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February 18, 2020, 12:13:36 PM
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Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin
That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.
The first match end up a controversial draw, so this is a fight to determine who really wins that which I assume it will not again end up a draw.

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.

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February 18, 2020, 12:18:31 PM
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The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.
of course I would love this one, even the loser can fight AJ and might give him a problem as we see him vulnerable losing to a fat guy.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.
Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

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February 18, 2020, 12:28:16 PM
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Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.
The fight depends upon Wilder able to land the knockout punch and that is how he usually wins and not with his technical striking and since they both danced earlier and Fury had the better match and Wilder not able to knock him out this fight will be the same and since Fury is talking about knocking out Wilder which i do not see that coming as he is not a knockout artist and if he really tries and lunges forward he might get caught by Wilder and one punch from Wilder could knock anyone.
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February 18, 2020, 03:29:34 PM
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Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.
The fight depends upon Wilder able to land the knockout punch and that is how he usually wins and not with his technical striking and since they both danced earlier and Fury had the better match and Wilder not able to knock him out this fight will be the same and since Fury is talking about knocking out Wilder which i do not see that coming as he is not a knockout artist and if he really tries and lunges forward he might get caught by Wilder and one punch from Wilder could knock anyone.
The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

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February 18, 2020, 03:54:30 PM
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The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the judges were corrupt. Judges look for different things and score things differently, it's just human bias, that's why there are three judges.

Fury is definitely not going knock Wilder out though lol, he's just saying that to get into his head. Everybody knows Fury would get demolished if it comes to a swingup.

It's going to go to decision again if Wilder doesn't know him out. If Fury can avoid touching the canvas, he wont need to worry about getting robbed on points again.

Though if he somehow gets another draw, then we can start calling corruption.

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February 18, 2020, 08:04:08 PM
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The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the judges were corrupt. Judges look for different things and score things differently, it's just human bias, that's why there are three judges.

Fury is definitely not going knock Wilder out though lol, he's just saying that to get into his head. Everybody knows Fury would get demolished if it comes to a swingup.

It's going to go to decision again if Wilder doesn't know him out. If Fury can avoid touching the canvas, he wont need to worry about getting robbed on points again.

Though if he somehow gets another draw, then we can start calling corruption.
2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

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February 18, 2020, 10:50:03 PM
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It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.
You nailed it right, this is just pure business though that's why the fight is so exciting because they know how to hype us based on what we like, and here's the thing that I believe, any competition that there's a human judges can easily be corrupted even in the beauty contest, so it's no different, more on this since there's a lot of money at stake.

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February 18, 2020, 10:53:23 PM
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Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

I'm not also a big fan of heavyweights either but seeing these three great heavyweights Fury, Wilder, Joshua creating waves in the heavyweights plus new up and coming name in the heavyweights like Dubois, heavyweight is back on it's hey day again, just  like in the days of Mike Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.

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February 19, 2020, 11:10:21 AM
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According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.
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February 19, 2020, 11:31:07 AM
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According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.


Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

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February 19, 2020, 11:47:56 AM
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Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

I'm not also a big fan of heavyweights either but seeing these three great heavyweights Fury, Wilder, Joshua creating waves in the heavyweights plus new up and coming name in the heavyweights like Dubois, heavyweight is back on it's hey day again, just  like in the days of Mike Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.
Yeah right, this heavy weights fighters are bringing back those old days. It's intense to see that many fans are now engaging again watching those
heavy weights contenders.
Wilder, Fury and Joshua are bringing the  the fun and entertainment to this sports.
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February 19, 2020, 12:24:25 PM
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According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.


Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).
I think he is, because of his 29 fights, 20 of them are won by him through knockout, although compared to Wilder of all his 43 fights, 41 of these are won by knockout, what I am saying is that Fury also has a power to knock out an opponent.

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February 19, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
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According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.


Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

Between those two Wilder is the master of trashtalk, why Fury is more like a clown or a joker. Wilder talks more to offend the persons, while Fury usually turn everything in to joke or to make a laugh on his opponent.

Fury "tasted the canvass" two times (9 and 12 round), but according to one of judge cards, he won the fight by 110:114 score. So these two "tastes" I wont count as a real knockdowns.

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February 19, 2020, 01:50:20 PM
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According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.


Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).
I think he is, because of his 29 fights, 20 of them are won by him through knockout, although compared to Wilder of all his 43 fights, 41 of these are won by knockout, what I am saying is that Fury also has a power to knock out an opponent.

for reference on record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder
As you all can see in their latest fight Wilder knock down Fury two times a knock puncher can finish the bout anytime, Wilder has a big chance to knock Fury he has a big percentage and I don't believe he can knock Wilder in two rounds because if he slug it out or go toe to toe he is going to be in big trouble.

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February 19, 2020, 03:42:40 PM
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According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.


Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).
Part of publicity to get viewers attentions, it's tough to accomplish such claims since Wilder also have the same capabilities to fight back and try
to win over Fury. We don't have any idea who's going to win since both fighters wanted to prove something inside the ring.
The fight will be interesting if this two fighters start to throw words against each others.

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February 19, 2020, 05:21:18 PM
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2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

Looks like the odds of there being two draws on a row for this for these fights are only about 1 in 400.

Crazier odds have definitely occurred and still happen all the time. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was another draw and we end up seeing a trilogy fight.

If that goes to another draw people will definitely lose interest. Realistically, I don't think it will happen. Either Wilder will straight up knock Fury out, or it will be a TKO based on the three-knockdown rule. Either that, or Fury will stay slick and not go down for a points win.
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February 19, 2020, 09:32:30 PM
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The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

Well it used to be Wilder and Joshua before, I think there were talks of a fight between the two many years ago but because of money issues that time, it didn't happen. And then Fury entering the scene and making a comeback. So yeah, those three needs to face each other at least.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.

We can't really compare era's, those three really separate themselves from the rest of the heavyweight right now. Unlike before wherein there's a lot of "US" made boxers until the Klitscho brothers come along and dominated the division for many years.

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February 19, 2020, 11:31:56 PM
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2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

Looks like the odds of there being two draws on a row for this for these fights are only about 1 in 400.

Crazier odds have definitely occurred and still happen all the time. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was another draw and we end up seeing a trilogy fight.

If that goes to another draw people will definitely lose interest. Realistically, I don't think it will happen. Either Wilder will straight up knock Fury out, or it will be a TKO based on the three-knockdown rule. Either that, or Fury will stay slick and not go down for a points win.

I'm definitely putting my money on the Wilder knockout for now.

Apparently he broke his hand before the first fight, and still almost knocked Fury out. With a fully functional hand, he should put him to sleep this time.
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February 19, 2020, 11:41:49 PM
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I'm definitely putting my money on the Wilder knockout for now.

Apparently he broke his hand before the first fight, and still almost knocked Fury out. With a fully functional hand, he should put him to sleep this time.

I don't know about this, but it looks like he was not injured during the fight, what I am seeing is that Wilder can't hit Fury because Fury had a decent good movement in boxing that he can doge Wilder's punch easily, actually it was Fury who is scoring pretty well in that fight and I can't believe it ended up a draw.

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February 20, 2020, 02:12:21 AM
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I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder  Grin

Fury was hardly back in shape after a long stint out away from the sport and he won that match on a points decision but was robbed by pathetic scorecard politics. Everybody knows Fury won that fight.

This time with the correct period for training and that first bout under his belt I would say Wilder will be knocked out by rounds 4, 5 or 6 and not by TKO, I would not be surprised to see he on the floor out for the count.

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