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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.5%)
Total Voters: 194

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June 13, 2024, 07:14:20 AM

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Have you forgotten that Liverpool did not participate in the Champions League this year?  Wink
A place is not guaranteed to anyone, if we were confident in Liverpool it would be an easy +53% per annum. By the way, a change of coach is a very serious factor that can strengthen the team or, on the contrary, weaken it. If I had made an outright bet, I would have chosen a different outcome.
Yeah Liverpool only play in the Europa League because they finished in 5th place last season and that was their worst achievement in the previous 5 seasons, now Liverpool must start everything with a new method and strategy as you said the impact could be better or vice versa. Apart from that, several of Liverpool's mainstay players are heading towards retirement meaning this situation is really not easy and honestly I don't expect more from their performance with a new coach at least in the first season.

I don't think, Liverpool have challenge in the area of manager if you view the manager performance since he joined Liverpool, because their manager is still trying to make sure Liverpool end up in a good position in every tournament which people have experienced it last season third position and this season the same position. If Liverpool managements sign in a new manager in this season, it will be difficult for the team to perform well next season, because the new manager will start at fresh to build the players to a high standard before they will begin to display excellent performance. There are some players that are still in Liverpool based on their current manager, and anything that will make their managements to sack their manager, they will leave the team once their contract expire and it will make the team to experience poor performance.

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June 13, 2024, 07:21:04 AM

Yeah Liverpool only play in the Europa League because they finished in 5th place last season and that was their worst achievement in the previous 5 seasons, now Liverpool must start everything with a new method and strategy as you said the impact could be better or vice versa. Apart from that, several of Liverpool's mainstay players are heading towards retirement meaning this situation is really not easy and honestly I don't expect more from their performance with a new coach at least in the first season.
It wouldn't be an important problem for Liverpool if they started from the bottom again, Liverpool needs experience like this to form a new strategy that might give Liverpool victory in the next match. When many Liverpool players are about to retire, they will take advantage of the opportunity to buy new players at a young age. In this way, the strategy used by Liverpool will have the potential to put on a good show in the next match.
I hope this plan goes smoothly as mentioned because if Liverpool should start all over again they’ll definitely find it difficult to meet up and sometimes the problem coming from old members doesn’t necessary mean all those players are involved, you might be surprised if just two or three old players don’t just want to follow the team but their own strategy. Definitely bringing new players can help matters more especially when the team is expecting a new coach, Arne Slot is not a bad choice the problem is if the players are willing to follow his pattern making every step and effort he put go smoothly, remember the coach and players must be in one mind before they can accomplish any goal.


Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.

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June 13, 2024, 07:30:30 AM

The problem with judging Ten Hag is the problem with how you position United. If as a top club with temporary problems and the goal of returning to the throne, then Ten Hag is definitely a bad coach (even Solskjaer was closer to the title). If we consider United an ordinary average team for which playing in the Europa League is the norm, and getting into the Champions League is happiness (just getting there, not winning), then Ten Hag is a completely suitable coach.
Regardless of various assumptions, Man United is still an elite Premier League club, this is proven by the way they maintain their existence by spending large budgets in the transfer window, especially during Ten Hag tenure as manager. Management and club officials have decided that Ten Hag will be retained for next season, which means they are ready to act and take all risks with Ten Hag. Of course there will be a major overhaul in the Man United squad, with Ten Hag apparently set to let go of most of the players who have minimal contribution, for Sancho perhaps the door to returning to Old Trafford is closed.

Meanwhile, it feels like it's still too early to guess Man United chances of success next season, because we haven't seen how they execute their plans in the transfer window. Personally, to be fair, I would rank them as one of the elite clubs, who still have hopes of becoming a team challenging for the title next season. Who knows, Ten Hag could be lucky enough to meet fans expectations, or at least be able to present one of the trophies next season.

I think the minimum acceptable result that is expected from a United coach is top 4, right? Here's how bookmakers see the teams' chances:

Manchester City - 1.10

Arsenal - 1.25

Liverpool - 1.53

Chelsea - 2.38

Newcastle United - 2.75

Manchester United - 3.00

Tottenham Hotspur - 3.00

Aston Villa - 4.00

So far, I see that United has dropped out of the list of elite clubs and will only fight with the underdogs, and even in that group it is not a favorite. It is unlikely that the appointment of another coach could change this picture much, but the fact remains: for United, getting into the top 4 is the end of dreams, their chances of winning the title are estimated at 1 in 26.

