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September 02, 2022, 12:32:10 PM
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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.

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September 02, 2022, 03:17:45 PM
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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

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September 02, 2022, 03:37:25 PM
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Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

It is not easy for a player to adapt to a team that have a completely different system after playing for a certain team for so many years. It doesn't matter even if this player is a legend like Messi. If you remember the previous season he had big problems at the beginning. People started to criticize him very early but it wasn't fair of course. After he took his time we saw a very visible improvement in his performance but it was still not at the level PSG wanted to see.

But now he seems to have adapted completely. The main reason must be of course having amazing teammates like Mbappe and Neymar right beside him. Messi has always needed companions beside him to play more comfortable as you know. The best example is that he had great teammates like Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona many years ago and Messi reached this level faster thanks to them. If one of Mbappe and Neymar leaves PSG I think Messi might think of leaving seriously too. Especially Neymar's departure might affect him deeply as he is the player who Messi gets along with the most in the team.
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September 02, 2022, 05:08:04 PM
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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.
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September 02, 2022, 06:37:45 PM
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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.

You are right to a certain degree, but I would argue that he still belongs to the players who play the best assists ever. Mbappe's turbo goal after 8 seconds is a classic example: the pass is exactly where it has to come down and Mbappe just needs to finish. He still creates great chances and he can still score in a much smarter way then the average player. He hardly uses force.

I wouldn't say that he is the same he used to be, but he can still play in the best leagues and against the best teams. I would not be surprised if he scores some important goals not only in Ligue 1, but especially in the champions league or even the world cup.

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September 02, 2022, 06:50:57 PM
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Monaco are really a complete mess. They started the season with a 2-1 Strasbourg win. As you can remember Strasbourg were one of the striking teams of the previous season as they fought for even top 4. Therefore I was feeling positive about Monaco's new season after this start. But all of the matches after that are a complete disaster. They couldn't win a single match in four weeks. I can understand the point loss against PSG of course but they could have won nearly all of the other matches. They just conceded 8 goals in total from Troyes and Lens in home matches. I wonder if they will recover later on like the previous season.
i dont understand the decision of that penalty, its a really soft contact if any and isnt even anywhere near the ball + yellow card on that?? same with neymar penalty few days ago, if ref awards this kind of shit behavior with penalty it isnt gonna help the league. the second yellow wasn't even a foul, the ref must have some kind of grudge against maripan.
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September 02, 2022, 08:46:06 PM
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The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.
Are we sure about this though? I mean we are talking about media because we "read" about these deals by media, and then we see Mbappe saying something to Neymar during penalty and then Neymar keep shooting, and media says "mbappe wanted to shoot but Neymar ignored him and rejected him", well what if Mbappe just said "shoot to his right, the keeper can't save it" or something like that? We do not know; it is just media speculation.

If you can find me a video or a piece by either player themselves saying something bad about each other then I would agree. But so far, all the things that we read or "seen" were all by media and not really the real thing because there is no real proof.

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September 02, 2022, 09:36:57 PM
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Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.

During his time with Paris Saint-Germain Lionel Messi contributed more as an Assist because as you said Messi's way of playing was more about helping Mbappe and Neymar to score goals and bringing PSG to lead the match. Messi is a multi-talented player, I like the way he plays especially in terms of passing to teammates, it looks pretty perfect.

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September 02, 2022, 09:44:14 PM
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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.

Messi has a different role in PSG plus now he isnt the main superstar in the team. There are two more superstars Neymar and Mbappe so its hard to put them all togheter no matter how easy it looks. Messi also needed a year to adopt to PSG gamestyle and finally we have the old Messi
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It is still not the old Messi completely actually. But you all have a point that Messi is much better compared to last season. Messi can be his old version only if he returns to Barcelona but I don't know if he is thinking of it before his retirement. This is just the version of Messi which is close to his old performances. He needs to be consistent in the Champions League especially. Maybe drops in his form don't affect the team significantly in the Ligue 1 matches because of not having a real challenge. But the Champions League wouldn't forgive them if PSG don't play strongly as a team.

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September 02, 2022, 10:47:53 PM
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It is still not the old Messi completely actually. But you all have a point that Messi is much better compared to last season. Messi can be his old version only if he returns to Barcelona but I don't know if he is thinking of it before his retirement. This is just the version of Messi which is close to his old performances. He needs to be consistent in the Champions League especially. Maybe drops in his form don't affect the team significantly in the Ligue 1 matches because of not having a real challenge. But the Champions League wouldn't forgive them if PSG don't play strongly as a team.

