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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
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Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
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June 03, 2024, 05:37:18 PM

I don't think Erik ten Hag would escape a sack if Man Utd continue with their abysmal performance early next season, infact he is on the verge of being sacked had Man Utd lost the FA cup against Man City fortunately he survived and was given another chance as the club is playing in Europa league next season, personally I was disappointed with Erik ten Hag late performance in charge of the club as Man Utd nosedived from top position of the league to few position above mid table while Chelsea overtook them, Man Utd is big club and needed to be at their best based on the huge investment on quality players yet the team struggles due to bad tactics deployed by their manager.
Sometimes,they might still want to give him a contract,I mean,he wasn't that bad anyway,he won the FA cup,which made them qualify for the Europa league next season.It will be bad if they should sack him, because I still think he can make amends at the places he made mistakes last year,I still see that if Ten Hag determines to win a game,he can do it,taken an instance from his last game against Manchester City.He promised winning that game,and he ended up winning the game,which shows he can do so well when he wants to.The club should just give him time.
If you fire Ten Hag, you can revive Manchester United to win many titles, so maybe the management will consider that well. The problem is that Manchester United has long-term plans with Ten Hag so it is very likely that Ten Hag will be retained instead of firing him and looking for a replacement.

I know there is no guarantee that Ten Hag will live long at Manchester United as a coach, I mean he is still very likely to be fired like several previous coaches if the targets expected by Manchester United are not achieved. Qualifying for the Europa League by winning the FA Cup is a great achievement from Ten Hag, but Manchester United will be expected to win more.

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June 03, 2024, 05:45:53 PM

Sometimes,they might still want to give him a contract,I mean,he wasn't that bad anyway,he won the FA cup,which made them qualify for the Europa league next season.It will be bad if they should sack him, because I still think he can make amends at the places he made mistakes last year,I still see that if Ten Hag determines to win a game,he can do it,taken an instance from his last game against Manchester City.He promised winning that game,and he ended up winning the game,which shows he can do so well when he wants to.The club should just give him time.
Winning the FA Cup should not guarantee Ten Hag staying at Manchester United as a coach, the FA trophy is not a trophy that is indeed very prestigious and made must Manchester United spend almost 350 million euros in the last two seasons, qualifying for the Europa League can indeed be a plus for Ten Hag but I think being ranked 8 this season is something very bad for Manchester United,  Two seasons with a lot of money budgeted is of course enough for Ten Hag at Old Trafford, the management has given enough time to Ten Hag but in fact he has not been able to lift Manchester United's performance so far, so it is indeed better for Manchester United to find another better coach next season.

Manchester United managed to win some games against big teams, but I think they also have to be able to win games whoever the opponent is in order to compete in the championship, I think when ten hag wants then he can win those games as you said, then has he only wanted to win from the big teams and didn't want to win from the mediocre teams?

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June 03, 2024, 05:51:53 PM

Regarding Erik Ten Hag future with Manchester United, it seems like it will be safe or he will stay with Manchester United for a long time. This season, Erik Ten Hag failed to bring Manchester United to a top 4 finish, which of course was a big failure for Erik Ten Hag this season. But yes, on the one hand, there is no hot issue about Erik Ten Hag dismissal, so I think Manchester United management will still give Erik Ten Hag time next season.

Erik Ten Hag success in bringing Manchester United to the FA Cup trophy is of course an important point in Manchester United management's consideration of him. But currently there are quite a lot of good quality coaches who don't have new teams, such as Xavi, Tuchel and several other coaches. So, if Manchester United is looking for a new coach, they will definitely choose between the two coaches.

I think Ten Hag is being left for the only reason: it turned out to be impossible to find a replacement because there are either weak coaches on the market (like Ten Hag) or those who do not want to work at United. The Cup has nothing to do with this since it is a tertiary title, and in the main competitions United have historical failures: 8th place in the Premier League (with a negative goal difference) and last place in the Champions League group stage. It's sad, but I don't think we can expect anything good from United next season.
In as much as Erik Ten Hang didn't have a nice season, it doesn't make coaches like Xavi Hernandez and Thomas Tuchel better than him. If I am among Manchester United management, I cannot any of the above coaches above Erik Ten Hang.

Certainly, it seems Manchester United is not interested in dismissing their current coach. They might have concluded to give him one more season and make available players for him to try again this season. I personally believe that Erik would have done better if there were available players for him throughout the season. For the majority of the season he played without good defense, to the extent that Casemiro was occasionally made to play defense.

