Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On

[btc_angela]

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.  

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean weaker? I would agree that Joshua body has more muscles though.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

AJ has been knock down thru his career, so obviously his chin is not that strong as compare to Fury. But yes, his height and reach will be very difficult for AJ plus Fury is more technically sound. So I'm sure that Fury will be the favourite if those two will face in the ring.

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[gentlemand]

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

[ene1980]

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

As usual every fighter will come up with a ton of excuses, he was completely dominated and if the towel was not thrown he would have injured badly and it was a wise decision from his corner as they are there to protect the fighter, he can come up with any excuses and i do not think that Wilder will reinvent is boxing style at this age and with this style he is not going to beat Fury how many times they face.

[bbc.reporter]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

[virasog]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

So you mean to say that the fight was fixed ?

No, it was not. Fury attacked more than Wilder and he was spot on. You can check here where Fury drops Wilder Twice, Finishes Wilder in the 7th . Fury dominated the all 7 rounds and was deserving champ.

[Botnake]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

So you mean to say that the fight was fixed ?

No, it was not. Fury attacked more than Wilder and he was spot on. You can check here where Fury drops Wilder Twice, Finishes Wilder in the 7th . Fury dominated the all 7 rounds and was deserving champ.

I will be convince that the fight is fix if in their first fight it was Wilder who dominated Fury, but it's not what is happening, in fact people think Fury won the first fight but unfortunately the judges scored a draw, this rematch we witnessed is legit, there is no fix in it, it's just that wilder was exposed, that's it.

[hilariousetc]

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

What personal issues? Wilder was at the top of his game and held the belt, so he's not going to vacate it or have a few warm up fights with nobodies. Fighting a few bums is pointless when you can fight the best of the rest and make the big bucks doing so. I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

Well that's his excuse. Not sure I buy it, but if true then he doesn't have anyone else to blame. These costumes they come out in are getting a bit silly, especially if they're effecting their game.

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

Why don't you track down Tyson Fury and ask him to punch you in the face and head repeatedly and see how your legs are after it. Or maybe it will be something in your water when you struggle to stand? 

[TopTort777]

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean weaker? I would agree that Joshua body has more muscles though.

But body muscles is not the primary in boxing. And Andy Ruiz proved that (and number of other boxer with jelly belly). All you need is speed, strong neck and stamina.

Btw, I'm writing this post while eating Ruiz's favourite snickers bar

I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

I'm sure Wilder will be the same. He is not a heavyweight. He is just a cruiserweight that gained pounds and is aimed to "one-punch-KO" strategy. Fury is just more heavy and punches too hard for him.

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I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

I'm sure Wilder will be the same. He is not a heavyweight. He is just a cruiserweight that gained pounds and is aimed to "one-punch-KO" strategy. Fury is just more heavy and punches too hard for him.

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice? Even Fury admits it was a miracle he got up. I think that's why I'm looking forward to a third fight even more because who knows what will happen. If we get the Wilder from the first fight vs Fury from the second anything can happen. Wilder still can throw bombs, but it was obvious something shook him from early on, but there wasn't anything particular deadly from Fury that you can pinpoint as to the reason why. Could have been the ear injury or Wilder's excuses about the weight of his costume, both, or even something else entirely. Wilder's ear injury didn't seem to have been anything serious though and looks like it was just a cut on the outside so I'm not sure how much that would effect him ultimately.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-handed-six-week-21571398

Deontay Wilder handed six-week suspension after Tyson Fury defeat

What is the point in that? Since when do boxers have another fight within six weeks  .

[Viscore]

What is the point in that? Since when do boxers have another fight within six weeks  .

6 weeks from the time his injury was treated, this guy can't spar to prepare on their rematch, we don't know yet when it will happen but hopefully it will still take months so both fighters will be more prepared in the 3rd fight especially Wilder who has been injured in this fight.

A real champion will seek for a revenge and I don't know how he will do that but let's give him a chance, it's correct that he almost KOd Fury in the first fight but most rounds are still won by Fury, Wilder is just lucky that the decision ended up a draw, but it's just my personal opinion.

[gentlemand]

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice?

But that's all he's got. He's would need to start from scratch to put together more skills than simply waiting to unleash one huge punch. Most of his matches were a waiting game until that moment can happen. Since he didn't get started until 20 and is now 34 it would be pretty miraculous for him to be reborn as a fully rounded boxer.

