Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On

[Darker45]

This mega-fight has been anticipated by millions of boxing fans around the globe. The first one, that ended in a controversial split draw, made more questions rather than answers. This time around, after Wilder sealed the unfinished business between him and Ortiz in a very convincing fashion, the second match between him and Fury is happening. The Bronze Bomber and The Gypsy King first fought last December 1, 2018.

(Photo grabbed from https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/WilderFury2.jpeg)

Tyson Fury:

The Wilder rematch has been confirmed and signed. 22nd of February, it’s on.

This time, I haven’t been out of the ring for three years. This time, I haven’t been abusing too much alcohol. And this time, I’m going to knock him the f*** out.

Deontay Wilder:

All contracts have been signed already. It’s officially on.

As I always say I’m the realest champion in the business.

Date: February 22, 2020
Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena, Paradise, Nevada

Tale of the Tape

Wilder – Fury
Nationality: American – British
Age: 34 – 31
Height: 6ft 7 – 6ft 9
Stance: Orthodox – Orthodox
Reach: 83in – 85in
Record: 42-0-1 – 29-0-1
KOs: 41 – 20
Rounds: 143 – 186
Debut: 15/11/2008 – 12/6/2008
Nickname: The Bronze Bomber – The Gypsy King

Betting Odds:

Unlike in their first battle in which Wilder was the favorite, the odds of their upcoming rematch are turning the other way around with Fury as the favorite. This early, BetOnline.ag has it +105 (21/20) for Wilder while -125 (4/5) for Fury. The odds have changed in favor of Wilder.


Sources:
[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/600401/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-rematch-date-luis-ortiz-otto-wallin/
[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/11/25/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-2-odds-despite-the-bronze-bombers-massive-ko-on-saturday-hes-still-the-underdog/#226f3d5a48b4
[3] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/634035/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-andre-ward-boxing/
[4] https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1208601/Deontay-Wilder-Tyson-Fury-Luis-Ortiz-Knockout-Wilder-Vs-Ortiz-2-Boxing-News

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[Upgrade00]

Should be an exciting match and an unpredictable one too. Both fighters are in good shape and good points in their careers. I do not think there would be much of a home advantage for Wilder should the fight be staged in America.
We would see lots of rounds in this match up, possibly the Long haul.

[peter0425]

at last what wilder says after his last fight is truly happening and this is the one of the most awaited fight of the year of 2020.

and also this match is one of the best because they are really match in terms of everything specially both has 1 loss.

[Yaunfitda]

Good, so we can settle once and for all who are best in the HW decision. But this is going to be tricky though, we have seen what had happened in the first match, Fury controlling the fight early on with this boxing skills and Wilder heating up late in the round and did score a knock down. And we thought that Fury couldn't get up from that devastating KD. So it's going hard to predict as to who are going to win in this fight.

[sheenshane]

This is a very exciting rematch, I saw the previous match of his fight against Luis Ortiz, and after the victorious happened I'm shocked that he announced and set up a lucrative rematch against Tyson Fury in February 2020. In my own opinion, Wilder had an advantage in chances of winning here than his opponent and it will retain his heavyweight title. It's hard to predict between this match but I will go with Wilder than the challenger.

[btc_angela]

Yeah, I think this is one of the anticipated match in 2020 specially that heavyweight division are getting the media hype in the last year or so. Fury is more of a technical boxer here and he knows how to take advantage of it. I think it's more of a Wilder adjustment, he shouldn't start slow here, I'm not saying that he should try everything in the first couple of rounds. But Wilder should not make Fury comfortable and bring the fight to Tyson in the first six rounds.

[TravelMug]

at last what wilder says after his last fight is truly happening and this is the one of the most awaited fight of the year of 2020.

and also this match is one of the best because they are really match in terms of everything specially both has 1 loss.

Both doesn't have a lost, technically it was a draw during their last fight.

I'm going with Tyson Fury here, he is well rounded, technically superior and if not for the knock down, I'm sure he had given Wilder his first lost. Also Fury is awkward as well and this makes him a different stylistics matchup to anyone including Wilder. So I'm predicting a decision win for Fury, as I believed that he has also won the first match.

[uray]

and also this match is one of the best because they are really match in terms of everything specially both has 1 loss.

What loss are you talking about, in my eyes Tyson Fury was the better boxer in the first fight and Wilder as usual was having too much power in his hands and those knockdowns were great and Fury showed his metal as he woke from the dead before the ten count and then went for the kill again, one of the best fights of the century and i am expecting another great fight the second time around.

[7788bitcoin]

This is a very exciting rematch, I saw the previous match of his fight against Luis Ortiz, and after the victorious happened I'm shocked that he announced and set up a lucrative rematch against Tyson Fury in February 2020. In my own opinion, Wilder had an advantage in chances of winning here than his opponent and it will retain his heavyweight title. It's hard to predict between this match but I will go with Wilder than the challenger.

It is the much waited rematch in boxing right now, the first one the judges messed up and there is nothing here to be shocked because if Wilder avoids Fury he will get heat as Fury is calling out Wilder for sometime now and this is the best time to put that rematch and not to irritate the fans, usually in the past the boxing promoters used to wait for a long time to put up a fight and with UFC giving fights the fans wanted the boxing promoters are following that.
Tyson is a clearly better technical boxer and if Wilder is able to land a good punch then it is his fight to win and so is the interest in this fight.

[robelneo]

The second match will be more exciting than the first one, they have sized up each one, but I believe Fury is the winner of the first match because of his total domination of the earlier round, but on this second match Wilder have to knock out Fury because of his technical skill and good job, he will totally dominate him on every round just like what happen to their last match.

[DeathAngel]

It’s all being set up for the winner of -

Wilder vs Fury
Ruiz vs Joshua

To face off to unify the heavyweight division.

[AliMan]

and also this match is one of the best because they are really match in terms of everything specially both has 1 loss.

What loss are you talking about, in my eyes Tyson Fury was the better boxer in the first fight and Wilder as usual was having too much power in his hands and those knockdowns were great and Fury showed his metal as he woke from the dead before the ten count and then went for the kill again, one of the best fights of the century and i am expecting another great fight the second time around.

Maybe that's only a perspective from our friend mate, actually he just based his impressions with Tyson Fury on previous fights. Sometimes we fail to see some good points on other boxers, we always expecting great from them and yet if they happen to disappoints on their other fights, eventually that will discredit them. Fury did so well, but we can't convince other people if they won't bet for him. Furthermore I am also an avid fan of Fury, and I trusted him for his coming fights that he will win for it and take the legacy.

[Wexnident]

A Remaaaaaaaaaatchhhhhhhhh. Finally. I've been waiting for this rematch ever since they ended with that weird ass draw which was rather full of questions with the result. I also watched the match between Wilder and Ortiz and oh boy, imagining this rematch after that match got me so bloody hyped up for this. It is rather rare for the most part to see two fighters of almost equal caliber to duke it out, where both of them are rather strong to the point they could be called kings. Now, the fight between two kings is gonna get on once more, and ohhh is there a lot of hype ongoing with it right now.

[YuginKadoya]

Nice One! this is a great rematch I think I will not pass every single insight in this fight because this can be epic, Well Deontay Wilder can still be a formidable fighter than Tyson Fury, in my opinion, base on their stats because Wilder has much TKO than Fury but I can not be so sure about this because Deontay Wilder might be undefeated Tyson Fury is the only opponent that had given Wilder a record of draw and Wilder as well to Fury, but I have a large gut feeling that Wilder can have a large chance in winning this fight.

[bering]

First match ended draw but i think for this rematch i believe there will be a winner between both of fighter but i don't know it will be Wilder or Furry but Wilder latest fight very impressive because he was able to punch KO Ortiz and according to Ortiz predictions he says Wilder will be the winner of this fight

[narcopop]

I think that Fury has to be the best version of himself just to compete with Wilder. He's great defender, he has quick feet and he dances all around the floor and feels the distance.

But is The Gypsy capable of beating Wilder? I wouldn't be so sure. Bronze Bomber is thinking now about the unification and I don't think that he would forget prepare for a big fight or not take it seriously. Rematch with Fury may be his second UD win in career.

70/30 for Deontay - that's how I see this fight chances from today's perspective.

[BChydro]

First match ended draw but i think for this rematch i believe there will be a winner between both of fighter but i don't know it will be Wilder or Furry but Wilder latest fight very impressive because he was able to punch KO Ortiz and according to Ortiz predictions he says Wilder will be the winner of this fight

It would be fun if we find a draw in the rematch too, since this is a highly anticipated high stakes huge money fight and if the fight is close like the first one we can see another draw and they will look for a trilogy which will sell more . Both fighters are talents and Wilder could knock anyone out with one punch and the fight is how long Fury can avoid his punches.

[DoublerHunter]

This is a good fight, I knew that there is a rematch between Wilder and Fury and this is the most awaited event that probably everyone's waiting to happen and now Wilder officially announced to have a rematch against Fury. In my point of view, Fury here probably is in underdog and Wilder will have a lot of bettors. Nevertheless, yeah, it's an unpredictable match because both fighters are good skills and both young. But I still choose Wilder here and waiting to place my bet.

[BitcoinsGreat]

This is a good fight, I knew that there is a rematch between Wilder and Fury and this is the most awaited event that probably everyone's waiting to happen and now Wilder officially announced to have a rematch against Fury. In my point of view, Fury here probably is in underdog and Wilder will have a lot of bettors. Nevertheless, yeah, it's an unpredictable match because both fighters are good skills and both young. But I still choose Wilder here and waiting to place my bet.

Wilder has recently won the match against Luis Ortiz so he will be more positive to give tough time to Fury. I know it is difficult to win against fury but i am hoping Deontay Wilder to give a good match to him. We still have to wait around 3 months for this interesting match.

[posi]

Wilder defends his title beautiful while Fury won when he faces Braun Strowman at the WWE Crown Jewel debut, gosh! This going to be a hell of a fight since they are both in good shape at the moment and they will also want to prove themselves by setting the record straight in other to avoid another controversy.

I think the OP need to change the thread topic cause it somehow convincing at a point I thought they are fighting already.

[DarkDays]

"This time, I haven’t been out of the ring for three years. This time, I haven’t been abusing too much alcohol. And this time, I’m going to knock him the f*** out."

Tyson Fury said the exact same thing for their first fight. He said multiple times that he didn't intend to let the fight go to distance and promised to "knock this bum out."

However, we then saw him fight extremely slow and technical in the fight, pretty much threw no knockout shots and clearly intended to win on points.

Wilder, on the other hand, clearly went in there looking to blow Fury out and almost did it twice.

Fury has been messing around in WWE, fighting nobodies and talking too much trash lately. He might not survive the next fight.

[Jating]

Wilder defends his title beautiful while Fury won when he faces Braun Strowman at the WWE Crown Jewel debut, gosh! This going to be a hell of a fight since they are both in good shape at the moment and they will also want to prove themselves by setting the record straight in other to avoid another controversy.

C'mon you can't count that WWE fight on Fury. After their first fight, he fought Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin so his part of the bargain is done. And then Wilder, Dominic Breazeale and Luis Ortiz. That Braun Strowman 'fight' was just a get busy fight for Tyson Fury and of course to take advantage of his time while waiting for Deontay Wilder.

I'll favoured Deontay Wilder here because of his one punch KO. Yes, Tyson Fury is gifted fighter, but we have seen that his chin can't hold up against Wilder's right hand. And Wilder is like getting into his prime right now and it's just a matter of time before he will catch Fury and knock him out cold for good.

[notblox1]

Tyson Fury team is preparing for this fight for long time.
I have no doubt that we will see boxing war and justice will be served.
Fury will win and outbox Wilder with smart tactics, movement and he will get under Wilder skin before fight.
Mark my words.

[carlisle1]

i have been reading many new about this rematch and now it is finally coming true.i know fury is the advantageous on this fight but.
but Wilder is also one great boxer and will make own history for this rematch so let us expect a much awaited and dedicated fight over the ring.

i will bet on fury on this one,and hope make some bucks at the end of the fight.

[fortunecrypto]

"This time, I haven’t been out of the ring for three years. This time, I haven’t been abusing too much alcohol. And this time, I’m going to knock him the f*** out."

Tyson Fury said the exact same thing for their first fight. He said multiple times that he didn't intend to let the fight go to distance and promised to "knock this bum out."

However, we then saw him fight extremely slow and technical in the fight, pretty much threw no knockout shots and clearly intended to win on points.

Wilder, on the other hand, clearly went in there looking to blow Fury out and almost did it twice.

Fury has been messing around in WWE, fighting nobodies and talking too much trash lately. He might not survive the next fight.

Both of their last fights have an indication of things to come for their next fight, Wilder is very sharp and very strong and very serious on becoming the one best champion in the heavyweight division, his opponent in his last fight is not a very technical fight, I'm talking about Ortiz, I believe Wilder can knock Fury out if he sees the opening, that's what he needs I'm sure this is what he will be looking for.

[7788bitcoin]

"This time, I haven’t been out of the ring for three years. This time, I haven’t been abusing too much alcohol. And this time, I’m going to knock him the f*** out."
Tyson Fury said the exact same thing for their first fight. He said multiple times that he didn't intend to let the fight go to distance and promised to "knock this bum out."

Tyson Fury was making a come back after drug and alcohol abuse when they fought the first time and now he will be more focused and ready to fight Wilder but i am not expecting a knockout from Fury but it will go to the judges if both their chins hold up till the final round.

However, we then saw him fight extremely slow and technical in the fight, pretty much threw no knockout shots and clearly intended to win on points.
Wilder, on the other hand, clearly went in there looking to blow Fury out and almost did it twice.
Fury has been messing around in WWE, fighting nobodies and talking too much trash lately. He might not survive the next fight.

Fury is having too much fun right now and if he is not focusing on the fight entire that will be the end as Wilder can knock anyone out cold with one shot and Fury needs to be technical and avoiding his shots is the key to his victory.

[mu_enrico]

My pick would be for Tyson Fury to win this rematch. I've seen both fighters multiple times, and I think Wilder has a significant disadvantage in reach and weight. He cannot rush in and start throwing wide punches versus Fury.

When faced with equal but bigger opponents, a smaller boxer should use a better technique to offset the disadvantage. However, Wilder seems to depend only on his sheer power, and Fury will easily neutralize that.

[Ziskinberg]

As always, I will go with Tyson Fury, he moves better than Wilder and I think he will do better the 2nd time around.
The first fight was like a robbery as I was really expecting Fury won that fight but since we are not part of the official judge, let's just accept the result.

This rematch  will tell who really won the first fight and Fury will prove that to us.


if you have a poll on who will win between the 2, would be nice so we will know the votes from us here.

[Bttzed03]

Hopefully both fighters stay healthy.

With what Fury said as quoted in the OP, I like the chances of him winning the rematch. A more conditioned fighter is more dangerous.

[Saisher]

As always, I will go with Tyson Fury, he moves better than Wilder and I think he will do better the 2nd time around.
The first fight was like a robbery as I was really expecting Fury won that fight but since we are not part of the official judge, let's just accept the result.

This rematch  will tell who really won the first fight and Fury will prove that to us.


if you have a poll on who will win between the 2, would be nice so we will know the votes from us here.

Good observation, Fury is a very technical fighter, but Wilder is a big puncher and can finish the fight with one punch, as we have seen in his last fight against Ortiz, Fury will try to dominate, but Wilder will try to find an opening it's a battle of who gets the best of the situation.

[Viscore]

Hopefully both fighters stay healthy.

With what Fury said as quoted in the OP, I like the chances of him winning the rematch. A more conditioned fighter is more dangerous.

Wilder is going to be the favorites here, same with the fight number 1, but after the fight number 1, I think a lot of people will bet on Fury in this match.
Those who are interested to see the highlights in first fight, I have it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvfquEqTXGU

disclaimer : not my youtube channel or friends and i am not promoting it.

[Darker45]

I think the OP need to change the thread topic cause it somehow convincing at a point I thought they are fighting already.

Days, weeks, and months ago the rematch was the talk of the town but it was still nothing but a mere rumor, even though very likely happening. What I meant by On in the subject is that the rematch is finally sealed. The contract has been signed already. It is not just a rumor, it is really on track.  

if you have a poll on who will win between the 2, would be nice so we will know the votes from us here.

If this is a request and you are referring to me, I would gladly comply. My personal thought is that Fury is gonna lead the poll, though. Let us see, then.

Edit: I thought I could just edit the OP and add a poll. But it seems it is not possible.

[TopTort777]

Anyone knows how much fighter will earn this time?

I've noticed Fury trash talk too much. This boxer is a no-name, that one is a bum, this one I'm gonna win with eyes closed and etc. (never followed what Wilder say, hope is not so much trash talker ar Tyson). Wish someone shut his mouth with a nice punch.

[smyslov]

Anyone knows how much fighter will earn this time?

I've noticed Fury trash talk too much. This boxer is a no-name, that one is a bum, this one I'm gonna win with eyes closed and etc. (never followed what Wilder say, hope is not so much trash talker ar Tyson). Wish someone shut his mouth with a nice punch.

No punch can shut his big mouth, this is his trademark but he does back it up with achievement look at his achievement, he is a very exciting fighter because of the hype he is creating whenever he has a fight, there's going to be a lot of trash talk when these two held their press conference, and of course both fighters will make good money this time.

[TopTort777]

Anyone knows how much fighter will earn this time?

I've noticed Fury trash talk too much. This boxer is a no-name, that one is a bum, this one I'm gonna win with eyes closed and etc. (never followed what Wilder say, hope is not so much trash talker ar Tyson). Wish someone shut his mouth with a nice punch.

No punch can shut his big mouth, this is his trademark but he does back it up with achievement look at his achievement, he is a very exciting fighter because of the hype he is creating whenever he has a fight, there's going to be a lot of trash talk when these two held their press conference, and of course both fighters will make good money this time.

Conor McGregor on steroids  He also dresses showy. Next gonna be launching a product with his name.

[DarkDays]

Both of their last fights have an indication of things to come for their next fight, Wilder is very sharp and very strong and very serious on becoming the one best champion in the heavyweight division, his opponent in his last fight is not a very technical fight, I'm talking about Ortiz, I believe Wilder can knock Fury out if he sees the opening, that's what he needs I'm sure this is what he will be looking for.

For sure. Wilder seems to be able to keep his KO power even into the later rounds, I mean he dropped fury with a last punch in the 11th round in their last fight.

All he really needs to do is catch him flush earlier this time, when he still has even more of his power left. That 11th row knockdown punch probably wasn't even full power, which is why Fury managed to get back up.

Still, I'm sure Fury has the skills to avoid Wilder for 12 rounds, but it is quite possible Wilder will get lucky with an opening and knock him the f*** out.

[Yamifoud]

I'll go for wilder. Not only he has a KO power but he probably learns from their previous fight. But believing that both of them will prepare for this fight, it gonna be an exciting fight to see. Fury might take precautions also to avoid Wilder's KO punch just to finish the 12round fight and has a chance to win otherwise, he ends up early. But considering their fight records, its gonna be very tough for both of them to have TKO.

[Kasabus]

This should be a 50/50 fight as the first fight ended up as draw, but with the recent win of Wilder, I think he will be a slight favorite in this game, but with that line, we can still get a good value of our bet betting either any of the fighter.

For sure this one is going to be an exciting fight, whether it will end in decision or KO, I just like to see how Fury will make an effort this time around.
Well the first fight was suppose to be for him, but he got known down in fight so maybe that was the one that really helps Wilder.

[Baofeng]

Wilder To Begin Fury Camp Dec. 31, Workouts Being Reduced

Deontay Wilder will be back in the ring Feb. 22 against Tyson Fury, thirteen weeks after demolishing Luis Ortiz to retain his WBC heavyweight title.

The turnaround may be a quick one considering the magnitude of the fight, but neither the Alabaman fighter or his trainer, Jay Deas, are concerned.

Deas has circled Dec. 31 as the date to kick off training camp for Wilder’s rematch against the lineal heavyweight champion of the world, the trainer told BoxingScene.com.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-begin-fury-camp-dec-31-workouts-being-reduced--144634

A full 12-13 weeks of training for Deontay to prepare for this big fight. I think this is good for his body as the training said that they are going to reduced his training loads. I agree that this will be very huge fight in the boxing community. I'm still 50/50 in this fight, and I'm sure the odds are going to be close in this one, I'll probably look for ML here first and see how I'm going to bet in this fight.

@TopTort777 - according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder_vs._Tyson_Fury,

Purses

According to the California State Athletic Commission, Wilder had a guaranteed base purse of $4 million and Fury took home a guaranteed purse of $3 million.[21] Despite Frank Warren's original claim that the revenue would be split 50-50, it was revealed that if the fight generated 1 million PPV buys, Wilder could make $14 million (£11 million) and Fury would earn around $10.25 million (£8 million). Both boxers would see this increase to their base purses after receiving their percentages from pay-per-view revenue.[22]

That is during their first fight. So I will assume that because of the magnitude of this rematch, they will received more than or at least double what they got in the first fight.

[coin-investor]

This should be a 50/50 fight as the first fight ended up as draw, but with the recent win of Wilder, I think he will be a slight favorite in this game, but with that line, we can still get a good value of our bet betting either any of the fighter.

For sure this one is going to be an exciting fight, whether it will end in decision or KO, I just like to see how Fury will make an effort this time around.
Well, the first fight was supposed to be for him, but he got known down in fight so maybe that was the one that really helps Wilder.

It should be 50/50, even if Fury is not holding a title, he knows how to generate hype in a fight, even if he is fighting lower class fighters he still stirs excitement into the fight, this fight could still go the other way, if Wilder did not score a knockdowns, that could be an easy win for Fury,
Wilder will take this fight seriously now if he wants to be the greatest fighter of this generation, he must knock out Fury.

[notblox1]

I don't remember time when heavyweight category and boxing in general was so interesting.
So far I could find some early odds for this fight

[bbc.reporter]

Are there sportsbooks already offering early odds for this fight? I would be betting on the early odds underdog, whoever it may be, maybe Tyson Fury hehehe. It might become close to even odds when fight day arrives.

[GreatArkansas]

Wilder – Fury
Nationality: American – British
Age: 34 – 31
Height: 6ft 7 – 6ft 9
Stance: Orthodox – Orthodox
Reach: 83in – 85in
Record: 42-0-1 – 29-0-1
KOs: 41 – 20
Rounds: 143 – 186

Really looking forward for this fight.
We can see a disappointed first lost for their boxing career here.
I do love watching this kind of boxing, especially fighting of two undefeated boxers, it's much exciting and yet intense fight because either of the two boxer will become defeated if the game will not end by draw.
Betting odds is really in favor of Wilder, I will still wait before the fight begins because there's a lot of changes in odds for sure.

[Darker45]

Are there sportsbooks already offering early odds for this fight? I would be betting on the early odds underdog, whoever it may be, maybe Tyson Fury hehehe. It might become close to even odds when fight day arrives.

Betting odds is really in favor of Wilder, I will still wait before the fight begins because there's a lot of changes in odds for sure.

My favorite sportbooks do not have odds on this rematch yet. BetOnline.ag, however, has it +105 for Wilder and -125 for Fury. This means that while both of you are expecting Wilder to be the favorite and Fury as the underdog of this fight, it is actually Tyson who is leading in the odds. The numbers are saying that your $100 bet for Wilder will give you a $105 return winning while your $125 bet for Fury will only give you $100 in prize.

[TopTort777]

I don't remember time when heavyweight category and boxing in general was so interesting.
So far I could find some early odds for this fight

Every fight in heavyweight after Klichko fights is interesting. Cant imagine why people pay money to see 12 rounds of "jab-jab-jab-jab-jab-jab-jab-clinch-jab-jab-jab-straight punch: a) KO b) no KO=repeat jab-jab-jab combo"

[aioc]

It's just right, that they have a rematch, the first fight is very exciting but the outcome is not what people expect it to be, people thought Fury won the match because of the earlier domination in the early rounds, but others think Wilder should win the fight, because of the two knockdowns, in the later rounds, the second match will settle it.

[uray]

Are there sportsbooks already offering early odds for this fight? I would be betting on the early odds underdog, whoever it may be, maybe Tyson Fury hehehe. It might become close to even odds when fight day arrives.

I waiting to see how the odds makers will see this fight consider the last fight of Wilder and Fury and how they will come up with the odds, it is really hard to predict this fight as one shot can change everything from Wilder and it was evident from the last fight against Ortiz and it was not even a punch to the jaw and yet he got floored which shows his punching power.

[Ziskinberg]

Are there sportsbooks already offering early odds for this fight? I would be betting on the early odds underdog, whoever it may be, maybe Tyson Fury hehehe. It might become close to even odds when fight day arrives.

I waiting to see how the odds makers will see this fight consider the last fight of Wilder and Fury and how they will come up with the odds, it is really hard to predict this fight as one shot can change everything from Wilder and it was evident from the last fight against Ortiz and it was even a punch to the jaw and yet he got floored which shows his punching power.

It's too early, we can expect it next year as the fight will happen early next year. \

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/600401/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-rematch-date-luis-ortiz-otto-wallin/

Fury announced in July that his rematch against Wilder will take place on February 22, 2020.

so maybe by January, the odds will already be available,.. I am excited as you are guys, let's just keep monitoring our favorite sportsbook and put some update here if the line is already up.

[LogitechMouse]

It’s all being set up for the winner of -

Wilder vs Fury
Ruiz vs Joshua

To face off to unify the heavyweight division.

For sure the winners of these 2 matches will have a high chance to face in the future.

I was expecting this to happen already since Wilder won against Ortiz but if Ortiz won on that fight, he will be the one who will face Fury. After the controversial split draw between the two, they have a chance now to settle who is the best in the heavyweight division. I''m excited with this match and I think I will put some bets on it in the future.

[eaLiTy]

one shot can change everything from Wilder and it was evident from the last fight against Ortiz and it was even a punch to the jaw and yet he got floored which shows his punching power.

If you look at the fight and if you were scoring i saw Wilder loosing all the rounds on points and he was waiting for the right moment to strike and when he went for the killer shot he did not connect in the jaw but got connected in his forehead and eye area and it is not that easy to knock anyone out hitting that area but his power was more than enough to flood Ortiz.
Wilder will be waiting for Tyson to make a mistake and land that heavy hand and that is the beauty of this fight.