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June 03, 2024, 05:56:52 PM

Yes, it is difficult to understand with Boehly's plan, he should learn from his inappropriate decisions like last season. The current management should not adopt the old system like the Roman era which was known as a dictatorship, but there are good sides which must be the main consideration for building a better club. Now coaching has moved to Maresca and he has also been given the best coaching staff. Hopefully Maresca will get full support from the club board and he can work freely without interference.
I really don't understand everything that happened at Chelsea after Todd Boehly took over there. In fact, I was very surprised last season when Tuchel was fired. even though we all know Tuchel has brought glory to Chelsea. And the coaching changes have continued since last season and it all only makes the situation worse. And this season Pochettino improved it little by little and at the end of the season everything changed for the better thanks to Pochettino. But then Pochettino left. And yeah, I don't understand any of that. Honestly, at first I thought that Boehly had learned a lot from the bad results that Chelsea got last season. Because I see Pochettino making good results this season. But well now my assumptions seem to have changed again. And yes, it can be said that I am still quite disappointed with Pochettino's departure.

It's very hard to understand what todd boehly wanted from the coach. He was always replacing the coach anytime. This is even more frequently compared to the what abramovich did when he was still chelsea's owner. Im not even doubting it considering the fact that boehly is always changing the plan for the club.



The way the Chelsea ownership group tried to persuade themselves that Maresca was the best option for the team truly surprised me because it's clear they never learnt from their mistakes. They are repeating something old that happened last season when chelsea signed potter.
I was also witnessing chelsea ownership group said the same thing when Chelsea hired Potter from Brighton as a new caretaker, after which the club suffered.

Their mistakes never teach them anything. I'm not sure if Chelsea will be able to compete in the next season. Maresca may be doing some adjustments as a preparation to face a new season. i'm still feeling dubious.
Let's hope maresca to give his best for the club. The players need to adapt with the new gameplay.

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June 03, 2024, 06:12:05 PM

I think personally it would be the other way round, Pochettino will be more successful compared to Ten Hag if he managed United because they really fell out by ending below Chelsea.
Every coach will certainly be great if he has a productive main squad, it doesn't matter if it's Pochettino or Tenhag if it is not supported by a productive main squad of players it will also be useless, we can indeed see that Chelsea is much better than Manchester United in the EPL this season but success It's not entirely because of the coach, if Pochettino replaces Ten Hag without financial support it will be useless because Manchester United needs to make a lot of changes because many of their players are really unproductive.

I think we all know that Pochettino being fired by Chelsea was a big mistake, that's why it will be difficult for Chelsea to achieve satisfactory results if management is too quick to make the decision to fire the coach, I don't think Pochettino is too bad for Chelsea because he has brought Chelsea to a high ranking. well in the EPL this season, if only Chelsea gave him the opportunity to stay until next season the results would definitely be satisfactory, Chelsea seems to be working hard again with their new coach and Manchester United has not yet made a decision about whether Ten Hag will be fired or retained.
Yes, the quality of squad available to the coach plays an important role on the outcome of the team in various leagues, if the team are quality enough probably at their own best they might achieve better results than a club with a better coach and less potential players.  If peradventure the both managers are to swap teams then Pochettino will do better managing United than Ten Hag on Chelsea, it's my own observation without being biased I always feel this connection between Pochettino and his players. Chelsea really made an awful decision letting him go so easy, he would have done better in more season to come. Manchester United are keeping Ten Hag for another season, let's see how he does this time.
I think Ten Hag lasted longer at Manchester United. I would also like Pochettino to be the person to manage a team full of success like Manchester United, because Ten Hag does not know the opportunities he has. He can't use it correctly. I think they should be dismissed from that team and move on with a better candidate. I don't understand why Manchester United management is giving him a chance because he can't manage as well as Arteta. Arteta is doing everything for Arsenal and it is understandable that he did not provide continuity, but I think Ten Hag is managing terribly.
Ten Hag is not going anywhere at least for 1st 10-15 matches of EPL and he is doing well yes he cannot get the best from some of the players but he did good for the team and ManU management is happy with him after Man U beat Man city in final and won the cup.

maybe I'm wrong in my way of seeing things, in my way of seeing, a team like Manchester United that has the money to be able to sign the best players in the world, should be candidates for the title every season and should be a team They would have gone far in the European Champions League, but what we see today from Manchester United is a disgrace. Even teams with less funds than Manchester United can do better in the Premier League, an example of what I'm talking about is the case of Aston Villa who finished in the top 4



Aston Villa proved that when a team has a good coach, even with limited resources, it can achieve great things, and they managed to finish in a position to access the European Champions League, while a team like Manchester United, which has great financial resources, was unable to do so. finishing in the top 4, it is clear that the Manchester United coach is not good enough, but for some strange reason it seems that the Manchester United management does not see this. my question:

What is the goal of Manchester United?




