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April 26, 2014, 05:47:36 AM
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Anyone know the exact dimensions of the pcbs and the psu?

I'm making an immersion cooling mockup and would like to know how close together these boards can get.

Average asic pcb thickness would be helpful as well. (thickest component, not just the plastic)

I'll compile the data and provide it later. In the meantime, you can look at the information package we've released for SP10: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/perv38mg04938ru/gkIFHA3OpQ
The PCB layout software is Allegro PCB Designer (Ver 16.6)

Still waiting to get SP10 data from Harel our HW director. Got SP30 data for now:

In high level the system include 2 PSUs+ 2 Main boards and Management board.

PSU dimensions
http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/132/trn_ac-dc_ds1200-3_release1_3_1296254727_techref-263453.pdf

look at Page 12

Main board dimensions
440X330X2.2mm
with max height on CS 13mm not final
and max height on PS 7mm not final

Mng board
87X265mm
with max height on CS 15mm not final
and max height on PS 3mm not final

Power is provided to the main board using a bus bar
Signals are connected between the Main and the Mng board using a flat cable.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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April 26, 2014, 06:06:03 AM
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Sample Unit!
The list of reviewers was arranged by SyRenity few weeks before our launch.
ShadesOfMarble was the last one in the list and he got April batch.
The "Sample Unit" are ordinary units picked from the assembly line after testing.
We did the same with all the reviewers. We asked for a fair and true review only. Uncensored.

Oh, okay,.. I see you sent out review / sample units of the SP10. Do you have such a list for SP30? I'd like to be on it. (I'm also trying to help your "official" group buy by sending people to that thread.)

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April 26, 2014, 06:13:14 AM
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@ spondoolies
Is it correct that the featured datacenters will provide at least 208V power for the sp30s?
If so, this would be another advantage for American customers thinking about datacenter deployment, as they wouldn´t have to pay an electrician to install aditional lines and brakers.
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April 26, 2014, 06:34:31 AM
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Is there a senior trusted member that could set up a group buy for sp10's with a may or june delivery. And would that work spond? I am very tempted by on the other group buy I just do not like that long of a wait. Way too much can happen between now and then. I want to at least start mining with it showing I should ROI.
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April 26, 2014, 06:37:55 AM
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Main board dimensions
440X330X2.2mm
with max height on CS 13mm not final
and max height on PS 7mm not final

Mng board
87X265mm
with max height on CS 15mm not final
and max height on PS 3mm not final

Power is provided to the main board using a bus bar
Signals are connected between the Main and the Mng board using a flat cable.

Thanks. Can you clarify on what PS and CS are?

Also is the sp30 going to be a flat board similar to sp10 or is the "mng board" a seperate board for each chip?
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April 26, 2014, 07:12:00 AM
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Sample Unit!
The list of reviewers was arranged by SyRenity few weeks before our launch.
ShadesOfMarble was the last one in the list and he got April batch.
The "Sample Unit" are ordinary units picked from the assembly line after testing.
We did the same with all the reviewers. We asked for a fair and true review only. Uncensored.

Oh, okay,.. I see you sent out review / sample units of the SP10. Do you have such a list for SP30? I'd like to be on it. (I'm also trying to help your "official" group buy by sending people to that thread.)
Sure. Please email info@spondoolies-tech.com

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April 26, 2014, 07:42:00 AM
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Is there a senior trusted member that could set up a group buy for sp10's with a may or june delivery. And would that work spond? I am very tempted by on the other group buy I just do not like that long of a wait. Way too much can happen between now and then. I want to at least start mining with it showing I should ROI.
There will be a groupbuy option for everyone on the sp30 groupbuy, managed by roadstress, when 700 units are reached.

Therefore i hope that some kind of groupbuy will be available after the sp30 groupbuy time has run out.
They seem open to the idea, and reputable forum members with any ideas should email them.
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April 26, 2014, 08:00:58 AM
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Spondoolies:

I've just stumbled upon this http://takemybitcoins.tv

It's a TV show about bitcoins and they are looking for sponsors.

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April 26, 2014, 08:01:50 AM
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Spondoolies:

I've just stumbled upon this http://takemybitcoins.tv

It's a TV show about bitcoins and they are looking for sponsors.

Cough -BFL - Cough - Scam.

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April 26, 2014, 08:13:39 AM
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Spondoolies:

I've just stumbled upon this http://takemybitcoins.tv

It's a TV show about bitcoins and they are looking for sponsors.

Cough -BFL - Cough - Scam.
Yes, i think anything using BFL gear can (and should) safely be ignored.

They can keep their power-gobbling stone aged miners for themselves. These should soon be foreced out of existance by more efficient hardware.
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April 26, 2014, 08:23:38 AM
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Spondoolies:

I've just stumbled upon this http://takemybitcoins.tv

It's a TV show about bitcoins and they are looking for sponsors.

Cough -BFL - Cough - Scam.

I'd like to see bfl replaced by spondoolies-tech as a sponsor!  Grin

The producer of the show is streamin' garage: http://streamingarage.com

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April 26, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
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Spondoolies:

I've just stumbled upon this http://takemybitcoins.tv

It's a TV show about bitcoins and they are looking for sponsors.

Cough -BFL - Cough - Scam.

I'd like to see bfl replaced by spondoolies-tech as a sponsor!  Grin

alternatively, i'd like to see spondoolies remain professional and focussed on what they do best.  Cool

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April 26, 2014, 08:31:05 AM
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Is there a senior trusted member that could set up a group buy for sp10's with a may or june delivery. And would that work spond? I am very tempted by on the other group buy I just do not like that long of a wait. Way too much can happen between now and then. I want to at least start mining with it showing I should ROI.
There will be a groupbuy option for everyone on the sp30 groupbuy, managed by roadstress, when 700 units are reached.

