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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.4%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.9%)
Arsenal - 38 (20.8%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.6%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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July 29, 2023, 08:29:34 PM
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I know Gurdiola is a great coach and they had a good performance in Manchester City but I think the main reason for Arsenal losing the race to Manchester City in the last weeks, other than their coach was a lack of good players in Arsenal and they didn't even have enough forwards but in the next season after the money they spend for hiring player, I guess Arsenal can have much better results.


Yeah we don't need to doubt the ability of these two managers what is different is the composition of the players, Manchester City's squad is more complete and supported by good second tier players as well while Arsenal are slightly below them. But that was last season's squad, for this season we can't compare it yet as we know Arsenal has brought in some great and expensive players this season which means their ability is better than last season. Arsenal have focused on defense and attack like what was recorded in their transfer list and have spent over €231 million so far on just 3 players.


The biggest reason Arsenal have lost points in the last few weeks is inexperience. I can't explain it with anything else. The players in the matches they won and lost are the same. Did these players suddenly lose their skills? No, they just couldn't handle the stress of being a leader. This is due to the lack of experience. It has nothing to do with the coaches. It's just a matter of lack of experience.

Arsenal spent a lot of money. I hope they get what they pay for. They need to be in a structure to make up for the lack of experience in the team. For example, they can get along with experienced names. Younger players are preferred these days, but at the end of the season, we have all seen how big the shortage of experienced players is.
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July 29, 2023, 08:33:33 PM
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If you look further, it is true that the transfer market is very crazy because several teams that have become the main attraction in this transfer market have set very high release clauses for their players. For Arsenal of course they have spent quite a lot of money and they will probably continue to be aggressive to build a stronger squad. For stickers, it might be quite difficult to find one that can really make a big contribution to every game.
So far Arsenal are known to have spent more than 230 million euros to bring in several players during the transfer market. Declan Rice is the most expensive player they have signed with a transfer value of 116 million euros, followed by Kai Havertz with a value of 75 million euros. Then Arsenal also signed Jurrien Timber with a value of up to 40 million euros so that Arsenal's total spending during the transfer market was very large.

Arsenal need to balance their income and expenses, especially in terms of player transfers. So far Arsenal have only managed to sell a few players such as Granit Xhaka and Pablo Marí, but their value has not been higher than 20 million euros. It's clear that this is part of Arteta's plan to win titles, but financially then I think Arsenal still need to adjust.
Of course, Arsenal must make adjustments so they can balance their expenses to anticipate things that are not wanted, such as the financial crisis experienced by most teams. But their performance began to show quite prominent developments last season because they were able to provide quite strong competition in the EPL, moreover, Arsenal will be playing in the Champions League, so Arteta needs to recruit quality players to help him achieve their targets next season.

On the one hand, the revival that Arteta has built will make them stronger for the title race next season. So that the investments made in this transfer window will probably achieve great success if Arteta is able to present a prestigious trophy for Arsenal next season, be it the UCL or EPL trophy.

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July 29, 2023, 09:16:52 PM
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I'd like to believe that Man U can once again be stronger than another club from Manchester.... But that doesn't seem very realistic to me.... The EPL is very competitive right now... Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, maybe Chelsea will join the race.... And of course Man City are stronger than ever... I also doubt Man U's success in the Champions League....
I understand that many people will start doubting Manchester United's performance in the coming season after seeing Manchester United's defeat by Real Madrid in the pre-season match. Even Manchester United's defense really looked fragile at the start of the game. Andre Onana also made his debut as Manchester United goalkeeper in that match. And his reputation suffered a bit after he conceded 1 goals in the 6th minute by J. Bellingham and 1 gol in the 89th minute by Joselu. But I personally don't blame Onana in that fight. Because the real fault lies with the Manchester United defender. And in that position, Onana did not really benefit. And I believe Erik Ten Heg hasn't shown the real strategy he has prepared for the coming season. So I still hope that Manchester United will be one of the strong candidates in the title race. But if I have to compare between Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle and Manchester United. So of course I also think that Manchester City is still top in terms of performance at the moment. And I think it is Liverpool who will be the closest this time around to compete with Manchester City. Recently, Chelsea has also been a little surprising because their performance in pre-season matches was considered quite positive and exceeded people's expectations of the club. But I still doubt Chelsea will be able to recover quickly.