Totally agree with you. Ten Hag has a lot of work to do in order to propel his club forward. Chelsea's rapid climb surprises me. It appears that bookmakers are once again confident in Chelsea to be very competitive in the upcoming season. Despite the fact that it has just changed coache, this has had little impact on the club's odds.
Getting a UCL spot is more than enough for Man United. It's because United was able to do so during Ten Hag's first season at Manchester United. He can do it again this season. I'm just wondering why Villa is now ranked lower than Tottenham or Newcastle United. VIlla's performance has been going up drastically under unay emery. They shall at very least above totenham and newcastle.

Is finishing in fourth place meaningless in terms of odds for villa? I thought the villa would be placed above Newcastle and Tottenham. It surprises me that Villa looks like an underdog club now.

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June 13, 2024, 07:33:24 AM

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Changing coaches is not a bad idea but changing a coach when the team is having a good performance is not good at all, Chelsea is having a good performance at the end of the season and what the team does is sack the coach, that is not good, to be honest, pochettino is trying his best to make sure the team improve and fight for a good position next season but at the end of the season they sacked him, Chelsea coach is not the problem of the team, although sometimes when a team is having good or bad performance the coach suppose to be blamed but pochettino is not the real problem of Chelsea performance, from the beginning of the season we all know how Chelsea player’s are having injuries including the new players they sign have been having injuries.

Chelsea has signed another coach who will lead the team if the season starts from my experience, they need to cooperate and there should be good communication between the players and coach because if the players don’t like the coach the team will not achieve what they want, if Chelsea can play the way they played at the end of last season they will be able to achieve something good, I didn’t say that they can win the league because any team that can win premier league title is going to be stronger than Manchester City and I don’t see that kind of performance of defeating Manchester City with Chelsea.
True, changing coaches is not bad thing but just look at how Todd Boehly does it, he is not satisfied when the coach fails to build Chelsea but on the other hand there is also dissatisfaction when the team has shown more significant development.
Everything has happened and basically Todd Boehly has quite high ego and it is even very difficult to guess what his thinking was to do all this while he was the owner of Chelsea.
Todd Boehly ambiguous decision is only in the way he makes decisions to always change coaches and I think things like this must be changed, he should really believe in the coach he thinks is the right one, otherwise Chelsea will never develop well.

Chelsea has been able to overcome the problem of players, they have many young players with potential, even some players who are older can still play well, task in developing Chelsea is actually to find the best strengths and make them more stable.

What really annoys me about this Todd boehly is that he always makes an unpopular choice, a choice of managers he knows that wouldn't do well or is not up to standard to come and coach Chelsea,  and if you pay close attention to why he is always hiring inferior coaches, it's because he is looking for the yes men, someone that will always agree to what ever he says or want even though it's actually the wrong thing to do.

Like in the case of Thomas tuchel, he always disagree with the decisions Todd boehly wanted to take regarding players transfer, which are not good for the team, so Todd boehly sacked him for not being the yes man, Mauricio pochettino went through the same experience and that was the main reason he was sacked, though he agreed in the first place of being the yes man, but during the cause of the season, he had some issues with Todd boehly, because they wanted to sell Gallagher, which Mauricio pochettino disagree with them on that move they wanted to take, so I don't think Chelsea will progress with this man Todd boehly in charge of the day to day running of the club, he is too clueless to handle a top team as Chelsea, till he is being replaced by a more competent person, I don't see Chelsea winning anything big in the next 10 years

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Changing coaches is not a bad idea but changing a coach when the team is having a good performance is not good at all, Chelsea is having a good performance at the end of the season and what the team does is sack the coach, that is not good, to be honest, pochettino is trying his best to make sure the team improve and fight for a good position next season but at the end of the season they sacked him, Chelsea coach is not the problem of the team, although sometimes when a team is having good or bad performance the coach suppose to be blamed but pochettino is not the real problem of Chelsea performance, from the beginning of the season we all know how Chelsea player’s are having injuries including the new players they sign have been having injuries.

