet company?

[LUCKMCFLY]

That's not going to happen anymore, no. The regulations for crypto are getting stricter and stricter all over the world, and this not only affects casinos but also exchanges. Exchanges must, for example, demand proof of origin for the deposited coins, if, for example, larger quantities come from unregulated casinos, they must not allow them to be deposited (and exchanged for USD, for example), otherwise they make themselves liable to prosecution.

In my opinion, the rather relaxed times of online crypto casinos are over and will not come back.

That's true. Recent debacles like the FTX crash and the Terra-LUNA crash made things worse for the cryptocurrency market on the whole and these are just a couple of reasons as to why regulations will keep increasing over time.

Despite these issues, it's good to see more and more new, legit crypto gambling sites emerging.

Even with these new sites or platforms emergence but it wont really make out such change yet they would really be that subjective with regulation if ever they would tend to operate.I do agree with those points

above that with all the bad things happening involving huge funds been stolen or been used up or some issues then its not really surprising that government would really make out some involvement which it isnt
really that totally surprising if one day that majority of these platforms would really be asking out for some verification first before you could make out an account and make out deposits.
Its true that gone are the days on which we could gamble out freely or without having that much restriction for whatever the amount would it be.

Everything takes place in an environment where everything will be controlled, both crypto by governments and by banks, somehow they are making us fall into their system to see if they can survive with crypto, this is something that was expected to come, The bad thing about adoption is that governments come in charging taxes and regulating as if they were the kings of everything, and that is not the case, I will never agree that there are crypto regulations, it is something that I appreciate from another world, it is the height of all corrupt people mess with that, because whoever has crypto should not give explanations to anything or anyone, much less to governments for their regulations.

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~I'm sure they prefer to operate the account by themselves without having to think about security and risks that can be accepted at any time.
Maybe this happened because they thought that their funds were few and impossible for someone to hack.

A security measure in any platform should be taken into measure considerably. Nevertheless, a platform like a gambling site should not make a 2-factor authentication setting being enforced as mandatory.

A unique complex strong password is enough for those gamblers, it won't be possible for a hacker to aggressively brute force any account since another layer of security measures will prevent such a scenario from happening. This is one of the reasons why many digital security recommendations are suggesting using a strong and unique password on every site.

In this aspect it is so, I consider that each platform has a way of doing so that the security of the players can survive, I will always agree with the security of the second layer 2FA, it is something necessary, being so it is important to do all These steps, I myself have had bad experiences for not having additional 2FA layer security, apart from what is said about having a secure password, the most secure for me is SHA-256, under which it is more difficult to hack having the corresponding security protocols, this is what every player should have so that their money is not violated, and obviously keep the 2FA recovery QR very well.

[aysg76]

I agree. That's why it is advisable to use a strong password to protect our account. As I have said in my earlier post, i'm not using a 2fa in my account since I dont leave huge funds there (often, it has a few dollars only for my next gambling session). I'm just using a strong password and a different ones for my other accounts like my email add so incase something went wrong, it won't be easy for the hacker to invade my other accounts.

See I know many of us don't have huge bankroll and play with minimum amounts only but 2FA is better for security reasons of our account adding extra layer to it so we should use it but yes if you have strong password that can't be easily brute forced it's fine.Also if you are using password manager see if it's safe after the latest breach.

[goldkingcoiner]

I think it should be mandatory for everyone who wants to gamble. Everytime you give people a choice whether or not they wish to implement and use a security feature, most people would rather choose the more comfortable and convenient way to gamble. Without additional security steps.

And when their lack of security eventually becomes a problem and they find out that they have lost a lot of money to some hacker, they suddenly become all uppity and start blaming the casino for not forcing protection on them or not protecting them enough.

Which of course is complete BS.

Enforcing mandatory KYC is a bad decision which is why almost all sites provide that choice to their users to provide complete freedom in this matter to them. Most users don't use 2FA for various reasons.

