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February 23, 2020, 07:08:05 AM
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At round 7 Wilder journey as world champion has been over and with first time to lost by him it proven Fury much better than him and every rounds was dominate makes referee stopped the fight however seems Fury already know the weakness of Wilder and starting round 1 he was take the initiative to attack and congratulations to Fury fans and those who bets for him and for me it was very entertaining as the best fight in this year so far

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February 23, 2020, 08:07:47 AM
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Good win by Fury, now he has proven that he won that first fight as it's still the same result,. this fight he dominated Wilder and it looks like Wilder forget how to punch because Fury did really have a great job on putting the pressure on Wilder,.. I like him moving forward and he caught Wilder with his good combination.

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.
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February 23, 2020, 08:12:12 AM
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February 23, 2020, 08:31:54 AM
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Here are my thoughts on the rematch.

Tyson Fury really play with his strengths here, we all know that he went heavy here, adding weight as compare to their first fight. He utilised it perfectly, when they hug each again, putting all his weight on Wilder. That is too taxing for Wilder to take, we even see him choking Wilder many times that Kenny Bayless has to give warning and eventually take a 1 point deduction.

Fury didn't used his jabs in the first two rounds, I was surprised by it, however, at the start of the third round he suddenly jab - one, two, then power punches.

Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

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February 23, 2020, 08:43:51 AM
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now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.
Exactly because Fury was a real good boxer, he was more aggressive in this fight and he really did the talk in the ring when he said that he will knock down fury, if didn't happen in Round 2 but in round 3 we saw that knock down.. what's next for Wilder? will he still demand for another fight since he was the champ?

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February 23, 2020, 08:58:38 AM
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WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING Cheesy.

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

@virasog there’s indeed going to be a rematch as their agreement has a clause where the looser can trigger a rematch option, and I believe that Wilder will definitely trigger it but it’s difficult to say when he’ll trigger it.

Here are my thoughts on the rematch.

Tyson Fury really play with his strengths here, we all know that he went heavy here, adding weight as compare to their first fight. He utilised it perfectly, when they hug each again, putting all his weight on Wilder. That is too taxing for Wilder to take, we even see him choking Wilder many times that Kenny Bayless has to give warning and eventually take a 1 point deduction.

Fury didn't used his jabs in the first two rounds, I was surprised by it, however, at the start of the third round he suddenly jab - one, two, then power punches.

Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

Congrats to the Gypsy King, it was really a cinderella story for him.

@Baofeng Fury did what he had said prior to this match that he’ll attack Wilder aggressively, and honestly even I’m surprised at the aggression shown by him. Also I know that it’s too early to speculate about what was wrong with Wilder, but if I had to take a wild guess then I would say that it looked like he was carrying an injury which in turn effected his performance.

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February 23, 2020, 09:01:20 AM
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Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

I just watched the replay and Wilder looks to be out of shape since the first round. Fury was just rolling through Wilder's right hand punches like they were nothing. His legs were simply not there and it could be due to a bad weight cut. I believe his corner knows that and threw the towel.  



With how this fight ended, there is no need for a Fury-Wilder 3. I would like to see Fury vs. Joshua next.
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Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more Smiley
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

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February 23, 2020, 09:39:41 AM
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Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more Smiley
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

Wilder was disappointed as well, he can still fight but his corner man throw that towel already.
Though Wilder looks unstable but he still has the heart of a champion, his corner should have allowed him to still fight as this guy is a one punch KO, who knows he can hit Fury with in the later round and win the fight by KO.

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February 23, 2020, 10:14:20 AM
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Well done Tyson Fury!
I never had any doubt that he will win this fight, but I did not expect to see him dominate and win with ko

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Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more Smiley
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

If you would listen to Teddy Atlas, a renowned boxing trainer, he says that Wilder is no boxer and the only thing that always bail him out is his one punch KO, that's why they called him the "Eraser". But this time, it is totally different, he couldn't off-set Fury because (1) Tyson is much heavier than him (2) Tyson can take his punch because of the added weight (3) Wilder got knock down, first time in his career and he didn't know how to react.

So yeah, bring Joshua vs Fury next, all British Heavyweight match.