Chelsea has signed another coach who will lead the team if the season starts from my experience, they need to cooperate and there should be good communication between the players and coach because if the players don’t like the coach the team will not achieve what they want, if Chelsea can play the way they played at the end of last season they will be able to achieve something good, I didn’t say that they can win the league because any team that can win premier league title is going to be stronger than Manchester City and I don’t see that kind of performance of defeating Manchester City with Chelsea.
True, changing coaches is not bad thing but just look at how Todd Boehly does it, he is not satisfied when the coach fails to build Chelsea but on the other hand there is also dissatisfaction when the team has shown more significant development.
Everything has happened and basically Todd Boehly has quite high ego and it is even very difficult to guess what his thinking was to do all this while he was the owner of Chelsea.
Todd Boehly ambiguous decision is only in the way he makes decisions to always change coaches and I think things like this must be changed, he should really believe in the coach he thinks is the right one, otherwise Chelsea will never develop well.

Chelsea has been able to overcome the problem of players, they have many young players with potential, even some players who are older can still play well, task in developing Chelsea is actually to find the best strengths and make them more stable.
Chelsea would have been one of the strongest contender for the EPL title in the coming season if they had not changed there coach yet but with the change of coach and bringing in someone that's coming in with his own ideology and pattern of play that's going to cause the players to adopt to his coaching tactics, it's never q good thing for the club. I bet that this is the issue when club owners are just thinking about making everything to revolve around business and paying little attention to the effect of some of her decisions on her players. The likes of Jackson, Cole Palmer and madueke that has learnt to play according to porchetino kind of play would have to learn how to work with this new coach. The person I know this change will affect more is Jackson cause we aren't sure if this current coach would be able to cope with his lapses and give him chance to improve. They should have allowed porchetino to start this season and see if he's going to do better and if he's not able to improve then it's justifiable to sack him but sacking someone that has literally built the Chelsea team from nothing to the point they are this moment, it's just a bad one.

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June 13, 2024, 07:49:10 AM

It wouldn't be an important problem for Liverpool if they started from the bottom again, Liverpool needs experience like this to form a new strategy that might give Liverpool victory in the next match. When many Liverpool players are about to retire, they will take advantage of the opportunity to buy new players at a young age. In this way, the strategy used by Liverpool will have the potential to put on a good show in the next match.

Yeah I get it, that's why I said there's no need to expect more in the first season because building a team is not an easy thing, especially if there are new talents there. We know how Klopp built Liverpool, which was once the best team in the Premier League and next season they will have to adapt to a new style it's clear there will be an impact on the squad. Do you think Arne Slot can take Liverpool to the same level or higher? as we know he has no experience in the Premier League.
It is clearly very difficult for Arne Slot in his first season in the Premier League, but losing Klopp does not mean this is the end of Liverpool's story of winning the title, looking at the performance of Liverpool's new coach next season, Arne. Slot is a good choice considering his performance with the previous team is a special coach so I think he will impress next season.

Of course, obstacles will come to Arne Slot, but the squad that Arne Slot has at Liverpool has good talent and also has a warrior mentality, especially since Slot has experience in the Champions League which proves that he will be successful at Liverpool.

9 years is quite a long time and Jurgen Klopp did that to build Liverpool. So I think Liverpool still has the legacy and characteristics left by Klopp because most of the players are still the same, players who have long been used to the strategy played by Klopp. It is likely that it will not be easy for the new coach to write a new chapter at Liverpool because of this, especially if it's a young coach who doesn't have a strong character and doesn't have a winning mentality (hopefully Arne Slot is not that kind of coach).

I thought this was what happened to Man United when Sir Alex Ferguson decided to retire, where his legacy actually became an obstacle for his successor to carry out his duties properly.
In Europe, there is a crisis of good coaches, and even the coaches who are emerging at the moment are former players and are still relatively young and have experience which is still somewhat doubtful. Getting a coach or changing coaches is whether or not they are compatible with the existing players, like Liverpool at the moment.  Arne Slot is a coach who people may have only heard of depending on how he implements new games or uses the tactics of the previous coach. Kloop. It is not surprising that there are setbacks for clubs that change coaching, such as Man United with Ten Hag, because their playing style is incompatible with  English League style of play, Ten Hag applies a style of play like the Dutch League while he is not aware that he is in the English League style of play which has speed, that is why the setback happened to the Red Devils with the selfishness of their coach, hopefully Liverpool is not like  Man United and Arne Slot were able to make Liverpool better than before.

