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February 24, 2020, 12:49:34 PM
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What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

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February 24, 2020, 01:11:12 PM
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Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming,
A link to this would be nice. I can't find recent articles.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua.
I was looking for an article about Wilder's team invoking a third match as what fortunecrypto said but I found this one instead https://www.worldfightnews.com/joshua-wants-wilder-before-the-third-wilder-fury-fight/ Joshua was expecting Wilder to win the second fight but he also said he doesn't mind having a unification bout with Fury. It's nice to see that none of them is trying to hide.
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February 24, 2020, 01:19:09 PM
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What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

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February 24, 2020, 01:30:27 PM
Last edit: February 25, 2020, 02:48:45 AM by robelneo
 #284

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

I really think that this fight should happen, because people will continue to question Joshua's reputation because he has not fought something as big as Fury and someone as strong as Wilder, no question Fury is the lineal champion for winning all the belts on all existing boxing organization, but a third rematch was invoked by Wilder's camp, so we'll see what's coming up in the heavyweight division.


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February 24, 2020, 01:49:00 PM
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What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

That's likely to happen as AJ was beaten by Ruiz which is short and fat, so he will surely struggle when he will face Fury, but the question is, will he fight Fury soon? the likelihood of it happening is might be 50/50... we are aware that AJ challenge Wilder to fight him in the UK, but that was before Wilder got his first lose, https://www.sportsjoe.ie/boxing/deontay-wilder-accepts-anthony-joshua-challenge-fight-uk-155754

so if AJ want a fight, I think he should challenge the new champ.

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February 24, 2020, 02:43:23 PM
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What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

I dunno, I think if Fury is 100% motivated & dedicated to training then he might be favourite. I think Fury is a more skilful boxer but AJ packs the bigger punch & can KO anybody.

If you pushed me to pick a winner I’d say Fury on points but only if he sticks to his new found disciplined lifestyle. If he falls off the wagon & gets fat between fights then AJ by KO.

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February 24, 2020, 05:09:52 PM
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What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters  Grin

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!


What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

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February 24, 2020, 05:13:13 PM
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What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters  Grin

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!


What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.
That's possible but if the fight will push through I'm definite that Fury can easily take Joshua but there is a rematch clause and Wilder wants a rematch and so we are going to see a third match I don't know how they are going to hype the third fight when one fighter totally dominated the other fighter, it will be hard to sell the next fight.

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I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

I think you can argue this fight wasn't won in the ideal way with the towel being thrown in. I would think the third fight would be far bigger in terms of viewership/Pay-per view.

Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming,
A link to this would be nice. I can't find recent articles.

There's nothing yet just speculation, but I would be very surprised if Wilder didn't want the rematch. Makes a lot of sense for him.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua.
I was looking for an article about Wilder's team invoking a third match as what fortunecrypto said but I found this one instead https://www.worldfightnews.com/joshua-wants-wilder-before-the-third-wilder-fury-fight/ Joshua was expecting Wilder to win the second fight but he also said he doesn't mind having a unification bout with Fury. It's nice to see that none of them is trying to hide.

The AJ/Fury fight makes sense and would probably be the biggest PPV ever, at least in England. They could also sell out the biggest venue available, but there's two huge potential issues for it to be the next fight. One is the Wilder rematch clause that would have to happen this year (probably before summer) and AJ is probably going to fight Pulev in June and that's all but a done deal. The only way that won't happen is if Wilder doesn't invoke the rematch clause and then they will go ahead with trying to get the Fury/AJ done.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?


Fury will be sure the favourite now, but I still think they fairly equal fighters. Wilder obviously got shook and that threw him off, and that's why I'd like to see the third fight as anything can happen.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

I dunno, I think if Fury is 100% motivated & dedicated to training then he might be favourite. I think Fury is a more skilful boxer but AJ packs the bigger punch & can KO anybody.

If you pushed me to pick a winner I’d say Fury on points but only if he sticks to his new found disciplined lifestyle. If he falls off the wagon & gets fat between fights then AJ by KO.

I think they're also quite equal fighters, but I think Fury might edge it as long as he stays in shape. I really can't see Fury going nuts again though. He'd be a fool if he did. He's on top of the world right now and whatever his next fights are they're going to make him more money than he can ever spend.

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February 24, 2020, 07:24:23 PM
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Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

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February 24, 2020, 07:40:50 PM
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I think Wilder will not take up the rematch clause because he needs time to recover from the physical beating and the mental stress, it should pave the way for the Fury-Joshua fight to get the go-ahead



What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters  Grin

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!
That's possible but if the fight will push through I'm definite that Fury can easily take Joshua but there is a rematch clause and Wilder wants a rematch and so we are going to see a third match I don't know how they are going to hype the third fight when one fighter totally dominated the other fighter, it will be hard to sell the next fight.