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February 23, 2020, 11:09:53 AM
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Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more Smiley
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

Wilder was disappointed as well, he can still fight but his corner man throw that towel already.
Though Wilder looks unstable but he still has the heart of a champion, his corner should have allowed him to still fight as this guy is a one punch KO, who knows he can hit Fury with in the later round and win the fight by KO.

I don't think it's going to happen, Wilder is really off and badly bleeding and confused, he really don't know how to react because for the first time in his career he is totally dominated and outclassed, he will deny that he is hurt but everyone there watching including the ref, knew it's only a matter of time, the stoppage was correct.

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Somehow I'm a little bit disappointed with the fight, I wanted to see more Smiley
On the weight-in and face-off they seems to be quite equal size, but in the ring Fury was much bigger. I have a feeling, that (again) Wilder was aiming to win by 1 right straight punch. He bet too much on this strategy. That was his mistake. On their first fight, Fury survived 2 knockdown punches, that was not kinda smart to believe in same strategy.

Overall result - as expected, Fury is the kind.

Wilder was disappointed as well, he can still fight but his corner man throw that towel already.
Though Wilder looks unstable but he still has the heart of a champion, his corner should have allowed him to still fight as this guy is a one punch KO, who knows he can hit Fury with in the later round and win the fight by KO.

I don't think it's going to happen, Wilder is really off and badly bleeding and confused, he really don't know how to react because for the first time in his career he is totally dominated and outclassed, he will deny that he is hurt but everyone there watching including the ref, knew it's only a matter of time, the stoppage was correct.


It certainly is the end of Wilder's reign. No one reigns forever and records are here to be broken. Fury was confident and dominant. Wilder enjoyed a good period of time as a champion and it's time someone would replace him. He's getting older and slower and this was coming. Though he can still grab some trophies before his retirement.


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February 23, 2020, 11:20:09 AM
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Good win by Fury, now he has proven that he won that first fight as it's still the same result,. this fight he dominated Wilder and it looks like Wilder forget how to punch because Fury did really have a great job on putting the pressure on Wilder,.. I like him moving forward and he caught Wilder with his good combination.

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.
Good job for him as he really dominated this fight leaving Wilder with nothing but only to take those punches. He really proved that he got this one and Wilder unable to prevent and keep taking those attacks.

That combinations are well damage Wilder and with how Fury take every advantages makes the fight really entertaining.
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February 23, 2020, 11:28:51 AM
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Good win by Fury, now he has proven that he won that first fight as it's still the same result,. this fight he dominated Wilder and it looks like Wilder forget how to punch because Fury did really have a great job on putting the pressure on Wilder,.. I like him moving forward and he caught Wilder with his good combination.

now we saw a boxers beaten a puncher.
Good job for him as he really dominated this fight leaving Wilder with nothing but only to take those punches. He really proved that he got this one and Wilder unable to prevent and keep taking those attacks.

That combinations are well damage Wilder and with how Fury take every advantages makes the fight really entertaining.

Fury did a very good game plan, if you notice, he is jabbing but his throwing his right punch when he sees an opening, and it's hard for Wilder to block that as it's coming from above and since Fury is taller and bigger, he was able to utilize that technique properly.

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February 23, 2020, 11:33:08 AM
Last edit: February 23, 2020, 11:54:04 AM by Baofeng
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Wilder looks very tired, we don't know if he overtrained in this fight, those swags are not there. Or maybe the first knock down took everything from him. His balance is was really affected.

I just watched the replay and Wilder looks to be out of shape since the first round. Fury was just rolling through Wilder's right hand punches like they were nothing. His legs were simply not there and it could be due to a bad weight cut. I believe his corner knows that and threw the towel.  



With how this fight ended, there is no need for a Fury-Wilder 3. I would like to see Fury vs. Joshua next.

As far as I know there's no weight cutting that happened, on the contrary both of them really gained a lot of weight compare to their first fight.

First fight: Wilder: 212.5 lbs, rematch 231 lbs, gained 18.5 lbs. Fury: 256.5 lbs, rematch, 273 lbs, gained 16.5 lbs. And as I have said, Fury did used his weight advantage to the fullest. And it was the first time that Wilder was getting hit, big time. And it might have backfired on Wilder as well as it slow him down that's why Fury was just rolling out through Wilder's right hand and it might also caused him to fatigued very quick.