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June 13, 2024, 07:53:39 AM

I also think Liverpool team needs to prepare for future because Salah might leave soon. Club needs to find new players who can take his place. New coach Arne Slot has had average results in past so I am not sure about his coaching how he will do for Liverpool. But he might do better at Liverpool because they have stronger team. We should not expect everything to go perfectly in his first season. It will take time for him to adjust and make his plans work. Liverpool success depends on good planning developing players and making smart decisions.

Changing coaches does not make things easier and there will definitely be some adjustments that the coach must make to make his team stronger.
If Mo Salah leaves then Liverpool will have a void in the front line and even though there is a replacement, it will never be the same as him so the coach needs to reintegrate the team's strengths.

Arne Slot will not be able to handle Liverpool easily because the competition in the Premier League is very competitive and if they use the wrong strategy then Liverpool could experience the same thing as Manchester United or Chelsea.
Arne Slot will begin new era in Liverpool and he possibly will make a big change in Liverpool considering there will be Liverpool players who leave and he also will bought new players as the replacement of those players so these situations makes most Liverpool players will attempts to hard struggling to adapt with Liverpool current conditions and hopefully that will have a positive impact on Liverpool later because admitting or not Liverpool fans is really hope Arne Slot can be more successful than Klopp but indeed it won't be easy because the fans should be patient and give Arne Slot plenty of time to build the squad

About Mo Salah some people has give their opinion to Liverpool that maybe this is the right time for Liverpool to release him because Liverpool have to regeneration their squad with the younger players and i know with his performance Mo Salah can playing well for next 1 or 2 season with Liverpool but i think they should be thinking more realistic because Mo Salah contract will be expired next summer on 2025 so if Liverpool will not sell him this summer then Mo Salah possibly will leave with free transfer status

Mo Salah himself has been give his opinion about his future in Liverpool because he also will try to thinking realistic too because Saudi Arabian club was offering high salary for him if he willing to leave Liverpool and Mo Salah thought it's not bad idea to accept the offer from that club and leaving Liverpool because big money is hard to resist however i know this is based my own opinion but i think Mo Salah is really will accept the offer from Saudi Arabian club and leave Liverpool this summer

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June 13, 2024, 08:01:02 AM

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Changing coaches is not a bad idea but changing a coach when the team is having a good performance is not good at all, Chelsea is having a good performance at the end of the season and what the team does is sack the coach, that is not good, to be honest, pochettino is trying his best to make sure the team improve and fight for a good position next season but at the end of the season they sacked him, Chelsea coach is not the problem of the team, although sometimes when a team is having good or bad performance the coach suppose to be blamed but pochettino is not the real problem of Chelsea performance, from the beginning of the season we all know how Chelsea player’s are having injuries including the new players they sign have been having injuries.

Chelsea has signed another coach who will lead the team if the season starts from my experience, they need to cooperate and there should be good communication between the players and coach because if the players don’t like the coach the team will not achieve what they want, if Chelsea can play the way they played at the end of last season they will be able to achieve something good, I didn’t say that they can win the league because any team that can win premier league title is going to be stronger than Manchester City and I don’t see that kind of performance of defeating Manchester City with Chelsea.
True, changing coaches is not bad thing but just look at how Todd Boehly does it, he is not satisfied when the coach fails to build Chelsea but on the other hand there is also dissatisfaction when the team has shown more significant development.
Everything has happened and basically Todd Boehly has quite high ego and it is even very difficult to guess what his thinking was to do all this while he was the owner of Chelsea.
Todd Boehly ambiguous decision is only in the way he makes decisions to always change coaches and I think things like this must be changed, he should really believe in the coach he thinks is the right one, otherwise Chelsea will never develop well.