Aston Villa agree on deal with Luton Town to sign Ross Barkley


Fee now agreed between clubs, in the region of £5m.

Final part needed, medical and signature with player's side agreement now expected at the beginning of July.

Unai Emery wanted Barkley as experienced and quality player to improve the midfield ahead of UCL season.




source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7wRN-jIo89/

After Aston Villa had an excellent campaign last season, the Aston Villa coach continues to improve the squad even further, probably so that it can continue with a good campaign next season in the Premier League and be able to go far in the European Champions League.

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June 03, 2024, 06:12:17 PM

In as much as Erik Ten Hang didn't have a nice season, it doesn't make coaches like Xavi Hernandez and Thomas Tuchel better than him. If I am among Manchester United management, I cannot any of the above coaches above Erik Ten Hang.

Certainly, it seems Manchester United is not interested in dismissing their current coach. They might have concluded to give him one more season and make available players for him to try again this season. I personally believe that Erik would have done better if there were available players for him throughout the season. For the majority of the season he played without good defense, to the extent that Casemiro was occasionally made to play defense.
If we talk about statistics, Xavi and Tuchel are the two best coaches compared to Ten Hag who only won the FA Cup title. Here are the third statistics in 4 different competitions for each coach:

Source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/

  • Xavi recorded 53 matches this season with 35 wins, 8 draws, 10 losses. (La Liga, Champions League, Copa Del Rey, Super Copa).
  • Tuchel 49 matches with 31 wins, 6 draws, 12 losses. (Bundesliga, Champions League, DFB Pokal, DFL Supercup).
  • Ten Hag had 52 matches with 26 wins, 7 draws and 19 losses. (Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup, EFL Cup).

Xavi and Tuchel both succeeded in getting their teams to qualify for the Champions League next season even though both had to face the fact that they were fired by their respective teams. Ten Hag is not better than the other two coaches you want to compare, but Ten Hag was lucky to beat Manchester City in the FA Cup final this season. I'm talking facts about all three coaches, so I don't think Ten Hag is better.

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The decision of the management of Manchester United will be clearer in a couple of days because the coach is still insisting that the board makes that decision early enough before the transfer market opens up so that it will not put the position of the club at a disadvantage in trying to get players who will be helpful to them in the campaign of next season. Erik Ten Hag may be good for them or may not be good for them, they need to make their decision now and stand by it because other teams in the league are already making progress.

Seriously they are taking this matter way too long to make a decision clubs like Liverpool easily moved, Chelsea also got a new manager and they will prepare for the summer transfer, subsequently the next season too which gives this coaches ample of time to make preparations. But here we are still discussing Ten Hag in or Ten Hag out, seriously this club is definitely having a problem that is not just about the manager but also the top members of the board it self. This is exactly same thing they did when the season started before selling some shares of the club. When sir Jimmy came in and was announced to handled football related issues seriously I thought the whole thing of delay decision making has ended, I was even convinced when he started the board members clearing and bringing in some people who were more into football but yet we are back to how United has been in the past decade; slow in every thing.

It is Crystal clear that the fans wouldn’t want Ten Hag to stay if not for anything at least with the options they are having currently in the market. If you ask me i will say that I don’t think any of them betters Ten Hag and it will be a drawback to start rebuilding again with another manager which will take another season or two but with Ten Hag I think just a Season now is ok for him to implement his style

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June 03, 2024, 06:48:43 PM

I think personally it would be the other way round, Pochettino will be more successful compared to Ten Hag if he managed United because they really fell out by ending below Chelsea.
Every coach will certainly be great if he has a productive main squad, it doesn't matter if it's Pochettino or Tenhag if it is not supported by a productive main squad of players it will also be useless, we can indeed see that Chelsea is much better than Manchester United in the EPL this season but success It's not entirely because of the coach, if Pochettino replaces Ten Hag without financial support it will be useless because Manchester United needs to make a lot of changes because many of their players are really unproductive.