If he retains his main trainer then it's clear he's not very interested in changing or learning and the talk of going out on his shield is daffy. I would've had a corner clear out just like Fury.

I've no doubt he'll be sharper next time. That may not make him any better a boxer.

[7788bitcoin]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

[Finestream]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

Funny, boxers who are too confident does not know how to accept defeat, maybe right now instead of thinking how he can win in the 3rd fight, I think he should make himself busy thinking of a good excuse, really, I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

[robelneo]

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

Yeah, I also saw that video but I think he is trying to condition the mind of the boxing world that he wants to invoke the third match clause and he wants to sell the third fight this early, but I doubt it will sell because the loss is very fresh, the two knock downs and the bloodied Wilder is still fresh in the minds of the boxing world, he should take a break and fight a different fighter like Andy Ruiz so he can recover.

[JollyGood]

Wilder mentioned in the ring after he was defeated that he was carrying baggage in to the ring, he definitely was not the same fighter that fought Fury in the first fight. He alluded to things on his mind that he could not shake off therefore was not fully focused.

Even if there is a third fight, I agree with you in that we will see a different Wilder but I disagree with you when you say he will not make the same mistakes. Once he is on the receiving end of a barrage of punches to the head from Fury I am sure he will not be able to control the narrative and the result will be the same - a victory for Fury.

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

What personal issues? Wilder was at the top of his game and held the belt, so he's not going to vacate it or have a few warm up fights with nobodies. Fighting a few bums is pointless when you can fight the best of the rest and make the big bucks doing so. I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

[mirakal]

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

Wilder does not believe he will be destroyed again, he was a champion with only one defeat it's just good to give him another chance.. other reason is the money he will get in the 3rd match, and if Conor challenge Pacman to a fight even knowing he has no chance, why not give a chance to a real fighter like Wilder.

[7788bitcoin]

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice? Even Fury admits it was a miracle he got up. I think that's why I'm looking forward to a third fight even more because who knows what will happen. If we get the Wilder from the first fight vs Fury from the second anything can happen. Wilder still can throw bombs, but it was obvious something shook him from early on, but there wasn't anything particular deadly from Fury that you can pinpoint as to the reason why.

Fury changed his boxing style completely in the second fight and Wilder could not do anything substantial as he was punched to the pulp throughout the fight and there is no excuse about it and with the big ego Wilder is having he will find an excuse and he might go for the trilogy.
The problem with these is that, if you check back history all these intimidating fighters once they looses then they are never the same.

Yeah, I also saw that video but I think he is trying to condition the mind of the boxing world that he wants to invoke the third match clause and he wants to sell the third fight this early, but I doubt it will sell because the loss is very fresh, the two knock downs and the bloodied Wilder is still fresh in the minds of the boxing world, he should take a break and fight a different fighter like Andy Ruiz so he can recover.

The second fight was really huge and if they are to fight again in a short period then they cannot garner the same level of anticipation because everyone knows what will be the result as there is no doubt in anyone's mind who the superior boxer is even after the first fight and to come out and fight exactly how Fury was telling all throughout the fight week, it is legendary.

[Viscore]

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

They have already plan this that is why there was a "rematch clause", and if Wilder will fight another boxer and he wins easily, what would change, people would still think that he is afraid to fight Fury again and has not use his change to prove himself again that he can beat Fury.

I think after the this 3rd fight and still he lose, he can try to fight another boxer, but what people likes to see now is the Trilogy, they are not even talking about AJ as Fury and Wilder is the big market in heavy weight  boxing now.

[mu_enrico]

I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

Dude... Wilder lost his title, and the closest opportunity to getting it back is via this rematch. No sane boxer would miss this kind of opportunity, no matter how outclassed they were.

If Wilder loses again in the 3rd fight, I don't think he would wear the "champ" belt for quite some time since Fury would move to the next opponent.

[beerlover]

Are we sure we are all talking about the same guy? I mean Deontay Wilder literally went 42 matches without a loss, he had only one draw which was a lot of controversy but even if we consider that a loss, he would be 42 wins and 2 losses right now, he only has one loss which just happened in all of his career. Dude is also just 34 years old in a sport where even 40 years old people are fighting today, maybe not in his weight class but it certainly happens, with the advancement of technology and medicine sports players are playing well into their 40's now and he could very well do that as well.

I am not saying he will be a great boxer from now out, he had his best years behind him, but he could very well challenge for a new fight one day, which he might win or lose I don't know.