Are they still below 300? With 4 days to go?

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April 26, 2014, 08:34:18 AM
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Main board dimensions
440X330X2.2mm
with max height on CS 13mm not final
and max height on PS 7mm not final

Mng board
87X265mm
with max height on CS 15mm not final
and max height on PS 3mm not final

Power is provided to the main board using a bus bar
Signals are connected between the Main and the Mng board using a flat cable.

Thanks. Can you clarify on what PS and CS are?

Also is the sp30 going to be a flat board similar to sp10 or is the "mng board" a seperate board for each chip?
CS stands for "component side" ( the upper side where the ASICs are installed) and
PS stands for "print side".

SP10 and SP30 shares the same similar design: Two ASICs boards, one management board (FPGA + TI Sitara) as side sandwich.
You can look at dogie picture here to better understand the design:


We're thinking to do another design for RockerBox in which the ASICs + FPGA + TI Sitara will sit in one self contained board.
This will be ideal for immersion cooling, but it will increase the BOM cost.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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April 26, 2014, 09:35:55 AM
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Main board dimensions
440X330X2.2mm
with max height on CS 13mm not final
and max height on PS 7mm not final

Mng board
87X265mm
with max height on CS 15mm not final
and max height on PS 3mm not final

Power is provided to the main board using a bus bar
Signals are connected between the Main and the Mng board using a flat cable.

Thanks. Can you clarify on what PS and CS are?

Also is the sp30 going to be a flat board similar to sp10 or is the "mng board" a seperate board for each chip?
CS stands for "component side" ( the upper side where the ASICs are installed) and
PS stands for "print side".

SP10 and SP30 shares the same similar design: Two ASICs boards, one management board (FPGA + TI Sitara) as side sandwich.
You can look at dogie picture here to better understand the design:


We're thinking to do another design for RockerBox in which the ASICs + FPGA + TI Sitara will sit in one self contained board.
This will be ideal for immersion cooling, but it will increase the BOM cost.

my 2 satoshis would be to keep the controller on a separate board in case an asic board fries.

im just thinking back to the days of the V1 ASICMINER blades where if one part died. you could ask for an rma and not have to worry about shipping on the WHOLE product, just the replacement part

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April 26, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
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my 2 satoshis would be to keep the controller on a separate board in case an asic board fries.

im just thinking back to the days of the V1 ASICMINER blades where if one part died. you could ask for an rma and not have to worry about shipping on the WHOLE product, just the replacement part

If we'll do the combined design, it will be in addition to the SP30 separate design.
In case of immersion cooling tanks, there is advantage to get as tight design as you can.
If one of the board fails, you simply remove it from the tank and replace it entirely.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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April 26, 2014, 10:37:01 AM
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my 2 satoshis would be to keep the controller on a separate board in case an asic board fries.

im just thinking back to the days of the V1 ASICMINER blades where if one part died. you could ask for an rma and not have to worry about shipping on the WHOLE product, just the replacement part

If we'll do the combined design, it will be in addition to the SP30 separate design.
In case of immersion cooling tanks, there is advantage to get as tight design as you can.
If one of the board fails, you simply remove it from the tank and replace it entirely.
Couldn't you design a control board that could power multiple mining boards? So if one failed you still pull it out, but just unplug it from the controller that could be sitting out of the fluid.

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CS stands for "component side" ( the upper side where the ASICs are installed) and
PS stands for "print side".

SP10 and SP30 shares the same similar design: Two ASICs boards, one management board (FPGA + TI Sitara) as side sandwich.
You can look at dogie picture here to better understand the design:


We're thinking to do another design for RockerBox in which the ASICs + FPGA + TI Sitara will sit in one self contained board.
This will be ideal for immersion cooling, but it will increase the BOM cost.

Thanks.

Did some rough calculations and I think it could be viable.

With the boards spaced 20mm apart you could fit 2 boards in a 1u container (1.75" x 24" x 17") so you would need 2-1.5 gallons depending on how much volume the asics displace.

~$200 per 1kw is not bad. Could be better if you can overclock.
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April 26, 2014, 10:42:36 AM
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my 2 satoshis would be to keep the controller on a separate board in case an asic board fries.

im just thinking back to the days of the V1 ASICMINER blades where if one part died. you could ask for an rma and not have to worry about shipping on the WHOLE product, just the replacement part

If we'll do the combined design, it will be in addition to the SP30 separate design.
In case of immersion cooling tanks, there is advantage to get as tight design as you can.
If one of the board fails, you simply remove it from the tank and replace it entirely.
Couldn't you design a control board that could power multiple mining boards? So if one failed you still pull it out, but just unplug it from the controller that could be sitting out of the fluid.

You mean  like this?

http://www.allied-control.com/immersion-cooling/xeon-phi-immersion-cooling-concept
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April 26, 2014, 10:45:41 AM
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my 2 satoshis would be to keep the controller on a separate board in case an asic board fries.

im just thinking back to the days of the V1 ASICMINER blades where if one part died. you could ask for an rma and not have to worry about shipping on the WHOLE product, just the replacement part

If we'll do the combined design, it will be in addition to the SP30 separate design.
In case of immersion cooling tanks, there is advantage to get as tight design as you can.
If one of the board fails, you simply remove it from the tank and replace it entirely.
Couldn't you design a control board that could power multiple mining boards? So if one failed you still pull it out, but just unplug it from the controller that could be sitting out of the fluid.
We're considering this option also. It still messes up maintenance though.
Simple is usually the best approach.

New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam.mw
Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
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