I think we all know that Pochettino being fired by Chelsea was a big mistake, that's why it will be difficult for Chelsea to achieve satisfactory results if management is too quick to make the decision to fire the coach, I don't think Pochettino is too bad for Chelsea because he has brought Chelsea to a high ranking. well in the EPL this season, if only Chelsea gave him the opportunity to stay until next season the results would definitely be satisfactory, Chelsea seems to be working hard again with their new coach and Manchester United has not yet made a decision about whether Ten Hag will be fired or retained.
Yes, the quality of squad available to the coach plays an important role on the outcome of the team in various leagues, if the team are quality enough probably at their own best they might achieve better results than a club with a better coach and less potential players.  If peradventure the both managers are to swap teams then Pochettino will do better managing United than Ten Hag on Chelsea, it's my own observation without being biased I always feel this connection between Pochettino and his players. Chelsea really made an awful decision letting him go so easy, he would have done better in more season to come. Manchester United are keeping Ten Hag for another season, let's see how he does this time.
I think Ten Hag lasted longer at Manchester United. I would also like Pochettino to be the person to manage a team full of success like Manchester United, because Ten Hag does not know the opportunities he has. He can't use it correctly. I think they should be dismissed from that team and move on with a better candidate. I don't understand why Manchester United management is giving him a chance because he can't manage as well as Arteta. Arteta is doing everything for Arsenal and it is understandable that he did not provide continuity, but I think Ten Hag is managing terribly.
Ten Hag is not going anywhere at least for 1st 10-15 matches of EPL and he is doing well yes he cannot get the best from some of the players but he did good for the team and ManU management is happy with him after Man U beat Man city in final and won the cup.

maybe I'm wrong in my way of seeing things, in my way of seeing, a team like Manchester United that has the money to be able to sign the best players in the world, should be candidates for the title every season and should be a team They would have gone far in the European Champions League, but what we see today from Manchester United is a disgrace. Even teams with less funds than Manchester United can do better in the Premier League, an example of what I'm talking about is the case of Aston Villa who finished in the top 4



Aston Villa proved that when a team has a good coach, even with limited resources, it can achieve great things, and they managed to finish in a position to access the European Champions League, while a team like Manchester United, which has great financial resources, was unable to do so. finishing in the top 4, it is clear that the Manchester United coach is not good enough, but for some strange reason it seems that the Manchester United management does not see this. my question:

What is the goal of Manchester United?




Aston Villa agree on deal with Luton Town to sign Ross Barkley


Fee now agreed between clubs, in the region of £5m.

Final part needed, medical and signature with player's side agreement now expected at the beginning of July.

Unai Emery wanted Barkley as experienced and quality player to improve the midfield ahead of UCL season.




source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7wRN-jIo89/

After Aston Villa had an excellent campaign last season, the Aston Villa coach continues to improve the squad even further, probably so that it can continue with a good campaign next season in the Premier League and be able to go far in the European Champions League.
The point you raise is perfectly valid and the performance given by Aston Villa is simply amazing but the talk is not about the whole team or management it's only about Ten Hag i just said that Ten Hag will surely give his best and you can see the amazing Man U comeback.

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Every coach will certainly be great if he has a productive main squad, it doesn't matter if it's Pochettino or Tenhag if it is not supported by a productive main squad of players it will also be useless, we can indeed see that Chelsea is much better than Manchester United in the EPL this season but success It's not entirely because of the coach, if Pochettino replaces Ten Hag without financial support it will be useless because Manchester United needs to make a lot of changes because many of their players are really unproductive.

I think we all know that Pochettino being fired by Chelsea was a big mistake, that's why it will be difficult for Chelsea to achieve satisfactory results if management is too quick to make the decision to fire the coach, I don't think Pochettino is too bad for Chelsea because he has brought Chelsea to a high ranking. well in the EPL this season, if only Chelsea gave him the opportunity to stay until next season the results would definitely be satisfactory, Chelsea seems to be working hard again with their new coach and Manchester United has not yet made a decision about whether Ten Hag will be fired or retained.
Yes, the quality of squad available to the coach plays an important role on the outcome of the team in various leagues, if the team are quality enough probably at their own best they might achieve better results than a club with a better coach and less potential players.  If peradventure the both managers are to swap teams then Pochettino will do better managing United than Ten Hag on Chelsea, it's my own observation without being biased I always feel this connection between Pochettino and his players. Chelsea really made an awful decision letting him go so easy, he would have done better in more season to come. Manchester United are keeping Ten Hag for another season, let's see how he does this time.
I don't know, I do not think that firing Pochettino was a big mistake, I feel like he did not do all that well with the team he was given. I get that they are getting young players for overpriced offers so that they could build a team that would play together for a long time, and that could actually be a great idea on the long run, and they are avoiding the financial fair play hit by just giving them very long contracts as well.