[Darker45]

one shot can change everything from Wilder and it was evident from the last fight against Ortiz and it was even a punch to the jaw and yet he got floored which shows his punching power.

If you look at the fight and if you were scoring i saw Wilder loosing all the rounds on points and he was waiting for the right moment to strike and when he went for the killer shot he did not connect in the jaw but got connected in his forehead and eye area and it is not that easy to knock anyone out hitting that area but his power was more than enough to flood Ortiz.
Wilder will be waiting for Tyson to make a mistake and land that heavy hand and that is the beauty of this fight.

It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.

Wilder is not a scoring machine type of fighter, mainly because he is not really a volume puncher. Unlike other boxers, he is not a machine gun; he is more of a bomb. Ortiz was the one scoring in both of their fights. This is also the same in his first match against Tyson. Tyson was the one making points while Wilder releases strong bomb of a punch every now and then. The bombs were enough to floor Tyson a couple of times but Tyson's points were also enough to win rounds. That made the fight very exciting to watch. That also caused the confusing and controversial split draw.


 

[Ranly123]

In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.

[Vaculin]

I don't remember time when heavyweight category and boxing in general was so interesting.

After the popularity of tyson is gone, I stop watching heavy weight fights.
They are boring to watch but this fight is kinda a great fight, like they showed in their first fight.
I also like Ruiz vs Joshua match up though.

So far I could find some early odds for this fight

could or couldn't? let us know if you find some odds for this fight.

[eaLiTy]

It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.

I am truly amazed by the power of Deontay Wilder, he was weight around 209 pounds when he was facing Tyson Fury the first time and the power he has is incredible, he is not the best boxer in the world but he is the heaviest puncher in the world who could knock out any human in the world. Even in Ortiz fight he did not land that punch in the jaw but in his temple and he got him floored which is incredible power to knock someone of Ortiz caliber and that is what interest me in this rematch too.

 

[DarkDays]

It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.

I am truly amazed by the power of Deontay Wilder, he was weight around 209 pounds when he was facing Tyson Fury the first time and the power he has is incredible, he is not the best boxer in the world but he is the heaviest puncher in the world who could knock out any human in the world. Even in Ortiz fight he did not land that punch in the jaw but in his temple and he got him floored which is incredible power to knock someone of Ortiz caliber and that is what interest me in this rematch too.

 

I really don't think it matters about how much they weigh, sure it's impressive to see a 210lb guy knocking out someone 250lb+

However, there starts to become a point where you get large that you can no longer generate the velocity needed to get those devastating knockouts.

Realistically, the head and jaw of the victim are roughly the same size and weight, regardless what size they are. Therefore, so long as you get a proper headshot, I doubt there is much difference between knocking out a 200lb guy, vs a 300lb one.

[Baofeng]

It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.

I am truly amazed by the power of Deontay Wilder, he was weight around 209 pounds when he was facing Tyson Fury the first time and the power he has is incredible, he is not the best boxer in the world but he is the heaviest puncher in the world who could knock out any human in the world. Even in Ortiz fight he did not land that punch in the jaw but in his temple and he got him floored which is incredible power to knock someone of Ortiz caliber and that is what interest me in this rematch too.

George Foreman discusses the punching power of Deontay Wilder

Then George mentioned these fights: Frazier vs Ellis, Frazier vs Mathis, Ali vs Foreman, Louis vs Schmeling II, and Tyson vs Berbick.

“Those fights had real KOs, of guys they’d never dropped. Louis having been beaten by Max, wins in a KO. Ellis a real champion, with skills. Ali beat an undefeated puncher in Foreman. Frazier beats the house fighter Mathis by KO. Tyson creaming Berbick, the most devastating punch I’ve seen!”

He then pivoted back to the Wilder rematch win over Ortiz. “Guys you’ve kayoed before seem to wait for you to get them again, so no claim to fame to ‘Re-KO.’ I was far from impressed. Now if AJ kayoes Ruiz I’m writing him into greatness. If Ruiz wins, Wilder gets him. I’ll start collecting everything Wilder. King of the world!”

George does give Wilder more props. “Now, for me there has not so far been any better display of pure punching power, in the heavyweight division,” he said of Wilder’s overall power pack. “Norton (in 1973) and Frazier (‘73 and ‘76) were both up when the fight was over. So not pure KOs.”

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/11/27/20985190/george-foreman-discusses-punching-power-deontay-wilder

Anyways, we all admit that Wilder has power, it's just a question if he can hit Fury again in the rematch that Tyson won't get up.

[Hypnosis00]

In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.

It for sure that they work on it otherwise, Fury will dominate the fight and put ends Wilder. Many say that this will be an intense fight and really it was knowing the fact that this might affect their boxing career. Both of them don't have losses, that is what they are protecting for and to sustain the record is really challenging. And  I expecting more big shot coming from Wilder this time the same thing he does in the previous fight.

[Ranly123]

In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.

It for sure that they work on it otherwise, Fury will dominate the fight and put ends Wilder. Many say that this will be an intense fight and really it was knowing the fact that this might affect their boxing career. Both of them don't have losses, that is what they are protecting for and to sustain the record is really challenging. And  I expecting more big shot coming from Wilder this time the same thing he does in the previous fight.

The rematch would be more intense than their first meeting. Fury utilizes his jabs while Wilder rely on his power punches but if the fight goes on and nobody got knocked down, it would be Fury to win their second outing.

[Ziskinberg]

In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.

It for sure that they work on it otherwise, Fury will dominate the fight and put ends Wilder. Many say that this will be an intense fight and really it was knowing the fact that this might affect their boxing career. Both of them don't have losses, that is what they are protecting for and to sustain the record is really challenging. And  I expecting more big shot coming from Wilder this time the same thing he does in the previous fight.

The rematch would be more intense than their first meeting. Fury utilizes his jabs while Wilder rely on his power punches but if the fight goes on and nobody got knocked down, it would be Fury to win their second outing.

For sure, fury has to follow the style of Mayweather who will prefer to score in points than to knock down an opponent, I think Fury can do that as he is faster, has a good forwork and head movement and he is winning in the scoring in their first fight, so he can surely do that again .
We don't really know the adjustment both fighters are doing but one thing I observed, Wilder is more vulnerable to losing these days.

[Darker45]

A little update here.

From the mouth of Bob Arum himself, the fight on the 22nd of February is already set in stone.

"Asked if the rematch may not happen on February 22, Arum responded: 'No. That’s pretty good. That’s in stone.'"

And the venue is also set in stone.

"And he confirmed MGM Grand in Las Vegas is the likely host, adding: 'That’s also sort of in stone.'"

The two giant networks, ESPN and FOX, are going to be involved in the promotion of this fight. The coming official announcement of this bout, Arum added, will not be a normal one, "'It is not going to be a normal announcement, it will be like a circus.'"

[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/642667/bob-arum-spectacular-tyson-fury-rematch-deontay-wilder-2-rematch-february/

[btc_angela]

^^ Very nice, everyone is really awaiting this big event early next year. And with so much hype again, this is gonna be huge and I predicted that it will be bigger than the first fight. I do hope that Joshua though will be at the ringside so who ever win this one will just have to call him out, so much drama, lol.

[Harlot]

If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

[fortunecrypto]

If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

That's true it's not over for a guy who can knock out his opponent and a guy with a knock out punch can end it anytime if he sees a good opening, Fury is a good technical fighter, but Wilder can always train to see an opening and he only needs one punch to end the match, on the second match I favor Wilder to win by knock out.

[Savemore]

If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

That's true it's not over for a guy who can knock out his opponent and a guy with a knock out punch can end it anytime if he sees a good opening, Fury is a good technical fighter, but Wilder can always train to see an opening and he only needs one punch to end the match, on the second match I favor Wilder to win by knock out.

If the rematch will happen then I will go for Wilder again. I won on my last bet between their fight. The right hand of Wilder is so deadly and it is the reason why he has 41 KOs. He's style is so different that he can easily overwhelmed the style of fury. Fury is strong but he cannot handle the power and the strength of Wilder so it is obvious that Wilder will win again via KO.

[Kemarit]

If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

Most likely boxing fans would like to see Wilder vs Joshua. Yes, I do remember, prior to Fury getting back into the picture on the heavyweight division, these two have been calling it out and words has been thrown as to who really derail the fight, so the drama is already there.

@btc_angela - unlikely that Joshua will be there to see the fight live. He might be busy preparing for his mandatory, whoever it is that time.

[NavI_027]

^^ Very nice, everyone is really awaiting this big event early next year. And with so much hype again, this is gonna be huge and I predicted that it will be bigger than the first fight. I do hope that Joshua though will be at the ringside so who ever win this one will just have to call him out, so much drama, lol.

It could probably happen because I believe that every boxer got it's own pride and each one of them have the need to beat down the person they think torn along their way to throne . Whoever win in the rematch, I'm sure that AJ is next. I mean, there are only few strong and interesting boxers in the heavyweight division (I hope Klitschko will come back soon) so why delaying these dream matches if this what people really want. Well, much better if AJ will have a chance to fight Fury and Wilder but if there must be only one then I would go with Wilder vs Joshua. I'm curious if AJ could stay on his feet and resist that heavy puncher until the end .

[uray]

^^ Very nice, everyone is really awaiting this big event early next year. And with so much hype again, this is gonna be huge and I predicted that it will be bigger than the first fight. I do hope that Joshua though will be at the ringside so who ever win this one will just have to call him out, so much drama, lol.

Wilder and Fury are the most anticipated fight the boxing fans are waiting for as majority felt that Fury won the first fight even though it ended in a draw and we need to see them fight again and i do not think that Joshua willl be challenging both these fighters anytime soon as he needs to have a few wins outside these two to have the confidence back as i really do not think he will have a chance to win against either Fury or Wilder.

[Sebas.tian]

When we talk about natural power and skills, Wilder I'd the best among the rest, we have seen what played out at the first match and hope to see a replay in that will show more of Wilder. Hopefully to see Wilder still defend his title as the best in the business. This will be the best of the best fight in the history of heavy weight championship.

[stadus]

When we talk about natural power and skills, Wilder I'd the best among the rest, we have seen what played out at the first match and hope to see a replay in that will show more of Wilder. Hopefully to see Wilder still defend his title as the best in the business. This will be the best of the best fight in the history of heavy weight championship.

Best chance for Wilder to win is to knock out his opponent and he needs to be smart in this rematch to knock Fury out so this might not end in a draw or worse Fury might win as in the previous fight a lot of fans disagree with the results, it should be fury who won the fight, and that doubt should be eliminated if Wilder will look for a kill.

[BChydro]

Best chance for Wilder to win is to knock out his opponent and he needs to be smart in this rematch to knock Fury out so this might not end in a draw or worse Fury might win as in the previous fight a lot of fans disagree with the results, it should be fury who won the fight, and that doubt should be eliminated if Wilder will look for a kill.

The only way Deontay Wilder will win this rematch is by knockout and even in his fight against Ortiz if you look at the score cards, Ortiz will be winning the rounds majority of the time and even Deontay Wilder knew he just need a punch to win the fight and even in their first fight Deontay Wilder landed a knockout blow that floored Tyson Fury but he woke up like a ghost after getting floored and that was the difference between Fury and the rest of his opponents.

[smyslov]

Two months to go and the build up is great I just hope fans and bettors will not be disappointed just like what happen to the Joshua Ruiz rematch, where it did not live to expectation, because Ruiz has been busy eating all he can going to the match, and some people call him scammer for not going to the fight well prepared.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Two months to go and the build up is great I just hope fans and bettors will not be disappointed just like what happen to the Joshua Ruiz rematch, where it did not live to expectation, because Ruiz has been busy eating all he can going to the match, and some people call him scammer for not going to the fight well prepared.

When you have Tyson Fury in the mix then you will have an entertaining pre match build up as he is good in the microphone and he will elevate the opponents as well, the pre match built up of Joshua and Ruiz was not that entertaining and we all know the reason as Joshua was coming back after his first professional loss and everyone will make excuses after a defeat and it is not a new thing.

[Kasabus]

Fury is going to win in this match if this will reach in round 12.
Fury is a better boxer but wilder should use his power in this fight and knock Fury which he was not able to make in the first fight.

Sure thing, this fight will draw a big crowd and a big PPV as well, hopefully I'll be able to watch this in PPV as I like how fury bullying the bully in the ring. 

[mich]

Fury accepts Joshua's sparring offer ahead of Wilder rematch

Tyson Fury says he is willing to take up fellow Briton Anthony Joshua's offer of sparring to prepare for his February rematch with WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/fury-accepts-joshuas-sparring-offer-040944351.html

[Yaunfitda]

And for those who have doubts about the awkward statement made my Anthony Joshua, I dig youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDc9JPrzvs4

Go forward 0:40, and you will hear it straight from Joshua's mouth.

[Baofeng]

And for those who have doubts about the awkward statement made my Anthony Joshua, I dig youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDc9JPrzvs4

Go forward 0:40, and you will hear it straight from Joshua's mouth.

Here is Fury's response though,

Tyson Fury Holds Nose at Joshua's Win, Rips Apart Sparring Offer

"They offered hot air as usual. I accepted, they haven’t turned up, take what you want from it, that’s it. Joshua’s nothing like Wilder but I’d like to bring him over and give him a good hiding anyway. But they’re not going to come, let’s face it," Fury told BoxingScene.com.

"They’re not going to come over and get beat up in sparring. It was just a stupid offer at a stupid time - wasn’t thinking, I accepted straight away, me being me, and that was it. I don’t read into it too much, he ain’t coming, simple as. He ain’t got the bollocks to turn up and spar, end of."

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-holds-nose-joshuas-win-rips-apart-sparring-offer--145960

Clearly, he doesn't like the idea, and I like him saying that he is going to beat up Joshua in the sparring. They might cross path in the future, so it's better for them not to really spar as no one will really get the benefits of it. The rematch is just about a month from now, and as we gets closer, I'm sure a lot of media are going to cover and it will make the fight more exciting with trash talking.

[DeathAngel]

Fury accepts Joshua's sparring offer ahead of Wilder rematch

Tyson Fury says he is willing to take up fellow Briton Anthony Joshua's offer of sparring to prepare for his February rematch with WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/fury-accepts-joshuas-sparring-offer-040944351.html

I don’t see why not. It’s probably perfect preparation for Fury, there probably isn’t a more perfect sparring partner. Prepare for the best by sparring with the best.

[uray]

When we talk about natural power and skills, Wilder I'd the best among the rest, we have seen what played out at the first match and hope to see a replay in that will show more of Wilder. Hopefully to see Wilder still defend his title as the best in the business. This will be the best of the best fight in the history of heavy weight championship.

There is a slight change in that phrase, Wilder has natural crazy power his size and he is weighing around 208 pounds but you cannot call him as a skillful boxer as he knows his weakness and strength and that is the biggest thing you need to be a world champion, if you are able to identify your weakness and strength you can go a long way while on the other hand Tyson Fury is a skillful boxer but not having the knockout power, so the fight is always how Fury will mitigate the power of Wilder and whether Wilder is able to land the knockout punch.

[suzanne5223]

And for those who have doubts about the awkward statement made my Anthony Joshua, I dig youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDc9JPrzvs4

Go forward 0:40, and you will hear it straight from Joshua's mouth.

Here is Fury's response though,

Tyson Fury Holds Nose at Joshua's Win, Rips Apart Sparring Offer

"They offered hot air as usual. I accepted, they haven’t turned up, take what you want from it, that’s it. Joshua’s nothing like Wilder but I’d like to bring him over and give him a good hiding anyway. But they’re not going to come, let’s face it," Fury told BoxingScene.com.

"They’re not going to come over and get beat up in sparring. It was just a stupid offer at a stupid time - wasn’t thinking, I accepted straight away, me being me, and that was it. I don’t read into it too much, he ain’t coming, simple as. He ain’t got the bollocks to turn up and spar, end of."

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-holds-nose-joshuas-win-rips-apart-sparring-offer--145960

Clearly, he doesn't like the idea, and I like him saying that he is going to beat up Joshua in the sparring. They might cross paths in the future, so it's better for them not to really spar as no one will really get the benefits of it. The rematch is just about a month from now, and as we get closer, I'm sure a lot of media are going to cover and it will make the fight more exciting with trash talking.

Firstly, i believe none of them (Anthony or Fury) like the impression of the two being a sparring partner when there's a huge chance for them to face each other in the future but the sparring invitation was just a test from Anthony side which is the reason Fury don't get any response back.
Meanwhile, if i were you i won't buy all the statements made by Fury in terms of beating Anthony cause it just a hype statement.

[7788bitcoin]

Fury accepts Joshua's sparring offer ahead of Wilder rematch

I don’t see why not. It’s probably perfect preparation for Fury, there probably isn’t a more perfect sparring partner. Prepare for the best by sparring with the best.

It is a great gesture by Anthony Joshua if he really spars with Tyson Fury because none of the fighters would do that if they see a potential fight with them in the future as these sparring sessions will expose the weakness they have and if he really does that it is great. I am waiting for the match as the hype is really high and it will be one of the biggest PPV in boxing for a long time.

[DarkDays]

Fury accepts Joshua's sparring offer ahead of Wilder rematch

Tyson Fury says he is willing to take up fellow Briton Anthony Joshua's offer of sparring to prepare for his February rematch with WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder.

https://sports.yahoo.com/fury-accepts-joshuas-sparring-offer-040944351.html

I don’t see why not. It’s probably perfect preparation for Fury, there probably isn’t a more perfect sparring partner. Prepare for the best by sparring with the best.

Or more likely, make a statement without thinking and then fail to follow up on it.

So far, AJ hasn't showed up to spar Tyson Fury, probably because he realizes it makes him look like the beta versus Fury.

Also, AJ would have absolutely nothing to gain from sparring fury, except a small amount of experience should they ever need to meet in the ring.

Hopefully, he does follow through though, there's still more than a month before the big fight so there's still time.

[Zicadis]

Or more likely, make a statement without thinking and then fail to follow up on it.

So far, AJ hasn't showed up to spar Tyson Fury, probably because he realizes it makes him look like the beta versus Fury.

Also, AJ would have absolutely nothing to gain from sparring fury, except a small amount of experience should they ever need to meet in the ring.

Hopefully, he does follow through though, there's still more than a month before the big fight so there's still time.

I think it was just a publicity stunt. Anthony Joshua doesn't need to spar Tyson Fury, and vice-versa. However, they do need to begin hyping up their inevitable fight. It's always good to start early!

Whatever the case, I think Joshua will follow through on his offer if the fans really push for it, though I doubt enough people will since most boxing fans are casuals.

[Natalim]

Or more likely, make a statement without thinking and then fail to follow up on it.

So far, AJ hasn't showed up to spar Tyson Fury, probably because he realizes it makes him look like the beta versus Fury.

Also, AJ would have absolutely nothing to gain from sparring fury, except a small amount of experience should they ever need to meet in the ring.

Hopefully, he does follow through though, there's still more than a month before the big fight so there's still time.

I think it was just a publicity stunt. Anthony Joshua doesn't need to spar Tyson Fury, and vice-versa. However, they do need to begin hyping up their inevitable fight. It's always good to start early!

Whatever the case, I think Joshua will follow through on his offer if the fans really push for it, though I doubt enough people will since most boxing fans are casuals.

After this fight even Fury loss as long as the loss is not so devastating(I hope), AJ and Fury would still be an exciting fight, however, it's not as exciting as Wilder vs AJ as we could potentially see a knock out on this fight, I predict coming from Wilder of course.

[ene1980]

After this fight even Fury loss as long as the loss is not so devastating(I hope), AJ and Fury would still be an exciting fight, however, it's not as exciting as Wilder vs AJ as we could potentially see a knock out on this fight, I predict coming from Wilder of course.

I thought Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder would be a great boxing match before the Andy Ruiz fight but not anymore and we know how he won the rematch against Ruiz and to expect Anthony Joshua to knock out Deontay Wilder is a fantasy as he does have a good chin and he even took some good shots from Luis Ortiz and did not go down and if he can take shots from Ortiz then he can probably take from Joshua too and i am expecting Wilder to knock Joshua out silly  . Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua will be a great fight to see the baddest boxer in UK and it will be a successful PPV fight.

[KnightElite]

After this fight even Fury loss as long as the loss is not so devastating(I hope), AJ and Fury would still be an exciting fight, however, it's not as exciting as Wilder vs AJ as we could potentially see a knock out on this fight, I predict coming from Wilder of course.

I thought Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder would be a great boxing match before the Andy Ruiz fight but not anymore and we know how he won the rematch against Ruiz and to expect Anthony Joshua to knock out Deontay Wilder is a fantasy as he does have a good chin and he even took some good shots from Luis Ortiz and did not go down and if he can take shots from Ortiz then he can probably take from Joshua too and i am expecting Wilder to knock Joshua out silly  . Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua will be a great fight to see the baddest boxer in UK and it will be a successful PPV fight.

The numerous knockouts of Wilder proving that he is ruling the heavyweight world in boxing. If the rematch is on, my chicken will be Wilder; I'll bet on his side because there is a high chance that the history will repeat itself. It is obvious that wilder has a lot of odds in terms of skill and power. They are both arrogant but the important thing is only one of them who can become champion again.

[NavI_027]

I thought Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder would be a great boxing match before the Andy Ruiz fight but not anymore and we know how he won the rematch against Ruiz and to expect Anthony Joshua to knock out Deontay Wilder is a fantasy as he does have a good chin and he even took some good shots from Luis Ortiz and did not go down and if he can take shots from Ortiz then he can probably take from Joshua too and i am expecting Wilder to knock Joshua out silly  .

I'm thinking the same thing too . After I've watched the first Joshua - Ruiz fight, I already realize that AJ was still far from Wilder's capacity lol. I mean, Joshua find a hard time against Ruiz so what more if  he is going to face a more dangerous opponent? No way! Wilder got a very high knockout power, I don't think AJ can survive all 12 rounds with him.

[Fundamentals Of]

And now that this fight is already set in stone, we will be seeing a nice showdown of great fighters this early in the year. I will not be predicting at this stage. I am torn 50:50 on both fighters. Both are obviously capable enough to defeat each other. Wilder is a strong one-puncher, as proven in their last battle, but we also saw how Fury proved that he is man enough to withstand it and make a draw.

[Reatim]

Or more likely, make a statement without thinking and then fail to follow up on it.

So far, AJ hasn't showed up to spar Tyson Fury, probably because he realizes it makes him look like the beta versus Fury.

Also, AJ would have absolutely nothing to gain from sparring fury, except a small amount of experience should they ever need to meet in the ring.

Hopefully, he does follow through though, there's still more than a month before the big fight so there's still time.

I think it was just a publicity stunt. Anthony Joshua doesn't need to spar Tyson Fury, and vice-versa. However, they do need to begin hyping up their inevitable fight. It's always good to start early!

Whatever the case, I think Joshua will follow through on his offer if the fans really push for it, though I doubt enough people will since most boxing fans are casuals.

of course that is an obvious publicity gimik,because why a prospective opponent will be a sparring partner ?does it sounds stupid when they can both learn and experience each other before going up the ring together in the future?

if this is the case then why not each boxers that will have a match may have a fight first for sparring before the final bought?nope AJ wont go to this for sure,and at least successful publicity because it seems that people react to this one.

[Vaculin]

And now that this fight is already set in stone, we will be seeing a nice showdown of great fighters this early in the year. I will not be predicting at this stage. I am torn 50:50 on both fighters. Both are obviously capable enough to defeat each other. Wilder is a strong one-puncher, as proven in their last battle, but we also saw how Fury proved that he is man enough to withstand it and make a draw.

This will be as good as the fight one, or even better, if the fight out turns out a draw, probably we will see a winner here as for sure Fury will adjust and he will make sure he will not be rob again, while Wilder is looking for a one time kO.

[TopTort777]

Find out recently, that Fury had changed his coach. As I understood, he expects, that new coach will teach him how to KO Wilder (as he said, he could have done it in first fight, but don't have enough strength to do it)

[Zicadis]

Or more likely, make a statement without thinking and then fail to follow up on it.

So far, AJ hasn't showed up to spar Tyson Fury, probably because he realizes it makes him look like the beta versus Fury.

Also, AJ would have absolutely nothing to gain from sparring fury, except a small amount of experience should they ever need to meet in the ring.

Hopefully, he does follow through though, there's still more than a month before the big fight so there's still time.

I think it was just a publicity stunt. Anthony Joshua doesn't need to spar Tyson Fury, and vice-versa. However, they do need to begin hyping up their inevitable fight. It's always good to start early!

Whatever the case, I think Joshua will follow through on his offer if the fans really push for it, though I doubt enough people will since most boxing fans are casuals.

of course that is an obvious publicity gimik,because why a prospective opponent will be a sparring partner ?does it sounds stupid when they can both learn and experience each other before going up the ring together in the future?

if this is the case then why not each boxers that will have a match may have a fight first for sparring before the final bought?nope AJ wont go to this for sure,and at least successful publicity because it seems that people react to this one.

Well even if they both get experience of one another in sparring, this doesn't give anybody an edge per-se.

After all, both Joshua and Fury will be able to feel eachother out, and will definitely be able to take something home from their sparring. It could also give AJ a good way to stay in fighting condition throughout the year, rather than taking a lay-off until he finally gets another opponent.

This will probably take at least 3-4 months considering that Joshua usually only fights a couple times a year, or three at most.

[ene1980]

The numerous knockouts of Wilder proving that he is ruling the heavyweight world in boxing. If the rematch is on, my chicken will be Wilder; I'll bet on his side because there is a high chance that the history will repeat itself. It is obvious that wilder has a lot of odds in terms of skill and power. They are both arrogant but the important thing is only one of them who can become champion again.

In a long time the heavyweight boxing is interesting again because of exciting characters and fighters who can attract the audience with their personality and fighting skills and it was lacking i boxing for a long time, there is no doubt about the power of Wilder and if he is able to land that punch he is able to drop any fighter and how long the opponent is able to avoid that is the interesting fact in his fights.

I don't think AJ can survive all 12 rounds with him.

If AJ makes his mind to fight Wilder then i am going to make a bet for knockout win for Wilder within 8 rounds  .