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

KYC and 2FA are two things that have nothing to do with each other. KYC is when the customer gives the platform (in this specific example, a crypto-exchange or crypto casino) his/her details and provides evidence in the form of government ID and other official documents that he/she are who he/she says they are.

While 2FA is not KYC but it is a security function which, for example,  requires you to log in with extra verification (E-Mail or Google Authentication for example).

So the only way a hacker who has access to your account password can gain access is by confirming it with another security measure (2FA). This makes your log ins much more secure.

[Hamphser]

I think it should be mandatory for everyone who wants to gamble. Everytime you give people a choice whether or not they wish to implement and use a security feature, most people would rather choose the more comfortable and convenient way to gamble. Without additional security steps.

And when their lack of security eventually becomes a problem and they find out that they have lost a lot of money to some hacker, they suddenly become all uppity and start blaming the casino for not forcing protection on them or not protecting them enough.

Which of course is complete BS.

Enforcing mandatory KYC is a bad decision which is why almost all sites provide that choice to their users to provide complete freedom in this matter to them. Most users don't use 2FA for various reasons.

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

KYC and 2FA are two things that have nothing to do with each other. KYC is when the customer gives the platform (in this specific example, a crypto-exchange or crypto casino) his/her details and provides evidence in the form of government ID and other official documents that he/she are who he/she says they are.

While 2FA is not KYC but it is a security function which, for example,  requires you to log in with extra verification (E-Mail or Google Authentication for example).

So the only way a hacker who has access to your account password can gain access is by confirming it with another security measure (2FA). This makes your log ins much more secure.

People should at least study or being aware that both things are totally different to each other.2FA is an another layer of security on which it would make your account more secure when it comes to logging in.

If you are a huge wagerer or whale then it would be just normal that you should really be that mindful when it comes to this kind of this thing to make yourself get out of possible hacks or  heaches.
KYC is something that it is highly frowned upon on this market but since regulation and laws are becoming that stricter on which these platforms doesnt really have any choice but to deal with it
then us users would be having no choice but to agree and face it out.

[khaled0111]

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

If the platform allow its customers to set 2fa then it's the customer's fault if he doesn't use it then a hacker get access to his device and steal his passwords. You can't blame the platform for the user's carelessness.
2fa serves as a mean to protect your account against breaches from the user's side. It has nothing to do with the platform's security.
Most users are reckless, this is why I believe such feature must be mandatory, for their own interest.

[Apocollapse]

If the platform allow its customers to set 2fa then it's the customer's fault if he doesn't use it then a hacker get access to his device and steal his passwords. You can't blame the platform for the user's carelessness.
2fa serves as a mean to protect your account against breaches from the user's side. It has nothing to do with the platform's security.
Most users are reckless, this is why I believe such feature must be mandatory, for their own interest.

People should consider to use 2FA in correctly way, if you're install the 2FA on the same device you're used to access the site, it's kill the purpose of 2FA. 2FA need to be installed on different device since you're want to prevent the malicious/malware that infected your device can't know the 2FA code. If it's installed on the same device, they can spy the code and able to access your account.

[Haunebu]

How can you blame a casino or consider the casino security system to be weak for their user losing money to a hacker when what the hacker need is the user ID, password, and IP address?
If hackers get hold of the information I stated is the casino to blame or the user for not avoiding human error?

You are making zero sense here. User ID, PWD and IP address are connected to the site itself which implies that the hackers need to go through the site security to acquire those details. They are 100% at fault if hackers manage to hack them.

KYC and 2FA are two things that have nothing to do with each other.

That was a typo. I meant 'Enforcing mandatory 2FA(Not KYC)'.

If the platform allow its customers to set 2fa then it's the customer's fault if he doesn't use it then a hacker get access to his device and steal his passwords. You can't blame the platform for the user's carelessness.
Most users are reckless, this is why I believe such feature must be mandatory, for their own interest.