Although Messi's age is old for a professional soccer player, Messi's stamina and speed have also decreased considerably. But Messi still has technique
and passing accuracy a very high, so Messi is one of the star players who can lift PSG's performance. Especially this season, Messi has seen more of
an important role than the previous season. Maybe this season Messi is starting to adapt well, I hope Messi can also contribute to PSG when he plays
in the Champions League.

Moreover, the Champions League trophy is PSG's main target this season, but as long as Messi can work well with Neymar and Mbappe it should be
very difficult for other teams to stop PSG. Unfortunately Messi, Mbappe and Neymar often play selfishly when playing, especially when PSG are in
a position behind. I hope Galtier is different from Pochettino and can control the star players at PSG. We'll see if Messi this season can help PSG win
the Champions League trophy or not, we will be able to start seeing PSG's performance in the Champions League next week. I really hope PSG can show
a better performance in the Champions League this season.

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September 02, 2022, 11:48:02 PM
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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

even if he creates a threat to opponents it is no longer the same threat he created in barcelona, honestly if he had stayed in barcelona even if he had to have reduced his salary by up to 75% reduction he would have made a good deal because I believe he would be scoring a lot of goals with Chavi as a coach, but he is now at PSG where he continues to have a good salary but he lost all the shine he had, you no longer hear: " messi scored X and saved the team ". at PSG he is simply being erased with each game and when he retires he will be forgotten

Moreover, the Champions League trophy is PSG's main target this season, but as long as Messi can work well with Neymar and Mbappe it should be
very difficult for other teams to stop PSG.

In fact, it's not even that difficult for any team from the champions' league to beat PSG, look at the French league, with so many weak teams and little competitiveness, it seems that PSG is very strong, but every time the same PSG plays against someone average team in the French league PSG does not come out with a good result, this shows that if PSG played for example in the premier league they would not even be in the second position, they would be in difficulties, that's why when they arrive in the champions league they find strong opponents and are faced with a harsh reality. I hope this season things go differently for them

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September 02, 2022, 11:58:43 PM
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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.

Messi has a different role in PSG plus now he isnt the main superstar in the team. There are two more superstars Neymar and Mbappe so its hard to put them all togheter no matter how easy it looks. Messi also needed a year to adopt to PSG gamestyle and finally we have the old Messi
I agree, I think it took Messi some time to merge with team and their players, even when he doesn't score, he is giving assists for goals, I don't think Messi cares anymore about being the top goalscorer of the team and the league, he is more focused on his team winning matches and trophies.

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Marseille performance this season is quite impressive and seems they had good balance to attack and defense because although not so productive such as PSG but they always be scoring goals for each matches and their defense also look very solid because from 4 matches Marseille only conceded 3 goals and today against Auxerre i am sure they will get 3 points from this match although Auxerre still unbeaten at their home ground but statistics showed Marseille had good records from Auxerre and the odds for Marseille is @1.73

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September 03, 2022, 06:22:45 AM
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Marseille performance this season is quite impressive and seems they had good balance to attack and defense because although not so productive such as PSG but they always be scoring goals for each matches and their defense also look very solid because from 4 matches Marseille only conceded 3 goals and today against Auxerre i am sure they will get 3 points from this match although Auxerre still unbeaten at their home ground but statistics showed Marseille had good records from Auxerre and the odds for Marseille is @1.73
this is a good betting opportunity, Marseille's performance in the last few matches is quite good, while Auxerre is still not stable and in terms of player quality Marseille is superior to Auxerre,
I have no doubts about Marseille's victory in this match, I'm willing to bet big on this match.
odds @ 1.73 is quite wort it to be chosen with a small risk and a bigger chance of winning.

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September 03, 2022, 07:14:40 AM
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Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

that's right, currently messi is no longer playing as a Target Man in the PSG squad because the target man is mbappe.
this role is solely an instruction from galtier and not his personal wish. proven, when psg against monaco, galtier prefer to pull messi from the field to be replaced by pablo sarabia rather than attract mbappe whose performance is clearly not very good.

from five matches messi is always in a very good form, even better than mbappe. but the club president and galtier still give privileges to mbappe, i am a little disappointed with this kind of treatment. although messi has entered a transitional period in his football career due to age. however, performance, stamina, skills, remain always a threat to the opponent's defense in a match.