[Baofeng]

Find out recently, that Fury had changed his coach. As I understood, he expects, that new coach will teach him how to KO Wilder (as he said, he could have done it in first fight, but don't have enough strength to do it)

And this is what Fury says,

"If I Don't Knock Wilder Out, It Doesn't Count!"

“I’m really eliminating all of the outside distractions this time. I eat, sleep, train and repeat. I’m eating five-to-six meals a day. I’m drinking many liters of water a day. I don’t really do anything else. I don’t go out. I don’t see people. I don’t speak to anyone on the phone. I don’t do emails. I don’t search Google,” said Fury.

“This is the first training camp in 10 years that I haven’t had a Diet Coke. This is the first training camp where I’m literally going to bed early every night at 9:30 p.m. I wake up every morning at 7 a.m. fresh as a daisy. I literally live in training camp like a Spartan and Trojan warrior, and that’s it. I don’t really know if any of that even matters on the night. It didn’t matter before. But if it’s willing to give me an edge on the night of the fight, than I’m willing to try it. Why not? What will happen on Feb. 22 is all in the hands of the gods.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-if-i-knock-wilder-out-it-count--145980

So let's see if he can do it he is more focus on this fight than ever. I doubt it though, but who knows, when the knock out presented itself, I'm sure Fury (or any other boxers) will go for it.

[Viscore]

Find out recently, that Fury had changed his coach. As I understood, he expects, that new coach will teach him how to KO Wilder (as he said, he could have done it in first fight, but don't have enough strength to do it)

And this is what Fury says,

"If I Don't Knock Wilder Out, It Doesn't Count!"

“I’m really eliminating all of the outside distractions this time. I eat, sleep, train and repeat. I’m eating five-to-six meals a day. I’m drinking many liters of water a day. I don’t really do anything else. I don’t go out. I don’t see people. I don’t speak to anyone on the phone. I don’t do emails. I don’t search Google,” said Fury.

“This is the first training camp in 10 years that I haven’t had a Diet Coke. This is the first training camp where I’m literally going to bed early every night at 9:30 p.m. I wake up every morning at 7 a.m. fresh as a daisy. I literally live in training camp like a Spartan and Trojan warrior, and that’s it. I don’t really know if any of that even matters on the night. It didn’t matter before. But if it’s willing to give me an edge on the night of the fight, than I’m willing to try it. Why not? What will happen on Feb. 22 is all in the hands of the gods.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-if-i-knock-wilder-out-it-count--145980

So let's see if he can do it he is more focus on this fight than ever. I doubt it though, but who knows, when the knock out presented itself, I'm sure Fury (or any other boxers) will go for it.

Fury looking for KO is a bad idea, he just have to stay with his jab as its where he is more effected because if he will go aggressive trying to KO Wilder, he might get hit by a good counter and we know the strength of Wilder, he is capable of knocking an opponent with one punch only.

[Fundamentals Of]

And now that this fight is already set in stone, we will be seeing a nice showdown of great fighters this early in the year. I will not be predicting at this stage. I am torn 50:50 on both fighters. Both are obviously capable enough to defeat each other. Wilder is a strong one-puncher, as proven in their last battle, but we also saw how Fury proved that he is man enough to withstand it and make a draw.

This will be as good as the fight one, or even better, if the fight out turns out a draw, probably we will see a winner here as for sure Fury will adjust and he will make sure he will not be rob again, while Wilder is looking for a one time kO.

My idea is that this is going to be much better than the previous one. There is already increasing bad blood between the two in this match compared to their first match. Words are getting sharper and harsher. This will probably end up in a KO. There is more excitement and the anticipation is higher in this second fight.

[Golftech]

And now that this fight is already set in stone, we will be seeing a nice showdown of great fighters this early in the year. I will not be predicting at this stage. I am torn 50:50 on both fighters. Both are obviously capable enough to defeat each other. Wilder is a strong one-puncher, as proven in their last battle, but we also saw how Fury proved that he is man enough to withstand it and make a draw.

This will be as good as the fight one, or even better, if the fight out turns out a draw, probably we will see a winner here as for sure Fury will adjust and he will make sure he will not be rob again, while Wilder is looking for a one time kO.

My idea is that this is going to be much better than the previous one. There is already increasing bad blood between the two in this match compared to their first match. Words are getting sharper and harsher. This will probably end up in a KO. There is more excitement and the anticipation is higher in this second fight.

More aggressive from both ends One boxer will prove that he deserve the win and the other one will do everything to prove also that he should have the title. It's more exciting as for sure we will see more  adjustments and the aimed for both fighters to win with a KO proving that the  win is more sweeter once you give the big punch out.

[fortunecrypto]

And now that this fight is already set in stone, we will be seeing a nice showdown of great fighters this early in the year. I will not be predicting at this stage. I am torn 50:50 on both fighters. Both are obviously capable enough to defeat each other. Wilder is a strong one-puncher, as proven in their last battle, but we also saw how Fury proved that he is man enough to withstand it and make a draw.

This will be as good as the fight one, or even better, if the fight out turns out a draw, probably we will see a winner here as for sure Fury will adjust and he will make sure he will not be rob again, while Wilder is looking for a one time kO.

My idea is that this is going to be much better than the previous one. There is already increasing bad blood between the two in this match compared to their first match. Words are getting sharper and harsher. This will probably end up in a KO. There is more excitement and the anticipation is higher in this second fight.

It is indeed higher but if anyone of them will be more careful is Fury he was down twice in the fight, Wilder can score a big knock out here if he can land big punches in the early round, the big problem is Fury is such a good technical boxer, his hands are very fast and can always land, anyone who wins the match will have a megabuck fight against Joshua.

[7788bitcoin]

So let's see if he can do it he is more focus on this fight than ever. I doubt it though, but who knows, when the knock out presented itself, I'm sure Fury (or any other boxers) will go for it.

It shows that Tyson Fury is really confident in his rematch as he might be thinking that if it goes to the judge the possibility of getting a decision in favor of Fury is really slim as we saw in the last fight but it is a huge task as Tyson Fury is not known as a knockout fighter but an accumulation guy. The fight is really interesting because of the hype and the contest is really interesting and Fury and Wilder will improve and up their performance in the rematch.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Find out recently, that Fury had changed his coach. As I understood, he expects, that new coach will teach him how to KO Wilder (as he said, he could have done it in first fight, but don't have enough strength to do it)

The knockout power is something that cannot be coached, either you got the power or you do not and Wilder is the scariest knockout fighter i have seen considering the size and weight in the heavyweight division in a long time and Tyson Fury is all about technical. I saw the press conference but it was a bit boring.

[TopTort777]

The knockout power is something that cannot be coached, either you got the power or you do not

Really? The knockout power is just a kinetic energy. But in fact, it is more about technique (that can be taught or improved), than just energy

[Fundamentals Of]

And now that this fight is already set in stone, we will be seeing a nice showdown of great fighters this early in the year. I will not be predicting at this stage. I am torn 50:50 on both fighters. Both are obviously capable enough to defeat each other. Wilder is a strong one-puncher, as proven in their last battle, but we also saw how Fury proved that he is man enough to withstand it and make a draw.

This will be as good as the fight one, or even better, if the fight out turns out a draw, probably we will see a winner here as for sure Fury will adjust and he will make sure he will not be rob again, while Wilder is looking for a one time kO.

My idea is that this is going to be much better than the previous one. There is already increasing bad blood between the two in this match compared to their first match. Words are getting sharper and harsher. This will probably end up in a KO. There is more excitement and the anticipation is higher in this second fight.

It is indeed higher but if anyone of them will be more careful is Fury he was down twice in the fight, Wilder can score a big knock out here if he can land big punches in the early round, the big problem is Fury is such a good technical boxer, his hands are very fast and can always land, anyone who wins the match will have a megabuck fight against Joshua.

Either of both fighters deserve a win after this match. It seems Fury can win this fight if he is not caught with a straight that would put him to sleep on the canvas. Wilder has the punch but if that punch won't put an end to the fight, Fury can still earn point after point and make winning rounds. I just wish Fury would leave away the nonsense taunting and showboating inside the ring. They are unnecessary.

[Viscore]

Either of both fighters deserve a win after this match. It seems Fury can win this fight if he is not caught with a straight that would put him to sleep on the canvas.

Well, Fury was down 2 times in the last fight if I count it correctly but he was able to get up and fight as nothing happens,, therefore I would say that he can take the punch of Fury, but it that knock down happens in the early round, it could be different.

Wilder has the punch but if that punch won't put an end to the fight, Fury can still earn point after point and make winning rounds. I just wish Fury would leave away the nonsense taunting and showboating inside the ring. They are unnecessary.

That's his style, and that's what makes him gain the support of the fans, though he is taunting but his action speaks as well.

[uray]

Well, Fury was down 2 times in the last fight if I count it correctly but he was able to get up and fight as nothing happens,, therefore I would say that he can take the punch of Fury, but it that knock down happens in the early round, it could be different.

Wilder was not even able to connect the punch for most of the entire fight until he connected one in the final bouts and Fury went down and he is the first fighter that got up from a Wilder punch and then went on to win the rest of the rounds. Tyson Fury now predicts that he is going to knock out Wilder but i am sure Fury knows that it is impossible for him to win a decision in the US.
 

[TravelMug]

Find out recently, that Fury had changed his coach. As I understood, he expects, that new coach will teach him how to KO Wilder (as he said, he could have done it in first fight, but don't have enough strength to do it)

The knockout power is something that cannot be coached, either you got the power or you do not and Wilder is the scariest knockout fighter i have seen considering the size and weight in the heavyweight division in a long time and Tyson Fury is all about technical. I saw the press conference but it was a bit boring.

Well if you have a great coach + God given talents then that is one potent combination.

And if everything is presents itself to you, even a non knock out puncher can literally smash someone and knock them cold. But I would agree that Fury shouldn't look for the knock out here, I mean he is a technical boxer, he should use it because it was really effective against Fury in their first fight. But as I have said, he was caught in the last round, but miraculously was able to get up finished the fight. He had tasted Fury's power, he just need to adjust again in order to win in their rematch.

[ene1980]

Wilder was not even able to connect the punch for most of the entire fight until he connected one in the final bouts and Fury went down and he is the first fighter that got up from a Wilder punch

Deontay Wilder does not need to connect every punch and throughout his career his fighting strategy is simple all he needs is to have the patience and wait for the opportunity to land his knockout punch and once it is connected they are going down and Tyson Fury is the only fighter that got up after getting connected with a Deontay Wilder knockout punch and so is the reason the rematch is interesting.

[Fundamentals Of]

Either of both fighters deserve a win after this match. It seems Fury can win this fight if he is not caught with a straight that would put him to sleep on the canvas.

Well, Fury was down 2 times in the last fight if I count it correctly but he was able to get up and fight as nothing happens,, therefore I would say that he can take the punch of Fury, but it that knock down happens in the early round, it could be different.

Fury could take the punch of Wilder you mean? Yes, I agree. Wilder is a strong puncher but not a volume puncher. He lacks the follow up to put Fury down once again very quickly right after the previous one. Because of that, Fury could have enough time to recover.

Wilder has the punch but if that punch won't put an end to the fight, Fury can still earn point after point and make winning rounds. I just wish Fury would leave away the nonsense taunting and showboating inside the ring. They are unnecessary.

That's his style, and that's what makes him gain the support of the fans, though he is taunting but his action speaks as well.

I guess this second match is going to be a little different. He cannot be as relaxed as before.

[suzanne5223]

Either of both fighters deserve a win after this match. It seems Fury can win this fight if he is not caught with a straight that would put him to sleep on the canvas.

Well, Fury was down 2 times in the last fight if I count it correctly but he was able to get up and fight as nothing happens,, therefore I would say that he can take the punch of Fury, but it that knock down happens in the early round, it could be different.

Fury could take the punch of Wilder you mean? Yes, I agree. Wilder is a strong puncher but not a volume puncher. He lacks the follow up to put Fury down once again very quickly right after the previous one. Because of that, Fury could have enough time to recover.

I will agree with you on this one if their last fight dont end in a controversial way and with all the statement made by Fury on Instagram challenging Wilder calling him a room trainer, i dont think the previous fight should be use to judge Wilder action in the upcoming fight.

Wilder has the punch but if that punch won't put an end to the fight, Fury can still earn point after point and make winning rounds. I just wish Fury would leave away the nonsense taunting and showboating inside the ring. They are unnecessary.

That's his style, and that's what makes him gain the support of the fans, though he is taunting but his action speaks as well.

I guess this second match is going to be a little different. He cannot be as relaxed as before.

I Fundamental Fury need to keep his taunting cause there's no need for that cause he need to focus most on the fight and hos opponet strategy which is also what Anthony did to regain his belt.

[ene1980]

I will agree with you on this one if their last fight dont end in a controversial way and with all the statement made by Fury on Instagram challenging Wilder calling him a room trainer,

Tyson Fury is known to crack jokes and that is the way he is normally and there is no doubt that the first fight was controversial because if you take the rounds then it is clear that Tyson Fury won majority of the rounds but Wilder had a few good moments in the entire fight and even after getting knocked out Fury was landing punches till the final bell.

i dont think the previous fight should be use to judge Wilder action in the upcoming fight.

Both the fighters now have a clear understanding about the opponent and so it is really interesting on how they are going to game plan this fight, will Wilder wait till the last moment to land the knockout punch or Fury will avoid that.

[suzanne5223]

I will agree with you on this one if their last fight don't end in a controversial way and with all the statement made by Fury on Instagram challenging Wilder calling him a room trainer,

Tyson Fury is known to crack jokes and that is the way he is normally and there is no doubt that the first fight was controversial because if you make the rounds then it is clear that Tyson Fury won majority of the rounds but Wilder had a few good moments in the entire fight and even after getting knocked out Fury was landing punches till the final bell.

This is one of the reasons why their previous fight was controversial because Wilder worth to be winning the fight due to the punches he landed on Fury's body but the upcoming fight will clear all the doubt though.

i dont think the previous fight should be use to judge Wilder action in the upcoming fight.

Both the fighters now have a clear understanding about the opponent and so it is really interesting on how they are going to game plan this fight, will Wilder wait till the last moment to land the knockout punch or Fury will avoid that.

You're right cause i also believe both fighters have somehow understand each either but i dont think Wilder will wait till the last moment before he unleash his knockout punch.

[Viscore]

Well, Fury was down 2 times in the last fight if I count it correctly but he was able to get up and fight as nothing happens,, therefore I would say that he can take the punch of Fury, but it that knock down happens in the early round, it could be different.

Wilder was not even able to connect the punch for most of the entire fight until he connected one in the final bouts and Fury went down and he is the first fighter that got up from a Wilder punch and then went on to win the rest of the rounds. Tyson Fury now predicts that he is going to knock out Wilder but i am sure Fury knows that it is impossible for him to win a decision in the US.
 

Fury is strong, but he got careless because he got knock down in the fight, he should avoid that in order for him to win.
He has the advantage on the height and the reach I guess, so he needs to just calm down, stick around and just continue to the scoring, without a knock down by Wilder in fight number 1, Fury could have won the fight easily, probably a UD.

[suzanne5223]

Well, Fury was down 2 times in the last fight if I count it correctly but he was able to get up and fight as nothing happens,, therefore I would say that he can take the punch of Fury, but it that knock down happens in the early round, it could be different.

Wilder was not even able to connect the punch for most of the entire fight until he connected one in the final bouts and Fury went down and he is the first fighter that got up from a Wilder punch and then went on to win the rest of the rounds. Tyson Fury now predicts that he is going to knock out Wilder but i am sure Fury knows that it is impossible for him to win a decision in the US.
 

Fury is strong, but he got careless because he got knock down in the fight, he should avoid that in order for him to win.
He has the advantage on the height and the reach I guess, so he needs to just calm down, stick around and just continue to the scoring, without a knock down by Wilder

If that be the issue, then Fury have to left aside all his fighting entertainment skills (taunting and showboating) and focus more on his opponent just like the Clash of the dunes which some people criticized not be fascinating or else Wilder will knock him down more than he expect.

in fight number 1, Fury could have won the fight easily, probably a UD.

Dont have a clue of what you mean by UD.

[mirakal]

in fight number 1, Fury could have won the fight easily, probably a UD.

Dont have a clue of what you mean by UD.

UD means Unanimous decision.. well, he could have won that as he dominated most of the rounds, but that knock down were able to gave Wilder a chance to make it a close fight and it was announce as DRAW in the end.

in this rematch, anyone thinking of taking the DRAW again? in my book the odds is x16

[btc_angela]

in fight number 1, Fury could have won the fight easily, probably a UD.

Dont have a clue of what you mean by UD.

UD means Unanimous decision.. well, he could have won that as he dominated most of the rounds, but that knock down were able to gave Wilder a chance to make it a close fight and it was announce as DRAW in the end.

in this rematch, anyone thinking of taking the DRAW again? in my book the odds is x16

Damn, what are the odds that it will ended up in a draw? Anyways, I don't think it will ended the same, both fighters have seen the strength and weaknesses and I'm sure that they will try to negate it. Fury is shouting that he is looking for a KO (knock-out), and not let everything go on the hands of the judges because the first fight was very controversial. Him dominating Wilder in the early rounds is enough for him to win in my scorecard.

[Vaculin]

Fury is shouting that he is looking for a KO (knock-out), and not let everything go on the hands of the judges because the first fight was very controversial.

If he can do that, if I am not mistake, Wilder was never been knock down because this guy is strong and can easily recover.

Him dominating Wilder in the early rounds is enough for him to win in my scorecard.

Fury's style is not the problem, in the eyes of the many, he won the fight, maybe this time, they need to have a more credible judges and avoid getting knock down again, that's the only thing he has to do and he'll win.

[narcopop]

Fury is shouting that he is looking for a KO (knock-out), and not let everything go on the hands of the judges because the first fight was very controversial.

If he can do that, if I am not mistake, Wilder was never been knock down because this guy is strong and can easily recover.

Him dominating Wilder in the early rounds is enough for him to win in my scorecard.

Fury's style is not the problem, in the eyes of the many, he won the fight, maybe this time, they need to have a more credible judges and avoid getting knock down again, that's the only thing he has to do and he'll win.

Fury's style can be his biggest advantage. Intelligent defensive for the whole night might be the one and only thing to stop Bronze Bomber.

[Clement Kaliyar]

he could have won that as he dominated most of the rounds, but that knock down were able to gave Wilder a chance to make it a close fight and it was announce as DRAW in the end.

in this rematch, anyone thinking of taking the DRAW again? in my book the odds is x16

The reason we have rounds is to score the fights according to the rounds won and anyone who saw the fight know who won the rounds and if someone lands a good punch in two rounds in a 12 round fight and because Wilder landed the heaviest punch does not mean that it was a close fight, in all of the fights Wilder is involved he just want to land a punch to win the fight as he looses most of the rounds in the scorecard and in the fight against Fury he landed the punch in the late rounds but that was not enough to win the fight and the decision should have gone to Fury for winning most of the rounds.

[NavI_027]

The reason we have rounds is to score the fights according to the rounds won and anyone who saw the fight know who won the rounds and if someone lands a good punch in two rounds in a 12 round fight and because Wilder landed the heaviest punch does not mean that it was a close fight, in all of the fights Wilder is involved he just want to land a punch to win the fight as he looses most of the rounds in the scorecard and in the fight against Fury he landed the punch in the late rounds but that was not enough to win the fight and the decision should have gone to Fury for winning most of the rounds.

I know that score per round is very important on determining the winner if and only both fighters never get down to canvass. But if someone get even a single knockdown, the scoring will be greatly affected and everything will shift in favor of the opposing fighter. And what I think of it is fair, because iny opinion the impact and damage you've done is still the main basis of this game after all . Once your back touch the ground at the 12th round, all of your consistency on the last 11 rounds will suddenly washed out. But well it still depends on how you struggle on getting up (that's why I think they end up to draw. Fury doesn't get hurt too much on that knockdown).

[Baofeng]

Ok, I've been hearing this news as of late, the Klitschko knock out Wilder during one of their sparring. I would understand the situation then, because that time Wilder is still green and just a young prospect. But Whyte is the one that spread this rumour, so Klitschko's training denied the Wilder was knock out cold, but he did say that he was knock down.

"I've seen him getting knocked out," Whyte told Sky Sports. "Wladimir knocked him out. It wasn't no knockdown, he was knocked cold. Properly twitching as well. That's why they probably didn't want him to fight Wlad, because Wlad was going to fight him as a pro and Wilder never fancied it the whole time."

From Johnathon Banks, who took over the training duties of former heavyweight king Wladimir Klitschko after Emanuel Steward passed away in 2012

"Did Wilder get knocked out cold in sparring by Wladimir? No, that's the truth it didn't happen. Did he get dropped? Yes he did."

https://www.boxingscene.com/klitschkos-trainer-wilder-not-get-knocked-out-he-get-dropped--146101

[DarkDays]

https://www.boxingscene.com/klitschkos-trainer-wilder-not-get-knocked-out-he-get-dropped--146101

Don't know why people even bring up sparring, and why even mention it when Wilder was just a youngblood against the unified heavyweight champion... Seems pointless.

Practically everybody has been dropped at some point either in sparring or in the amateurs, most of the time nobody is around to talk about it, and especially in the higher ranks it all gets hushed up.

However, I really don't think there's much to draw from it, since no man is impervious to getting dropped by the right punch.

And with a guy like Wladimir who hits like a truck, this is doubly true.

[suzanne5223]

in fight number 1, Fury could have won the fight easily, probably a UD.

Dont have a clue of what you mean by UD.

UD means Unanimous decision.. well, he could have won that as he dominated most of the rounds, but that knock down were able to gave Wilder a chance to make it a close fight and it was announce as DRAW in the end.

in this rematch, anyone thinking of taking the DRAW again? in my book the odds is x16

Anyways, I don't think it will ended the same, both fighters have seen the strength and weaknesses and I'm sure that they will try to negate it. Fury is shouting that he is looking for a KO (knock-out), and not let everything go on the hands of the judges because the first fight was very controversial. Him dominating Wilder in the early rounds is enough for him to win in my scorecard.

You guys are both right about Fury performances but nothing is impossible buddy. However, I'm sure the two fighters will want to settle the scores for real this time and I'm pretty sure Wilder won't take it easy on Fury because he has said too much on Instagram.

Damn, what are the odds that it will ended up in a draw?

x16 as he has mentioned before.

[btc_angela]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

[Zicadis]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

[Saisher]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

[Jating]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

I agree, neither Fury or Wilder will have a chance against a prime Mike Tyson, If I'm not mistaken, Mike also fought a lot of taller guys (but not as tall as Fury), and Tyson did demolished them in a couple of rounds.

No need to make this fantasy fights though, I think whoever says did are just hyping the rematch. And as what we always says in sports, different era's, so can't really compare them.

[matchi2011]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

That's really a big advantages  from Fury's side even Tyson from his prime really have the killer punch but that height advantage will be a big
difference. Though there's no chance to conclude this one out, as they reign in different era. Fighting skills and conditioning with training coaches
also play big.

[South Park]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

Those are some really major words if you ask me, the prime of Tyson did not last long because of several issues in his personal life but at his prime he was a force of nature, he was one of the scariest fighters I have ever seen, he was very aggressive and once he had you where he wanted you had no way to escape, I do no really think that any of the top fighters in the heavyweight division of this day could have beaten Tyson on his prime but if they want to believe otherwise then let them since at the end we know the answer.

[BALIK]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

Those are some really major words if you ask me, the prime of Tyson did not last long because of several issues in his personal life but at his prime he was a force of nature, he was one of the scariest fighters I have ever seen, he was very aggressive and once he had you where he wanted you had no way to escape, I do no really think that any of the top fighters in the heavyweight division of this day could have beaten Tyson on his prime but if they want to believe otherwise then let them since at the end we know the answer.

Nobody has that aggression these days. Almost all boxers play it safe and try to be as charismatic as possible, playing up to the media.

The only person who I can think of who might be slightly aggressive, albeit in a different way is Chisora.

He's known for throwing tables and bottles at people, and slapping people during the face-off. Though it's not the same kind of menacing aggression that Tyson had.

[dunfida]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

Those are some really major words if you ask me, the prime of Tyson did not last long because of several issues in his personal life but at his prime he was a force of nature, he was one of the scariest fighters I have ever seen, he was very aggressive and once he had you where he wanted you had no way to escape, I do no really think that any of the top fighters in the heavyweight division of this day could have beaten Tyson on his prime but if they want to believe otherwise then let them since at the end we know the answer.

Nobody has that aggression these days. Almost all boxers play it safe and try to be as charismatic as possible, playing up to the media.

The only person who I can think of who might be slightly aggressive, albeit in a different way is Chisora.

He's known for throwing tables and bottles at people, and slapping people during the face-off. Though it's not the same kind of menacing aggression that Tyson had.

Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen. 

[Docnaster]

Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen. 

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

[btc_angela]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

To be honest, the height difference between these two would be absolutely mental.

Fury is like 6ft 9, and Tyson was 5ft 9.

I'm not sure Tyson could overcome that weight, height, reach advantage etc.

That said, Fury's body would get absolutely worked in that fight, that's for sure. Would love to see have seen it happen.

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

Sorry for that mistake, it was Wilder who said that, I don't know what I put Fury in there, Lol, anyways, I give you merit for pointing that out.

And I do agree that both of them will not have a chance against a prime Tyson in the mid 80's. Tyson's head movement is underrated and he really utilised this against taller opponent of his.

[mirakal]

Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen. 

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.

[dunfida]

Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen. 

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.

50W    6L    0D
with having a KO percentage of 75.86%

I dont see that this isnt a good record.Yes, he does have some defeats but all of his career which is more entertaining and you can
really feel the true essence of boxing. Mayweather is good but not really that my type in way of his fighting style.Undefeated sounds great
but theres always a thing that lacks.

[rdbase]

Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.

50W    6L    0D
with having a KO percentage of 75.86%

I dont see that this isnt a good record.Yes, he does have some defeats but all of his career which is more entertaining and you can
really feel the true essence of boxing. Mayweather is good but not really that my type in way of his fighting style.Undefeated sounds great
but theres always a thing that lacks.

That is a high percentage for a knockout he was a beast in the ring.