It seems to me that you can't make a conclusion about the condition of the team from one friendly match.... Usually such games are not taken seriously.... Maybe for Man U this was the case... Their next game will be against Dortmund at Old Trafford.... Let's see what they can show for their fans.... If they lose again, it will mean they are bad....

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July 29, 2023, 09:22:06 PM
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For Maguire a change of the location, or the league to be more specific, would be the best way to move on for him. I think that his career is more or less over in the Premier League because it is the same people in the end who are watching him and who are giving him the bird if they see him making any mistakes. Minor mistakes will already be an issue because he has no room for error left, which is bad for a defender as the press will attack him as soon as he makes a small mistake.
Of course Maguire has to see the opportunities that exist because it is very difficult for him to develop his qualities in the Premier League so he needs an easier League for his career. Apart from that the interest from the top teams in Serie A in him opened up opportunities for Manchester United to release him in this summer's transfer window. For the value of the release maybe Manchester United can adjust well so that the Serie A teams can reach it because we know the Serie A team finances have not been very good in the last few seasons.

The time for the transfer market is still long. I think some teams are still actively trying to sell players or buy players in this summer transfer window. Manchester United are still trying hard to convince Atalanta to agree to their offer to sign Hojlund in this transfer window.

It is not so much about finding an easier league, but about finding a new place to play where he isn't immediately picked by everyone as the one to blame for mistakes and losses. This is his reputation at the moment and as soon as he makes mistake, it was his fault when the team loses the game. Manchester United is not the team where he is most likely to recover and play his best.

But "Manchester United turn down £20m Harry Maguire offer from West Ham" It won't be easy for him to find a new club as it didn't go unnoticed that he had a bad time and no club would want to pay too much for him now, but instead try to make use of the situation that Manchester United wants him out of the team. This could still take a couple of weeks until Maguire knows where his career will continue.

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July 29, 2023, 09:24:18 PM
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The biggest reason Arsenal have lost points in the last few weeks is inexperience. I can't explain it with anything else. The players in the matches they won and lost are the same. Did these players suddenly lose their skills? No, they just couldn't handle the stress of being a leader. This is due to the lack of experience. It has nothing to do with the coaches. It's just a matter of lack of experience.

Arsenal spent a lot of money. I hope they get what they pay for. They need to be in a structure to make up for the lack of experience in the team. For example, they can get along with experienced names. Younger players are preferred these days, but at the end of the season, we have all seen how big the shortage of experienced players is.

If we talk about inexperience, it's actually not quite right because the Premier League is a regular competition meaning that all players are used to playing there, unless we talk about European competitions like the Champions League, it makes sense if they lack experience. We can see in a few weeks they are playing consistently however towards the end of the season everything changed suddenly the strategy did not work as expected. Some people think they are tired of going through various competitions there are also those who argue that second-tier players are incapable of taking on a substitute role, whatever the reason Arteta knows better and he has anticipated it in this transfer window.

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July 29, 2023, 09:28:14 PM
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It seems to me that you can't make a conclusion about the condition of the team from one friendly match.... Usually such games are not taken seriously.... Maybe for Man U this was the case... Their next game will be against Dortmund at Old Trafford.... Let's see what they can show for their fans.... If they lose again, it will mean they are bad....
Indeed, usually clubs will not play very optimally during pre-season matches or friendly matches. because they have various considerations, especially to stay away from any risk of injury. So they carry out introductions and experiments with their own players and with their opponents. But even though it's not that serious, matches like this can be used as one of the assets for evaluation to prepare for important matches in the league this season. Because after all, of course the coach can see the potential that can be further developed in this kind of competition.