Chelsea has been able to overcome the problem of players, they have many young players with potential, even some players who are older can still play well, task in developing Chelsea is actually to find the best strengths and make them more stable.
Chelsea would have been one of the strongest contender for the EPL title in the coming season if they had not changed there coach yet but with the change of coach and bringing in someone that's coming in with his own ideology and pattern of play that's going to cause the players to adopt to his coaching tactics, it's never q good thing for the club. I bet that this is the issue when club owners are just thinking about making everything to revolve around business and paying little attention to the effect of some of her decisions on her players. The likes of Jackson, Cole Palmer and madueke that has learnt to play according to porchetino kind of play would have to learn how to work with this new coach. The person I know this change will affect more is Jackson cause we aren't sure if this current coach would be able to cope with his lapses and give him chance to improve. They should have allowed porchetino to start this season and see if he's going to do better and if he's not able to improve then it's justifiable to sack him but sacking someone that has literally built the Chelsea team from nothing to the point they are this moment, it's just a bad one.
We cannot correctly tell if Chelsea will be successful or not this coming season, with the former coach there was quite a bit of certainty that Chelsea will perform better than the past season but our faith with this new coach can not be decided. We get to see his capacity at the start of the season but we just have to hope for the best to happen. Jackson will have to sit obviously in the bench because I believe they are already in talk with a better striker than him. Jackson missed a lot of goal scoring opportunities that would have saved the team last season.

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June 13, 2024, 08:04:09 AM

But with the current situation, if Ten Hag is retained, the team will still not be able to improve. The club should replace Ten Hag with Mauricio Pochettino, who left Chelsea last month.  I believe the new owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe will have to make a change. He doesn't want to see the money he invested in the club gradually decline.

MU leaders should have fired Ten Hag right after the FA Cup final. However, the emotional victory over Man City brought a new wave of support for coach Ten Hag from the fan community. Fans continue to put their trust in Erik ten Hag. This fact is making it difficult for Sir Jim Ratcliffe, who decides the future of Ten Hag.

You cannot say that, you don't know that. Manchester United will improve next season, Erik Ten Hag did improve Manchester United in the first season, Yes? So, I don't know what you're saying.
Mauricio Pochetino? Lmfao! A coach who has been dumped by another club should be replacing Erik Ten Hag? How do you people make sure analysis? I'm disappointed truthfully.

It's a great thing to see that, they have finally backed him to end all of these dirty and unnecessary manager speculations. Erik Ten Hag is the best man for Manchester United.
Go see Manchester United fans and players backing and supporting the manager online.

If you was in charge of a big club as Manchester United, you'll really make such a awful director or CEO. Your decisions are filled with hate and dislike.

You are a person with patience, but I don't have that.
I cannot accept that MU only ranked 8th at the end of the season. This is MU's worst performance in the history of the Premier League. It is worth mentioning that coach Ten Hag has been with Old Trafford for nearly two years and was supported in the transfer market with an amount of 410 million pounds. With that amount of money and that much time, it's unacceptable. Tottenham and Newcastle can also rank above MU. Meanwhile, these two teams in the transfer market are completely outmatched by MU.

Okay, you and I, let's wait and see what coach Ten Hag will prove next season.

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You are a person with patience, but I don't have that.
I cannot accept that MU only ranked 8th at the end of the season. This is MU's worst performance in the history of the Premier League. It is worth mentioning that coach Ten Hag has been with Old Trafford for nearly two years and was supported in the transfer market with an amount of 410 million pounds. With that amount of money and that much time, it's unacceptable. Tottenham and Newcastle can also rank above MU. Meanwhile, these two teams in the transfer market are completely outmatched by MU.

Okay, you and I, let's wait and see what coach Ten Hag will prove next season.
In fact, he received good support from management, but he could not prove that he could make Manchester United even better than before, and this season he has failed even though he managed to win the FA Cup title. At the start of his coaching there was something good he could show, but as time went on he continued to show poor performances, so I have more and more doubts about Erik Ten Hag at the moment.

We'll see what he can show next season, but if he doesn't show good progress, I hope Manchester United doesn't waste time retaining him as coach. They have to act decisively, but if he can give his best performance and can show something good, then Manchester United will not be wrong with the opportunity they are giving this coach. To be realistic, we will all give our own assessment of the performance he has just shown this season.

