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April 10, 2023, 05:29:47 PM
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Mbappe is still in this league with PSG because of money mostly of course. He wants to achieve the Champions League title at least for once as well but I don't know if he can. Because PSG still don't seem trustworthy for that target. Above all else I don't like their choice for a coach. Galtier isn't the right coach for this team. He isn't experienced with big teams therefore it creates some kind of an obstacle for this team to achieve their targets.

I know that they haven't achieve that title anyway with a more experienced coach. But I just think like they still haven't found the right one for themselves. Zidane can really be the best choice but it won't be easy for PSG to convince him to manage them either. Because he doesn't even think of managing a team these days. Instead he is eager to manage France national team if I'm not wrong.
With lots of great players, PSG should have been able to advance to the UCL final or semifinals but unfortunately their journey always ran aground, judging from the composition of the players, it was more than enough, but it seems that a new coach is needed to manage players to be better than before, who knows with a new coach PSG can get better either in the league championship or UCL
It's not just about the coach. Of course, if a coach like Pep Guardiola comes to the team, then better results can be achieved. I think the problem may be that the chemistry of so many stars does not fit together. For the last time this season, I think we will see this trio together. UCL didn't happen, the league is having problems now Lens, Marsilya they all come from behind. but since they could not come cleanly in the teams coming from behind, they can use the gold point difference well and protect the league championship.

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April 10, 2023, 06:53:01 PM
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Already we all know that Messi was signed for a purpose that he is yet to redeem. PSG wouldn't be too shallow to allow him to leave,  not at this point where the team's performance seems to be declining. It's inarguably that PSG will experience a hard time in Messi's absence if things are like this while he is still in the club. I'm sure this whole thing is I'm Messi's hands cuz I know for sure that PSG has no other choice than to accept his offer,  if not for no other reason, it will be for the sake of next season's champion league tournament.
messi and neymar are ordinary people, so the expectations of PSG fans to the two of them are very unreasonable, what I see as the source of the problem in the PSG camp is the privilege that PSG has given to mbappe. I can't imagine what will happen to PSG's performance when Neymar and Messi are not there.

in the marseille vs lorient match, it was clear that lorient relied a lot on counterattacks, lorient's defense was also very good, it was evident that marseille seemed to have difficulty penetrating it. it's a shame that lorient didn't even score 1 goal even though the "shots on target" that lorient made quite a lot were 5.

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April 10, 2023, 07:21:59 PM
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It's not just about the coach. Of course, if a coach like Pep Guardiola comes to the team, then better results can be achieved. I think the problem may be that the chemistry of so many stars does not fit together. For the last time this season, I think we will see this trio together. UCL didn't happen, the league is having problems now Lens, Marsilya they all come from behind. but since they could not come cleanly in the teams coming from behind, they can use the gold point difference well and protect the league championship.

It's not hard to find a manager like Pep Guardiola lately. Everyone who has worked with Pep for several years learns from him and is doing great in his career. A clear example is Arteta. Another example is Vincent Kompany. Of course, these names are a little light for PSG, but Pep has a reality and he carries it everywhere. I just wanted to emphasize that. :)

PSG will most likely play without Messi next season. They are very likely to send Neymar from the team as well. Mbappe will be the admiral of the team. One admiral is enough for the Champions League or any other cup, the rest must be soldiers.

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April 10, 2023, 07:45:44 PM
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After joining PSC, Lionel Messi did not get the same support as the rest of the players supported him when he was in the Barcelona team. As a result, Lionel Messi is failing to give PSG something extraordinary. But I will blame the coach of the team for the bad condition of the team.
Or maybe it is about the fact that Messi is getting older as well. I am not really considering Messi to be someone that plays badly, but that doesn't mean that he is not playing as amazing as he used to. He is still playing very well, and he is still playing better than most players in the world. However, going from "greatest football player of all time" down to "he is at least as good as Kevin De Bruyne" type of level, is looking like a drop anyway.

Yes, it is a drop but would you not want him on your team? Any team in the world would want him still, dude is a beast, he is not GOAT level anymore but still better than any player in any team and that's why I think it may not be the reason why they haven't done well.