However, unless they make something now, like at least be in UCL or something, then they are not going to get anything at all, being a loser for a few years doesn't make you great, you need to have good results, to aim for great results, you do not get bad results to aim for greater results.

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June 03, 2024, 08:50:05 PM

Yes, it is difficult to understand with Boehly's plan, he should learn from his inappropriate decisions like last season. The current management should not adopt the old system like the Roman era which was known as a dictatorship, but there are good sides which must be the main consideration for building a better club. Now coaching has moved to Maresca and he has also been given the best coaching staff. Hopefully Maresca will get full support from the club board and he can work freely without interference.
I really don't understand everything that happened at Chelsea after Todd Boehly took over there. In fact, I was very surprised last season when Tuchel was fired. even though we all know Tuchel has brought glory to Chelsea. And the coaching changes have continued since last season and it all only makes the situation worse. And this season Pochettino improved it little by little and at the end of the season everything changed for the better thanks to Pochettino. But then Pochettino left. And yeah, I don't understand any of that. Honestly, at first I thought that Boehly had learned a lot from the bad results that Chelsea got last season. Because I see Pochettino making good results this season. But well now my assumptions seem to have changed again. And yes, it can be said that I am still quite disappointed with Pochettino's departure.

First of all, Chelsea has made some really terrible decisions with choosing the coaches. When they brought in Potter if I remember correctly they had the option to choose Zidane. I have no idea why they decided to do that. That was a very bad decision taken by them. And they have also chosen the players pretty badly. Things started to look very bad when the Lukaku transfer did not work. That was 97 million by the way.

In this season, even though they started very badly and at one point it was actually possible for them to finish in the relegation zone, they had been able to make a good comeback towards the end and finished the sixth position on the table. I thought that was great. I also thought that the Chelsea authority was going to give Mauricio Pochettino another chance after such a comeback. There was a possibility that Pochettino could have brought in better results in the next season. Now they are going to get a new coach and the same thing is probably going to repeat. Enzo Maresca is not going to be able to bring in good results consistently and he is also going to get replaced.

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Yes, the quality of squad available to the coach plays an important role on the outcome of the team in various leagues, if the team are quality enough probably at their own best they might achieve better results than a club with a better coach and less potential players.  If peradventure the both managers are to swap teams then Pochettino will do better managing United than Ten Hag on Chelsea, it's my own observation without being biased I always feel this connection between Pochettino and his players. Chelsea really made an awful decision letting him go so easy, he would have done better in more season to come. Manchester United are keeping Ten Hag for another season, let's see how he does this time.

The owners of Chelsea are not having any patience, they want results because they have spend too much money on the club but they are not seeing their money being used very well to better Chelsea as a football club. Pochettino would not have taken Chelsea to the level the owners of Chelsea want to see Chelsea playing at. There is no time to give the coach that chance to build up the team slowly, they want a fast response and for Chelsea to be playing with the top clubs. The sacking of pochettino is not going to be a regret by the board because he is not the right man for the job in spite of how well Chelsea were playing at the end of the season but by then it was already late because he did not start strong when the fans and everybody were expecting him to use his experience to make the players play good football.

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The owners of Chelsea are not having any patience, they want results because they have spend too much money on the club but they are not seeing their money being used very well to better Chelsea as a football club. Pochettino would not have taken Chelsea to the level the owners of Chelsea want to see Chelsea playing at. There is no time to give the coach that chance to build up the team slowly, they want a fast response and for Chelsea to be playing with the top clubs. The sacking of pochettino is not going to be a regret by the board because he is not the right man for the job in spite of how well Chelsea were playing at the end of the season but by then it was already late because he did not start strong when the fans and everybody were expecting him to use his experience to make the players play good football.
But the fact is that no team can be strong in just one season. The Chelsea owner is really impatient, I remember the dismissals in the Abramovich era and in the Todd era were very different. The dismissal of coaches in the Roman era was indeed due to the coach's performance declining, whereas in the Todd era it was not due to a decrease or increase in the performance of the coach who had built chemistry with his players, but because of the business which was said to be long term, Pochettino was finally fired.

I also want to compare with other teams like Man United, Erik Ten Hag has been coaching Man United for two years, he was also given all the players he wanted in all positions, but instead of being good he got worse, even ranked 8th, the club's worst ranking ever. EPL history but still maintained. . On the other hand, Pochettino has only been training for 1 year, almost all of the players are new and young. Pochettino didn't even participate in recruiting players, the start of the season was ruined but at the end of the season he started to see a little progress but instead he was fired because Pochettino wanted to participate in recruiting players. Pochettino's dismissal was honestly very unfortunate at a time when Chelsea was starting to improve because there was already chemistry between the players. Firing Pochettino is not a guarantee that Chelsea will be better next season.