Nonsense. I've seen so many sites that got hacked, but the hackers couldn't steal anything despite so many users not using 2FA because of their advanced security systems.

[suzanne5223]

How can you blame a casino or consider the casino security system to be weak for their user losing money to a hacker when what the hacker need is the user ID, password, and IP address?
If hackers get hold of the information I stated is the casino to blame or the user for not avoiding human error?

You are making zero sense here. User ID, PWD and IP address are connected to the site itself which implies that the hackers need to go through the site security to acquire those details. They are 100% at fault if hackers manage to hack them.

You said this because you don't understand my point. How is it possible for hackers to break or crack 256-bit Encryption? A 256-bit encrypted message will take a hacker or cracker 2256 different permutations to decipher, which is practically hard for even the fastest computers to do.
Technically, if a user losses his/her account to a hacker the mistake is from the user's end.
Hope you get my point now.

[so98nn]

If the platform allow its customers to set 2fa then it's the customer's fault if he doesn't use it then a hacker get access to his device and steal his passwords. You can't blame the platform for the user's carelessness.
2fa serves as a mean to protect your account against breaches from the user's side. It has nothing to do with the platform's security.
Most users are reckless, this is why I believe such feature must be mandatory, for their own interest.

People should consider to use 2FA in correctly way, if you're install the 2FA on the same device you're used to access the site, it's kill the purpose of 2FA. 2FA need to be installed on different device since you're want to prevent the malicious/malware that infected your device can't know the 2FA code. If it's installed on the same device, they can spy the code and able to access your account.

Actually peeps should start using the 2FA in first place. Many of them do not want to use it because they dont feel the need of same which amuses me. If we have that tech around then use it peeps, it's for our own security. Imagine being in the situation where you end up with high class winnings and the money is just right there to be gambled further but you are worried about it all the time because someone might just steal it from the account. With just a passwords it would be easy to get in, with 2FA it's almost next to impossible.

Anyways, it doesnt matter if the 2FA app is on the same device or not. You can always have additional security such as hidden apps, app locks and most importantly everyone has the main screen lock.

Those are lot of locks mate to keep it altogether.

[danadc]

If they lose money to hackers, the casino is 100% at fault despite not using 2FA since their security system was weak and penetrable. Blaming victims for not using 2FA in this case is utter nonsense.

2FA is just an optional security measure and isn't the primary security measure of the site.

If the platform allow its customers to set 2fa then it's the customer's fault if he doesn't use it then a hacker get access to his device and steal his passwords. You can't blame the platform for the user's carelessness.
2fa serves as a mean to protect your account against breaches from the user's side. It has nothing to do with the platform's security.
Most users are reckless, this is why I believe such feature must be mandatory, for their own interest.

The security of the 2FA layer is very important, I would say that we could be talking about many things that we can achieve if we put that security in time, players who enter a casino quickly are almost not stopped and that is a lack of everything, I I could bear to wait a couple more seconds but having my money safe is what I think is safer to do, because entering a casino quickly can be done by anyone, but not having your money stolen is something that is worth a lot, even if the money is stolen money, it can be argued that the casino could be irresponsible because they already had all the security and that is much better.

[FanEagle]

everyone has their own choice regarding how to secure their own account. Forcing the users to adhere to the most extensive recommendation of digital security is advisable, but that did not close the possibility of the user leaking their own data due to they did not understand the reasoning behind them. So if the users themselves have better precaution and comprehension about what security features a platform has, they would willingly use it for their own benefit, not because the platform forcing them.

As one of the security precautions, if you try to brute force an account on the Roobet site, you would see this security measure prevention, "Invalid password. Maximum 15 attempts per 5 minutes."

I agree with goldkingcoiner, this isn't some liberal issue where you want freedom of being hacked if you are not careful type of deal, that can't be done, it's just not normal and shouldn't be the issue. I believe that we shouldn't be given that option and 2FA should be forced to players so that it would be safe, otherwise you are just being horrible about the situation.