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April 10, 2023, 08:44:07 PM
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Marseille draw with Lorient was a bad result for them since that allowed lens team to get ahead of them and take the second spot and putting a two points difference between them but they still has a chance at redemption since lens team next games will be against psg and monaco so marseille will have a big chance taking the second position back.
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April 10, 2023, 08:45:04 PM
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After joining PSC, Lionel Messi did not get the same support as the rest of the players supported him when he was in the Barcelona team. As a result, Lionel Messi is failing to give PSG something extraordinary. But I will blame the coach of the team for the bad condition of the team.
Messi's role at PSG is clearly very different from that of Barcelona because in this team he is a supporter for his colleagues like Neymar and Mbappe to score goals and it is different when he is at Barcelona because he is a pillar. But even though at the moment his role is different, these 2 seasons he has always done his best and of course for Messi's age adapting to the role of this new club can be said to be very great.

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April 10, 2023, 08:59:51 PM
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He is literally the most important player for PSG so I wonder how long they will be able to keep him. Because being eliminated in the Champions League this early must have made Mbappe really frustrated. Real Madrid would be in line to sign him for sure.
we can not rule out the fact that Mbappe is really have dream to be champions league title. he has felt he couldn't get it in club where don't have mental for that. the only way is to move and switch to another club like Madrid. On another side, Madrid is try to building the dream team, a new Galacticos v.3.0, where they want to try to create a new dream team attacker, Mbappe-Haaland. Which I think is not imposible to happen because they have unlimited money where they can print it on anytime.


I really like how you say it, but you're really right, if Mbappé wants to win a UCL he has to change teams now, but it's a pity that at first Mbappé said no to Real Madrid because to be honest, Real Madrid doesn't give second chances, and I don't think they'll make an exception with Mbappé, although it wouldn't hurt the team to have the Frenchman so he can do things even better, I know that now Benzema is the King together with Modric and Kross, it's As you say, they are still the galacticos and they can be even much better, let's wait and see what Florentino decides.

But I'm not so sure Messi would take the risk by playing in the Arab league. His presence at PSG also does not show anything more. In contrast to when he played at Barcelona which was served entirely by other players.
Yes, of course if Messi moves to the Arab league, the eyes of the audience will be on the Arab league.
I think the Arab league needs to bring in more European league players. This will make the Arab league style of play even more interesting.
What risk does Messi take if he plays in the Arab League? I see no risks to play in Saudi Pro League. Messi even can get a bigger salary and he can give a big contribution to Saudi Pro League. In the future, people will always remember that Messi ever contributes to making Arab league bigger. His name will be in Saudi Pro League history forever.

Sure, not only Messi, Arab League must bring more famous players from top European leagues. More famous players come, people will be more excited to watch Saudi Pro League matches.


More popular players into the league will make the league more popular. This could increase the standard of play and make better players from the Asian countries. However it takes much more time for Saudi Arabia Pro League to meet the standards as the leagues played on the Western nations. With the involvement of Ronaldo the league have gained attention among the world football enthusiasts and the same will increase when more players be the part of the league.

In that part you are completely right, in fact it has aroused interest in watching the Saudi League, even the same TV channels that are sports, ESPN makes its space to broadcast these games, especially when CR7 is there, and if they leave more famous players to play in this league, it will make it very famous, it will attract the attention of many players and they will be able to have a better league every time, because if players from all over the world enter they will bring this technique to Arab football, which will make it much stronger , and be careful with the European Leagues and the Arabs take away their most famous players for paying them much better.

After joining PSC, Lionel Messi did not get the same support as the rest of the players supported him when he was in the Barcelona team. As a result, Lionel Messi is failing to give PSG something extraordinary. But I will blame the coach of the team for the bad condition of the team.
Messi's role at PSG is clearly very different from that of Barcelona because in this team he is a supporter for his colleagues like Neymar and Mbappe to score goals and it is different when he is at Barcelona because he is a pillar. But even though at the moment his role is different, these 2 seasons he has always done his best and of course for Messi's age adapting to the role of this new club can be said to be very great.