Man United themselves are currently improving, of course with some of their new players, they want to optimize their performance this season. They have Onana, because she's new, maybe she's still adapting. It really needs a few more matches at least to see how they might perform in the future.

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July 29, 2023, 09:31:46 PM
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I know Gurdiola is a great coach and they had a good performance in Manchester City but I think the main reason for Arsenal losing the race to Manchester City in the last weeks, other than their coach was a lack of good players in Arsenal and they didn't even have enough forwards but in the next season after the money they spend for hiring player, I guess Arsenal can have much better results.


Yeah we don't need to doubt the ability of these two managers what is different is the composition of the players, Manchester City's squad is more complete and supported by good second tier players as well while Arsenal are slightly below them. But that was last season's squad, for this season we can't compare it yet as we know Arsenal has brought in some great and expensive players this season which means their ability is better than last season. Arsenal have focused on defense and attack like what was recorded in their transfer list and have spent over €231 million so far on just 3 players.


The biggest reason Arsenal have lost points in the last few weeks is inexperience. I can't explain it with anything else. The players in the matches they won and lost are the same. Did these players suddenly lose their skills? No, they just couldn't handle the stress of being a leader. This is due to the lack of experience. It has nothing to do with the coaches. It's just a matter of lack of experience.

Arsenal spent a lot of money. I hope they get what they pay for. They need to be in a structure to make up for the lack of experience in the team. For example, they can get along with experienced names. Younger players are preferred these days, but at the end of the season, we have all seen how big the shortage of experienced players is.
I personally don't feel it's a matter of experience, it's just that the mental aspect and significant changes in terms of performance for Arsenal are like a never-ending problem for them.
The experience of the players even at a young age cannot be underestimated because they are already at a big level and always play and compete with big clubs so experience cannot be used as a strong reason when Arsenal lost momentum on the championship path last season.
In the last few seasons the increase and decrease in performance for Arsenal we have often encountered as well as the season that has been over so in this case I think Arteta's abilities and schemes still have gaps.

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July 29, 2023, 09:35:53 PM
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A complete revamp is what Pocchetino did in Chelsea. Am happy he was man enough to let go of unnecessary players that were in Chelsea making no impact in the club.
I don't think it is complete revamp. There are several old players who stay in Chelsea, not every old players to be sold. Pocchetino seems to keep the players who still can contribute well and they fit with Pocchetino's tactic/strategy. It will be too risky if Pocchetino really take the option of complete revamp. Chelsea squad probably lose their balance and Pocchetino will be difficult to rebuild the squad quickly.

In the preseason match played by the Chelsea team, they managed to win two of their match games and draw one. This indicates that Pocchettino is succeeding in putting up back the winning mentality in the mind of every Chelsea players.
Yes, Chelsea got some wins in pre season matches. It means Pocchetino succeeds to rebuild Chelsea squad with their own way. Although the new season isn't started yet, but we can have a big hope with the current condition of Chelsea performance. I'm sure Chelsea can show their good shape again in the next season under Pocchetino's mangement. They look to have solid game, stronger mentality, and more offensive now.


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It won't be impossible, but it will be challenging. I think the upcoming season will be very difficult since Chelsea and Liverpool will have learned from their mistakes and tried to make them right before the season starts, which means they are also contending for the title.  When challenging for the title, getting off to a strong start is crucial, but over the long run, will they be able to maintain consistency when player injuries and fatigue set in? If so, will their squad have enough depth to withstand all of this? That's what happened to Arsenal at the close of the previous season; they were helpless to withstand the toll that injuries took.

I'd like to see a team other than Manchester City win the title. 
I want Arsenal to compete with Manchester City in these teams. Just like last season so Manchester City could not get past the Premier League very comfortably. I want every team to be this strong and every match to be competitive.
Yeah, Arsenal gave it a strong fight and at some point even guadiola thought he have lost the league already but then injuries set in for Arsenal and they started dropping points in matches they would have won comfortably. I have no doubt Manchester City won’t have it easy this time, all clubs are getting prepared and they all look strong so far from latest signings they added to the team.