@Juggy777 - yes he did, that's why I was really amazed on the performance of Fury in this rematch. He followed everything to the T, including going toe to toe if needed, and that body punch that knock down Wilder the second time. Well, there's news popping around the Wilder has problems with his knees or something that has been bothering him entering the fight.

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February 23, 2020, 12:45:00 PM
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If you would listen to Teddy Atlas, a renowned boxing trainer, he says that Wilder is no boxer and the only thing that always bail him out is his one punch KO

Sadly I dont know whi that Teddy Atlas is Sad

I’ve seen video on youtube (hope to find and hope there will be english subs), where the guy said, that Wilder is originally is a cruiserweight, but gained and turned to heavy with one punch tactics (but still do doubt that punch is strong).

During first fight agains Fury, Wilders weight was about 96kg, while Fury weight 20kg more. During yesterdays fight his weight was 104kg - maybe he doesn't feel comfortable in it. Maybe that is why his behavior was so unusual in the fight. 

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February 23, 2020, 12:49:16 PM
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If you would listen to Teddy Atlas, a renowned boxing trainer, he says that Wilder is no boxer and the only thing that always bail him out is his one punch KO

Sadly I dont know whi that Teddy Atlas is Sad

I’ve seen video on youtube (hope to find and hope there will be english subs), where the guy said, that Wilder is originally is a cruiserweight, but gained and turned to heavy with one punch tactics (but still do doubt that punch is strong).

During first fight agains Fury, Wilders weight was about 96kg, while Fury weight 20kg more. During yesterdays fight his weight was 104kg - maybe he doesn't feel comfortable in it. Maybe that is why his behavior was so unusual in the fight. 

He was surprise by the aggressive style of Fury, from 1st round to the end, it was Fury who are going after him, looking for an opening to throw his combination and unfortunately, Wilder was not prepared for that. Now, let's talk about the first fight, isn't it still Fury who dominated it, but got robbed in the decision, so he did ensure that this fight will not go into distant.

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February 23, 2020, 01:03:02 PM
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Here was what I said before the fight and if the referee had not stopped the fight Fury would have knocked out Wilder cold:

I just cannot see Wilder getting fortunate this time. No dodgy scorecards from suspect score judges are going to save Wilder this time.

Fury will happily box for the full 12 rounds it will be no problem for him but he will take any opportunity to knock out Wilder before that. As for Wilder, he made a mistake taking the first fight because he thought Fury would be rough after his time away from the ring and those few rounds he had under his belt would be of no use against the punching power Wilder has but he miscalculated. Now that Fury is back to his best Wilder has no chance of winning the bout though he might cause a problem or two for Fury but in the end it will be won by Fury who will teach Wilder a boxing lesson by knocking him out cold.

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February 23, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
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Well, there's news popping around the Wilder has problems with his knees or something that has been bothering him entering the fight.

Well, I am not saying this is an excuse but things like this are normally coming out after the fight. Tyson has also his own share of rumored injuries before coming into the fight and even his trainer is saying that their fighter is not coming into the ring in 100% condition. But he adds that, "Every fighter, and not even fighters, in every sport. If you train hard, everybody has some kind of an injury, some kind of nick, and that’s just the truth." And that's indeed the truth; bringing it up post-fight will only make you a crybaby.

Before the fight took place, all I could see was a Wilder in his perfect form. But it quickly changed. Right after the very first bell rang, Tyson was already dictating the fight's tempo. And it went all throughout the fight until the towel was thrown from Wilder's corner. I don't think it was a nice decision. Wilder and his trainer themselves didn't agree with it either. Well, they could have risked a few more rounds to see whether their fighter would be able to turn the tide on their side or would be pummeled by the Gypsy King to more injuries.

Anyhow, a trilogy is always an option but that is not the most exciting I guess. The fight was one-sided right from the get-go. It was a complete domination by Fury. Wilder was not able to compose himself. Well, the other 3 belts are held by another British. AJ vs. Fury must be the highest demand from the boxing fans. Dillian Whyte is calling out Tyson but I guess he has to wait.

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