I have a little competition going on who you will think will knock out who for a small prize for your prediction.
Feel free to enter into it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223732.new#new

Cant wait for this fight. It should be a stinger as nobody really has a clear picture of who they think will win!

[mich]

Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

[7788bitcoin]

It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.

There is no point in comparing fighters in other generations and during the reign Mike Tyson was the baddest boxers and so does Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis and after that generation we never saw a competition in the Heavyweight division until recently with Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz in the mix challenging each other for the baddest man title and the most important aspect is that we are seeing these fights in their prime than the usual boxing gimmicks of milking the cow till they make the maximum money and then go for the dream fights the fans are looking for.

[coin-investor]

Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

[mirakal]

Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

What can we expect, they are into business and this match up is really a very competitive match, so we will likely see a trilogy after this one.
Regardless on who will win as long as the fight is competitive, we can expect to see them fight again.

it could be another classic Pacquiao vs Marquez fights in the past.

[Oilacris]

Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

What can we expect, they are into business and this match up is really a very competitive match, so we will likely see a trilogy after this one.
Regardless on who will win as long as the fight is competitive, we can expect to see them fight again.

it could be another classic Pacquiao vs Marquez fights in the past.

I do find that Pacquiao and Marquez fight quite entertaining rather than into this Wilder-Fury trilogy. Taking aside that AJ and Ruiz fight which it doesnt really need to have a 3rd match.

They will surely arrange fights if they do make out money and yes this is a business so its anticipated or do have high chance for it to happen as long it would benefit them.

Does anybody still interested on rematch? 

[freedomgo]

Does anybody still interested on rematch? 

That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.

[mirakal]

Does anybody still interested on rematch? 

That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.

The first match end up a controversial draw, so this is a fight to determine who really wins that which I assume it will not again end up a draw.

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

[Jating]

Does anybody still interested on rematch? 

That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.

The first match end up a controversial draw, so this is a fight to determine who really wins that which I assume it will not again end up a draw.

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.

[Viscore]

The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

of course I would love this one, even the loser can fight AJ and might give him a problem as we see him vulnerable losing to a fat guy.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.

Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

[7788bitcoin]

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

The fight depends upon Wilder able to land the knockout punch and that is how he usually wins and not with his technical striking and since they both danced earlier and Fury had the better match and Wilder not able to knock him out this fight will be the same and since Fury is talking about knocking out Wilder which i do not see that coming as he is not a knockout artist and if he really tries and lunges forward he might get caught by Wilder and one punch from Wilder could knock anyone.

[Finestream]

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

The fight depends upon Wilder able to land the knockout punch and that is how he usually wins and not with his technical striking and since they both danced earlier and Fury had the better match and Wilder not able to knock him out this fight will be the same and since Fury is talking about knocking out Wilder which i do not see that coming as he is not a knockout artist and if he really tries and lunges forward he might get caught by Wilder and one punch from Wilder could knock anyone.

The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

[Docnaster]

The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the judges were corrupt. Judges look for different things and score things differently, it's just human bias, that's why there are three judges.

Fury is definitely not going knock Wilder out though lol, he's just saying that to get into his head. Everybody knows Fury would get demolished if it comes to a swingup.

It's going to go to decision again if Wilder doesn't know him out. If Fury can avoid touching the canvas, he wont need to worry about getting robbed on points again.

Though if he somehow gets another draw, then we can start calling corruption.

[stomachgrowls]

The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the judges were corrupt. Judges look for different things and score things differently, it's just human bias, that's why there are three judges.

Fury is definitely not going knock Wilder out though lol, he's just saying that to get into his head. Everybody knows Fury would get demolished if it comes to a swingup.

It's going to go to decision again if Wilder doesn't know him out. If Fury can avoid touching the canvas, he wont need to worry about getting robbed on points again.

Though if he somehow gets another draw, then we can start calling corruption.

2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

[Natalim]

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

You nailed it right, this is just pure business though that's why the fight is so exciting because they know how to hype us based on what we like, and here's the thing that I believe, any competition that there's a human judges can easily be corrupted even in the beauty contest, so it's no different, more on this since there's a lot of money at stake.

[fortunecrypto]

Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

I'm not also a big fan of heavyweights either but seeing these three great heavyweights Fury, Wilder, Joshua creating waves in the heavyweights plus new up and coming name in the heavyweights like Dubois, heavyweight is back on it's hey day again, just  like in the days of Mike Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.

[Sushunt]

According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

[btc_angela]

According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

[joshy23]

Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

I'm not also a big fan of heavyweights either but seeing these three great heavyweights Fury, Wilder, Joshua creating waves in the heavyweights plus new up and coming name in the heavyweights like Dubois, heavyweight is back on it's hey day again, just  like in the days of Mike Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.

Yeah right, this heavy weights fighters are bringing back those old days. It's intense to see that many fans are now engaging again watching those
heavy weights contenders.
Wilder, Fury and Joshua are bringing the  the fun and entertainment to this sports.

[Vaculin]

According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

I think he is, because of his 29 fights, 20 of them are won by him through knockout, although compared to Wilder of all his 43 fights, 41 of these are won by knockout, what I am saying is that Fury also has a power to knock out an opponent.

for reference on record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder

[TopTort777]

According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

Between those two Wilder is the master of trashtalk, why Fury is more like a clown or a joker. Wilder talks more to offend the persons, while Fury usually turn everything in to joke or to make a laugh on his opponent.

Fury "tasted the canvass" two times (9 and 12 round), but according to one of judge cards, he won the fight by 110:114 score. So these two "tastes" I wont count as a real knockdowns.

[fortunecrypto]

According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

I think he is, because of his 29 fights, 20 of them are won by him through knockout, although compared to Wilder of all his 43 fights, 41 of these are won by knockout, what I am saying is that Fury also has a power to knock out an opponent.

for reference on record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder

As you all can see in their latest fight Wilder knock down Fury two times a knock puncher can finish the bout anytime, Wilder has a big chance to knock Fury he has a big percentage and I don't believe he can knock Wilder in two rounds because if he slug it out or go toe to toe he is going to be in big trouble.

[matchi2011]

According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

Part of publicity to get viewers attentions, it's tough to accomplish such claims since Wilder also have the same capabilities to fight back and try
to win over Fury. We don't have any idea who's going to win since both fighters wanted to prove something inside the ring.
The fight will be interesting if this two fighters start to throw words against each others.

[Zicadis]

2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

Looks like the odds of there being two draws on a row for this for these fights are only about 1 in 400.

Crazier odds have definitely occurred and still happen all the time. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was another draw and we end up seeing a trilogy fight.

If that goes to another draw people will definitely lose interest. Realistically, I don't think it will happen. Either Wilder will straight up knock Fury out, or it will be a TKO based on the three-knockdown rule. Either that, or Fury will stay slick and not go down for a points win.

[Kemarit]

The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

Well it used to be Wilder and Joshua before, I think there were talks of a fight between the two many years ago but because of money issues that time, it didn't happen. And then Fury entering the scene and making a comeback. So yeah, those three needs to face each other at least.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.

We can't really compare era's, those three really separate themselves from the rest of the heavyweight right now. Unlike before wherein there's a lot of "US" made boxers until the Klitscho brothers come along and dominated the division for many years.

[Diced90]

2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

Looks like the odds of there being two draws on a row for this for these fights are only about 1 in 400.

Crazier odds have definitely occurred and still happen all the time. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was another draw and we end up seeing a trilogy fight.

If that goes to another draw people will definitely lose interest. Realistically, I don't think it will happen. Either Wilder will straight up knock Fury out, or it will be a TKO based on the three-knockdown rule. Either that, or Fury will stay slick and not go down for a points win.

I'm definitely putting my money on the Wilder knockout for now.

Apparently he broke his hand before the first fight, and still almost knocked Fury out. With a fully functional hand, he should put him to sleep this time.

[Natalim]

I'm definitely putting my money on the Wilder knockout for now.

Apparently he broke his hand before the first fight, and still almost knocked Fury out. With a fully functional hand, he should put him to sleep this time.

I don't know about this, but it looks like he was not injured during the fight, what I am seeing is that Wilder can't hit Fury because Fury had a decent good movement in boxing that he can doge Wilder's punch easily, actually it was Fury who is scoring pretty well in that fight and I can't believe it ended up a draw.

[JollyGood]

I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder 

Fury was hardly back in shape after a long stint out away from the sport and he won that match on a points decision but was robbed by pathetic scorecard politics. Everybody knows Fury won that fight.

This time with the correct period for training and that first bout under his belt I would say Wilder will be knocked out by rounds 4, 5 or 6 and not by TKO, I would not be surprised to see he on the floor out for the count.

[stadus]

I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder 

I guess you'll get an interesting odds for that if you are betting.

Fury to KO wilder in round 1 - @26
Fury to KO Wilder (entire game) - @5.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/wilder-deontay-fury-tyson-5da407af5f72f70b28639a7f

[bisdak40]

Fury to KO wilder in round 1 - @26
Fury to KO Wilder (entire game) - @5.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/wilder-deontay-fury-tyson-5da407af5f72f70b28639a7f

I'm putting my money on Manny Pacquaio's prediction which is also a knock-out by Wilder.

Wilder KO 10: “Never bet against a puncher, particularly one like Deontay Wilder. I look at Wilder like I do at a Mike Tyson, another puncher. I see Wilder winning this rematch with Tyson Fury by 10th-round knockout.”

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

[Questat]

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

[TopTort777]

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

But he has 2 hands. He could have punched Fury with other hand (if only he could). Btw, Fury is a natural heavyweight, while Wilder looks like he gained muscles to be in that division. That is why Fury survived that two KO's.

My prediction will be Fury by decision, or slight possibility by KO in 10+ round. Wilder is aggressive and active in the ring. He sure will be tired and lost a lot of stamina when "champion" rounds will start.

[eaLiTy]

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

Tyson Fury is the only boxer who got up after getting a full power punch from Deontay Wilder and then come up and dominate the rest of the round, i am not aware of the hand injury and Deontay Wilder never claimed that he was injured during that fight.

Fury is a natural heavyweight, while Wilder looks like he gained muscles to be in that division. That is why Fury survived that two KO's.

Deontay Wilder just weighs around 212 pounds when they fought Tyson Fury the first time and Deontay Wilder has the power to knock out anyone in the heavyweight division and he is regarded as the hardest puncher in history and his knockout of Luis Ortiz was brutal and that was not even a clean punch to the chin and yet he was unconscious. No one doubts the power of Deontay Wilder.
In this fight Tyson Fury will be coming in heavy than the first fight and he changed his coaches and from what he says he will be looking for knockout Wilder from the start, the first fight Fury was able to manage the distance and this time i am expecting him to attack and make this a dirty fight, either way it will be a great contest for the fans.

[JollyGood]

I just cannot see Wilder getting fortunate this time. No dodgy scorecards from suspect score judges are going to save Wilder this time.

Fury will happily box for the full 12 rounds it will be no problem for him but he will take any opportunity to knock out Wilder before that. As for Wilder, he made a mistake taking the first fight because he thought Fury would be rough after his time away from the ring and those few rounds he had under his belt would be of no use against the punching power Wilder has but he miscalculated. Now that Fury is back to his best Wilder has no chance of winning the bout though he might cause a problem or two for Fury but in the end it will be won by Fury who will teach Wilder a boxing lesson by knocking him out cold.

I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder 

I guess you'll get an interesting odds for that if you are betting.

Fury to KO wilder in round 1 - @26
Fury to KO Wilder (entire game) - @5.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/wilder-deontay-fury-tyson-5da407af5f72f70b28639a7f

[BALIK]

I just cannot see Wilder getting fortunate this time. No dodgy scorecards from suspect score judges are going to save Wilder this time.

Fury will happily box for the full 12 rounds it will be no problem for him but he will take any opportunity to knock out Wilder before that. As for Wilder, he made a mistake taking the first fight because he thought Fury would be rough after his time away from the ring and those few rounds he had under his belt would be of no use against the punching power Wilder has but he miscalculated. Now that Fury is back to his best Wilder has no chance of winning the bout though he might cause a problem or two for Fury but in the end it will be won by Fury who will teach Wilder a boxing lesson by knocking him out cold.

Yea, but if his cut opens up again, it could be game over for him.

Wilder isn't Otto Wallin, if that cut opens up and fury can't see out of an eye, you can be sure that Wilder will go in for the kill.

I don't think he is at all scared of getting into a swingup with Fury, since he would almost certainly bang him out if one happened.

Wilder is definitely going to try and open up that cut, and if it does, the outcome will shift to favor Wilder.

[7788bitcoin]

~snip
The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

I have no idea what the judges were watching during that fight, Wilder was controlling the center but Fury was the technical boxer and Wilder was always waiting for the big punch to land and it only came late in the rounds and even after landing the deadly punches Fury was able to make a come back be competitive for the rest of the rounds.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

The rematch got the attention of all the causal fans and i bet they will be making a lot of money and it is good for boxing as these fighters are simply the best they can and in their prime and anything can happen in a fight.

[bbc.reporter]

Tyson Fury has become a personal hero of mine. He said that he will binge on cocaine and cheap $30 dollar hookers if he wins the fight hehehehe.

[mich]

Tyson Fury has become a personal hero of mine. He said that he will binge on cocaine and cheap $30 dollar hookers if he wins the fight hehehehe.

I didnt not believe such a thing but he really did say this!  A happily married man!
'After this fight, I'm going to binge out on cocaine and hookers,' Fury told Daily Caller. 'Is there anything better than cocaine and hookers?'

He says some other gross things in the article here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8015969/Tyson-Fury-vows-cocaine-cheap-30-hooker-binge-Deontay-Wilder-rematch.html

[Darker45]

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

But he has 2 hands. He could have punched Fury with other hand (if only he could). Btw, Fury is a natural heavyweight, while Wilder looks like he gained muscles to be in that division. That is why Fury survived that two KO's.

My prediction will be Fury by decision, or slight possibility by KO in 10+ round. Wilder is aggressive and active in the ring. He sure will be tired and lost a lot of stamina when "champion" rounds will start.

Same prediction here. Fury by UD. I am not considering a KO by Fury, much less from Wilder. Wilder is relying too much on his strong one-punch, not even a combination of punches. That is not a scoring machine that he's got in his hands. There is power in them, of course, but then I doubt it will knock Fury out to sleep. And if the 12 rounds will be fully consumed by both fighters, Wilder will definitely come short in points. Fury got this one, for me.

By the way, the power of Wilder should not be underestimated in the late rounds. The first time these two met, it was in rounds 9 and 12 that Fury was downed.

[Kasabus]

The first time these two met, it was in rounds 9 and 12 that Fury was downed.

But we should also not underestimate the stamina of Fury, he went down two times in the fight but still got up as if it wasn't a heavy punch he received.
Damn, this surely be another great fight to watch, the last time, there wasn't a boring round, so it's worth to watch them.

[eaLiTy]

'After this fight, I'm going to binge out on cocaine and hookers,' Fury told Daily Caller. 'Is there anything better than cocaine and hookers?'

May be he wants to numb his pain after the fight and so is the reason he might use cocaine and hookers to release his stress  .

I am not considering a KO by Fury, much less from Wilder. Wilder is relying too much on his strong one-punch, not even a combination of punches.

Deontay Wilder is not a technical boxing master, he won 41 fighting with his powerful right hand and he only needs to land a single punch in the entire fight to end a fight and the only fight in his career that went the distance is against Tyson Fury.

Even in this fight the interesting aspect is that whether Deontay Wilder can land that huge punch or Tyson Fury can avoid that throughout the fight and win the fight.

[hilariousetc]

This is one of those fights that is so evenly matched it's hard to call, especially after the draw in the first one. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that happened again but draws are fairly rare in boxing so it's probably unlikely to happen especially when that decision was so controversial (even though I think it was the right one). Wilder is probably the slight favourite to win and if I had to pick a winner it would be him but I think it might go the distance again if he doesn't knock Fury out. Gonna set my alarm for 4:30 in the morning so I can watch it either way.

Tyson Fury has become a personal hero of mine. He said that he will binge on cocaine and cheap $30 dollar hookers if he wins the fight hehehehe.

I didnt not believe such a thing but he really did say this!  A happily married man!
'After this fight, I'm going to binge out on cocaine and hookers,' Fury told Daily Caller. 'Is there anything better than cocaine and hookers?'

He says some other gross things in the article here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8015969/Tyson-Fury-vows-cocaine-cheap-30-hooker-binge-Deontay-Wilder-rematch.html

He's said a lot of stupid stuff in the past but I thought he was over this nonsense and had grown up a bit. It's a shame because he seems like a decent guy otherwise and could be a good role model and spokesman for a lot of causes but always puts his foot in his mouth. I'm sure he would have been a shoe-in to win the BBC Sportsman of Year Award but he always says something controversial around the time they do the nominations and he screws himself over.

[TopTort777]

According to stake.com bookies, both boxers has even chances to win. Odds are 1.84 Wilder, 1.94 Fury. But I like "Draw 19.00" better   Hope they wish to make a trilogy, because I'm going to place my small bet on the draw (but frankly I'm going to cheer for Fury). Too bad this is not going to happen, take a look on those two hungry men




Anyone else going to place a bet?

[fortunecrypto]

According to stake.com bookies, both boxers has even chances to win. Odds are 1.84 Wilder, 1.94 Fury. But I like "Draw 19.00" better  Hope they wish to make a trilogy, because I'm going to place my small bet on the draw (but frankly I'm going to cheer for Fury). To bad this is not going to happen, take a look on those two hungry men




Anyone else going to place a bet?

There's more hype and excitement than the Ruiz Joshua fight, it's anybody's ball game because I'm pretty sure that both fighters will be employing different strategies this time, but I am still baffle why the change of trainers for Fury when he is doing great after he got back after a long vacation.

[DeathAngel]

Really looking forward to this one, if it goes the distance Fury will win as imo he is the better boxer. Wilder has that amazing knockout power though so at any point he can end the fight with one punch.

[JohnBitCo]

Really looking forward to this one, if it goes the distance Fury will win as imo he is the better boxer. Wilder has that amazing knockout power though so at any point he can end the fight with one punch.

The rematch is coming closer as this match will be played tomorrow February 22. The match will start near 4- 5 am GMT.
Regardless of who will win, there is a lot of hype about this match and lot of gamblers will gamble on this.  I cant wait for this " Unfinished Business".

[JollyGood]

Wilder thought he was mocking Fury by talking about his previous health issues but Fury did not touch him in anger, instead he told Wilder that "nobody in your country knows who you are" which is almost very true.

Upon hearing that Wilder got upset, there was no need for him to behave like a playground bully and push Fury when he was not expecting it but thankfully it was funny to see Wilder feel the fury of Fury as he pushed him in retaliation.

Wilder had mostly tailor made opponents which were not going to cause issues for him just so he could retain the belt but not any more - I will be so happy for Fury when I see him knock out Wilder. Wilder will be on the canvas long after the referee counts to ten and Fury will be holding his arms up high as the champion that he is 

[South Park]

Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

I do not think the situations are comparable, the first fight between Joshua and Ruiz was really entertaining and it was a big surprise too, people had high expectations for the second fight and we obtained nothing out of it so a third fight is out of the question, but this is not going to be the case with Wilder and Fury, I am sure this fight is going to be good, and if it is, then a third match is a given since both fighters are not going to deny themselves a big paycheck for a single fight.

[Welsh]

I'm super excited for this rematch, although I honestly don't think I want a trilogy if one of these wins in a definite way. If its a controversial end like last time, or a split decision then maybe the trilogy would be best. However, if Fury or Wilder runs away with this, then it kind of puts a dampener on the whole win as really the last person to win is usually considered the better fighter. I'm routing for my man Tyson Fury all the way though. I think he will outperform Wilder again, and as long as he avoids that right hand of Wilder, and does slightly less showboating I think we'll see a decisive point victory.

[suzanne5223]

Do you think that a Fury would beat a prime Tyson?

"Me vs. Tyson in '86, I'd kick the hell outta that guy. Listen, I've got to keep it real. I know people always go back to the old school or look at the new school and there's no school where I'm not No. 1 on earth," Wilder said.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mike-tyson-reacts-wilders-prediction-beating-him--146808

I agree with Lennox Lewis reaction on that article, I mean a prime Tyson in the mid 80's is like an animal destroying everyone in his path, including any version of Fury, in my opinion.

I somehow agree either with the response of Lewis but if we preview the previous fight of Wilder and the way he handles he during his rematch again Fury faces off i believe he has what it takes which was also the reason Tyson made a humble response to his statement.

[DarkDays]

I actually believe that Wilder had a decent chance against Mike Tyson.

I know that Tyson was used to knocking out much bigger guys, but these guys rarely had the equalizer that Wilder has. I think Mike Tyson vs Deontay Wilder would have been a 50/50 fight.

Obviously Tyson would take it to the inside and would break down the body, but he'd have to contend with Wilder's jab and uppercut, that has put people out even in the 12th round.

I understand giving respect to the champions of old, but the guys of today are a completely different breed.

[posi]

Wilder thought he was mocking Fury by talking about his previous health issues but Fury did not touch him in anger, instead he told Wilder that "nobody in your country knows who you are" which is almost very true.

Upon hearing that Wilder got upset, there was no need for him to behave like a playground bully and push Fury when he was not expecting it but thankfully it was funny to see Wilder feel the fury of Fury as he pushed him in retaliation.

Wilder had mostly tailor made opponents which were not going to cause issues for him just so he could retain the belt but not any more - I will be so happy for Fury when I see him knock out Wilder. Wilder will be on the canvas long after the referee counts to ten and Fury will be holding his arms up high as the champion that he is 

You can say that again because you're Fury fan but i wont agree with you about that. With that been said, you never said anything about Fury been the one to start the whole scenario through instagram post and during the face off he even insulted Wilder mom. Thats cool, isnt? You're talking about ones previous health.

[Baofeng]

Don't get too emotional guys, those two are just playing along to hype their fight obviously. We have seen this many times in the past, when one fighter trying to get on someone's else skin to sell the fight. We have seen worst insults, but at the end of the fight, they will hug each other and forget all this animosity. Just a week before the fight, I'm sure the trash talking will be more intense.

[hulla]

Don't get too emotional guys, those two are just playing along to hype their fight obviously. We have seen this many times in the past, when one fighter trying to get on someone's else skin to sell the fight. We have seen worst insults, but at the end of the fight, they will hug each other and forget all this animosity. Just a week before the fight, I'm sure the trash talking will be more intense.

Yes, we have seen a series of hype used in boxing special in the heavyweight categories but Wilders and Furys rematch is completely incompatible to such because the fighters seem to have personal beef going on between themselves in terms I'm good in the ring than you.
Aside that, most odd favor Wilder

[bbc.reporter]

According to stake.com bookies, both boxers has even chances to win. Odds are 1.84 Wilder, 1.94 Fury. But I like "Draw 19.00" better  Hope they wish to make a trilogy, because I'm going to place my small bet on the draw (but frankly I'm going to cheer for Fury). To bad this is not going to happen, take a look on those two hungry men




Anyone else going to place a bet?

There's more hype and excitement than the Ruiz Joshua fight, it's anybody's ball game because I'm pretty sure that both fighters will be employing different strategies this time, but I am still baffle why the change of trainers for Fury when he is doing great after he got back after a long vacation.

Agreed. The promoters should take lessons from Dana White and organize the winner to fight Anthony Joshua hehehe. I reckon that would create much hype and excitement in a time of boxing after Manny Pacquiao.

[Saisher]

Anybody seen their Face off it's very much different from all their past face off they are some feet apart, the promoters have done this to avoid similar incidents where there are pushing involve in the face off, but even though they are some feet apart the heated shouting are all still there.

[Ziskinberg]

Anybody seen their Face off it's very much different from all their past face off they are some feet apart, the promoters have done this to avoid similar incidents where there are pushing involve in the face off, but even though they are some feet apart the heated shouting are all still there.

That's good so they can prevent some injury, they have to show everything in the fight so we will see a great fight, hopefully better than the first fight and there should be no draw this time. I think this is one the only opponent of Wilder where we've seen him having a problem of beating down, so this is good because it will be very unpredictable.

[virasog]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

[rdbase]

^^
Yeah this match is going to be intense and they are toting it as the best fight since tyson.

Surprised nobody has entered into this competition I have had since the beginning of the week.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223732.new#new
Last chance to get in on some doubling of btc on your bets and a couple of mbtc from me on a K.O!
Which I am thinking fury will get it done.

[freedomgo]

Aside that, most odd favor Wilder

Wilder is only slightly favored.

odds from nitrogensports - https://nitrogensports.eu/sport/boxing/boxing-matches
wilder -116
Fury +102.

[mirakal]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

[mich]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

For me all these big fights are free from my cable provider so I dont even pay attention to a pay for view
My choice for tomorrow is TYSON FURY with a Ko

[virasog]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

ESPN+ is separate from ESPN  and it mostly covers the live streaming of the sports events.
You need to subscribe to ESPN+ in order to watch it.

The Difference Between ESPN and ESPN+ on WatchESPN
The ESPN+ service provides live streaming access to sporting events that aren't available on any of the regular ESPN cable channels. Aside from appearing on the same site, there is no overlap between ESPN and ESPN+.

[FIFA worldcup]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

Will it be telecast live on Youtube ? Most people will not have access to these channels or they are not willing to subscribe to them only for this match.
If i am unable to watch it live, i will surely watch the highlights at youtube , but it will be better if someone can share the live streaming you tube link for the match ?

[Jating]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

Will it be telecast live on Youtube ? Most people will not have access to these channels or they are not willing to subscribe to them only for this match.
If i am unable to watch it live, i will surely watch the highlights at youtube , but it will be better if someone can share the live streaming you tube link for the match ?

I don't think it will be telecast live on Youtube. And I don't know if we are allow to post some live streaming here in this community because I haven't seen anyone who's willing to give out links.

Usually though, I just wake up early, talk to some of my friends who may have subscribe to cable network stations if they can live stream with me. Otherwise I don't have a choice but to wait for some high lights in Youtube.

[mirakal]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

ESPN+ is separate from ESPN  and it mostly covers the live streaming of the sports events.
You need to subscribe to ESPN+ in order to watch it.

The Difference Between ESPN and ESPN+ on WatchESPN
The ESPN+ service provides live streaming access to sporting events that aren't available on any of the regular ESPN cable channels. Aside from appearing on the same site, there is no overlap between ESPN and ESPN+.