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July 29, 2023, 10:18:00 PM
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I'd like to believe that Man U can once again be stronger than another club from Manchester.... But that doesn't seem very realistic to me.... The EPL is very competitive right now... Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, maybe Chelsea will join the race.... And of course Man City are stronger than ever... I also doubt Man U's success in the Champions League....
I understand that many people will start doubting Manchester United's performance in the coming season after seeing Manchester United's defeat by Real Madrid in the pre-season match. Even Manchester United's defense really looked fragile at the start of the game. Andre Onana also made his debut as Manchester United goalkeeper in that match. And his reputation suffered a bit after he conceded 1 goals in the 6th minute by J. Bellingham and 1 gol in the 89th minute by Joselu. But I personally don't blame Onana in that fight. Because the real fault lies with the Manchester United defender. And in that position, Onana did not really benefit. And I believe Erik Ten Heg hasn't shown the real strategy he has prepared for the coming season. So I still hope that Manchester United will be one of the strong candidates in the title race. But if I have to compare between Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle and Manchester United. So of course I also think that Manchester City is still top in terms of performance at the moment. And I think it is Liverpool who will be the closest this time around to compete with Manchester City. Recently, Chelsea has also been a little surprising because their performance in pre-season matches was considered quite positive and exceeded people's expectations of the club. But I still doubt Chelsea will be able to recover quickly.

It seems to me that you can't make a conclusion about the condition of the team from one friendly match.... Usually such games are not taken seriously.... Maybe for Man U this was the case... Their next game will be against Dortmund at Old Trafford.... Let's see what they can show for their fans.... If they lose again, it will mean they are bad....

We are not saying Mancshter United had to win the game even if it was a friendly match but I think the performance of Ten Hag and his players was not good enough against Real Madrid however in the next friendly match Mancshter United should face Dortmund which can be an easier game for them and I think this time they can then have chance to play against a team with different playing style.

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July 29, 2023, 10:34:37 PM
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A complete revamp is what Pocchetino did in Chelsea. Am happy he was man enough to let go of unnecessary players that were in Chelsea making no impact in the club.
I don't think it is complete revamp. There are several old players who stay in Chelsea, not every old players to be sold. Pocchetino seems to keep the players who still can contribute well and they fit with Pocchetino's tactic/strategy. It will be too risky if Pocchetino really take the option of complete revamp. Chelsea squad probably lose their balance and Pocchetino will be difficult to rebuild the squad quickly.
Is it up to five out of the several old players you believe Chelsea still has? There are currently only four older players left: Thiago Silva, James, Kepa, and Chilwell. When Pocchetino took over as Chelsea's coach, many were sold.
Inasmuch as Pocchetino has let go of so many old players, I don't think it's a risky move. He is simultaneously bringing in new players and letting go of old players, To balance the equation

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Congratulations to Manchester United for completing the signing of Rasmus Hojlund finally. The details of the deal is said to be like 70 million euros transfer fee with add-ons. It is going to be a five-year deal for the Red Devils. Hojlund has been keen on joining Manchester United more than the other candidates reportedly.

But as I said before there is still a question mark about his future performance. He hasn't been very impressive just as Haaland was before joining Manchester City for example. Hojlund is also said to have a quite big potential but he needs to prove this to everyone.

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July 29, 2023, 11:05:35 PM
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Congratulations to Manchester United for completing the signing of Rasmus Hojlund finally. The details of the deal is said to be like 70 million euros transfer fee with add-ons. It is going to be a five-year deal for the Red Devils. Hojlund has been keen on joining Manchester United more than the other candidates reportedly.

But as I said before there is still a question mark about his future performance. He hasn't been very impressive just as Haaland was before joining Manchester City for example. Hojlund is also said to have a quite big potential but he needs to prove this to everyone.