I agree that not having the freedom to do whatever you want is upsetting for some people, but this is there to protect you and if it's a good intention thing then you should be able to understand why it was done. It's not much work neither, setting it up takes maybe 1 minute max, and it takes extra 15 seconds to login.

[babygun]

I agree with goldkingcoiner, this isn't some liberal issue where you want freedom of being hacked if you are not careful type of deal, that can't be done, it's just not normal and shouldn't be the issue. I believe that we shouldn't be given that option and 2FA should be forced to players so that it would be safe, otherwise you are just being horrible about the situation.

I agree that not having the freedom to do whatever you want is upsetting for some people, but this is there to protect you and if it's a good intention thing then you should be able to understand why it was done. It's not much work neither, setting it up takes maybe 1 minute max, and it takes extra 15 seconds to login.

While it would be better that sites would enforce 2FA, I don't think that any site will do it. To be honest, I only implemented 2FA after I read some stories here on this forum who got hacked and lost a lot money but sometimes people don't realize the danger.

[goldkingcoiner]

I agree with goldkingcoiner, this isn't some liberal issue where you want freedom of being hacked if you are not careful type of deal, that can't be done, it's just not normal and shouldn't be the issue. I believe that we shouldn't be given that option and 2FA should be forced to players so that it would be safe, otherwise you are just being horrible about the situation.

I agree that not having the freedom to do whatever you want is upsetting for some people, but this is there to protect you and if it's a good intention thing then you should be able to understand why it was done. It's not much work neither, setting it up takes maybe 1 minute max, and it takes extra 15 seconds to login.

While it would be better that sites would enforce 2FA, I don't think that any site will do it. To be honest, I only implemented 2FA after I read some stories here on this forum who got hacked and lost a lot money but sometimes people don't realize the danger.

Would it not be more prudent to demand 2FA? All it is is a minor inconvenience and 15 seconds longer (at most, if you are slow moving) log in times. Are we really going to equate that to a breach of your freedom? It does not even come close!

Lets use your logic against you to make my point a bit more clearer:

If an exchange or casino website demands you must make an account password with letters, numbers and special characters, is that considered a breach of your freedom? Its really the same comparable inconvenience.

So I am 100% pro 2FA.  I think everyone else should be too. It has no downsides.

[Lanatsa]

I agree with goldkingcoiner, this isn't some liberal issue where you want freedom of being hacked if you are not careful type of deal, that can't be done, it's just not normal and shouldn't be the issue. I believe that we shouldn't be given that option and 2FA should be forced to players so that it would be safe, otherwise you are just being horrible about the situation.

I agree that not having the freedom to do whatever you want is upsetting for some people, but this is there to protect you and if it's a good intention thing then you should be able to understand why it was done. It's not much work neither, setting it up takes maybe 1 minute max, and it takes extra 15 seconds to login.

While it would be better that sites would enforce 2FA, I don't think that any site will do it. To be honest, I only implemented 2FA after I read some stories here on this forum who got hacked and lost a lot money but sometimes people don't realize the danger.

Would it not be more prudent to demand 2FA? All it is is a minor inconvenience and 15 seconds longer (at most, if you are slow moving) log in times. Are we really going to equate that to a breach of your freedom? It does not even come close!

Lets use your logic against you to make my point a bit more clearer:

If an exchange or casino website demands you must make an account password with letters, numbers and special characters, is that considered a breach of your freedom? Its really the same comparable inconvenience.

So I am 100% pro 2FA.  I think everyone else should be too. It has no downsides.

Dont know on why other people do really see this as a big issue and so to speak with that so called "breach of freedom" which if we do really look and mind the good things of these 2FA
then it is really regarding for our safety.

It is really just that there are people who doesnt really like to hassle up themselves on setting everything or on whats required but on the time that they've been affected
by some stolen funds or unauthorized entry on their accounts then they would be normally blaming out the site. Nothing do shocks me anymore.