There is something that has always bothered me here in the big teams, and that is that they turn their backs on players like Messi, CR7, when their teams are doing badly they believe that the culprits are the famous players, so they took Messi out for the back door at Barcelona and now PSG treats Messi badly, in the case of the Parque de los Príncipes it is something that they should not do to Messi, something very bad and that is bad custom, they always blame players like these.

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April 10, 2023, 10:26:55 PM
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Marseille lost 2 more points with a goalless draw away to Lorient and we can say that their championship chances have started to diminish for them.They were doing very well but it is very normal for you to lose points in such matches if you lose points in such matches.Lens, on the other hand, won and maintained their point difference with PSG.There is a 6 point difference between them and there are 8 games left.This difference is a difference that can be closed and they have to wait for PSG to lose points and win all their matches.It is not easy for them but it is not impossible.

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April 10, 2023, 10:31:29 PM
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I wasn't expecting Marseille to have this much difficulty against Lorient. They could have been much more effective when it comes to finding the target. They had so many goal attempts but only two of them were on target. This is really a horrible performance by Marseille honestly. Lorient were much better about this statistics despite Marseille's overwhelming ball possession percentage.

Marseille should be just grateful for Lorient not winning this game. Because it seemed like a winnable one for Lorient here. Marseille are still not quite consistent and this helped Lens a lot to keep a nice gap with them in the standings.

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April 10, 2023, 10:38:13 PM
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I wasn't expecting Marseille to have this much difficulty against Lorient. They could have been much more effective when it comes to finding the target. They had so many goal attempts but only two of them were on target. This is really a horrible performance by Marseille honestly. Lorient were much better about this statistics despite Marseille's overwhelming ball possession percentage.

Marseille should be just grateful for Lorient not winning this game. Because it seemed like a winnable one for Lorient here. Marseille are still not quite consistent and this helped Lens a lot to keep a nice gap with them in the standings.
It's a pity for Marseille to lose points from this match and I definitely expected them to win in this match, but I still didn't trust them to bet against them.Marseille missed opportunities that could have been champions and now maybe they are slowly leaving the race.Igor tudor is a good coach, but it is obvious that he is doing some things wrong.It is difficult for PSG to lose points from now on and now PSG is slowly starting to move towards the championship.Your chances of becoming champion against this squad were already low and it seems to be expected.

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April 10, 2023, 11:23:22 PM
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After joining PSC, Lionel Messi did not get the same support as the rest of the players supported him when he was in the Barcelona team. As a result, Lionel Messi is failing to give PSG something extraordinary. But I will blame the coach of the team for the bad condition of the team.
Or maybe it is about the fact that Messi is getting older as well. I am not really considering Messi to be someone that plays badly, but that doesn't mean that he is not playing as amazing as he used to. He is still playing very well, and he is still playing better than most players in the world. However, going from "greatest football player of all time" down to "he is at least as good as Kevin De Bruyne" type of level, is looking like a drop anyway.
Yes, it is a drop but would you not want him on your team? Any team in the world would want him still, dude is a beast, he is not GOAT level anymore but still better than any player in any team and that's why I think it may not be the reason why they haven't done well.

Lionel Messi is certainly not finished and he is still one of the best. No matter what PSG fans say. I absolutely agree that he is certainly not getting the support that he needs from the PSG team. And I also hope that people understand how a team is going to perform when a certain player stops running just because he was not passed the ball.

All I want to say is that the PSG team has a lot of problems. But Lionel Messi is not one of them.

My personal opinion is that the PSG authority is the main reason for the downfall of PSG themselves. feel free to disagree.


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April 10, 2023, 11:29:27 PM
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I wasn't expecting Marseille to have this much difficulty against Lorient. They could have been much more effective when it comes to finding the target. They had so many goal attempts but only two of them were on target. This is really a horrible performance by Marseille honestly. Lorient were much better about this statistics despite Marseille's overwhelming ball possession percentage.