Thanks for the information,.. if that is the case then I would just go with FoX channel, surely this is for free..  
I am excited to see them fight tomorrow in our timezone, hopefully this will end up longer like the first one.

edit : wait I've check this one now. https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2020/02/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-2-time-fight-card-odds-tv-how-to-watch-live-stream-online-with-espn-or-fox-sports-ppv.html

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury 2: Time, fight card, odds, TV, how to watch live stream online with ESPN+ or FOX Sports PPV

so its not free?

[fortunecrypto]

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

Will it be telecast live on Youtube ? Most people will not have access to these channels or they are not willing to subscribe to them only for this match.
If i am unable to watch it live, i will surely watch the highlights at youtube , but it will be better if someone can share the live streaming you tube link for the match ?

Some of the past big fights I got from facebook live you can do a research before the fight, there are some kind friends who are willing to share the live telecast on their feeds but they are doing it on the actual fight because Facebook are deleting this live feeds once they have a report on that, Facebook and Youtube are two great sources,I remember getting the Inoue Donaire in a Facebook feeds.

[Viscore]

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury 2: Time, fight card, odds, TV, how to watch live stream online with ESPN+ or FOX Sports PPV

so its not free?

Definitely it's not free as stated on the article you shared.. PPV stands for Pay Per View, so normally big fights like this are not given for free.
I don't know if I can watch this in our local TV but hopefully there's a free live streaming for this, so I can get use of my fast internet connection.

[fortunecrypto]

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury 2: Time, fight card, odds, TV, how to watch live stream online with ESPN+ or FOX Sports PPV

so its not free?

Definitely it's not free as stated on the article you shared.. PPV stands for Pay Per View, so normally big fights like this are not given for free.
I don't know if I can watch this in our local TV but hopefully there's a free live streaming for this, so I can get use of my fast internet connection.

Like I posted there are Facebook page that are related to sports page that wants to have many followers, that will show the live feed, if you are an admin of a sports page the easiest way to get more followers is to post live feeds from popular fights, but you also have the risk of getting your page deleted, but it's worth the risk if you can get away with it.

[matchi2011]

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury 2: Time, fight card, odds, TV, how to watch live stream online with ESPN+ or FOX Sports PPV

so its not free?

Definitely it's not free as stated on the article you shared.. PPV stands for Pay Per View, so normally big fights like this are not given for free.
I don't know if I can watch this in our local TV but hopefully there's a free live streaming for this, so I can get use of my fast internet connection.

Hopefully someone from online or social media account will give some links so it can be watch for free. Though I'm not sure if that is possible not being
caught but for sure there are some people who ill likely to take the risk and tried to escaped from any possible ban of their accounts.

[hilariousetc]

I'm super excited for this rematch, although I honestly don't think I want a trilogy if one of these wins in a definite way. If its a controversial end like last time, or a split decision then maybe the trilogy would be best. However, if Fury or Wilder runs away with this, then it kind of puts a dampener on the whole win as really the last person to win is usually considered the better fighter. I'm routing for my man Tyson Fury all the way though. I think he will outperform Wilder again, and as long as he avoids that right hand of Wilder, and does slightly less showboating I think we'll see a decisive point victory.

It will all depend on the contract. Wilder probably has a rematch clause if he loses seeing as he's the belt-holder. If he wins he'll probably just move on, but maybe Fury also has one. Depending on how this fight goes a third fight could be even bigger.

Do not miss this match live today on ESPN+ or Fox Sports, whichever channel is available in your area.

I love this one, good that it's not on PPV as we still have to pay for it, now we can watch it live in these channels.. I guess I only have Fox sports but I don't have ESPN +, not sure if ESPN and ESPN + is the same, someone enlighten me what's the difference and what ESPN+ caters?

Will it be telecast live on Youtube ? Most people will not have access to these channels or they are not willing to subscribe to them only for this match.
If i am unable to watch it live, i will surely watch the highlights at youtube , but it will be better if someone can share the live streaming you tube link for the match ?

Lol. It's not going to be on Youtube. The only way you'll be able to watch this for free is if you find an illegal stream. Dazn are showing it on some of their platforms but it depends where you live. It's on the German one but not The Canadian one for example. They do offer a free month trial and you can cancel at anytime and it's a great service in my opinion if you're into sports as they show a lot of stuff not just boxing.

[Harkorede]

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury 2: Time, fight card, odds, TV, how to watch live stream online with ESPN+ or FOX Sports PPV

so its not free?

Definitely it's not free as stated on the article you shared.. PPV stands for Pay Per View, so normally big fights like this are not given for free.
I don't know if I can watch this in our local TV but hopefully there's a free live streaming for this, so I can get use of my fast internet connection.

Hopefully someone from online or social media account will give some links so it can be watch for free. Though I'm not sure if that is possible not being
caught but for sure there are some people who ill likely to take the risk and tried to escaped from any possible ban of their accounts.

I mostly use https://www.streameast.live for all my streaming necessities, they've always got me covered. They have all sports, nba, soccer, hockey and even tennis.

I'm however not too sure about them covering the match, but I really think they would do so.

[XCANA]

Anybody seen their Face off it's very much different from all their past face off they are some feet apart, the promoters have done this to avoid similar incidents where there are pushing involve in the face off, but even though they are some feet apart the heated shouting are all still there.

I think this has been over hype by these promoters against this fight, though one can't blame the organizer for hyping the whole thing by heating up the tow fighter. I can see these two guys going against each other looks different from what we saw last fight. Hopefully, we're going to see another surprise during the rematch.

[Docnaster]

Not long now until the re-match finally gets settled. This has been a much anticipates fight and given the sucsess of the face off many people will surely enjoy the fight and be entertained.

Although, both Wilder and Furry are going in seriously and well trained and prepared, I have a hunch that Furry might take the victory home. I might be wrong since both are formidable fighters but who do you lot think the winner will be?

[Finestream]

Not long now until the re-match finally gets settled. This has been a much anticipates fight and given the sucsess of the face off many people will surely enjoy the fight and be entertained.

Although, both Wilder and Furry are going in seriously and well trained and prepared, I have a hunch that Furry might take the victory home. I might be wrong since both are formidable fighters but who do you lot think the winner will be?

The day has finally come, we are all excited for this so let's enjoy this fight.
I have made my final decision now and I'll be putting my bet on Wilder to win by KO, the odds is very attractive @2.29 and we know if Wilder wins, it should be with KO.

[btc_angela]

Not long now until the re-match finally gets settled. This has been a much anticipates fight and given the sucsess of the face off many people will surely enjoy the fight and be entertained.

Although, both Wilder and Furry are going in seriously and well trained and prepared, I have a hunch that Furry might take the victory home. I might be wrong since both are formidable fighters but who do you lot think the winner will be?

The day has finally come, we are all excited for this so let's enjoy this fight.
I have made my final decision now and I'll be putting my bet on Wilder to win by KO, the odds is very attractive @2.29 and we know if Wilder wins, it should be with KO.

Not very attractive odds indeed, yes I'm excited as well so let's see how the fight will end.

I didn't put any bet, I just wanted to enjoy the fight as a fan, that's it. All the hype about this fight is finished, and only the two combatants now are going to settle the score inside the ring.

If Wilder wants to KO Fury, it should be inside the distance, he don't want to get the fight goes into another 12 rounds.

[Viscore]

If Wilder wants to KO Fury, it should be inside the distance, he don't want to get the fight goes into another 12 rounds.

Wilder has to KO Fury within 6 rounds, otherwise this would be the fight for Fury as once again Fury will get the scoring and will take this to round 12 like the first fight, but it might be a different decision and Fury would win and people will not complain that he got robbed again.

Wilder can do this as most of his fights are won by KO.

[rdbase]

Not long now until the re-match finally gets settled. This has been a much anticipates fight and given the sucsess of the face off many people will surely enjoy the fight and be entertained.

Although, both Wilder and Furry are going in seriously and well trained and prepared, I have a hunch that Furry might take the victory home. I might be wrong since both are formidable fighters but who do you lot think the winner will be?

The day has finally come, we are all excited for this so let's enjoy this fight.
I have made my final decision now and I'll be putting my bet on Wilder to win by KO, the odds is very attractive @2.29 and we know if Wilder wins, it should be with KO.

Not very attractive odds indeed, yes I'm excited as well so let's see how the fight will end.

I didn't put any bet, I just wanted to enjoy the fight as a fan, that's it. All the hype about this fight is finished, and only the two combatants now are going to settle the score inside the ring.

If Wilder wants to KO Fury, it should be inside the distance, he don't want to get the fight goes into another 12 rounds.

Here are the odds available from the two sportbooks I use currently to bet on this fight.


These are taken 2 hours before the fight starts and you are right.
They are not too nice to take unless there is a K.O involved.
The current odds on this match going the distance are slim to nothing to bet on either.

[bbc.reporter]

Not long now until the re-match finally gets settled. This has been a much anticipates fight and given the sucsess of the face off many people will surely enjoy the fight and be entertained.

Although, both Wilder and Furry are going in seriously and well trained and prepared, I have a hunch that Furry might take the victory home. I might be wrong since both are formidable fighters but who do you lot think the winner will be?

The skeptical me is thinking that this might end on a draw again. Someone might be paying the judges similar to the Jone Jones versus Dominic Reyes fight hehehe. The odds on the draw is 19.00 hehehe.

[Darker45]

Not long now until the re-match finally gets settled. This has been a much anticipates fight and given the sucsess of the face off many people will surely enjoy the fight and be entertained.

Although, both Wilder and Furry are going in seriously and well trained and prepared, I have a hunch that Furry might take the victory home. I might be wrong since both are formidable fighters but who do you lot think the winner will be?

The skeptical me is thinking that this might end on a draw again. Someone might be paying the judges similar to the Jone Jones versus Dominic Reyes fight hehehe. The odds on the draw is 19.00 hehehe.

The two sportsbooks in the post right above you say the odds for draw are now higher at 25.00 and 26.00. That's too juicy I placed a very little bet to it just now, although I really find it far from happening. Well, we all hate a fighting match with no winners. And for the second time around.

[bering]

Very lucky i can watching live today through my tv however last minutes before match and here is below the odds between both of fighter from onehash.com

Deontay Wilder @3.66
Tyson Fury @1.45

Very surprising me as the champion some of sportbooks provide high odds for Wilder but that's fine and it's time to putting small money for Wilder instead of Fury

[virasog]

Round 4 is in progress now. Fury looking strong here. Wilder was down in the round 3 and his lips bleeding. This is going to be a tough match.
I hope you guys are watching and enjoying.

Listen to the audio commentary here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3KDYr0Ahmo


Edit: Widler is Down again in round 5.  Can the fury bring the KO ?

[Darker45]

The gypsy king remains on his throne!

Congratulations Fury for the amazing performance and the win!

[FIFA worldcup]

Fury is the king n will remain the king    
The King took Seven rounds to destroy the Wilder.

Tyson Fury is the heavyweight champion of the world

[hilariousetc]

At first I had no idea why the ref stopped it and thought it was very harsh, then the replay showed the towel being thrown in by Wilder's corner which nobody not even the commentators seemed to see. Really surprised they did that and not sure why really. Wilder was blocking most of the shots. Should have left it to the ref to stop it which I'm sure he would have if he felt it needed to happen. Fury was winning the fight but it could have gone the distance. Wilder was obviously shaky on his feet but he was still throwing some bombs, they just weren't connecting. If they did connect though it could have been a very different fight. Wilder's knock downs were controversial as well. Definitely not clean ones and one looked like a punch to the back of the head. Rematch has to happen now. Hopefully Fury will agree to it if it isn't already in the contract. It seems only fair given controversies is both fights and I'd like to see a clear winner by KO.

[eaLiTy]

Wilder's knock downs were controversial as well. Definitely not clean ones and one looked like a punch to the back of the head. Rematch has to happen now. Hopefully Fury will agree to it if it isn't already in the contract. It seems only fair given controversies is both fights and I'd like to see a clear winner by KO.

Tyson Fury completed his fairy tale comeback with a win like he promised, he said he will be aggressive in this fight and he will knock him out and that is what we saw, Tyson Fury won all the rounds in the judges too and the corner of Deontay Wilder threw in the towel to stop the fight to protect their fighter as they had enough and it is a clear victory for Tyson Fury in my eyes .
Huge respect for Tyson Fury as he become the first boxer in history to hold major Heavy Weight titles in his career and to come back from substance abuse and mental depression and then going straight against the Worlds biggest puncher and for his belt and winning them, it is like a scripted movie which is incredible.

Wilder's knock downs were controversial as well. Definitely not clean ones and one looked like a punch to the back of the head.

In the third round one over hand right from Fury landed flush around his left year and a good punch around that area will knock anyone down and that is what happened and the second time he went down in the third time, it was a push and the referee called that. Then there was a slip and Wilder went down again in the fourth round. In the fifth round a body shot put Wilder back in the ground, it was a complete dominance from Fury.

[LogitechMouse]

The gypsy king remains on his throne!

Congratulations Fury for the amazing performance and the win!

The Round 3 right punch is the game changer. That knockdown on the round is the game changing and he got the victory.

TBH, there are so many hugging to the game and there are times where Fury put Wilder's head between his arms and body. This is his advantage because he is very heavy and it is energy draining.
After that 3rd round knockdown, Wilder is trying to regain himself throughout the game but he can't because of the huge reach and powerful punches of Fury. Bloods everywhere from Wilder. It is the first time I saw Wilder like this. Heavily battered, feeling dizzy and can't use his counter punch.

I know Kenny Bayless is a professional referee and he has been a referees in many fights of Pacquiao but I don't understand why he stopped the fight. Wilder can still fight even though he is heavily battered but I surprised of how the fight ended and a bit disappointed too. Fury got the upper hand already but to end like this, I'm smelling for a rematch with what happened and for sure Wilder can't accept it. It is also his first lose.

I also laughed a bit with how Fury licked on the back of Wilder with bloods around their body .

WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING .

[virasog]

WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING .

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

[bering]

At round 7 Wilder journey as world champion has been over and with first time to lost by him it proven Fury much better than him and every rounds was dominate makes referee stopped the fight however seems Fury already know the weakness of Wilder and starting round 1 he was take the initiative to attack and congratulations to Fury fans and those who bets for him and for me it was very entertaining as the best fight in this year so far

[Sanitough]

Good win by Fury, now he has proven that he won that first fight as it's still the same result,. this fight he dominated Wilder and it looks like Wilder forget how to punch because Fury did really have a great job on putting the pressure on Wilder,.. I like him moving forward and he caught Wilder with his good combination.

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.

[JohnBitCo]

[Baofeng]

Here are my thoughts on the rematch.

Tyson Fury really play with his strengths here, we all know that he went heavy here, adding weight as compare to their first fight. He utilised it perfectly, when they hug each again, putting all his weight on Wilder. That is too taxing for Wilder to take, we even see him choking Wilder many times that Kenny Bayless has to give warning and eventually take a 1 point deduction.

Fury didn't used his jabs in the first two rounds, I was surprised by it, however, at the start of the third round he suddenly jab - one, two, then power punches.

Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

Congrats to the Gypsy King, it was really a cinderella story for him.

[freedomgo]

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.

Exactly because Fury was a real good boxer, he was more aggressive in this fight and he really did the talk in the ring when he said that he will knock down fury, if didn't happen in Round 2 but in round 3 we saw that knock down.. what's next for Wilder? will he still demand for another fight since he was the champ?

[Juggy777]

WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING .

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

@virasog there’s indeed going to be a rematch as their agreement has a clause where the looser can trigger a rematch option, and I believe that Wilder will definitely trigger it but it’s difficult to say when he’ll trigger it.

Here are my thoughts on the rematch.

Tyson Fury really play with his strengths here, we all know that he went heavy here, adding weight as compare to their first fight. He utilised it perfectly, when they hug each again, putting all his weight on Wilder. That is too taxing for Wilder to take, we even see him choking Wilder many times that Kenny Bayless has to give warning and eventually take a 1 point deduction.

Fury didn't used his jabs in the first two rounds, I was surprised by it, however, at the start of the third round he suddenly jab - one, two, then power punches.

Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

Congrats to the Gypsy King, it was really a cinderella story for him.

@Baofeng Fury did what he had said prior to this match that he’ll attack Wilder aggressively, and honestly even I’m surprised at the aggression shown by him. Also I know that it’s too early to speculate about what was wrong with Wilder, but if I had to take a wild guess then I would say that it looked like he was carrying an injury which in turn effected his performance.

https://www.sbnation.com/2020/2/22/21145965/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-2-preview-prediction-tv-schedule-streaming-rematch-results

[Bttzed03]

~
Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

I just watched the replay and Wilder looks to be out of shape since the first round. Fury was just rolling through Wilder's right hand punches like they were nothing. His legs were simply not there and it could be due to a bad weight cut. I believe his corner knows that and threw the towel.  


With how this fight ended, there is no need for a Fury-Wilder 3. I would like to see Fury vs. Joshua next.

[TopTort777]

Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

[Viscore]

Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

Wilder was disappointed as well, he can still fight but his corner man throw that towel already.
Though Wilder looks unstable but he still has the heart of a champion, his corner should have allowed him to still fight as this guy is a one punch KO, who knows he can hit Fury with in the later round and win the fight by KO.

[notblox1]

Well done Tyson Fury!
I never had any doubt that he will win this fight, but I did not expect to see him dominate and win with ko

[Jating]

Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

If you would listen to Teddy Atlas, a renowned boxing trainer, he says that Wilder is no boxer and the only thing that always bail him out is his one punch KO, that's why they called him the "Eraser". But this time, it is totally different, he couldn't off-set Fury because (1) Tyson is much heavier than him (2) Tyson can take his punch because of the added weight (3) Wilder got knock down, first time in his career and he didn't know how to react.

So yeah, bring Joshua vs Fury next, all British Heavyweight match.

[fortunecrypto]

Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

Wilder was disappointed as well, he can still fight but his corner man throw that towel already.
Though Wilder looks unstable but he still has the heart of a champion, his corner should have allowed him to still fight as this guy is a one punch KO, who knows he can hit Fury with in the later round and win the fight by KO.

I don't think it's going to happen, Wilder is really off and badly bleeding and confused, he really don't know how to react because for the first time in his career he is totally dominated and outclassed, he will deny that he is hurt but everyone there watching including the ref, knew it's only a matter of time, the stoppage was correct.

[Tipstar]

Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

Wilder was disappointed as well, he can still fight but his corner man throw that towel already.
Though Wilder looks unstable but he still has the heart of a champion, his corner should have allowed him to still fight as this guy is a one punch KO, who knows he can hit Fury with in the later round and win the fight by KO.

I don't think it's going to happen, Wilder is really off and badly bleeding and confused, he really don't know how to react because for the first time in his career he is totally dominated and outclassed, he will deny that he is hurt but everyone there watching including the ref, knew it's only a matter of time, the stoppage was correct.

It certainly is the end of Wilder's reign. No one reigns forever and records are here to be broken. Fury was confident and dominant. Wilder enjoyed a good period of time as a champion and it's time someone would replace him. He's getting older and slower and this was coming. Though he can still grab some trophies before his retirement.

[Pamadar]

Good win by Fury, now he has proven that he won that first fight as it's still the same result,. this fight he dominated Wilder and it looks like Wilder forget how to punch because Fury did really have a great job on putting the pressure on Wilder,.. I like him moving forward and he caught Wilder with his good combination.

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.

Good job for him as he really dominated this fight leaving Wilder with nothing but only to take those punches. He really proved that he got this one and Wilder unable to prevent and keep taking those attacks.

That combinations are well damage Wilder and with how Fury take every advantages makes the fight really entertaining.

[freedomgo]

Good win by Fury, now he has proven that he won that first fight as it's still the same result,. this fight he dominated Wilder and it looks like Wilder forget how to punch because Fury did really have a great job on putting the pressure on Wilder,.. I like him moving forward and he caught Wilder with his good combination.

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.

Good job for him as he really dominated this fight leaving Wilder with nothing but only to take those punches. He really proved that he got this one and Wilder unable to prevent and keep taking those attacks.

That combinations are well damage Wilder and with how Fury take every advantages makes the fight really entertaining.

Fury did a very good game plan, if you notice, he is jabbing but his throwing his right punch when he sees an opening, and it's hard for Wilder to block that as it's coming from above and since Fury is taller and bigger, he was able to utilize that technique properly.

[Baofeng]

~
Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

I just watched the replay and Wilder looks to be out of shape since the first round. Fury was just rolling through Wilder's right hand punches like they were nothing. His legs were simply not there and it could be due to a bad weight cut. I believe his corner knows that and threw the towel.  


With how this fight ended, there is no need for a Fury-Wilder 3. I would like to see Fury vs. Joshua next.

As far as I know there's no weight cutting that happened, on the contrary both of them really gained a lot of weight compare to their first fight.

First fight: Wilder: 212.5 lbs, rematch 231 lbs, gained 18.5 lbs. Fury: 256.5 lbs, rematch, 273 lbs, gained 16.5 lbs. And as I have said, Fury did used his weight advantage to the fullest. And it was the first time that Wilder was getting hit, big time. And it might have backfired on Wilder as well as it slow him down that's why Fury was just rolling out through Wilder's right hand and it might also caused him to fatigued very quick.

@Juggy777 - yes he did, that's why I was really amazed on the performance of Fury in this rematch. He followed everything to the T, including going toe to toe if needed, and that body punch that knock down Wilder the second time. Well, there's news popping around the Wilder has problems with his knees or something that has been bothering him entering the fight.

[TopTort777]

If you would listen to Teddy Atlas, a renowned boxing trainer, he says that Wilder is no boxer and the only thing that always bail him out is his one punch KO

Sadly I dont know whi that Teddy Atlas is

I’ve seen video on youtube (hope to find and hope there will be english subs), where the guy said, that Wilder is originally is a cruiserweight, but gained and turned to heavy with one punch tactics (but still do doubt that punch is strong).

During first fight agains Fury, Wilders weight was about 96kg, while Fury weight 20kg more. During yesterdays fight his weight was 104kg - maybe he doesn't feel comfortable in it. Maybe that is why his behavior was so unusual in the fight. 

[stadus]

If you would listen to Teddy Atlas, a renowned boxing trainer, he says that Wilder is no boxer and the only thing that always bail him out is his one punch KO

Sadly I dont know whi that Teddy Atlas is

I’ve seen video on youtube (hope to find and hope there will be english subs), where the guy said, that Wilder is originally is a cruiserweight, but gained and turned to heavy with one punch tactics (but still do doubt that punch is strong).

During first fight agains Fury, Wilders weight was about 96kg, while Fury weight 20kg more. During yesterdays fight his weight was 104kg - maybe he doesn't feel comfortable in it. Maybe that is why his behavior was so unusual in the fight. 

He was surprise by the aggressive style of Fury, from 1st round to the end, it was Fury who are going after him, looking for an opening to throw his combination and unfortunately, Wilder was not prepared for that. Now, let's talk about the first fight, isn't it still Fury who dominated it, but got robbed in the decision, so he did ensure that this fight will not go into distant.

[JollyGood]

Here was what I said before the fight and if the referee had not stopped the fight Fury would have knocked out Wilder cold:

I just cannot see Wilder getting fortunate this time. No dodgy scorecards from suspect score judges are going to save Wilder this time.

Fury will happily box for the full 12 rounds it will be no problem for him but he will take any opportunity to knock out Wilder before that. As for Wilder, he made a mistake taking the first fight because he thought Fury would be rough after his time away from the ring and those few rounds he had under his belt would be of no use against the punching power Wilder has but he miscalculated. Now that Fury is back to his best Wilder has no chance of winning the bout though he might cause a problem or two for Fury but in the end it will be won by Fury who will teach Wilder a boxing lesson by knocking him out cold.

[Darker45]

Well, there's news popping around the Wilder has problems with his knees or something that has been bothering him entering the fight.

Well, I am not saying this is an excuse but things like this are normally coming out after the fight. Tyson has also his own share of rumored injuries before coming into the fight and even his trainer is saying that their fighter is not coming into the ring in 100% condition. But he adds that, "Every fighter, and not even fighters, in every sport. If you train hard, everybody has some kind of an injury, some kind of nick, and that’s just the truth." And that's indeed the truth; bringing it up post-fight will only make you a crybaby.

Before the fight took place, all I could see was a Wilder in his perfect form. But it quickly changed. Right after the very first bell rang, Tyson was already dictating the fight's tempo. And it went all throughout the fight until the towel was thrown from Wilder's corner. I don't think it was a nice decision. Wilder and his trainer themselves didn't agree with it either. Well, they could have risked a few more rounds to see whether their fighter would be able to turn the tide on their side or would be pummeled by the Gypsy King to more injuries.

Anyhow, a trilogy is always an option but that is not the most exciting I guess. The fight was one-sided right from the get-go. It was a complete domination by Fury. Wilder was not able to compose himself. Well, the other 3 belts are held by another British. AJ vs. Fury must be the highest demand from the boxing fans. Dillian Whyte is calling out Tyson but I guess he has to wait.

[gentlemand]

Aye. That was a good watch.

What struck me about the lead up and some of the commentary is that the one and only thing people had to say about Wilder was - that right hand,  when it was going to arrive, why Fury needs to be wary of it.

That doesn't really say much about the rest of him. Guess there isn't much to say. Going by his ear I guess his balance took a major knock. If that is true it was a proper show of toughness.

[JollyGood]

Fury absolutely dominated the bout and was patient. He controlled the tempo and just would not let Wilder off the hook. I initially thought the referee stopped the fight a couple of punches early but afterwards I realised the Wilder corner threw in the towel.

Fury can move very well for a 6ft 9in - fantastic boxing match

[rosezionjohn]

Going by his ear  

I first thought you mean that instance where Fury was sticking his tongue out as if he was licking Wilder's ear during a clinch. I can't remember what round that was. It's kinda gross to watch

I guess his balance took a major knock. If that is true it was a proper show of toughness.

It was hard looking at Wilder even in the first three rounds. It looks like he was always dragging his feet and ready to fall anytime.


Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.

[7788bitcoin]

Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.

After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.

[Yaunfitda]

Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.

After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.

I also have the same doubts that the can knock out the Wilder.