Overall performance is not very impressive but that doesn't mean he can't do something with Manchester United maybe he just needs the support and the right partner to prove it and Ten Hag would give him a chance. Even as a young player he has experience in several leagues including the Europa League so the experience is not to be doubted I think Manchester United took the right step and now they are ready to compete in the standings like last season , competition is getting fiercer than last season because each team made the best recruitment.

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In my opinion, Ten Hag has provided something quite positive. Even though it couldn't be said to be perfect, but what Ten Hag did could bring Man United to good progress. It is indeed quite difficult to shift Man City's dominance in the Premier League but that doesn't mean that Man United doesn't have the chance to make it happen. If Man United can get a world-class striker, I think they will make good achievements this season.
I also want to say Man United is not perfect with the existing squad. I will blame Ten Hag if this season they fail to win a trophy because he doesn't have a striker who is hungry for goals. Because all the other teams have started the season by building the perfect squad, of course, Man United, as you said, will find it difficult if they want to compete because other teams have very lethal attackers.

because we all know Man United needs a striker, wasting money at Mason Mount when Man United's budget is limited is crazy. Since Ronaldo's departure, Man United knew they needed a striker. We can see Liverpool has four killers in the box, Arsenal has at least three, and man City has two. Newcastle has at least three, while Man United only has one, namely Rashford, who is not sure he can reproduce last season's performance. Therefore, if Man United wants to compete with Man City, they have to buy a striker like Hojlund or Kane.

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Liverpool is trying to get mbappe as loan from PSG but i don't even think PSG wanna give mbappe's remaining contract as loan to the liverpool. PSG will prefer to sell him as permanent status instead of giving him to the liverpool as a loan. It's a trick by liverpool.

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Liverpool are in talks with Paris Saint-Germain over a sensational loan move for Kylian Mbappe.

PSG are fuming that Mbappe refused to talk to Saudi Arabia side Al Hilal after the French champions accepted their world record shattering £259million bid. But they also fear that Mbappe will walk out for nothing in 12 months' time to Real Madrid.

Liverpool are ready to offer Mbappe a one-year loan deal, which gets him out of Paris, will bring in cash for PSG and enables the 24-year-old striker to complete his dream move to Madrid. The Reds have been encouraged by Mbappe's respect for the club and the fact that his mother, Fayza Lamari – also his agent – is an avid Kop fan.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-kylian-mbappe-transfer-loan-30583941

My guess if PSG gonna refuses liverpool's loan. It's caused by the club wanna only to sell mbappe as a permanent transfer consider how big the price that the buyer must pay. The arabian club seems still become the main target for PSG to sell mbappe.
It's not clear yet how much money offered by liverpool to take mbappe as loan. I would like to see that EPL club tries to place bid for mbappe.

PSG is now in a trouble caused by mbappe refuses to leave from the PSG to go to the saudi club. Al hilal's offer is very big but mbappe refejected to face saudi's delegation.

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July 29, 2023, 11:52:04 PM
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Congratulations to Manchester United for completing the signing of Rasmus Hojlund finally. The details of the deal is said to be like 70 million euros transfer fee with add-ons. It is going to be a five-year deal for the Red Devils. Hojlund has been keen on joining Manchester United more than the other candidates reportedly.

But as I said before there is still a question mark about his future performance. He hasn't been very impressive just as Haaland was before joining Manchester City for example. Hojlund is also said to have a quite big potential but he needs to prove this to everyone.
Hojlund also received strong interest from PSG. However, his priority destination is still Old Trafford. He still wants to play for Man Utd. With a transfer fee of 70 million euros, it is entirely suitable for a potential young player like Hojlund. But is Manchester United too risky to bring in a young player to fill the void left by Cristiano Ronaldo? Or is Ten Hag still leaving that space for an unexploded blockbuster. I see Hojlund has not yet convinced the Manchester United fans.
Let's wait and see what Hojlund does to prove his bravery, convince Manchester United fans and be proud of Ten Hag when he did not choose the wrong person.