Marseille should be just grateful for Lorient not winning this game. Because it seemed like a winnable one for Lorient here. Marseille are still not quite consistent and this helped Lens a lot to keep a nice gap with them in the standings.
They're so bad at finishing that it makes me a little rattled by the play they put in.
Even though in this match there was nothing wrong with them especially with ball possession and the number of chances they had but they still couldn't do it well and even from 13 shots only 2 were on target which made this really bad for them.

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Obviously everything fans will blame the main star in every match no matter he has made an extraordinary contribution to the team.
I would not view this as a form of mockery for stars like Neymar and Mbappe and Lionel Messi because they have given their best for PSG this season.

Even for the ucl their fall in the round of 16 is nothing but luck not on their side I mean they have strong enough strength in their squad depth but they failed in this most prestigious competition.

Many of the problems that hit them, especially the worsening friendship between them, which previously or at the start of this season had become a scene between Neymar and Mbappe, but that's what happened.

For next season I will not believe that Lionel messi will stay at PSG for sure he will look for another club that gives him support and freedom and the important thing is to get the full support of the fans. Maybe this is Lionel Messi's last season with PSG and I hope he can brought the ligue 1 trophy this season.

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April 10, 2023, 11:56:55 PM
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I wasn't expecting Marseille to have this much difficulty against Lorient. They could have been much more effective when it comes to finding the target. They had so many goal attempts but only two of them were on target. This is really a horrible performance by Marseille honestly. Lorient were much better about this statistics despite Marseille's overwhelming ball possession percentage.

Marseille should be just grateful for Lorient not winning this game. Because it seemed like a winnable one for Lorient here. Marseille are still not quite consistent and this helped Lens a lot to keep a nice gap with them in the standings.
Surprising indeed marseille should have won it by statistics , even in the last five matches between the two , marseille always win 5 out of 5 meets against lorient but this time held goalless 0-0 awfully , with this result ... marseille failed to takeover the second place.

The title race wide open as the point gap between the first position to 4th is only few points.

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April 11, 2023, 01:51:41 AM
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I wasn't expecting Marseille to have this much difficulty against Lorient. They could have been much more effective when it comes to finding the target. They had so many goal attempts but only two of them were on target. This is really a horrible performance by Marseille honestly. Lorient were much better about this statistics despite Marseille's overwhelming ball possession percentage.

Marseille should be just grateful for Lorient not winning this game. Because it seemed like a winnable one for Lorient here. Marseille are still not quite consistent and this helped Lens a lot to keep a nice gap with them in the standings.

It's another one that plays into the hands of PSG. Imagine Olympique Marseille wouldn't have tied three out of the last five games. Then Ligue 1 would still be exciting to follow. Now it all comes down to whether or not Lens can keep up the pressure and win their games. PSG is making mistakes from time to time this season, but with the number of games left decreasing it becomes more unlikely that PSG will tumble on more than two occasions.

It comes down anyway to the showdown on the coming weekend between Lens and PSG. If PSG wins it, the season is over. If Lens can secure a win it will be a lot of fun to see whether PSG really somehow loses the Ligue 1 title. Hard to imagine, but I would enjoy it! Cheesy

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April 11, 2023, 06:02:08 AM
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I wasn't expecting Marseille to have this much difficulty against Lorient. They could have been much more effective when it comes to finding the target. They had so many goal attempts but only two of them were on target. This is really a horrible performance by Marseille honestly. Lorient were much better about this statistics despite Marseille's overwhelming ball possession percentage.
Marseille should be just grateful for Lorient not winning this game. Because it seemed like a winnable one for Lorient here. Marseille are still not quite consistent and this helped Lens a lot to keep a nice gap with them in the standings.
It's another one that plays into the hands of PSG. Imagine Olympique Marseille wouldn't have tied three out of the last five games. Then Ligue 1 would still be exciting to follow. Now it all comes down to whether or not Lens can keep up the pressure and win their games. PSG is making mistakes from time to time this season, but with the number of games left decreasing it becomes more unlikely that PSG will tumble on more than two occasions.
It comes down anyway to the showdown on the coming weekend between Lens and PSG. If PSG wins it, the season is over. If Lens can secure a win it will be a lot of fun to see whether PSG really somehow loses the Ligue 1 title. Hard to imagine, but I would enjoy it! Cheesy