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June 03, 2024, 11:01:43 PM

Yes, the quality of squad available to the coach plays an important role on the outcome of the team in various leagues, if the team are quality enough probably at their own best they might achieve better results than a club with a better coach and less potential players.  If peradventure the both managers are to swap teams then Pochettino will do better managing United than Ten Hag on Chelsea, it's my own observation without being biased I always feel this connection between Pochettino and his players. Chelsea really made an awful decision letting him go so easy, he would have done better in more season to come. Manchester United are keeping Ten Hag for another season, let's see how he does this time.

The owners of Chelsea are not having any patience, they want results because they have spend too much money on the club but they are not seeing their money being used very well to better Chelsea as a football club. Pochettino would not have taken Chelsea to the level the owners of Chelsea want to see Chelsea playing at. There is no time to give the coach that chance to build up the team slowly, they want a fast response and for Chelsea to be playing with the top clubs. The sacking of pochettino is not going to be a regret by the board because he is not the right man for the job in spite of how well Chelsea were playing at the end of the season but by then it was already late because he did not start strong when the fans and everybody were expecting him to use his experience to make the players play good football.
If they want to see good result in the team. They should remove the power of buying player by themselves and give that power to any coach that would be assigned next season. Football have change, you just dont buy players because of hype and how he had been performing in other teams. You buy player that would execute your plans on the peach perfectly. I believe every coach has a unique strategy and pattern , which make them different other coaches. And for you to successfully execute those patterns you need players suitable to do that. This is the reason why Manchester City and Arsenal remains the best currently in the EPL.

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June 03, 2024, 11:54:40 PM

In as much as Erik Ten Hang didn't have a nice season, it doesn't make coaches like Xavi Hernandez and Thomas Tuchel better than him. If I am among Manchester United management, I cannot any of the above coaches above Erik Ten Hang.

Certainly, it seems Manchester United is not interested in dismissing their current coach. They might have concluded to give him one more season and make available players for him to try again this season. I personally believe that Erik would have done better if there were available players for him throughout the season. For the majority of the season he played without good defense, to the extent that Casemiro was occasionally made to play defense.
As you said, they should be in the top position, but currently Manchester United is not in their best form. The coach is still having difficulty finding a good strategy to win every match. It is possible that the coach already has many names of players he wants to buy, but it is possible that Manchester United management will not provide support to Erik ten Hag. This means he is having difficulty maximizing the strengths of the players he has. Erik ten Hag must make good use of this one season opportunity at Manchester United to show that Erik ten Hag's strategy still has the potential to bring Manchester United to victory.

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Sometimes,they might still want to give him a contract,I mean,he wasn't that bad anyway,he won the FA cup,which made them qualify for the Europa league next season.It will be bad if they should sack him, because I still think he can make amends at the places he made mistakes last year,I still see that if Ten Hag determines to win a game,he can do it,taken an instance from his last game against Manchester City.He promised winning that game,and he ended up winning the game,which shows he can do so well when he wants to.The club should just give him time.
Winning the FA Cup should not guarantee Ten Hag staying at Manchester United as a coach, the FA trophy is not a trophy that is indeed very prestigious and made must Manchester United spend almost 350 million euros in the last two seasons, qualifying for the Europa League can indeed be a plus for Ten Hag but I think being ranked 8 this season is something very bad for Manchester United,  Two seasons with a lot of money budgeted is of course enough for Ten Hag at Old Trafford, the management has given enough time to Ten Hag but in fact he has not been able to lift Manchester United's performance so far, so it is indeed better for Manchester United to find another better coach next season.

Manchester United managed to win some games against big teams, but I think they also have to be able to win games whoever the opponent is in order to compete in the championship, I think when ten hag wants then he can win those games as you said, then has he only wanted to win from the big teams and didn't want to win from the mediocre teams?
Actually, I agree with what you said, but on the other hand, Ten Hag has shown that he is at least capable of giving Manchester United title this season in its condition, which has been widely discussed as team with declining performance.
But I also really want to see Manchester United be like before, where they can dominate the Premier League very well and become tough rival for them strong team with dominance for several season, seeing Ten Hag performance also raises doubts about whether Manchester United can do it.
Getting tickets to the Europa League is also an important reference for next season because this could give them the opportunity to appear in important competitions other than the Premier League, but it seems that this does not guarantee whether Ten Hag will survive.