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July 29, 2023, 11:58:44 PM
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Liverpool is trying to get mbappe as loan from PSG but i don't even think PSG wanna give mbappe's remaining contract as loan to the liverpool. PSG will prefer to sell him as permanent status instead of giving him to the liverpool as a loan. It's a trick by liverpool.
Mbappe will not move to Liverpool. This story will end up like just every other story about where Mbappe will end up. Real Madrid is the destination that Mbappe wants to get to, but along the way to the club, the choice of club to play for is difficult. Mbappe does not fit the Liverpool style of play even if it is for just one season, Liverpool are just trying their chance to see if it will work, but it won't.

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July 30, 2023, 12:47:27 AM
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Liverpool is trying to get mbappe as loan from PSG but i don't even think PSG wanna give mbappe's remaining contract as loan to the liverpool. PSG will prefer to sell him as permanent status instead of giving him to the liverpool as a loan. It's a trick by liverpool.
Mbappe will not move to Liverpool. This story will end up like just every other story about where Mbappe will end up. Real Madrid is the destination that Mbappe wants to get to, but along the way to the club, the choice of club to play for is difficult. Mbappe does not fit the Liverpool style of play even if it is for just one season, Liverpool are just trying their chance to see if it will work, but it won't.

We shouldn't believe the rumors on this one the media just want to attract the attention of visitors without a clear source. As you said Mbappe will only move to Madrid no chance for any other club including Liverpool , if we look at Liverpool's transfer history their average budget each season is between 150 to 200 million and this season Liverpool have used 112 million then I'm sure they won't spend more and maybe Liverpool have closed their transfer book this season. Instead I even heard rumors that Moh Salah will move to Milan , is it true? I hope this is an empty rumour.

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July 30, 2023, 02:33:05 AM
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Mbappe will not move to Liverpool. This story will end up like just every other story about where Mbappe will end up. Real Madrid is the destination that Mbappe wants to get to, but along the way to the club, the choice of club to play for is difficult. Mbappe does not fit the Liverpool style of play even if it is for just one season, Liverpool are just trying their chance to see if it will work, but it won't.
Jurgen Klopp think of more players, and bringing Kylian Mbappe is simply a wrong choice. Liverpool planning on bringing Kylian Mbappe to Anfield, ofcourse its chance is very slim. Moreover, the parisians will not hold back, they definitely kern on selling Mbappe this summer because they can't hesitate to lose him on a free transfer next season. It would hugh loss for them and I would love to see the Frenchman play for the Los Blancos, they have what it takes to bring him over, he should just say the world and everything would be smooth for him.

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July 30, 2023, 03:11:35 AM
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Congratulations to Manchester United for completing the signing of Rasmus Hojlund finally. The details of the deal is said to be like 70 million euros transfer fee with add-ons. It is going to be a five-year deal for the Red Devils. Hojlund has been keen on joining Manchester United more than the other candidates reportedly.

But as I said before there is still a question mark about his future performance. He hasn't been very impressive just as Haaland was before joining Manchester City for example. Hojlund is also said to have a quite big potential but he needs to prove this to everyone.
Hojlund also received strong interest from PSG. However, his priority destination is still Old Trafford. He still wants to play for Man Utd. With a transfer fee of 70 million euros, it is entirely suitable for a potential young player like Hojlund. But is Manchester United too risky to bring in a young player to fill the void left by Cristiano Ronaldo? Or is Ten Hag still leaving that space for an unexploded blockbuster. I see Hojlund has not yet convinced the Manchester United fans.
Let's wait and see what Hojlund does to prove his bravery, convince Manchester United fans and be proud of Ten Hag when he did not choose the wrong person.
You could see that a striker has been one of Manchester United's top priorities this summer having strengthened in midfielder and goalkeeper after signing Mason Mount and Andre Onana respectively. I think with the frequent injuries struggles to Martial, Ten Hag has always wanted a new forward to bolster his attack and indicated this week that the club is close to securing one, and they have gotten a good striker that has high ceiling. I trust Ten Hag to bring out the monster in him and make him a proper striker.
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