But as soon as Wilder hits the canvass, the complexion of the fight changes, Tyson Fury more confident but cautious with Wilder's right. But Deontay was disoriented and it seems he surrendered already as Fury completely dominated the fight.

For me no need for a trilogy, Fury might go heavy again and the same results, Wilder getting knock out maybe under 7 rounds.

[JollyGood]

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time.

Fury and Joshua should be the next fight. I have no doubt whatsoever Fury will win within 5 or 6 rounds against Joshua and will go on to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

It is all over for Wilder. He is 34 years old, if he wants to rebuild his career he should take a long break then return fighting 3 or 4 handpicked lower ranked opponents then try to get one last shot at the title again.

[hilariousetc]

WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING .

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

Boxing is all about the money. They don't do these fights for fun, but it wasn't a KO win. Trilogys are what happens with most fights when it's one a piece, and not even that in this case with the first being a draw. If Fury is really the better fighter than I can't see why he wouldn't do it again. He seemed to offer it in the post-fight conference and I'm sure a rematch clause is in Wilder's contract anyway. Either way another fight is going to be a huge.

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time.

Fury and Joshua should be the next fight. I have no doubt whatsoever Fury will win within 5 or 6 rounds against Joshua and will go on to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

It is all over for Wilder. He is 34 years old, if he wants to rebuild his career he should take a long break then return fighting 3 or 4 handpicked lower ranked opponents then try to get one last shot at the title again.

I don't think Fury was robbed. It was a fairly equal fight in my opinion but you're forgetting Fury was knocked down twice and he was lucky to get back up. Another round in the first fight and I doubt he would have got back up. People forget that anything can happen in boxing. Doesn't matter how tough you are or if you're unbeaten; one punch and it can all be over. Wilder was the favourite going into this  but it was obvious that punch to the ear that made it bleed threw him off for the rest of the right. I think a rematch would be right in this situation. First was a draw and this one was won by the coach throwing in the towel, although I'm sure Fury would have got a KO had it been allowed to continue. Fury should fight AJ and I'm sure he will at some point but not sure it would be before another Fury fight and likely the Wilder trilogy.

~
Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

I just watched the replay and Wilder looks to be out of shape since the first round. Fury was just rolling through Wilder's right hand punches like they were nothing. His legs were simply not there and it could be due to a bad weight cut. I believe his corner knows that and threw the towel.  

He wasn't out of shape. That's what getting punched in the head/ear can do to you. Same thing happened in the Joshua fight.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

[Harlot]

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time..

Fury got knocked down twice during the first match and you think he is still worthy to win the match? Even if he dominated most of that fight Wilder equalized it by showing in front of the watched including the judges who has the power in the ring. However I do have to agree with you that a third match does not need to happen since we already know now who is the best in the ring and Fury showed that he can avoid the errors he have made during the first match. But it's really not the fighter's choice if they want another rematch from happening since if the fans are talking for another fight they know these boxers and promotes see money that will be pouring in onto the next possible fight.

[Theb]

After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.

I don't know if anyone has notice it but after watching the replay of the match you can see that Wilder at the beginning doesn't seem to look confident stepping in the ring, I didn't notice it during the first time and I'm not giving any reasons why Wilder got defeated but when I tried to analyze the replay you'll obviously see that he lacks confidence and Fury was the one throwing the punched while Wilder seems to be leaning in the defensive side maybe trying to feel the match. I don't know but this continued on to the rest of the rounds and Wilder didn't recover from it. He might got a little bit wary during this match maybe brought to by their previous match were Fury dominated the whole match but Wilder got lucky with a draw.

[gentlemand]

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

Even if you knew nothing about nothing that's a pretty alarming signal. I've never seen that before. You'd think someone would have a root around in there before sending him back out.

It might turn out to be harmless enough but it makes you wonder about how diligent they are.

I wonder whether Fury will have another post triumph dive of his spirits or whether it'll spur him on to keep busy.

[suzanne5223]

Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.

The fight was good during the first till third rounds but as you have said everything changed after the ear bleed of Wilder which i believe will literally make Wilder feel dizziness and i thnk the referee didn't stop the fight early in other to clarify peoples doubt.

With that been said, i somehow believed Fury seek Mike Tyson advise before the fight because Mike Tyson was spotted supporting him through the fight.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

Base on the message posted by sportbible there's chance for a third fight.

[rdbase]

Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.

The fight was good during the first till third rounds but as you have said everything changed after the ear bleed of Wilder which i believe will literally make Wilder feel dizziness and i thnk the referee didn't stop the fight early in other to clarify peoples doubt.

With that been said, i somehow believed Fury seek Mike Tyson advise before the fight because Mike Tyson was spotted supporting him through the fight.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

Base on the message posted by sportbible there's chance for a third fight.

A third fight usually means they just do it for bringing in the money and not for the love of the competition.
Just look at money mayweather and his rematches.
And yes, I heard Mike Tyson was going to be at the announcers table during the fight.
I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name.

[gentlemand]

I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name.

He's a proper student of boxing. Anyone passionate about it would be more turned on by Fury than Wilder. He has a rather more complete set of skills. Wilder's good for the spectacle but if you know it all by heart he probably makes you a bit wistful for less flashy and more skilled times.

[South Park]

Well, there's news popping around the Wilder has problems with his knees or something that has been bothering him entering the fight.

Well, I am not saying this is an excuse but things like this are normally coming out after the fight. Tyson has also his own share of rumored injuries before coming into the fight and even his trainer is saying that their fighter is not coming into the ring in 100% condition. But he adds that, "Every fighter, and not even fighters, in every sport. If you train hard, everybody has some kind of an injury, some kind of nick, and that’s just the truth." And that's indeed the truth; bringing it up post-fight will only make you a crybaby.

Before the fight took place, all I could see was a Wilder in his perfect form. But it quickly changed. Right after the very first bell rang, Tyson was already dictating the fight's tempo. And it went all throughout the fight until the towel was thrown from Wilder's corner. I don't think it was a nice decision. Wilder and his trainer themselves didn't agree with it either. Well, they could have risked a few more rounds to see whether their fighter would be able to turn the tide on their side or would be pummeled by the Gypsy King to more injuries.

Anyhow, a trilogy is always an option but that is not the most exciting I guess. The fight was one-sided right from the get-go. It was a complete domination by Fury. Wilder was not able to compose himself. Well, the other 3 belts are held by another British. AJ vs. Fury must be the highest demand from the boxing fans. Dillian Whyte is calling out Tyson but I guess he has to wait.

Fury surprised Wilder, Wilder thought that his right hand was enough to scare Fury and that he will not go after him the way it did, but it seems this time around Fury was completely convinced he could nullify the only asset Wilder has, and he was correct, except for a few punches in the first and second round Fury was able to avoid anything that came his way and it was complete domination from that point on, it was one of the most dominating victories that  I have seen Fury gave no opportunity to Wilder once he had him and used every opportunity to punch him or to tire him out, also he seemed to be in incredible shape since there was not a round in which he seemed to be out of breath and needed to rest despite the huge amount of punches he was throwing.

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

Even if you knew nothing about nothing that's a pretty alarming signal. I've never seen that before. You'd think someone would have a root around in there before sending him back out.

It might turn out to be harmless enough but it makes you wonder about how diligent they are.

I wonder whether Fury will have another post triumph dive of his spirits or whether it'll spur him on to keep busy.

I think it was 2 or 3 rounds he went out without having the ear looked at by a doctor during the breaks, I felt his corner let him down and didn't really give too much attention to the risk's it could have posed there fighter. 

But again they we're probably focused on the $$$ rather then the well being of there fighter which is very sad to see.

It was a good call by the ref to stop when he did if the fight had gone on much longer I fear a few more hit's to the already bleeding ear could have resulted in something far far worse for him.

[TopTort777]

Fury and Joshua should be the next fight.

Or they make a trilogy. Because due to their contract, during 30 days Wilder could ask for a rematch and Fury count not disagree. But that wont be fair to other contestants, who wish to get these belts

But I guess they both need to make a match against someone else, before they meet again.

[JollyGood]

Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time..

Fury got knocked down twice during the first match and you think he is still worthy to win the match? Even if he dominated most of that fight Wilder equalized it by showing in front of the watched including the judges who has the power in the ring. However I do have to agree with you that a third match does not need to happen since we already know now who is the best in the ring and Fury showed that he can avoid the errors he have made during the first match. But it's really not the fighter's choice if they want another rematch from happening since if the fans are talking for another fight they know these boxers and promotes see money that will be pouring in onto the next possible fight.

[btc_angela]

Wilder tried to survive but he just doesn't have anything left. Fury was clearly the more technical and smarter fighter and he showed that in both fights.

After the first knock down he was never the same fighter and Tyson Fury completely dominated the fight and fulfilled what he was preaching before the fight that we would knock out Wilder which i was having my doubts as he was never a knock out fighter but he came up with a different fighting approach than his first fight and Wilder did not have an answer to it. Wilder have a rematch clause and whether he will take that is to be seen and now we might see the Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury fight which will be another huge fight.

I also have the same doubts that the can knock out the Wilder.

But as soon as Wilder hits the canvass, the complexion of the fight changes, Tyson Fury more confident but cautious with Wilder's right. But Deontay was disoriented and it seems he surrendered already as Fury completely dominated the fight.

For me no need for a trilogy, Fury might go heavy again and the same results, Wilder getting knock out maybe under 7 rounds.

They have a third match clause but since the fight is very much one-sided in favor of fury I don't think we need a trilogy just like that we don't need a trilogy for the Joshua Ruiz match, Fury should now go to Joshua's belt and  prove himself that he is the one king of the heavyweight, the world needs this match to happen.

Yes, the second fight was convincing enough that there is no need for a trilogy here.

But we will see, if there is a rematch clause, we might see one down the road. But I think Wilder needs to get some tune up fight first, just to get his confidence back before fighting Fury again. He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.

[mirakal]

He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.

Please don't compare this to AJ vs Ruiz fight as that was clearly an upset and in the 2nd fight AJ proven it, while this fight, both fighters have equal chance of winning based on the betting odds, so I don't agree with a trilogy here but since it's part of the contract, we have no choice but to watch it.

[TravelMug]

He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.

Please don't compare this to AJ vs Ruiz fight as that was clearly an upset and in the 2nd fight AJ proven it, while this fight, both fighters have equal chance of winning based on the betting odds, so I don't agree with a trilogy here but since it's part of the contract, we have no choice but to watch it.

If Wilder exercise wanted to exercise his rematch clause then we can't do anything but to watch it.

There could be more $$$ in the table for a trilogy, so most likely it will happen in my opinion. So everything is on Wilders table, they have 30 days to think about it. So this is more of a psychological effect, for sure his body are more willing, but if his mind is not into it, we might see his getting knock out for good this time.

[Kemarit]

Officially, there is a rematch clause:

Deontay Wilder Has 30 Days To Exercise Clause For Fury Trilogy

There is a contractual clause for a trilogy fight - and Wilder has 30 days to exercise that clause - with the contest taking place in June or July.

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-30-days-exercise-clause-fury-trilogy--147028

So Wilder has a month to decide whether he wanted another part of Fury or not.

Regarding the gate attendance of the fight, it broke heavyweight records in Las Vegas

By the time they entered the ring Saturday night, MGM Grand Garden Arena was packed to capacity. Officials announced a sellout crowd of 15,816 and an MGM Resorts International official confirmed that the live gate for Wilder-Fury II broke the Nevada record for a heavyweight fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-fury-rematch-broke-heavyweight-gate-record-vegas--147020

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

[dunfida]

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

They wont push a trilogy if they do saw that they can make enough money.They do saw the demand and hype so it will surely push through.

He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.

Please don't compare this to AJ vs Ruiz fight as that was clearly an upset and in the 2nd fight AJ proven it, while this fight, both fighters have equal chance of winning based on the betting odds, so I don't agree with a trilogy here but since it's part of the contract, we have no choice but to watch it.

Dont know why other people trying to compare AJ vs Ruiz fight than into this one.

[freedomgo]

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

So basically this is all about money, right?
Why not give us the best match up in the heavy weight division, yes Wilder lose and we've seen enough from him, he could still lose in another rematch, what about AJ vs  Fury? I think this fight is more interesting, isn't it?

[btc_angela]

He can still recover from this lost, just like AJ did.

Please don't compare this to AJ vs Ruiz fight as that was clearly an upset and in the 2nd fight AJ proven it, while this fight, both fighters have equal chance of winning based on the betting odds, so I don't agree with a trilogy here but since it's part of the contract, we have no choice but to watch it.

I'm comparing it in terms of the psychological trauma that both fighters is experiencing. AJ was clearly upset and many doubt that he can return and beat Ruiz but he did. So there's a possibility that Wilder is experiencing the same psychological trauma that AJ had prior to his rematch. But it takes a lot of mental toughness to overcome it, just saying.

[JollyGood]

Well if there was any dispute about the first fight there cannot be any debate about the second. In my country all the odds were in favour of a Fury win and most boxing analysts and ex-boxers had Fury to win too.

I think the fight was over before Fury busted the Wilder eardrum, it reminded me of when Joshua lost to Ruiz because he clearly did not want to be in the ring that night and Wilder was almost the same as that. I got the feeling he was not ready for the fight and maybe had some domestic issues which he brought into the ring as they were not resolved before the fight and he lost focus. Only Wilder would know the truth.

As for a third fight, I hope Wilder does not trigger the clause and sign up for it. I think Fury should go ahead with a try to get Joshua in the ring so either one of them would become undisputed heavyweight champion. I am confident Fury will knock Joshua out.

There should not be a third match. Fury was robbed by crooked scorecard judges in the first match. Maybe Wilder and his pride might want a third match but the team know their man will lose and maybe get more heavily punished next time.

Fury and Joshua should be the next fight. I have no doubt whatsoever Fury will win within 5 or 6 rounds against Joshua and will go on to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

It is all over for Wilder. He is 34 years old, if he wants to rebuild his career he should take a long break then return fighting 3 or 4 handpicked lower ranked opponents then try to get one last shot at the title again.

I don't think Fury was robbed. It was a fairly equal fight in my opinion but you're forgetting Fury was knocked down twice and he was lucky to get back up. Another round in the first fight and I doubt he would have got back up. People forget that anything can happen in boxing. Doesn't matter how tough you are or if you're unbeaten; one punch and it can all be over. Wilder was the favourite going into this  but it was obvious that punch to the ear that made it bleed threw him off for the rest of the right. I think a rematch would be right in this situation. First was a draw and this one was won by the coach throwing in the towel, although I'm sure Fury would have got a KO had it been allowed to continue. Fury should fight AJ and I'm sure he will at some point but not sure it would be before another Fury fight and likely the Wilder trilogy.

[Kemarit]

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

So basically this is all about money, right?
Why not give us the best match up in the heavy weight division, yes Wilder lose and we've seen enough from him, he could still lose in another rematch, what about AJ vs  Fury? I think this fight is more interesting, isn't it?

I guess every sports today, including boxing is business. That's why fighters are looking for money fight. And remember that Fury is being promoted by Bob Arum, the same manager that guide Pacquiao, and earn tons of money from him.

Of course as boxing fans we wanted to see them fighting each other, specially in the top 5 or even 10.

I also like AJ vs Fury, but it is still up to the boxing promoters and managers to give their fighters the most money. Wilder could fight Whyte next or Andy Ruiz if he doesn't want to sign and fight Fury again.

[Sanitough]

I also like AJ vs Fury, but it is still up to the boxing promoters and managers to give their fighters the most money. Wilder could fight Whyte next or Andy Ruiz if he doesn't want to sign and fight Fury again.

Please can we stop including Ruiz already, this guy just got lucky once and was already exposed.

If they like to bring big money, they should bring in a Fury vs AJ fight, at least both of them came from a real big win, or maybe AJ vs Wilder, I would still bet on the Wilder to demolished AJ though.

[JohnBitCo]

Officially, there is a rematch clause:

Deontay Wilder Has 30 Days To Exercise Clause For Fury Trilogy

There is a contractual clause for a trilogy fight - and Wilder has 30 days to exercise that clause - with the contest taking place in June or July.

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-30-days-exercise-clause-fury-trilogy--147028

So Wilder has a month to decide whether he wanted another part of Fury or not.

Regarding the gate attendance of the fight, it broke heavyweight records in Las Vegas

By the time they entered the ring Saturday night, MGM Grand Garden Arena was packed to capacity. Officials announced a sellout crowd of 15,816 and an MGM Resorts International official confirmed that the live gate for Wilder-Fury II broke the Nevada record for a heavyweight fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-fury-rematch-broke-heavyweight-gate-record-vegas--147020

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

So it look like wilder will agree to the third fight and/or he will be made to agree in the favor for the boxing association to get the revenue for this highly anticipated encounter.
If they agree to this fight, will it happen in Las Vegas or the venue will be changed ?

[Bttzed03]

~
He wasn't out of shape. That's what getting punched in the head/ear can do to you. Same thing happened in the Joshua fight.

This is not my thing. What I know is that you get wobbled temporarily when you're hit in the ear/behind the ear but he wasn't punch hard there in rounds one and two.

@Theb mentioned that Wilder wasn't his confident self and I also saw that from the first round. He was really off. Maybe we weren't used to seeing him backpedaling.

[ampere]

WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING .

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

I told my pals after the match, if Wilder requests for a rematch then perhaps he doesn't wanna box again lol
Fury furiously sent him out of the ring straight to the hospital for treatment.

In boxing, it is bad to be a sore loser.
If Wilder gets a rematch, it will be the same results.

Let's look forward to Fury vs Anthony Joshua

[Pamadar]

WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING .

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

I told my pals after the match, if Wilder requests for a rematch then perhaps he doesn't wanna box again lol
Fury furiously sent him out of the ring straight to the hospital for treatment.

In boxing, it is bad to be a sore loser.
If Wilder gets a rematch, it will be the same results.

Let's look forward to Fury vs Anthony Joshua

That's much better, bringing new match and forget about another rematch from this two fighters. Wilder needs to forget about taking another chance to prove himself, fans will be much interested seeing Joshua to fight with Fury if organizers will make this things to materialized more and money to flow
with this market. Heavyweights bringing the light from this sports.

[mu_enrico]

Damn, I missed this match! I've just come back from Youtube and shocked about how Fury outclassed Wilder that much. I've predicted Fury would win, but not dominating like this.

I think Fury got a bit lucky with the "AJ-like damage" received by Wilder with that right hook. Wilder just couldn't recover after that blow. However, I'll still bet Fury wins 9 out of 10 (1 draw) versus Wilder.

[mirakal]

Damn, I missed this match! I've just come back from Youtube and shocked about how Fury outclassed Wilder that much. I've predicted Fury would win, but not dominating like this.

I think Fury got a bit lucky with the "AJ-like damage" received by Wilder with that right hook. Wilder just couldn't recover after that blow. However, I'll still bet Fury wins 9 out of 10 (1 draw) versus Wilder.

Wilder was lucky that he was still able to get up after being down in the 3rd round, Fury knows how to win and he didn't lie when he said he will knock out Wilder, and this guy just beat the guy who has the biggest knockout percentage in the history.

[suzanne5223]

Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.

The fight was good during the first till third rounds but as you have said everything changed after the ear bleed of Wilder which i believe will literally make Wilder feel dizziness and i thnk the referee didn't stop the fight early in other to clarify peoples doubt.

With that been said, i somehow believed Fury seek Mike Tyson advise before the fight because Mike Tyson was spotted supporting him through the fight.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

Base on the message posted by sportbible there's chance for a third fight.

A third fight usually means they just do it for bringing in the money and not for the love of the competition.
Just look at money Mayweather and his rematches.

Maybe not or maybe yes but we cant use Mayweather rematches to judge because Mayweather is knew for making money through his fights while Fury and Wilder are foes (they like each other but they always claim to be best than each other)

And yes, I heard Mike Tyson was going to be at the announcers table during the fight.
I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name.

That's what i also believed either.

[hilariousetc]

Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

The ref didn't stop it. Wilder's trainer threw the towel in. It did look like the ref stopped it during the fight but on the subsequent after fight replays it shows the towel coming in. I was confused at first as I didn't think the ref should have called it off.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

Even if you knew nothing about nothing that's a pretty alarming signal. I've never seen that before. You'd think someone would have a root around in there before sending him back out.

It might turn out to be harmless enough but it makes you wonder about how diligent they are.

It could have just been a harmless cut on the ear or something much more serious - perforated ear drum or even bleeding on the brain. If they had concerns it was something serious they shouldn't have let him go back out, but most fighters are stubborn and have too much pride to call it off themselves and will continue on at all costs.

A third fight usually means they just do it for bringing in the money and not for the love of the competition.
Just look at money mayweather and his rematches.
And yes, I heard Mike Tyson was going to be at the announcers table during the fight.
I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name.

Again, boxing is all about the money. They don't do these fights for fun and for the love of the sport. Besides, a trilogy makes sense. The first was a draw and this was one by Wilder's camp throwing in the towel. A third fight can determine the rightful winner if there's a clear KO. The AJ fight makes sense but I think he's said potentially 2021 so Fury will probably fight before then and Wilder will be his next best opponent, and he'll have to fight him if Wilder requests the trilogy anyway.

Yes, the second fight was convincing enough that there is no need for a trilogy here.

Not if it was all due to the ear injury. That would have explained his lack of balance and unsteadiness of his feet. I thought Wilder was the better fighter in the first fight. This one was obviously Fury's but that ear injury could explain why he was so off and that's why I'd like to see the third fight.

Officially, there is a rematch clause:

Deontay Wilder Has 30 Days To Exercise Clause For Fury Trilogy

There is a contractual clause for a trilogy fight - and Wilder has 30 days to exercise that clause - with the contest taking place in June or July.

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-30-days-exercise-clause-fury-trilogy--147028

So Wilder has a month to decide whether he wanted another part of Fury or not.

By the time they entered the ring Saturday night, MGM Grand Garden Arena was packed to capacity. Officials announced a sellout crowd of 15,816 and an MGM Resorts International official confirmed that the live gate for Wilder-Fury II broke the Nevada record for a heavyweight fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-fury-rematch-broke-heavyweight-gate-record-vegas--147020

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

~
He wasn't out of shape. That's what getting punched in the head/ear can do to you. Same thing happened in the Joshua fight.

This is not my thing. What I know is that you get wobbled temporarily when you're hit in the ear/behind the ear but he wasn't punch hard there in rounds one and two.

It depends how hard you get punched and where. One good punch can turn your legs to jelly and some people can't even stand after that and getting hit in the ear can throw your balance off completely.

[gentlemand]

I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

[Sanitough]

In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

For us fans here maybe but for those promoters who like to make money, they can easily hype the rematch again so they can sell this fight.
As a boxing fan, I can compare this with a Mayweather vs Pacman possible rematch and fans like to see it although it's obvious that it was Mayweather who easily win against Pacman in the first fight, this is no different, big names fight big names will hype the fans.

[stadus]

Wilder has been reigning undefeated monster in the heavyweight division so this should be another day at office for him.
Although, last time they fought wilder was outclassed by experience but right now he has defended his title for quite some time now, the experience should already be there. Im expecting wilder has improved.

Are you aware that Wilder loss to Fury in the 2nd fight? Man, he is no undefeated anymore and he has not defended his title.

here's the highlight if you haven't seen it yet : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GgRNrZFi8

[fortunecrypto]

I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming, but this fight should have a hype because as you can see Wilder is badly beaten and totally outclassed, he will need to convinced the paying public that we will show a different stuff in their third meeting.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

[rosezionjohn]

Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming,

A link to this would be nice. I can't find recent articles.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua.

I was looking for an article about Wilder's team invoking a third match as what fortunecrypto said but I found this one instead https://www.worldfightnews.com/joshua-wants-wilder-before-the-third-wilder-fury-fight/ Joshua was expecting Wilder to win the second fight but he also said he doesn't mind having a unification bout with Fury. It's nice to see that none of them is trying to hide.

[stadus]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

[robelneo]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

I really think that this fight should happen, because people will continue to question Joshua's reputation because he has not fought something as big as Fury and someone as strong as Wilder, no question Fury is the lineal champion for winning all the belts on all existing boxing organization, but a third rematch was invoked by Wilder's camp, so we'll see what's coming up in the heavyweight division.

[Finestream]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

That's likely to happen as AJ was beaten by Ruiz which is short and fat, so he will surely struggle when he will face Fury, but the question is, will he fight Fury soon? the likelihood of it happening is might be 50/50... we are aware that AJ challenge Wilder to fight him in the UK, but that was before Wilder got his first lose, https://www.sportsjoe.ie/boxing/deontay-wilder-accepts-anthony-joshua-challenge-fight-uk-155754

so if AJ want a fight, I think he should challenge the new champ.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

I dunno, I think if Fury is 100% motivated & dedicated to training then he might be favourite. I think Fury is a more skilful boxer but AJ packs the bigger punch & can KO anybody.

If you pushed me to pick a winner I’d say Fury on points but only if he sticks to his new found disciplined lifestyle. If he falls off the wagon & gets fat between fights then AJ by KO.

[JollyGood]

What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters 

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

[fortunecrypto]

What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters 

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

That's possible but if the fight will push through I'm definite that Fury can easily take Joshua but there is a rematch clause and Wilder wants a rematch and so we are going to see a third match I don't know how they are going to hype the third fight when one fighter totally dominated the other fighter, it will be hard to sell the next fight.

[hilariousetc]

I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

I think you can argue this fight wasn't won in the ideal way with the towel being thrown in. I would think the third fight would be far bigger in terms of viewership/Pay-per view.

Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming,

A link to this would be nice. I can't find recent articles.

There's nothing yet just speculation, but I would be very surprised if Wilder didn't want the rematch. Makes a lot of sense for him.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua.

I was looking for an article about Wilder's team invoking a third match as what fortunecrypto said but I found this one instead https://www.worldfightnews.com/joshua-wants-wilder-before-the-third-wilder-fury-fight/ Joshua was expecting Wilder to win the second fight but he also said he doesn't mind having a unification bout with Fury. It's nice to see that none of them is trying to hide.