Rumors that have surfaced again say that it is not yet certain whether Ten Hag will actually leave at the end of this season or get the opportunity to continue his performance as Manchester United coach.
I still waiting for certainty about Ten Hag future fate with Manchester United because changes are very likely to occur at unexpected times, but it cannot be denied that there are indeed several coaches who are worthy of being able to replace Ten Hag.

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But the fact is that no team can be strong in just one season. The Chelsea owner is really impatient, I remember the dismissals in the Abramovich era and in the Todd era were very different. The dismissal of coaches in the Roman era was indeed due to the coach's performance declining, whereas in the Todd era it was not due to a decrease or increase in the performance of the coach who had built chemistry with his players, but because of the business which was said to be long term, Pochettino was finally fired.

I also want to compare with other teams like Man United, Erik Ten Hag has been coaching Man United for two years, he was also given all the players he wanted in all positions, but instead of being good he got worse, even ranked 8th, the club's worst ranking ever. EPL history but still maintained. . On the other hand, Pochettino has only been training for 1 year, almost all of the players are new and young. Pochettino didn't even participate in recruiting players, the start of the season was ruined but at the end of the season he started to see a little progress but instead he was fired because Pochettino wanted to participate in recruiting players. Pochettino's dismissal was honestly very unfortunate at a time when Chelsea was starting to improve because there was already chemistry between the players. Firing Pochettino is not a guarantee that Chelsea will be better next season.
Trues, its difficult for one team become strong and has consistency performance in one season actually Chelsea made huge rotation since Pochettino arrived by selling many senior players. Build up the teams with dominance new players need chemistry and Pochettino taking almost one season to make Chelsea has good performance exactly few months left before end of this season success reach the top sixth standings position. I doubt with new manager for next season Chelsea has better performance than Pochettino because need time how to play as one team and Enzo Maresca will make some rotation with signing new players.

Chelsea management lack patience with progress and I don't think bad getting top sixth standings position behind some important players since the early season begin got injury. Pochettino have working well but impatience from management after Chelsea failed reach the top fourth standings make them sacked Pochettino and replacing by Enzo Maresca as Leicester City head coach last season after success promoting to Premier League.

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In as much as Erik Ten Hang didn't have a nice season, it doesn't make coaches like Xavi Hernandez and Thomas Tuchel better than him. If I am among Manchester United management, I cannot any of the above coaches above Erik Ten Hang.

Certainly, it seems Manchester United is not interested in dismissing their current coach. They might have concluded to give him one more season and make available players for him to try again this season. I personally believe that Erik would have done better if there were available players for him throughout the season. For the majority of the season he played without good defense, to the extent that Casemiro was occasionally made to play defense.
Why dismissed Erik Ten Hag when he has successfully won the FA Cup for Manchester United? We know how desperate Manchester United fans criticized the manager and lay down complaints about his incompetence but the present days, they even go as far to booed him during crucial games and Manchester derby. Erik Ten Hag have faced alot in the hands of the supporters, putting him under pressure but somehow he managed to survived and deliver the club when everyone thought he's definitely going to lose.

Erik Ten Hag is going nowhere and staying in Old Trafford, thereby retaining his managerial role as headcoach for the club, we should expects more angling sectors and improvements from the Red Devils because there will be presence of massive signings.

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Yes, the quality of squad available to the coach plays an important role on the outcome of the team in various leagues, if the team are quality enough probably at their own best they might achieve better results than a club with a better coach and less potential players.  If peradventure the both managers are to swap teams then Pochettino will do better managing United than Ten Hag on Chelsea, it's my own observation without being biased I always feel this connection between Pochettino and his players. Chelsea really made an awful decision letting him go so easy, he would have done better in more season to come. Manchester United are keeping Ten Hag for another season, let's see how he does this time.

The owners of Chelsea are not having any patience, they want results because they have spend too much money on the club but they are not seeing their money being used very well to better Chelsea as a football club. Pochettino would not have taken Chelsea to the level the owners of Chelsea want to see Chelsea playing at. There is no time to give the coach that chance to build up the team slowly, they want a fast response and for Chelsea to be playing with the top clubs. The sacking of pochettino is not going to be a regret by the board because he is not the right man for the job in spite of how well Chelsea were playing at the end of the season but by then it was already late because he did not start strong when the fans and everybody were expecting him to use his experience to make the players play good football.