PSG is only 6 points ahead of Lens. And so for PSG, every upcoming match is very important. And since Lens is now PSG's main rival for the title. So PSG must win against Lens.
However, PSG's past record against Lens is not good. The PSG team could not win against Lens in the last three matches. Even in the last away match PSG team lost 3-1 against Lens. And they have drawn their previous 2 matches. So there is no reason to think that PSG is too strong against Lens. There is no doubt that the match will be very competitive. And PSG's dominance will only look unlikely. There is no wonder if PSG lost.

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April 11, 2023, 06:42:19 AM
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PSG is only 6 points ahead of Lens. And so for PSG, every upcoming match is very important. And since Lens is now PSG's main rival for the title. So PSG must win against Lens.
However, PSG's past record against Lens is not good. The PSG team could not win against Lens in the last three matches. Even in the last away match PSG team lost 3-1 against Lens. And they have drawn their previous 2 matches. So there is no reason to think that PSG is too strong against Lens. There is no doubt that the match will be very competitive. And PSG's dominance will only look unlikely. There is no wonder if PSG lost.
Ligue 1 have eight matches left and current standing PSG lead with 6 points behind Lens, after Marseille getting draw against Lorient seems right now only Lens are compete team for PSG winning Ligue 1 tittle 2022/2023 season. Next game crucial for both team if want keep get chance in Ligue 1 tittle race depending who will be the winner, PSG have chance to close competition early if winning from Lens but its not easy because head to head Lens have impressive performance than PSG.

Lens opponents is the only one team for PSG with several matches left, difference with Lens have against Monaco and Marseille are potential will make the loss points in that matches.

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April 11, 2023, 08:41:39 AM
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Already we all know that Messi was signed for a purpose that he is yet to redeem. PSG wouldn't be too shallow to allow him to leave,  not at this point where the team's performance seems to be declining. It's inarguably that PSG will experience a hard time in Messi's absence if things are like this while he is still in the club. I'm sure this whole thing is I'm Messi's hands cuz I know for sure that PSG has no other choice than to accept his offer,  if not for no other reason, it will be for the sake of next season's champion league tournament.
messi and neymar are ordinary people, so the expectations of PSG fans to the two of them are very unreasonable, what I see as the source of the problem in the PSG camp is the privilege that PSG has given to mbappe. I can't imagine what will happen to PSG's performance when Neymar and Messi are not there.

in the marseille vs lorient match, it was clear that lorient relied a lot on counterattacks, lorient's defense was also very good, it was evident that marseille seemed to have difficulty penetrating it. it's a shame that lorient didn't even score 1 goal even though the "shots on target" that lorient made quite a lot were 5.
Messi, Neymar and Mbappe ofcourse are ordinary people but are extraordinary football geniuses and that's is why they receive more wages than the rest members of the squad every week at Paris Saint Germain. The expectation from the club fans aren't far-fetched considering the their footballing prowess and that's why I think it's normal for the fans to expect them to deliver a trophy that's eluded the club since it's formation which s the UEFA Champions League. Winning the league wasn't just the reason the trio was bought because PSG were serial winners before their arrival and the aim of the club owners which made them to heavily invest in the club must be achieved.