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September 03, 2022, 08:28:49 AM
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~snip~
Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

that's right, currently messi is no longer playing as a Target Man in the PSG squad because the target man is mbappe.
this role is solely an instruction from galtier and not his personal wish. proven, when psg against monaco, galtier prefer to pull messi from the field to be replaced by pablo sarabia rather than attract mbappe whose performance is clearly not very good.

from five matches messi is always in a very good form, even better than mbappe. but the club president and galtier still give privileges to mbappe, i am a little disappointed with this kind of treatment. although messi has entered a transitional period in his football career due to age. however, performance, stamina, skills, remain always a threat to the opponent's defense in a match.

I think it will all come down to whether (or rather when) they will go through a critical time. If you see the three top stars playing their style, it is quite difficult to stop them. The real deal is when they get under pressure or when important situations arise and someone must take responsibility. That is when it becomes uncomfortable because everybody will watch how they behave and the media will put even more pressure onto them.

Usually, Messi is the perfect team mate for someone like Mbappe and Neymar. The three together have everything combined that a coach can only dream of. But they all have a huge ego while Mbappe currently is the worst when it comes to ego.

They can take a lot of pressure away by winning their first game against Juventus.

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this is a good betting opportunity, Marseille's performance in the last few matches is quite good, while Auxerre is still not stable and in terms of player quality Marseille is superior to Auxerre, I have no doubts about Marseille's victory in this match, I'm willing to bet big on this match. odds @ 1.73 is quite wort it to be chosen with a small risk and a bigger chance of winning.

If there is a site that gives 1.73 odds, I say play it now. I think Marseille is very close to winning but our local bookmaker only gives odds of 1.53. Marseille is doing very well, they have won the last three games. Auxerre is not a very big team, I don't think they can do much in the game. Their defenses are flawed. Last week Lyon scored two goals against Auxerre, Marseille may do the same this week.
Paris Saint-Germain will also take a comfortable win. Since the odds are very low, over 3.5 goals betting option can be tried. You can combine these two matches and create a nice France coupon. Or you can add it to the same coupon as other leagues.

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September 03, 2022, 12:02:00 PM
 #6759

If there is a site that gives 1.73 odds, I say play it now. I think Marseille is very close to winning but our local bookmaker only gives odds of 1.53. Marseille is doing very well, they have won the last three games. Auxerre is not a very big team, I don't think they can do much in the game. Their defenses are flawed. Last week Lyon scored two goals against Auxerre, Marseille may do the same this week.
Paris Saint-Germain will also take a comfortable win. Since the odds are very low, over 3.5 goals betting option can be tried. You can combine these two matches and create a nice France coupon. Or you can add it to the same coupon as other leagues.
No doubt about Marseille as they are second most competitive side in French League which is performing at top level after PSG and have very good record for last few seasons right now these odds @1.73 is very impressive but Auxerre is also impressive after promoting into Ligue 1 their record is also showing how they are doing in this season already have seven points from five games with lost against teams like Lille and Lyon on road with no lost at home it's not easy for Marseille to have all three points but if they play aggressive game then surely it's not easy for new promoted Auxerre to face them at home it's going to be entertaining match between these two teams for full points but for me here draw is also not bad for home team.

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September 03, 2022, 12:09:52 PM
 #6760

this is a good betting opportunity, Marseille's performance in the last few matches is quite good, while Auxerre is still not stable and in terms of player quality Marseille is superior to Auxerre, I have no doubts about Marseille's victory in this match, I'm willing to bet big on this match. odds @ 1.73 is quite wort it to be chosen with a small risk and a bigger chance of winning.

If there is a site that gives 1.73 odds, I say play it now. I think Marseille is very close to winning but our local bookmaker only gives odds of 1.53. Marseille is doing very well, they have won the last three games. Auxerre is not a very big team, I don't think they can do much in the game. Their defenses are flawed. Last week Lyon scored two goals against Auxerre, Marseille may do the same this week.
Paris Saint-Germain will also take a comfortable win. Since the odds are very low, over 3.5 goals betting option can be tried. You can combine these two matches and create a nice France coupon. Or you can add it to the same coupon as other leagues.
On Stake.com currently the odds for Marseille are @1.75 but regarding Auxerre, I think this team still cannot be underestimated because in several head to head matches with Marseille at least Auxerre can provide a strong resistance several times with a draw result. Therefore, I think it's natural that the odds are 1.7x because for me Marseille can't promise a 100% win and still has risks. But about PSG it's a definite win, instead of betting over 3.5 @1.65, I think betting PSG -1.5 @1.64 or -2 @2.01 is still a good choice too.

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