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totally off-topic  I don't entirely agree. we know. They no longer need to risk their own cash. They can now risk their customers cash at no risk to themselves, so of course that's what they're going to do.
this is becoming boring, monotonous and repetitive now, can we discuss the actual hardware please? ADD: so all the while you whinge and moan, why not just get out of bitcoin altogether and leave those who want to participate, to it. because... this is becoming boring, monotonous and repetitive now, can we discuss the actual hardware please?
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Shipping out soon:  /Drool I've seen and read enough to believe that Spondoolie-Tech is viable. They also took the time to reply to my posts with kids glove, opting to not delete any, of which goes a long way. Gods speed, S-T. I'm done here for now, and duly hope I don't need to return. ~Bruno Kucinskas |
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April 10, 2014, 10:19:18 PM |
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Gods speed, S-T. ...
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April 10, 2014, 10:23:04 PM |
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WTF $0.35/kWh??!!!
When taking into account equipment and maintenance cost, we're actually loosing money on hosting at those prices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_pricingPUE - 1.3 VAT in Israel (we're taking the hit) - 18% |
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April 10, 2014, 10:30:54 PM |
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April 10, 2014, 10:41:36 PM |
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Its really not too expensive. The 1 month hosting = $0.19/kwh and 3 month plan = $0.15/kwh This includes free maintenance and all the other benefits that come with hosting. I don't know why they wouldn't go with 2 phase immersion cooling for their datacenter. Would save them 300W per KW. |
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April 10, 2014, 10:54:50 PM |
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Its really not too expensive.
The 1 month hosting = $0.19/kwh and 3 month plan = $0.15/kwh
What calculator are you using? $250/mo, 720 hrs/mo, 1.25 kw = $.28/kwh |
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April 10, 2014, 11:02:09 PM |
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Its really not too expensive.
The 1 month hosting = $0.19/kwh and 3 month plan = $0.15/kwh
What calculator are you using? $250/mo, 720 hrs/mo, 1.25 kw = $.28/kwh Thought it was 1400W per miner but you still need to include 30% extra for cooling so each miner would use about 1600W with cooling included. Fixed calculations should be $0.22/kwh for 1 month hosting and $0.17/kwh for 3 month. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:09:38 PM |
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$250/mo, 720 hrs/mo, 1.25 kw = $.28/kwh
Thought it was 1400W per miner but you still need to include 30% extra for cooling so each miner would use about 1600W with cooling included. Nope, 1050W according to their spec page. Fixed calculations should be $0.22/kwh for 1 month hosting and $0.17/kwh for 3 month.
Nope. Even if it were, those numbers are still absurd given the premise the are promoting of moving mining to data centers where electricity is inexpensive. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:11:40 PM |
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You're not losing as much money as the miners are at these prices. IMO. Others can do their own homework. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:13:51 PM |
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Nope, 1050W according to their spec page.
Your'e confusing power supply rating with actual power consumption. Already explained in the thread. ... those numbers are still absurd given the premise the are promoting of moving mining to data centers where electricity is inexpensive.
Re-read the post and the timeline. Electricity is expensive in Israel. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:21:44 PM |
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Nope, 1050W according to their spec page.
Your'e confusing power supply rating with actual power consumption. Already explained in the thread. Thank you for the correction. The spec sheet says 1250 W power consumption, which makes the net cost to the miner 0.26/kWh. Electricity is expensive in Israel.
That's all well and good, but matters not to the miner paying the bill. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:24:39 PM |
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Nope, 1050W according to their spec page.
Your'e confusing power supply rating with actual power consumption. Already explained in the thread. Thank you for the correction. The spec sheet says 1250 W power consumption, which makes the net cost to the miner 0.26/kWh. Electricity is expensive in Israel.
That's all well and good, but matters not to the miner paying the bill. It's an option. We can ship. We can host. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:26:13 PM |
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Thank you for answering my question. Correct me if I am wrong but buried under the discussion of the business model I am sure that I read you already working on your third generation chip? Wow, that is very aggressive for a new company. I am not saying that is bad actually this could be extremely very beneficial much like bitcoin high risk high reward. Can you give any specs for the 3rd gen chips? or is that currently hush hush?
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April 10, 2014, 11:31:13 PM |
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The other thing is like Spondoolies-Tech said: however many they make, they'll probably SELL OUT immediately they get any stock, if they delayed sale and stock-piled. At any production rate there is a rate of fabrication/assembly per day. Suggest you make suggestions. What would you do: run a daily auction for those assembled on the day?
The suggestion was already made for people to reserve a ship date with a small deposit, and then pay the balance before shipment or lose their spot in line. Second suggestion was to give refunds if they miss their ship date. Neither gets the customers funding the business and absorbing the business risks without taking equity though. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:44:16 PM |
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Can you give any specs for the 3rd gen chips?
Leapfrog, designed to liberate and distribute the hash-rate |
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April 10, 2014, 11:57:24 PM |
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We're happy to announce that we've just secured a deal with a high quality data center in Central WA for ultra cheap long term hosting. US bundles customers (50 units or more, SP10 or SP30) are invited to contact us at sales@spondoolies-tech.com for details |
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April 11, 2014, 12:04:06 AM |
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Can you give any specs for the 3rd gen chips?
Leapfrog, designed to liberate and distribute the hash-rate Leapfrog...?!?...is it the NAME...?...like the kid's game...? |
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