The AJ/Fury fight makes sense and would probably be the biggest PPV ever, at least in England. They could also sell out the biggest venue available, but there's two huge potential issues for it to be the next fight. One is the Wilder rematch clause that would have to happen this year (probably before summer) and AJ is probably going to fight Pulev in June and that's all but a done deal. The only way that won't happen is if Wilder doesn't invoke the rematch clause and then they will go ahead with trying to get the Fury/AJ done.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

Fury will be sure the favourite now, but I still think they fairly equal fighters. Wilder obviously got shook and that threw him off, and that's why I'd like to see the third fight as anything can happen.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

I dunno, I think if Fury is 100% motivated & dedicated to training then he might be favourite. I think Fury is a more skilful boxer but AJ packs the bigger punch & can KO anybody.

If you pushed me to pick a winner I’d say Fury on points but only if he sticks to his new found disciplined lifestyle. If he falls off the wagon & gets fat between fights then AJ by KO.

I think they're also quite equal fighters, but I think Fury might edge it as long as he stays in shape. I really can't see Fury going nuts again though. He'd be a fool if he did. He's on top of the world right now and whatever his next fights are they're going to make him more money than he can ever spend.

[TopTort777]

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

[JollyGood]

I think Wilder will not take up the rematch clause because he needs time to recover from the physical beating and the mental stress, it should pave the way for the Fury-Joshua fight to get the go-ahead

What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters 

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!

That's possible but if the fight will push through I'm definite that Fury can easily take Joshua but there is a rematch clause and Wilder wants a rematch and so we are going to see a third match I don't know how they are going to hype the third fight when one fighter totally dominated the other fighter, it will be hard to sell the next fight.

[gentlemand]

I think you can argue this fight wasn't won in the ideal way with the towel being thrown in. I would think the third fight would be far bigger in terms of viewership/Pay-per view.

The alternative would possibly have been him finishing the fight as a twitching vegetable. It was a pretty emphatic victory. The first fight raised questions. This one answered them for good.

I'm sure a third fight would do fine. It wouldn't have anywhere near the same urgency and drama.

[7788bitcoin]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

That is the next fight to make Joshua and Fury could break many records and it will be the biggest fight in terms of revenue rather than a trilogy with Wilder as Fury defeated Wilder in the first fight as he won most of the rounds even though the judges called it a draw we all knew what was the real result and Fury came out and performed exactly what he said he is going to do in the fight before the fight and everyone laughed at him and he executed exactly what he said and there is nothing else to prove with a fight against Wilder and i am sure the Wilder team will advice him not to revoke the rematch clause within 30 days.

[JollyGood]

No doubt about it, Fury is fast for a big man (6ft 9in) and his mobility over his opponent will be one of the key reasons he will beat Joshua.

If Joshua has a chance of winning he should forget about trying to box it to 12 rounds and win on points, the fight will be over long before that and if it did make it to 12 rounds he would not win on points. The only chance he has to win against Fury is to hope he can knock him out early on but the odds heavily favour Fury to win.


 

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

[Jating]

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

Right, make sense for all Brits unification fight, that is if Wilder doesn't exercise his rematch clause.

This could be huge as well but as seeing Fury winning this easily though, he is too technical and him proving that he is no pillow fisted fighter. AJ chin which is weak compare to him and Wilder, so if Fury touches that chin AJ will have nightmares again, flashback of Any Ruiz, Lol.

[Kemarit]

I also like AJ vs Fury, but it is still up to the boxing promoters and managers to give their fighters the most money. Wilder could fight Whyte next or Andy Ruiz if he doesn't want to sign and fight Fury again.

Please can we stop including Ruiz already, this guy just got lucky once and was already exposed.

I'm talking about Wilder's perspective him. Majority doesn't want a rematch with Fury, so what is the best option for Wilder? His stock obviously goes down because of the lost and he needs a good win to get back into the contention again. So why is Ruiz a a good option? If he can beat Ruiz and knock him out then they can say that he beat him more convincingly than Joshua did, which just avoided Ruiz through the whole 12 rounds. So Ruiz will be a good leverage for him.

If they like to bring big money, they should bring in a Fury vs AJ fight, at least both of them came from a real big win, or maybe AJ vs Wilder, I would still bet on the Wilder to demolished AJ though.

Of course the best option for Fury is to really fight Joshua next and unify the belt, big and easy payday for him. I don't think that Joshua will call Wilder though.

[Harlot]

Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

You are talking as if Deontay Wilder ended his career with that match but the truth is careers as good as Wilder don't end like that. Some fighters in the industry like McGregor, Pacquiao, Golovkin didn't let their blemish record define their career and look they still manage to win some games. Yeah a rematch might not be soon to come since that is how hype fight works, promoters will tend to dodge everything for a long time so that they can heat things up for the fans. Fury has the privilege to choose his next match while Wilder will go in a different route to reclaim in order throne and that's how it works for both of them.

[Zicadis]

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

[JollyGood]

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

You are talking as if Deontay Wilder ended his career with that match but the truth is careers as good as Wilder don't end like that. Some fighters in the industry like McGregor, Pacquiao, Golovkin didn't let their blemish record define their career and look they still manage to win some games. Yeah a rematch might not be soon to come since that is how hype fight works, promoters will tend to dodge everything for a long time so that they can heat things up for the fans. Fury has the privilege to choose his next match while Wilder will go in a different route to reclaim in order throne and that's how it works for both of them.

[7788bitcoin]

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean by weak, not having a body building kind of body , i bet Tyson Fury will win against Joshua simply because of his boxing skills and the confidence of an undefeated fighter and he always rises to the occasion.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

There is no doubt about his chin and he took the hardest punch of Wilder where no one was able to do and went into aggression mode after that.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

There is no point in having a fight between Ruiz and Fury but Joshua is the next big fight for Fury and once he unifies all the belt i am sure he will retire from boxing as he achieved everything he started and will reach a legend status that no one achieved.

[btc_angela]

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean weaker? I would agree that Joshua body has more muscles though.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

AJ has been knock down thru his career, so obviously his chin is not that strong as compare to Fury. But yes, his height and reach will be very difficult for AJ plus Fury is more technically sound. So I'm sure that Fury will be the favourite if those two will face in the ring.

[gentlemand]

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

[ene1980]

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

As usual every fighter will come up with a ton of excuses, he was completely dominated and if the towel was not thrown he would have injured badly and it was a wise decision from his corner as they are there to protect the fighter, he can come up with any excuses and i do not think that Wilder will reinvent is boxing style at this age and with this style he is not going to beat Fury how many times they face.

[bbc.reporter]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

[virasog]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

So you mean to say that the fight was fixed ?

No, it was not. Fury attacked more than Wilder and he was spot on. You can check here where Fury drops Wilder Twice, Finishes Wilder in the 7th . Fury dominated the all 7 rounds and was deserving champ.

[Botnake]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

So you mean to say that the fight was fixed ?

No, it was not. Fury attacked more than Wilder and he was spot on. You can check here where Fury drops Wilder Twice, Finishes Wilder in the 7th . Fury dominated the all 7 rounds and was deserving champ.

I will be convince that the fight is fix if in their first fight it was Wilder who dominated Fury, but it's not what is happening, in fact people think Fury won the first fight but unfortunately the judges scored a draw, this rematch we witnessed is legit, there is no fix in it, it's just that wilder was exposed, that's it.

[hilariousetc]

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

What personal issues? Wilder was at the top of his game and held the belt, so he's not going to vacate it or have a few warm up fights with nobodies. Fighting a few bums is pointless when you can fight the best of the rest and make the big bucks doing so. I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

Well that's his excuse. Not sure I buy it, but if true then he doesn't have anyone else to blame. These costumes they come out in are getting a bit silly, especially if they're effecting their game.

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

Why don't you track down Tyson Fury and ask him to punch you in the face and head repeatedly and see how your legs are after it. Or maybe it will be something in your water when you struggle to stand? 

[TopTort777]

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean weaker? I would agree that Joshua body has more muscles though.

But body muscles is not the primary in boxing. And Andy Ruiz proved that (and number of other boxer with jelly belly). All you need is speed, strong neck and stamina.

Btw, I'm writing this post while eating Ruiz's favourite snickers bar

I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

I'm sure Wilder will be the same. He is not a heavyweight. He is just a cruiserweight that gained pounds and is aimed to "one-punch-KO" strategy. Fury is just more heavy and punches too hard for him.

[hilariousetc]

I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

I'm sure Wilder will be the same. He is not a heavyweight. He is just a cruiserweight that gained pounds and is aimed to "one-punch-KO" strategy. Fury is just more heavy and punches too hard for him.

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice? Even Fury admits it was a miracle he got up. I think that's why I'm looking forward to a third fight even more because who knows what will happen. If we get the Wilder from the first fight vs Fury from the second anything can happen. Wilder still can throw bombs, but it was obvious something shook him from early on, but there wasn't anything particular deadly from Fury that you can pinpoint as to the reason why. Could have been the ear injury or Wilder's excuses about the weight of his costume, both, or even something else entirely. Wilder's ear injury didn't seem to have been anything serious though and looks like it was just a cut on the outside so I'm not sure how much that would effect him ultimately.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-handed-six-week-21571398

Deontay Wilder handed six-week suspension after Tyson Fury defeat

What is the point in that? Since when do boxers have another fight within six weeks  .

[Viscore]

What is the point in that? Since when do boxers have another fight within six weeks  .

6 weeks from the time his injury was treated, this guy can't spar to prepare on their rematch, we don't know yet when it will happen but hopefully it will still take months so both fighters will be more prepared in the 3rd fight especially Wilder who has been injured in this fight.

A real champion will seek for a revenge and I don't know how he will do that but let's give him a chance, it's correct that he almost KOd Fury in the first fight but most rounds are still won by Fury, Wilder is just lucky that the decision ended up a draw, but it's just my personal opinion.

[gentlemand]

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice?

But that's all he's got. He's would need to start from scratch to put together more skills than simply waiting to unleash one huge punch. Most of his matches were a waiting game until that moment can happen. Since he didn't get started until 20 and is now 34 it would be pretty miraculous for him to be reborn as a fully rounded boxer.

If he retains his main trainer then it's clear he's not very interested in changing or learning and the talk of going out on his shield is daffy. I would've had a corner clear out just like Fury.

I've no doubt he'll be sharper next time. That may not make him any better a boxer.

[7788bitcoin]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

[Finestream]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

Funny, boxers who are too confident does not know how to accept defeat, maybe right now instead of thinking how he can win in the 3rd fight, I think he should make himself busy thinking of a good excuse, really, I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

[robelneo]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

Yeah, I also saw that video but I think he is trying to condition the mind of the boxing world that he wants to invoke the third match clause and he wants to sell the third fight this early, but I doubt it will sell because the loss is very fresh, the two knock downs and the bloodied Wilder is still fresh in the minds of the boxing world, he should take a break and fight a different fighter like Andy Ruiz so he can recover.

[JollyGood]

Wilder mentioned in the ring after he was defeated that he was carrying baggage in to the ring, he definitely was not the same fighter that fought Fury in the first fight. He alluded to things on his mind that he could not shake off therefore was not fully focused.

Even if there is a third fight, I agree with you in that we will see a different Wilder but I disagree with you when you say he will not make the same mistakes. Once he is on the receiving end of a barrage of punches to the head from Fury I am sure he will not be able to control the narrative and the result will be the same - a victory for Fury.

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

What personal issues? Wilder was at the top of his game and held the belt, so he's not going to vacate it or have a few warm up fights with nobodies. Fighting a few bums is pointless when you can fight the best of the rest and make the big bucks doing so. I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

[mirakal]

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

Wilder does not believe he will be destroyed again, he was a champion with only one defeat it's just good to give him another chance.. other reason is the money he will get in the 3rd match, and if Conor challenge Pacman to a fight even knowing he has no chance, why not give a chance to a real fighter like Wilder.

[7788bitcoin]

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice? Even Fury admits it was a miracle he got up. I think that's why I'm looking forward to a third fight even more because who knows what will happen. If we get the Wilder from the first fight vs Fury from the second anything can happen. Wilder still can throw bombs, but it was obvious something shook him from early on, but there wasn't anything particular deadly from Fury that you can pinpoint as to the reason why.

Fury changed his boxing style completely in the second fight and Wilder could not do anything substantial as he was punched to the pulp throughout the fight and there is no excuse about it and with the big ego Wilder is having he will find an excuse and he might go for the trilogy.
The problem with these is that, if you check back history all these intimidating fighters once they looses then they are never the same.

Yeah, I also saw that video but I think he is trying to condition the mind of the boxing world that he wants to invoke the third match clause and he wants to sell the third fight this early, but I doubt it will sell because the loss is very fresh, the two knock downs and the bloodied Wilder is still fresh in the minds of the boxing world, he should take a break and fight a different fighter like Andy Ruiz so he can recover.

The second fight was really huge and if they are to fight again in a short period then they cannot garner the same level of anticipation because everyone knows what will be the result as there is no doubt in anyone's mind who the superior boxer is even after the first fight and to come out and fight exactly how Fury was telling all throughout the fight week, it is legendary.

[Viscore]

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

They have already plan this that is why there was a "rematch clause", and if Wilder will fight another boxer and he wins easily, what would change, people would still think that he is afraid to fight Fury again and has not use his change to prove himself again that he can beat Fury.

I think after the this 3rd fight and still he lose, he can try to fight another boxer, but what people likes to see now is the Trilogy, they are not even talking about AJ as Fury and Wilder is the big market in heavy weight  boxing now.

[mu_enrico]

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

Dude... Wilder lost his title, and the closest opportunity to getting it back is via this rematch. No sane boxer would miss this kind of opportunity, no matter how outclassed they were.

If Wilder loses again in the 3rd fight, I don't think he would wear the "champ" belt for quite some time since Fury would move to the next opponent.

[beerlover]

Are we sure we are all talking about the same guy? I mean Deontay Wilder literally went 42 matches without a loss, he had only one draw which was a lot of controversy but even if we consider that a loss, he would be 42 wins and 2 losses right now, he only has one loss which just happened in all of his career. Dude is also just 34 years old in a sport where even 40 years old people are fighting today, maybe not in his weight class but it certainly happens, with the advancement of technology and medicine sports players are playing well into their 40's now and he could very well do that as well.

I am not saying he will be a great boxer from now out, he had his best years behind him, but he could very well challenge for a new fight one day, which he might win or lose I don't know.

[South Park]

Dude... Wilder lost his title, and the closest opportunity to getting it back is via this rematch. No sane boxer would miss this kind of opportunity, no matter how outclassed they were.

If Wilder loses again in the 3rd fight, I don't think he would wear the "champ" belt for quite some time since Fury would move to the next opponent.

I have the same perspective, if Wilder has any desire to be a champion again then he will need to take the rematch fight immediately, even if he losses the next fight as well he has something to prove, he was completely dominated during this fight, he only put up mild resistance during the first two rounds and from there everything was about Fury, he at least needs to show he can present opposition to Fury or whatever legacy he wanted to create will go down the drain, and if he avoids the fight then the natural fight that will follow will be Fury vs Joshua and he will probably have to wait for years for another shot.

[hilariousetc]

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice?

But that's all he's got. He's would need to start from scratch to put together more skills than simply waiting to unleash one huge punch. Most of his matches were a waiting game until that moment can happen. Since he didn't get started until 20 and is now 34 it would be pretty miraculous for him to be reborn as a fully rounded boxer.

I don't think that's all he's got and I think you're being a bit harsh. Fury was lucky to get up in the first fight and it's a miracle he did. I think the third fight will see a lot more of Wilder and regardless of when Wilder started he's clearly earned his place in the world of boxing. I'd much rather see this fight again than them both fight some bums because that's what will happen unless they can make the AJ fight happen but that will be off the cards soon, both with Wilder taking the rematch and AJ's next fight against Pulev is almost a done deal.

If he retains his main trainer then it's clear he's not very interested in changing or learning and the talk of going out on his shield is daffy. I would've had a corner clear out just like Fury.

I've no doubt he'll be sharper next time. That may not make him any better a boxer.

He's already sacked him apparently (which isn't surprising): https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-trainer-mark-breland-sacked-tyson-fury-rematch-jay-deas-a9356326.html

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

The maker of Fury's costume has come out and said the costume wouldn't have made a difference to his performance  :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/boxing/51634231

The designer of Tyson Fury’s boxing outfits has told BBC Radio 5 Live that Deontay Wilder’s ring-walk costume wouldn’t have impacted the result of the fight.

Melissa Anglesea is the creative director of Lancashire-based Suzi Wong. The company has made Tyson Fury's shorts and robes since the start of his boxing career.

Wilder told US media that Fury didn't actually hurt him, but he lost because his costume was too heavy meaning his legs were "shot" from the beginning of the fight.

Anglesea dismissed Wilder’s claim and said the costume worn by the American made “absolutely no ounce of difference".

Hopefully he won't have any excuses for the next fight.

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

If he was smart he'll take the Fury fight. He'd be stupid to throw away a chance to get his belt back and fight a fighter like Fury again, because if he doesn't take it now that he won't get another chance as Fury will move onto bigger things. This is the biggest money making fight he can take right now, win or lose, and the only person that has something to lose now is Fury. It would be a huge step back for him if he actually lost as AJ will likely then go for Wilder unless Fury has a rematch clause then here we go again  .

Are we sure we are all talking about the same guy? I mean Deontay Wilder literally went 42 matches without a loss, he had only one draw which was a lot of controversy but even if we consider that a loss, he would be 42 wins and 2 losses right now, he only has one loss which just happened in all of his career. Dude is also just 34 years old in a sport where even 40 years old people are fighting today, maybe not in his weight class but it certainly happens, with the advancement of technology and medicine sports players are playing well into their 40's now and he could very well do that as well.

I am not saying he will be a great boxer from now out, he had his best years behind him, but he could very well challenge for a new fight one day, which he might win or lose I don't know.

Yeah, I think people are being very harsh. One loss and they're making it out like he's done. Sure, he got shook in that fight but it can happen to the best of boxers. Nobody expected Fury to almost get KOd in the previous fight and he almost lost that one but one loss or draw doesn't take away from all their other achievements.

[JollyGood]

I did not say Wilder does not deserve another shot at Fury via the contract clause, all I said was that he should not invoke the re-match and instead take a break then come back fresh. He might be better off fighting a few lesser known opponents to build up confidence then arrange a fight for the heavyweight title.

Maybe you are right, Wilder might believe he will not get destroyed - let us see what happens because he still has around 27 days to force the re-match or tell the Fury camp he will not take it.

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

Wilder does not believe he will be destroyed again, he was a champion with only one defeat it's just good to give him another chance.. other reason is the money he will get in the 3rd match, and if Conor challenge Pacman to a fight even knowing he has no chance, why not give a chance to a real fighter like Wilder.

[DarkDays]

Are we sure we are all talking about the same guy? I mean Deontay Wilder literally went 42 matches without a loss, he had only one draw which was a lot of controversy but even if we consider that a loss, he would be 42 wins and 2 losses right now, he only has one loss which just happened in all of his career. Dude is also just 34 years old in a sport where even 40 years old people are fighting today, maybe not in his weight class but it certainly happens, with the advancement of technology and medicine sports players are playing well into their 40's now and he could very well do that as well.

I am not saying he will be a great boxer from now out, he had his best years behind him, but he could very well challenge for a new fight one day, which he might win or lose I don't know.

Who is he going to challenge?

Tyson Fury is likely going to fight AJ and grab all of the belts once he wins.

We can only assume that Deontay Wilder will execute his rematch with Fury and they'll fight next. Based on their previous performances, Fury will smash Wilder once again.

Then Fury will go and grab all the belts and become undisputed.

Do you really think that Wilder will get a title shot before he retires, given the fact that he would probably also get beaten by Oleksander Usyk and get knocked down the rankings?

Realistically I don't see him getting another title shot after he loses to Fury again in a few months.

[Natalim]

Realistically I don't see him getting another title shot after he loses to Fury again in a few months.

Well, he needs to win the 3rd fight so he will have a chance to retire being a champion and could potentially make more money in the possible 4th fight.
Though Wilder lose badly, but we can't deny the fact that this guy makes history having the most KO wins in all his fights and there still a lot of people who believes in him they'll want him fight again against Fury, believe me, this would be an epic fights for these two biggy in boxing sports.

[Welsh]

You know what. This whole excuse about the costume thing has left a sour taste in my mouth. I've never really supported Wilder, and I'm definitely a Fury fan, however I left that fight having a little bit of respect for Wilder for the way he refused to give in. I've seem boxers take dives before, and from a much less of a beating than Wilder was given. However, waking up to the news of Wilder's excuses regarding the costume, and his statements of "Fury didn't hurt me" has made me lose all respect for him. He had a better response inside that ring when he was still concussed, yet a few days later when hes had time to absorb the loss, and the embarrassment he comes out with these absurd claims. The fact that he would have had to try on that costume, and he still decided to take about 5 minutes to walk to the ring. I knew Wilder was a one dimensional fighter, but I didn't expect him to be so blind to the fact that a heavy costume doesn't make you bleed, and not be able to throw your arms.

Its just annoying. Fury was hoping to retire after 3 fights, and we now have to wait for the "big" fight against Joshua. I'm a Fury fan, so I want him to beat Joshua, rematch with his old pal Chisora, and then retire undefeated. I don't want him to not go out with a bang, because I think Fury is the type of person that needs to do things his own way or he could have issues mentally, and not feeling fulfilled. Unless, its a loss I actually think Fury would deal with a loss very well, because he absolutely knows he would have been bested, but if he doesn't get this fight with Joshua at all I fear for his mental health. I want him to have the chance to prove himself to the world as the best of the division. Plus, us fans are going to be in for a hell of a show. I will say, the rematch with Wilder isn't going to be a boring fight. Wilder still has that potential to catch him early, and change the fight completely. Although, what I will say. He would need to knock Fury clean out, because whenever Fury has been knocked down he gets back up, and tends to win the rest of the fight. I've never seen him completely rocked. Even, when he got tagged hard by Wilder last time he got back up without his legs betraying him or anything. It was a bit of a miracle that he woke up in time as he appeared completely out for a second or two, but once he was up he was completely there, and went on to win the round.

[Zicadis]

You know what. This whole excuse about the costume thing has left a sour taste in my mouth. I've never really supported Wilder, and I'm definitely a Fury fan, however I left that fight having a little bit of respect for Wilder for the way he refused to give in. I've seem boxers take dives before, and from a much less of a beating than Wilder was given. However, waking up to the news of Wilder's excuses regarding the costume, and his statements of "Fury didn't hurt me" has made me lose all respect for him. He had a better response inside that ring when he was still concussed, yet a few days later when hes had time to absorb the loss, and the embarrassment he comes out with these absurd claims. The fact that he would have had to try on that costume, and he still decided to take about 5 minutes to walk to the ring. I knew Wilder was a one dimensional fighter, but I didn't expect him to be so blind to the fact that a heavy costume doesn't make you bleed, and not be able to throw your arms.

Its just annoying. Fury was hoping to retire after 3 fights, and we now have to wait for the "big" fight against Joshua. I'm a Fury fan, so I want him to beat Joshua, rematch with his old pal Chisora, and then retire undefeated. I don't want him to not go out with a bang, because I think Fury is the type of person that needs to do things his own way or he could have issues mentally, and not feeling fulfilled. Unless, its a loss I actually think Fury would deal with a loss very well, because he absolutely knows he would have been bested, but if he doesn't get this fight with Joshua at all I fear for his mental health. I want him to have the chance to prove himself to the world as the best of the division. Plus, us fans are going to be in for a hell of a show. I will say, the rematch with Wilder isn't going to be a boring fight. Wilder still has that potential to catch him early, and change the fight completely. Although, what I will say. He would need to knock Fury clean out, because whenever Fury has been knocked down he gets back up, and tends to win the rest of the fight. I've never seen him completely rocked. Even, when he got tagged hard by Wilder last time he got back up without his legs betraying him or anything. It was a bit of a miracle that he woke up in time as he appeared completely out for a second or two, but once he was up he was completely there, and went on to win the round.

Well if the costume really did weigh 20kg like he said then I can see that it really would have had an effect on his performance. That said though, it's his own fault and he should not be complaining about it.

I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.

As far as I'm aware Fury said he still has three fights on his contract with ESPN, that's after the recent Wilder fight. So that means we will probably get another Wilder rematch, then Anthony Joshua, and then hopefully Dillian Whyte. There's absolutely no point him fighting Chisora who has already been beaten by both Whyte and Fury, so I don't want to see an old Chisora get sparked out once again.

I think the last fight should be with somebody who really deserves the title shot at the time. Maybe Usyk, Kownacki or maybe even Daniel Dubois.

[TopTort777]

Just laughed out loud !

Deontay Wilder has blamed his loss to Tyson Fury on a heavy walk-in suit. This is the lamest excuse I've ever heard. If the suit was so heavy and this 5min walk make you tired - why would you even wear it ? And how could this 5 min walk with 18+ kg suit make a professional athlete tired ? He is a heavyweight, he didn't have to cut weight to fit in and lose strength.

18kg - what is it like? 1 dumbbell? I'm sure Wilder done some lunges with barbell or dumbbell, or walked with them during his camp.

5min walk with 18kg killed his legs. Tell this bs to Andy Ruiz and his 12 rounds vs AJ...

[TravelMug]

^^ LMAO, why did he not complain when he is not comfortable wearing them?

So many excuses from Wilder, it was really a different Wilder that night, maybe it's more of a mental issues that has been plaguing him going on to the fight, but blaming the suit itself?

And with that said, I don't think he will be ready for a rematch.

[mirakal]

I just believe that it's the mentality of the champion not to easily accept defeat so he would want another opportunity to fight Fury.
I think I am loving this match again, if he loses then he should not long for another match as fans would surely not gonna buy the fight and of course no promoter would promote a fight that would not sell.

I did not say Wilder does not deserve another shot at Fury via the contract clause, all I said was that he should not invoke the re-match and instead take a break then come back fresh. He might be better off fighting a few lesser known opponents to build up confidence then arrange a fight for the heavyweight title.

Maybe you are right, Wilder might believe he will not get destroyed - let us see what happens because he still has around 27 days to force the re-match or tell the Fury camp he will not take it.

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

Wilder does not believe he will be destroyed again, he was a champion with only one defeat it's just good to give him another chance.. other reason is the money he will get in the 3rd match, and if Conor challenge Pacman to a fight even knowing he has no chance, why not give a chance to a real fighter like Wilder.

