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February 16, 2020, 11:50:42 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

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February 17, 2020, 12:53:32 AM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.


To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.


To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

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February 17, 2020, 01:27:23 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.


To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

I agree, neither Fury or Wilder will have a chance against a prime Mike Tyson, If I'm not mistaken, Mike also fought a lot of taller guys (but not as tall as Fury), and Tyson did demolished them in a couple of rounds.

No need to make this fantasy fights though, I think whoever says did are just hyping the rematch. And as what we always says in sports, different era's, so can't really compare them.

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February 17, 2020, 04:03:24 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.


To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.
That's really a big advantages  from Fury's side even Tyson from his prime really have the killer punch but that height advantage will be a big
difference. Though there's no chance to conclude this one out, as they reign in different era. Fighting skills and conditioning with training coaches
also play big.

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February 17, 2020, 07:03:07 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

Those are some really major words if you ask me, the prime of Tyson did not last long because of several issues in his personal life but at his prime he was a force of nature, he was one of the scariest fighters I have ever seen, he was very aggressive and once he had you where he wanted you had no way to escape, I do no really think that any of the top fighters in the heavyweight division of this day could have beaten Tyson on his prime but if they want to believe otherwise then let them since at the end we know the answer.

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February 17, 2020, 07:06:05 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

Those are some really major words if you ask me, the prime of Tyson did not last long because of several issues in his personal life but at his prime he was a force of nature, he was one of the scariest fighters I have ever seen, he was very aggressive and once he had you where he wanted you had no way to escape, I do no really think that any of the top fighters in the heavyweight division of this day could have beaten Tyson on his prime but if they want to believe otherwise then let them since at the end we know the answer.

Nobody has that aggression these days. Almost all boxers play it safe and try to be as charismatic as possible, playing up to the media.

The only person who I can think of who might be slightly aggressive, albeit in a different way is Chisora.

He's known for throwing tables and bottles at people, and slapping people during the face-off. Though it's not the same kind of menacing aggression that Tyson had.

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February 17, 2020, 07:50:44 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

Those are some really major words if you ask me, the prime of Tyson did not last long because of several issues in his personal life but at his prime he was a force of nature, he was one of the scariest fighters I have ever seen, he was very aggressive and once he had you where he wanted you had no way to escape, I do no really think that any of the top fighters in the heavyweight division of this day could have beaten Tyson on his prime but if they want to believe otherwise then let them since at the end we know the answer.

Nobody has that aggression these days. Almost all boxers play it safe and try to be as charismatic as possible, playing up to the media.

The only person who I can think of who might be slightly aggressive, albeit in a different way is Chisora.

He's known for throwing tables and bottles at people, and slapping people during the face-off. Though it's not the same kind of menacing aggression that Tyson had.
Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

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February 17, 2020, 09:46:11 PM
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Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

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February 17, 2020, 10:17:11 PM
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Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

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"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.


To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

Sorry for that mistake, it was Wilder who said that, I don't know what I put Fury in there, Lol, anyways, I give you merit for pointing that out.

And I do agree that both of them will not have a chance against a prime Tyson in the mid 80's. Tyson's head movement is underrated and he really utilised this against taller opponent of his.

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February 17, 2020, 10:38:37 PM
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Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.

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February 17, 2020, 11:42:59 PM
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Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.


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I dont see that this isnt a good record.Yes, he does have some defeats but all of his career which is more entertaining and you can
really feel the true essence of boxing. Mayweather is good but not really that my type in way of his fighting style.Undefeated sounds great
but theres always a thing that lacks.

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February 18, 2020, 02:30:20 AM
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Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.


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I dont see that this isnt a good record.Yes, he does have some defeats but all of his career which is more entertaining and you can
really feel the true essence of boxing. Mayweather is good but not really that my type in way of his fighting style.Undefeated sounds great
but theres always a thing that lacks.
That is a high percentage for a knockout he was a beast in the ring. Grin

I have a little competition going on who you will think will knock out who for a small prize for your prediction.
Feel free to enter into it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223732.new#new

Cant wait for this fight. It should be a stinger as nobody really has a clear picture of who they think will win! Wink

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February 18, 2020, 04:25:29 AM
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Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

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February 18, 2020, 06:09:51 AM
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It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.
There is no point in comparing fighters in other generations and during the reign Mike Tyson was the baddest boxers and so does Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis and after that generation we never saw a competition in the Heavyweight division until recently with Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz in the mix challenging each other for the baddest man title and the most important aspect is that we are seeing these fights in their prime than the usual boxing gimmicks of milking the cow till they make the maximum money and then go for the dream fights the fans are looking for.
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February 18, 2020, 07:04:29 AM
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Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

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February 18, 2020, 07:26:57 AM
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Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

What can we expect, they are into business and this match up is really a very competitive match, so we will likely see a trilogy after this one.
Regardless on who will win as long as the fight is competitive, we can expect to see them fight again.

it could be another classic Pacquiao vs Marquez fights in the past.

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February 18, 2020, 08:49:42 AM
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Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

What can we expect, they are into business and this match up is really a very competitive match, so we will likely see a trilogy after this one.
Regardless on who will win as long as the fight is competitive, we can expect to see them fight again.

it could be another classic Pacquiao vs Marquez fights in the past.

I do find that Pacquiao and Marquez fight quite entertaining rather than into this Wilder-Fury trilogy. Taking aside that AJ and Ruiz fight which it doesnt really need to have a 3rd match.

They will surely arrange fights if they do make out money and yes this is a business so its anticipated or do have high chance for it to happen as long it would benefit them.

Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin


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February 18, 2020, 09:03:17 AM
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Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin
That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.

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February 18, 2020, 11:40:30 AM
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Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin
That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.
The first match end up a controversial draw, so this is a fight to determine who really wins that which I assume it will not again end up a draw.

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

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