I doubt the patience had anything to do with it considering the fact that if the owner is always thinking about money. Chelsea had let Pochettino one more season to excel but he brough a few improvements but i think that's good enough. The owner of Chelsea is the primary issue since he now views his team as a means of generating income and this is why boehly is trying to push chelsea and coach to help him build the good performance. Todd can sell their players then. He totally differe with abra which was seeing owning the club as his hobby. It is not the issue of winning a prize as quickly as feasible. The club is concentrated on player development so that it may sell the players for a great profit.
Since Chelsea, this has been their primary issue. Todd had been putting up a lot of effort to make it happen. The most annoying part was that he was attracting so many players with average pricing of 100 million. This is the worst Chelsea choice ever.

Todd Boehly had to start from scratch again after he decided to replace pochettino. Chelsea was improving last season and is now on a good trend. I hope Maresca will be cooking something fresh for the club. Chelsea appointed him recently.
If maresca brings Chelsea down from its current position and im sure the owner might face criticism from many fans considering the worst decision from the owners. They had the owner so angry. Todd Boehly often revised his work in chelsea and this is really inappropriate thing for whole of blues fans. For Chelsea to become a successful team, this is just unacceptable.

I still have hope that if Maresca fails, they will take action for this like recruiting a good coach to manage the club. They will discover to stay away from hiring the trash coach again like this time.

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In as much as Erik Ten Hang didn't have a nice season, it doesn't make coaches like Xavi Hernandez and Thomas Tuchel better than him. If I am among Manchester United management, I cannot any of the above coaches above Erik Ten Hang.

Certainly, it seems Manchester United is not interested in dismissing their current coach. They might have concluded to give him one more season and make available players for him to try again this season. I personally believe that Erik would have done better if there were available players for him throughout the season. For the majority of the season he played without good defense, to the extent that Casemiro was occasionally made to play defense.
Why dismissed Erik Ten Hag when he has successfully won the FA Cup for Manchester United? We know how desperate Manchester United fans criticized the manager and lay down complaints about his incompetence but the present days, they even go as far to booed him during crucial games and Manchester derby. Erik Ten Hag have faced alot in the hands of the supporters, putting him under pressure but somehow he managed to survived and deliver the club when everyone thought he's definitely going to lose.

Erik Ten Hag is going nowhere and staying in Old Trafford, thereby retaining his managerial role as headcoach for the club, we should expects more angling sectors and improvements from the Red Devils because there will be presence of massive signings.

I think, Erik Ten Hag has positive things to offer to Manchester united next season if their management can give him only nex season to prove to them and I believe he will definitely improve the team, because he has used this FA cup to prove what will going to happen next season. Many people thought that Manchester city will going to win the FA cup, but it was a great surprised to those that condemned Erik Ten Hag as a low skill manager to join Manchester united to celebrate for the victory, because they defeated Manchester City 2-3 for the favour of Manchester united to embraced the title through the help of their manager. I know that Manchester united management will not going to sack Erik Ten Hag in this season than to bring in new potential players that will help the team to achieve their goal next season which is very important for Manchester united to win the title.

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Why dismissed Erik Ten Hag when he has successfully won the FA Cup for Manchester United? We know how desperate Manchester United fans criticized the manager and lay down complaints about his incompetence but the present days, they even go as far to booed him during crucial games and Manchester derby. Erik Ten Hag have faced alot in the hands of the supporters, putting him under pressure but somehow he managed to survived and deliver the club when everyone thought he's definitely going to lose.

Erik Ten Hag is going nowhere and staying in Old Trafford, thereby retaining his managerial role as headcoach for the club, we should expects more angling sectors and improvements from the Red Devils because there will be presence of massive signings.
I assume that if Man United can bring in a better manager, it is likely that Ten Hag will be fired, but if not, Ten Hag will be retained. Management and club officials have reportedly almost finished evaluating the team performance this season. Ten Hag is indeed worth keeping, because he managed to present the FA Cup trophy, even though in the Premier League Man United finished in 8th place in the standings. Man United fans should actually be proud, because their club is luckier than other elite clubs such as Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham, who ended the season without any trophies.

On the other hand, if Ten Hag stays then Jadon Sancho will most likely not return, he still refuses to apologize to Ten Hag. Overall, whoever becomes Man United manager next season, adding depth to the squad is a must. Man United management must streamline the squad, release most of the players who have minimal contribution, and recruit potential young players. Of course they have to act carefully when entering the transfer window, so as not to buy random players and make it look like a failed investment.

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