[hilariousetc]

I did not say Wilder does not deserve another shot at Fury via the contract clause, all I said was that he should not invoke the re-match and instead take a break then come back fresh. He might be better off fighting a few lesser known opponents to build up confidence then arrange a fight for the heavyweight title.

Maybe you are right, Wilder might believe he will not get destroyed - let us see what happens because he still has around 27 days to force the re-match or tell the Fury camp he will not take it.

If he doesn't invoke it then he'll likely never get the opportunity to fight Fury ever again. If he didn't have a rematch clause Fury would have no reason to fight him and would move on to bigger and better things. The onyl reason Fury will fight him is because he's contractually obligated to if Wilder requests it.

Apparently Fury can possibly pay Wilder off to avoid the fight: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/11043664/tyson-fury-pay-off-wilder-joshua/

I think that would be silly though. Losing money compared to making boatloads on the rematch then fighting AJ after when they're both available. I'm not sure Wilder would take it either. He's set to make 40% of the purse from a rematch and then of course there's the huge perk of potentially winning the belt back.

Well if the costume really did weigh 20kg like he said then I can see that it really would have had an effect on his performance. That said though, it's his own fault and he should not be complaining about it.

I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.

You seem to contradict yourself here. I don't really believe his excuse but if it did effect him then it would have effected him from the start since he was carrying all that weight in.

Just laughed out loud !

Deontay Wilder has blamed his loss to Tyson Fury on a heavy walk-in suit. This is the lamest excuse I've ever heard. If the suit was so heavy and this 5min walk make you tired - why would you even wear it ? And how could this 5 min walk with 18+ kg suit make a professional athlete tired ? He is a heavyweight, he didn't have to cut weight to fit in and lose strength.

18kg - what is it like? 1 dumbbell? I'm sure Wilder done some lunges with barbell or dumbbell, or walked with them during his camp.

5min walk with 18kg killed his legs. Tell this bs to Andy Ruiz and his 12 rounds vs AJ...

Well it would be 1 18kg dumbell. To be fair, that is pretty heavy, but the weight would have been spread out all over his torso so it would be easier to carry than say a mere dumbell or kettlebell, but it would give you some strain on your legs, but Wilder is a big guy and a professional athlete. He wasn't just wearing it for the 5 minute ringwalk either as he said he had it on for quite a while before the fight (could be bullshit though)

[btc_angela]

^^ LMAO, why did he not complain when he is not comfortable wearing them?

So many excuses from Wilder, it was really a different Wilder that night, maybe it's more of a mental issues that has been plaguing him going on to the fight, but blaming the suit itself?

And with that said, I don't think he will be ready for a rematch.

Maybe he was still in disbelief as to what happened that's why he most likely to found excuses after excuses. Until he settles down and accept that fact that he totally lost the fight fair and square, then he can't get over it. He needs to think hard, it might take a bit longer for him to be a champion again if he won't exercise that rematch clause. But at the same time, will he be ready mentality to face Tyson Fury after the two knock downs?

[Zicadis]

You seem to contradict yourself here. I don't really believe his excuse but if it did effect him then it would have effected him from the start since he was carrying all that weight in.

What I mean is it surely had an affect on his performance overall, but the difference wouldn't be so great as to cause him to get dominated from the first round.

Deontay Wilder is a world class athlete, carrying around 20kg isnt a huge amount of weight especially when distributed over your entire body, even if he was wearing it for 15 mins.

As such, I can see how he would be slightly tired in the first round, but not to the degree that he should get completely smashed by FUry from the first 10 seconds of round 1.

[JollyGood]

40% of the re-match purse still will many millions of USD$ but will it be enough to entice Wilder to trigger the re-match? He has well over 3 weeks to make up his mind, I am sure Wilder and his team will go over everything. Even if he triggers the clause for the re-match he might not be able to fight in the stipluated time-frame because it will take time after the operation on his ear to heal.

On the other side I cannot see Fury ever paying Wilder to not fight him even if it is part of the contract but it puts Wilder in an awkward position. As you said, if he does not fight Fury immediately via the contract clause then he might not get another opportunity to either fight Fury or fight for any of the heavyweight belts again.

I will be keeping a look out with interest for any news about this as soon as it breaks.

If he doesn't invoke it then he'll likely never get the opportunity to fight Fury ever again. If he didn't have a rematch clause Fury would have no reason to fight him and would move on to bigger and better things. The onyl reason Fury will fight him is because he's contractually obligated to if Wilder requests it.

Apparently Fury can possibly pay Wilder off to avoid the fight: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/11043664/tyson-fury-pay-off-wilder-joshua/

I think that would be silly though. Losing money compared to making boatloads on the rematch then fighting AJ after when they're both available. I'm not sure Wilder would take it either. He's set to make 40% of the purse from a rematch and then of course there's the huge perk of potentially winning the belt back.

[TopTort777]

I would never believe that Wilder didn't know how heavy this suit is and found it only when it was time to walk to the ring. Or that he was forced to wear it. The suit suits him so perfectly, so there 100% were some try on. Simply can't understand why he simply can not admit that Fury was and is stronger.

Telling such stupid excuses are simply disrespectful to his fans and other athletes.

[Sadlife]

Honestly didn't expect the way i want it to be i thought it would go just as the first fight but it seems fury didn't take chances in this one. Wilder got totally destroyed in that fight, it seems that the gypsy king figured him all out. Luckily i didn't bet on that.

The upcoming fight between ryan garcia and gervonta davis should be a hype match.

[hilariousetc]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9C2iqUgNJF/

 

You seem to contradict yourself here. I don't really believe his excuse but if it did effect him then it would have effected him from the start since he was carrying all that weight in.

What I mean is it surely had an affect on his performance overall, but the difference wouldn't be so great as to cause him to get dominated from the first round.

Deontay Wilder is a world class athlete, carrying around 20kg isnt a huge amount of weight especially when distributed over your entire body, even if he was wearing it for 15 mins.

As such, I can see how he would be slightly tired in the first round, but not to the degree that he should get completely smashed by FUry from the first 10 seconds of round 1.

Apparently he's self-outed himself on this. On the Joe Rogan podcast a few months ago he stated he trains with a weighted vest that is far heavier than his ringwalk outfit:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/footage-emerges-casts-doubt-deontay-21584457

Deontay Wilder's bewildering excuse for his defeat by Tyson Fury has been exposed - by the fighter's own interview.

The dethroned heavyweight champion claimed the extravagant outfit which he wore for his ring walk weakened his legs as he fell to a seventh-round stoppage defeat.

But footage has re-emerged of the American revealing he trains in a vest which is even heavier than his costume on Saturday night.

In the interview with Joe Rogan in 2018, Wilder says: "We do everything at rapid speed, if we do anything which consists of me moving my feet, it's a sprint.

"I wear a 45lb vest on me as well for all my exercises and everything I do to have the extra weight on."

I guess he could have been lying or exaggerating the first time but my money is on the excuse for his performance being the lie/exaggeration. 

40% of the re-match purse still will many millions of USD$ but will it be enough to entice Wilder to trigger the re-match? He has well over 3 weeks to make up his mind, I am sure Wilder and his team will go over everything. Even if he triggers the clause for the re-match he might not be able to fight in the stipluated time-frame because it will take time after the operation on his ear to heal.

What operation? Source? Apparently he just needed some stitches which will be long-healed by the time a rematch happens which will be in the summer if it goes ahead.

[Zicadis]

Honestly didn't expect the way i want it to be i thought it would go just as the first fight but it seems fury didn't take chances in this one. Wilder got totally destroyed in that fight, it seems that the gypsy king figured him all out. Luckily i didn't bet on that.

The upcoming fight between ryan garcia and gervonta davis should be a hype match.

Was this even announced? I really don't think these two are going to fight eachother any time soon.

Both want to maintain their perfect record so that they can keep climbing the rankings and become mandatory for a title shot.

It would be dangerous to fight this early. If they did though, Garcia would either win on points, or get sparked out. I guess this fight would be like a miniature version of Fury vs Wilder lol.

[JollyGood]

I thought an operation was required. Thank you for correcting me.

40% of the re-match purse still will many millions of USD$ but will it be enough to entice Wilder to trigger the re-match? He has well over 3 weeks to make up his mind, I am sure Wilder and his team will go over everything. Even if he triggers the clause for the re-match he might not be able to fight in the stipluated time-frame because it will take time after the operation on his ear to heal.

What operation? Source? Apparently he just needed some stitches which will be long-healed by the time a rematch happens which will be in the summer if it goes ahead.

[Natalim]

There was no operation required to Wilder, he was just severely injured so he is advise to rest 6 weeks of no sparring in boxing.
He will be back fighting again and we will a trilogy but I'm sure you guys still root for the same guy and for sure Fury would be a heavy favorite here.

I thought an operation was required. Thank you for correcting me.

40% of the re-match purse still will many millions of USD$ but will it be enough to entice Wilder to trigger the re-match? He has well over 3 weeks to make up his mind, I am sure Wilder and his team will go over everything. Even if he triggers the clause for the re-match he might not be able to fight in the stipluated time-frame because it will take time after the operation on his ear to heal.

What operation? Source? Apparently he just needed some stitches which will be long-healed by the time a rematch happens which will be in the summer if it goes ahead.

[bbc.reporter]

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

What personal issues? Wilder was at the top of his game and held the belt, so he's not going to vacate it or have a few warm up fights with nobodies. Fighting a few bums is pointless when you can fight the best of the rest and make the big bucks doing so. I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

Well that's his excuse. Not sure I buy it, but if true then he doesn't have anyone else to blame. These costumes they come out in are getting a bit silly, especially if they're effecting their game.

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

Why don't you track down Tyson Fury and ask him to punch you in the face and head repeatedly and see how your legs are after it. Or maybe it will be something in your water when you struggle to stand? 

Hehehehe. That would be funny, yes. It was the skeptical me that was thinking about it. However, I am very happy he won because he was my bet.

Watch the fight again and witness the strangeness of Deontay Wilder's unsteadiness after the 1st round.

[NavI_027]

I can't get over with Wilder's loss. Now we realized how overhyped he was (I admit that I also predict that Wilder can pull this off lol). *sigh Fury deserve it, it was a clean win so there's nothing to talk about it. Even how hard Wilder make excuses, it will never sell to the fans because he was obviously wasted.

Check this meme LMFAO!


The tables have turned, He is no longer the baddest man on the planet .

[mich]

Welp not as many subscription buys as many predicted

Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury estimated at 800K to 850K PPV buys

Wilder-Fury 2 PPV totals below Arum’s 2 million buy projection

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-estimated-at-800k-to-850k-ppv-buys-sources/

[Kasabus]

Welp not as many subscription buys as many predicted

Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury estimated at 800K to 850K PPV buys

Wilder-Fury 2 PPV totals below Arum’s 2 million buy projection

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-estimated-at-800k-to-850k-ppv-buys-sources/

The estimate of Arum was 2 million PPV buys, he overestimated it, lol.

per https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-2-ppv-price-cost/yrcn6qcqctb91ea24k4mm25jv

The PPV price is  $79.99 so if we go to the maximum estimated of 850K, that's almost $68 million,.. that's still a lot of money.
Well, if there is a trilogy, I think the PPV buys would be lower than the recent one.

[TopTort777]

Check this meme LMFAO!

If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.

Or they both can take lessons from Akihiro Gono ufc 94 walk out 



Or:


Boxing walk out's are so boring nowadays. Wish old dream/pride walk out's get back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHxaNj3UaM

[Kemarit]

Welp not as many subscription buys as many predicted

Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury estimated at 800K to 850K PPV buys

Wilder-Fury 2 PPV totals below Arum’s 2 million buy projection

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-estimated-at-800k-to-850k-ppv-buys-sources/

Arum usually made exorbitant predictions as far as PPV goes, of course he is going to do it because he is the promoter of Tyson Fury. As far as the ear goes, it was just a cut, that's why the ring physician allowed the fight to continue. I was also the impression that he has rapture his ear drum or something that's why his balance is not there.

@NavI_027 - I wouldn't call Wilder over-hype though, not just his night and he face the better man that night. He held the belt for many years, if he is over-hype, he should have lost it and his name wouldn't be in the discussions for the best heavyweight of today.

[JollyGood]

 

What excuse would he have next time?

He will not be able use the "my costume weight 40 pounds so I was tired before the fight started" excuse again...

If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.

[South Park]

I can't get over with Wilder's loss. Now we realized how overhyped he was (I admit that I also predict that Wilder can pull this off lol). *sigh Fury deserve it, it was a clean win so there's nothing to talk about it. Even how hard Wilder make excuses, it will never sell to the fans because he was obviously wasted.

snip

The tables have turned, He is no longer the baddest man on the planet .

There was obviously some level of hype surrounding Wilder but that was to be expected since before that fight he was undefeated and the way he defeated his opponents was really impressive with all of those knockouts, to me this was simply about Fury not only being the best boxer but also about being smarter than Wilder, Fury realized that if he gave space to Wilder he could unleash that brutal right hand on him, so instead of playing it safe he went for Wilder, this not only surprised Wilder but put him in a position he was not expecting and without the required space and the additional weight he was carrying unleashing the full potential of his right hand became something impossible for him.

[Welsh]

Well if the costume really did weigh 20kg like he said then I can see that it really would have had an effect on his performance. That said though, it's his own fault and he should not be complaining about it.

I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.

As far as I'm aware Fury said he still has three fights on his contract with ESPN, that's after the recent Wilder fight. So that means we will probably get another Wilder rematch, then Anthony Joshua, and then hopefully Dillian Whyte. There's absolutely no point him fighting Chisora who has already been beaten by both Whyte and Fury, so I don't want to see an old Chisora get sparked out once again.

I think the last fight should be with somebody who really deserves the title shot at the time. Maybe Usyk, Kownacki or maybe even Daniel Dubois.

Although, I'd agree that there are better fights for the fans than Chisora. Fury, and Chisora are personal friends, and Fury has always hinted giving him another fight whether that was sarcastic was hard to be determined considering the context that it was said. I'm not sure about you, but having a trilogy almost 3 fights in a row just takes everything out of the last two fights. Usually, trilogy fights are over a period of time, but we'll be having 3 fights within 4 fights for each fighter which in my opinion is too soon. Personally, I believe the better option would be to have a break, and allow Fury vs Joshua. Then whoever wins that can vs Wilder again. I'll be routing for Fury, but lets just say that Joshua wins it. It would still be worthwhile for Wilder to fight Fury after Joshua just because he still has something to prove.

[7788bitcoin]

Watch the fight again and witness the strangeness of Deontay Wilder's unsteadiness after the 1st round.

From the opening bell Tyson Fury was aggressive and taking the fight to Wilder and he was rocked badly and eating punches from the start and in the third round he was floored with a great over hand right and then he was wobbly throughout the fight and he was floored again with a body shot and he was completely humiliated and the biggest humiliation is the excuse he comes up for the defeat rather than giving props to Fury for been the better fighter.

[NavI_027]

@NavI_027 - I wouldn't call Wilder over-hype though, not just his night and he face the better man that night. He held the belt for many years, if he is over-hype, he should have lost it and his name wouldn't be in the discussions for the best heavyweight of today.

Hmm, fair enough. So much better if we say he is overrated ?

There was obviously some level of hype surrounding Wilder but that was to be expected since before that fight he was undefeated and the way he defeated his opponents was really impressive with all of those knockouts, to me this was simply about Fury not only being the best boxer but also about being smarter than Wilder

Indeed, plus his strong determination to beat Wilder down. We can see it on his eyes and statements . We knew he came from a loss due to the same opponent beforea and for sure he don't want things repeat again, that's the best fuel he can use to for reaching his goal and fortunately he made it. How entertaining to watch a fight where the underdog wins.

[JollyGood]

It seems like a good take on things, I agree with you.

- Wilder should not invoke the clause for a re-match, instead should take time out and recuperate

- Fury and Joshua should fight to be undisputed heavyweight champion (I also go for Fury to win)

- Wilder should have at least two warm-up fights or become number one contender before he should fight the then heavyweight champion of the world

Fury is 29 now, he is absolutely loaded as far as cash is concerned. Just one more fight would be enough to fill the coffers further and if he beats Joshua then he could easily retire but there are problems. He signed a 5 fight deal with BT Sport/ESPN for around £80 million. Joshua has a fight deal with DAZN/Sky Sports and Wilder has a Showtime contract.

Let us see what happens with Wilder and his team, will they invoke the re-match clause or not?

Although, I'd agree that there are better fights for the fans than Chisora. Fury, and Chisora are personal friends, and Fury has always hinted giving him another fight whether that was sarcastic was hard to be determined considering the context that it was said. I'm not sure about you, but having a trilogy almost 3 fights in a row just takes everything out of the last two fights. Usually, trilogy fights are over a period of time, but we'll be having 3 fights within 4 fights for each fighter which in my opinion is too soon. Personally, I believe the better option would be to have a break, and allow Fury vs Joshua. Then whoever wins that can vs Wilder again. I'll be routing for Fury, but lets just say that Joshua wins it. It would still be worthwhile for Wilder to fight Fury after Joshua just because he still has something to prove.

[bbc.reporter]

What excuse would he have next time?

He will not be able use the "my costume weight 40 pounds so I was tired before the fight started" excuse again...

If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.

I reckon that there might be a serious head injury that Wilder does not want everyone to know. His ear was bleeding from the hole after a punch on the 1st round and he was never standing steadily after that.

The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.

In any case, agreed! Wilder should not invoke the rematch clause. His boxing career will be destroyed if he loses versus Gypsy King again.

[smyslov]

Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.

[Jating]

What excuse would he have next time?

He will not be able use the "my costume weight 40 pounds so I was tired before the fight started" excuse again...

If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.

I reckon that there might be a serious head injury that Wilder does not want everyone to know. His ear was bleeding from the hole after a punch on the 1st round and he was never standing steadily after that.

The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.

In any case, agreed! Wilder should not invoke the rematch clause. His boxing career will be destroyed if he loses versus Gypsy King again.

Wilder himself says that the injury he suffered from his ear didn't affect him. And it was a cut, the blood comes from the cut and not some ear drum.

That small cut required seven stitches when Wilder went to a Las Vegas hospital following his first professional defeat. Doctors told him, though, that he didn’t sustain eardrum damage, nor did he suffer a concussion.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-bleeding-from-ear-affect-me-all-no-eardrum-damage--147112

However, what makes it somewhat not 'classy' for him is blaming the custome he wore for his performance.

Deontay Wilder says he was adversely affected by the 40-plus-pound costume he wore into the ring Saturday night, Tyson Fury’s fouls and referee Kenny Bayless’ unwillingness to enforce the rules. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

[Finestream]

Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.

He does not accept defeat, he is not a real champion.
I don't think he will be champion again with that kind of attitude, if he likes to improve and be back on the top, he needs to accept his mistake and correct it, that's the real attitude he needs for him to evaluate the game and to see what he did wrong. Never blame the costume as its his will to wear it.

[suzanne5223]

Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.

He does not accept defeat, he is not a real champion.
I don't think he will be champion again with that kind of attitude, if he likes to improve and be back on the top, he needs to accept his mistake and correct it, that's the real attitude he needs for him to evaluate the game and to see what he did wrong. Never blame the costume as its his will to wear it.

You guys simply said that because you dont understand but I'm still surprised where Smyslov read what he said about Wilder because i never heard or read anything like that and the last time i checked this was what Wilder said.

Deontay Wilder: “He didn’t hurt me at all, but the simple fact is my uniform was way too heavy for me. I didn’t have no legs from the beginning of the fight… I didn’t think it was going to be that heavy. It weighed 40lbs with the helmet and all the batteries.
Wilder also confirmed that he will trigger the rematch clause for a trilogy fight with Tyson Fury

[Welsh]

Well if the costume really did weigh 20kg like he said then I can see that it really would have had an effect on his performance. That said though, it's his own fault and he should not be complaining about it.

I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.

As far as I'm aware Fury said he still has three fights on his contract with ESPN, that's after the recent Wilder fight. So that means we will probably get another Wilder rematch, then Anthony Joshua, and then hopefully Dillian Whyte. There's absolutely no point him fighting Chisora who has already been beaten by both Whyte and Fury, so I don't want to see an old Chisora get sparked out once again.

I think the last fight should be with somebody who really deserves the title shot at the time. Maybe Usyk, Kownacki or maybe even Daniel Dubois.

Missed some of your points in my last reply so here it goes;

Potentially could have an effect. However, he's an elite athlete, has discussed on Joe Rogan's podcast that he routinely uses a weighted jacket close to 40lbs, and the fact that a non athlete like myself uses a 50lbs weighted jacket to supplement my work outs, and feel absolutely amazing when I take it off I'd like to think a professional athlete would be able to last 2 rounds without showing signs of fatigue like he did. Well, to be honest from my observations he didn't show fatigue until getting hit in the head several times. Before, the first knock down he actually tagged Fury with some big hits as Fury was leaving himself open due to his aggressive nature of that fight.

Also, the promoters will not risk Dubois. Dubois is an up and coming fighter who will be protected just like Anthony Joshua, and most other big names are protected at first. Think Wilder, and how he hasn't really fought anyone noteworthy except for Ortiz, and Fury. Dubois will have a few years of "tune up" fights before setting foot in the ring with anyone big. Fury would be a big risk at this early stage of his career, and considering Fury is considered to be in his prime I can't see that being good for Dubois who still needs a little work.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.

It is obvious that the big ego of Wilder was dented by this defeat as he cannot accept the loss and he is trying to find reasons for having his first loss in his career and i am not expecting any major changes in the fight game of Wilder as he never tried to change for over ten years and he was successful with his one dimensional approach and intimidation and Fury just fought the perfect game plan.

[DarkDays]

Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.

Lmao, what did he say about the referee?

Honestly, if his corner stopped the fight because he thought he busted his ear drum, then I can understand why Wilder would be angry... He didn't have a busted eardrum.

But they should have been able to communicate that during the breaks with a simple back and forth...Trainer: "Hey, your eardrum is bleeding, do you feel like your equilibrium is rekt?", Wilder: "No, it's just a cut".

I did see one of his corner saying your eardrum is burst etc after the fight, so that might be actually why they called off the fight. His corner was listening to the commentators who kept saying his eardrum was burst and equilbrium was knocked off.

Realistically that would make anybody mad and it would deserve firing the trainer for listening to the crowd and random commentators rather than his own fighter.

[JollyGood]

I reckon that there might be a serious head injury that Wilder does not want everyone to know. His ear was bleeding from the hole after a punch on the 1st round and he was never standing steadily after that.

The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.

He definitely got hurt when Fury hit him with clean shots to the side of the head very early on. After that, Wilder was simply hanging on in there while Fury was wearing him out. Wilder seemed to have serious balance issues but it could simply be down to concussion rather than fluid imbalance issues because he was hit by a 6ft 9in fighter.

In any case, agreed! Wilder should not invoke the rematch clause. His boxing career will be destroyed if he loses versus Gypsy King again.

Agreed but his girlfriend mentioned on social media there will be a trilogy. Why would he risk serious damage to his health as well as his ego and of course danger of another battering?

[bbc.reporter]

@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.

[Darker45]

Realistically that would make anybody mad and it would deserve firing the trainer for listening to the crowd and random commentators rather than his own fighter.

If that was the doctor saying the blood is coming from a burst eardrum, that would have been the best decision throwing in the towel. But it seems the fear of Breland that his fighter is going to suffer more in the hands of Fury got the better of him and decided to just keep his fighter from more harm. But, actually, it might still be a good decision overall. However, it is expected that it will be unpopular and that his fighter, getting angry and upset, first, for losing, and second, for having his fight abruptly ended, would want at least a head to roll. Breland is the perfect guy for it, especially now that Wilder is pointing fingers at anything.

@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.

I agree. He better fight against Whyte (who laughed really hard at what he's gone through against Fury) first as a tune-up, prove that he's still The Bronze Bomber, and get back to Fury right after.

[mich]

@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.

This sounds like a nice idea to me but BRONZE BOMBER has his own plans

Deontay Wilder confirms intention to regain title in Tyson Fury trilogy fight

The Bronze Bomber lost his WBC heavyweight title to Fury in a comprehensive defeat in Las Vegas last weekend, but is set to exercise a clause for a third fight between the pair
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-confirms-intention-regain-21602131

[JollyGood]

Wilder should hope to get one more shot at the title so why fight Fury and then if he wins have to fight Joshua? He would prefer to fight the winner of the Fury-Joshua fight instead though there could be his desire to repair his damaged pride which might make the Fury re-match a possibility.

@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.

[TopTort777]

Deontay Wilder confirms intention to regain title in Tyson Fury trilogy fight

Before doing that he should consider changing his fight style and coaches. Otherwise this third fight would repeat fight nr. 2

I’ve read that he had fired his coach, that throw out the blanket. It was also mentioned, that this guy was the most experienced among Wilder coaches. What do you think, was it wise?

[mirakal]

Someone has shared this through facebook and I was interested about it, so I think of sharing it here.

BOXING champion Wilder Challenged JESUS-CHRIST and regrets it... ( Watch )

What do you think about this video, I only know few of the boxers who publicly showed their belief in God, one example is Manny Pacman which is a pastor and Fury who thank God after the fight.

[South Park]

I would never believe that Wilder didn't know how heavy this suit is and found it only when it was time to walk to the ring. Or that he was forced to wear it. The suit suits him so perfectly, so there 100% were some try on. Simply can't understand why he simply can not admit that Fury was and is stronger.

Telling such stupid excuses are simply disrespectful to his fans and other athletes.

That much is obvious which is why the excuse does not make sense, if the fight had been close and Wilder was out of stamina in the last rounds of the match he may have a point since the stamina lost during the time he wore that costume could have made a difference, but when you watch the way he was dominated you know the costume had no influence into the fight, to me he is just protecting his ego and it is still struggling to admit not only that he lost but how he lost.

[robelneo]

We all know what happens to this match I think the thread should be close and move on the second episode which is their third meeting
we have a new thread about their up and coming fight but it's still a long way to go because the match is going to happen in June, but let's see what's going to happen since Wilder was offered a huge sum of money just to step aside so the Wilder Fury match will push through

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