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February 24, 2020, 07:42:54 PM
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I think you can argue this fight wasn't won in the ideal way with the towel being thrown in. I would think the third fight would be far bigger in terms of viewership/Pay-per view.

The alternative would possibly have been him finishing the fight as a twitching vegetable. It was a pretty emphatic victory. The first fight raised questions. This one answered them for good.

I'm sure a third fight would do fine. It wouldn't have anywhere near the same urgency and drama.
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February 24, 2020, 07:51:03 PM
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What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.
That is the next fight to make Joshua and Fury could break many records and it will be the biggest fight in terms of revenue rather than a trilogy with Wilder as Fury defeated Wilder in the first fight as he won most of the rounds even though the judges called it a draw we all knew what was the real result and Fury came out and performed exactly what he said he is going to do in the fight before the fight and everyone laughed at him and he executed exactly what he said and there is nothing else to prove with a fight against Wilder and i am sure the Wilder team will advice him not to revoke the rematch clause within 30 days.
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February 24, 2020, 08:30:16 PM
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No doubt about it, Fury is fast for a big man (6ft 9in) and his mobility over his opponent will be one of the key reasons he will beat Joshua.

If Joshua has a chance of winning he should forget about trying to box it to 12 rounds and win on points, the fight will be over long before that and if it did make it to 12 rounds he would not win on points. The only chance he has to win against Fury is to hope he can knock him out early on but the odds heavily favour Fury to win.


 
Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

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February 24, 2020, 08:36:53 PM
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What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

Right, make sense for all Brits unification fight, that is if Wilder doesn't exercise his rematch clause.

This could be huge as well but as seeing Fury winning this easily though, he is too technical and him proving that he is no pillow fisted fighter. AJ chin which is weak compare to him and Wilder, so if Fury touches that chin AJ will have nightmares again, flashback of Any Ruiz, Lol.

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February 24, 2020, 08:56:49 PM
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I also like AJ vs Fury, but it is still up to the boxing promoters and managers to give their fighters the most money. Wilder could fight Whyte next or Andy Ruiz if he doesn't want to sign and fight Fury again.
Please can we stop including Ruiz already, this guy just got lucky once and was already exposed.

I'm talking about Wilder's perspective him. Majority doesn't want a rematch with Fury, so what is the best option for Wilder? His stock obviously goes down because of the lost and he needs a good win to get back into the contention again. So why is Ruiz a a good option? If he can beat Ruiz and knock him out then they can say that he beat him more convincingly than Joshua did, which just avoided Ruiz through the whole 12 rounds. So Ruiz will be a good leverage for him.

If they like to bring big money, they should bring in a Fury vs AJ fight, at least both of them came from a real big win, or maybe AJ vs Wilder, I would still bet on the Wilder to demolished AJ though.

Of course the best option for Fury is to really fight Joshua next and unify the belt, big and easy payday for him. I don't think that Joshua will call Wilder though.

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February 24, 2020, 09:08:00 PM
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Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

You are talking as if Deontay Wilder ended his career with that match but the truth is careers as good as Wilder don't end like that. Some fighters in the industry like McGregor, Pacquiao, Golovkin didn't let their blemish record define their career and look they still manage to win some games. Yeah a rematch might not be soon to come since that is how hype fight works, promoters will tend to dodge everything for a long time so that they can heat things up for the fans. Fury has the privilege to choose his next match while Wilder will go in a different route to reclaim in order throne and that's how it works for both of them.
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February 24, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
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Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.
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February 24, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
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The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.


Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

You are talking as if Deontay Wilder ended his career with that match but the truth is careers as good as Wilder don't end like that. Some fighters in the industry like McGregor, Pacquiao, Golovkin didn't let their blemish record define their career and look they still manage to win some games. Yeah a rematch might not be soon to come since that is how hype fight works, promoters will tend to dodge everything for a long time so that they can heat things up for the fans. Fury has the privilege to choose his next match while Wilder will go in a different route to reclaim in order throne and that's how it works for both of them.

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February 24, 2020, 10:14:19 PM
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They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.
What do you mean by weak, not having a body building kind of body Tongue, i bet Tyson Fury will win against Joshua simply because of his boxing skills and the confidence of an undefeated fighter and he always rises to the occasion.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.
There is no doubt about his chin and he took the hardest punch of Wilder where no one was able to do and went into aggression mode after that.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.
There is no point in having a fight between Ruiz and Fury but Joshua is the next big fight for Fury and once he unifies all the belt i am sure he will retire from boxing as he achieved everything he started and will reach a legend status that no one achieved.
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