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April 11, 2023, 09:23:36 AM
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Already we all know that Messi was signed for a purpose that he is yet to redeem. PSG wouldn't be too shallow to allow him to leave,  not at this point where the team's performance seems to be declining. It's inarguably that PSG will experience a hard time in Messi's absence if things are like this while he is still in the club. I'm sure this whole thing is I'm Messi's hands cuz I know for sure that PSG has no other choice than to accept his offer,  if not for no other reason, it will be for the sake of next season's champion league tournament.
messi and neymar are ordinary people, so the expectations of PSG fans to the two of them are very unreasonable, what I see as the source of the problem in the PSG camp is the privilege that PSG has given to mbappe. I can't imagine what will happen to PSG's performance when Neymar and Messi are not there.
in the marseille vs lorient match, it was clear that lorient relied a lot on counterattacks, lorient's defense was also very good, it was evident that marseille seemed to have difficulty penetrating it. it's a shame that lorient didn't even score 1 goal even though the "shots on target" that lorient made quite a lot were 5.
Messi, Neymar and Mbappe ofcourse are ordinary people but are extraordinary football geniuses and that's is why they receive more wages than the rest members of the squad every week at Paris Saint Germain. The expectation from the club fans aren't far-fetched considering the their footballing prowess and that's why I think it's normal for the fans to expect them to deliver a trophy that's eluded the club since it's formation which s the UEFA Champions League. Winning the league wasn't just the reason the trio was bought because PSG were serial winners before their arrival and the aim of the club owners which made them to heavily invest in the club must be achieved.

PSG have strengthened their attack. They have recruited three of the best players in the world like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. But they didn't strengthen their midfield enough. If the midfield is not strong then only strong forwards cannot be expected to perform well. The forwards' bond with the midfield is strong, but the team's overall performance is good.
At the same time, I will say that PSG's squad has a lot of tactical problems. Even their coach is yet to find a stable formation for the team. How will the team play well if the match strategy is weak?
PSG should first coach the team with someone who has experience on the Champions League platform. And giving him complete freedom to form the team. Since PSG has no problem giving a big fund. So it is expected that the team will be stronger if there is an experienced coach.

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April 11, 2023, 09:47:00 AM
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Already we all know that Messi was signed for a purpose that he is yet to redeem. PSG wouldn't be too shallow to allow him to leave,  not at this point where the team's performance seems to be declining. It's inarguably that PSG will experience a hard time in Messi's absence if things are like this while he is still in the club. I'm sure this whole thing is I'm Messi's hands cuz I know for sure that PSG has no other choice than to accept his offer,  if not for no other reason, it will be for the sake of next season's champion league tournament.
messi and neymar are ordinary people, so the expectations of PSG fans to the two of them are very unreasonable, what I see as the source of the problem in the PSG camp is the privilege that PSG has given to mbappe. I can't imagine what will happen to PSG's performance when Neymar and Messi are not there.
in the marseille vs lorient match, it was clear that lorient relied a lot on counterattacks, lorient's defense was also very good, it was evident that marseille seemed to have difficulty penetrating it. it's a shame that lorient didn't even score 1 goal even though the "shots on target" that lorient made quite a lot were 5.
Messi, Neymar and Mbappe ofcourse are ordinary people but are extraordinary football geniuses and that's is why they receive more wages than the rest members of the squad every week at Paris Saint Germain. The expectation from the club fans aren't far-fetched considering the their footballing prowess and that's why I think it's normal for the fans to expect them to deliver a trophy that's eluded the club since it's formation which s the UEFA Champions League. Winning the league wasn't just the reason the trio was bought because PSG were serial winners before their arrival and the aim of the club owners which made them to heavily invest in the club must be achieved.

PSG have strengthened their attack. They have recruited three of the best players in the world like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. But they didn't strengthen their midfield enough. If the midfield is not strong then only strong forwards cannot be expected to perform well. The forwards' bond with the midfield is strong, but the team's overall performance is good.
At the same time, I will say that PSG's squad has a lot of tactical problems. Even their coach is yet to find a stable formation for the team. How will the team play well if the match strategy is weak?
PSG should first coach the team with someone who has experience on the Champions League platform. And giving him complete freedom to form the team. Since PSG has no problem giving a big fund. So it is expected that the team will be stronger if there is an experienced coach.

I think judging what you say that I also agree and the only coach who can make them win the Champions League for me is Carlo Ancelotti.He has done well in every team he has managed,even in CSKA Moscow for a bit of time when he was training there and brought them on the Champions League several occasions.I think this coach can do wonders with a team like Paris and their superstar players,I am sure the experience he has would come in great help to Paris in trying to win the Champions League.For this to happen though Paris should pay him a huge amount of money so that he can accept the job and bring Paris to new levels in International competitions.

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