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June 13, 2024, 09:56:27 AM

In fact, he received good support from management, but he could not prove that he could make Manchester United even better than before, and this season he has failed even though he managed to win the FA Cup title. At the start of his coaching there was something good he could show, but as time went on he continued to show poor performances, so I have more and more doubts about Erik Ten Hag at the moment.

We'll see what he can show next season, but if he doesn't show good progress, I hope Manchester United doesn't waste time retaining him as coach. They have to act decisively, but if he can give his best performance and can show something good, then Manchester United will not be wrong with the opportunity they are giving this coach. To be realistic, we will all give our own assessment of the performance he has just shown this season.
Everything requires a process, don't be too quick to say that Ten Hag has failed with Manchester United.
Last season, Manchester United experienced a lot of problems, especially injuries that befell many of their main players, so Ten Hag had quite a hard time lifting this team's performance, so I think last season's downturn cannot be used as a reference because they had a lot of problems.
And Manchester United's success in winning the FA Cup is also worthy of appreciation.

Next season should be the final proving ground for Ten Hag, if he fails then he will have to be fired, but personally I am quite sure that Ten Hag will be able to make positive changes to Manchester United's performance if they don't have the same problems as last season.

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June 13, 2024, 10:16:06 AM

There are massive potential to look at but there's also good means of winning games next season. Liverpool is also enlisted to be one of the club's we should keep close sight on because Jurgen Klopp exits Anfield and we know how challenging it will be for the Reds. They will even barely win games except for the actual fact that the new coach, Arne Slot will enchance the club with overcoming difficulties.
Everyone will see how to train a team as big as Liverpool next season by Arne Slot who has been chosen as Liverpool's new coach. Because Jurgen Klopp, who left Anfield at the end of the season, also did not leave the team in a bad condition, Arne Slot must of course be able to continue Liverpool's extraordinary performance next season without any complaints. Although Arne Slot also has to adapt himself to the players already in the Liverpool squad when training them all next season.

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June 13, 2024, 10:50:26 AM

Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.
Maybe it's not good, but I will try to compare it with the arrival of ten Hag at Manchester United, when he had very great authority in the Eredivisie, but he had to realize that in the Premier League everything happens differently. Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.

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June 13, 2024, 11:57:07 AM

Maybe it's not good, but I will try to compare it with the arrival of ten Hag at Manchester United, when he had very great authority in the Eredivisie, but he had to realize that in the Premier League everything happens differently. Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.
Liverpool is elite team and they've come to accomplish important goals in the English Premier League. Perhaps the club will sort out means to come out winning because it's never consider easy for them.

Erik Ten Hag in Manchester United, he's consider to deliver top games. Liverpool new coach, Arne Slot will do better than Jurgen Klopp? Let's hope for the best outcome.

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I think the minimum acceptable result that is expected from a United coach is top 4, right? Here's how bookmakers see the teams' chances:
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So far, I see that United has dropped out of the list of elite clubs and will only fight with the underdogs, and even in that group it is not a favorite. It is unlikely that the appointment of another coach could change this picture much, but the fact remains: for United, getting into the top 4 is the end of dreams, their chances of winning the title are estimated at 1 in 26.
Man United will be in the top 4 of the PL? I hope so but somehow there's no faith in Erik Ten Hag.
Ten Hag can still improve the team and with some players who need to be solid again under their tutelage, otherwise they will be mid-table.

The bookmakers odds are pretty reasonable and Man United are 6th, but those odds could change at any time if Man United's performance improves, but I don't think it will happen in the current season.

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June 13, 2024, 12:53:35 PM

Everything requires a process, don't be too quick to say that Ten Hag has failed with Manchester United.
Last season, Manchester United experienced a lot of problems, especially injuries that befell many of their main players, so Ten Hag had quite a hard time lifting this team's performance, so I think last season's downturn cannot be used as a reference because they had a lot of problems.
And Manchester United's success in winning the FA Cup is also worthy of appreciation.

Next season should be the final proving ground for Ten Hag, if he fails then he will have to be fired, but personally I am quite sure that Ten Hag will be able to make positive changes to Manchester United's performance if they don't have the same problems as last season.
Everything need process and get more patience, but Erik ten Hag have been two season with Manchester United and he still get failure bring the United keep in the top fourth race standings after 8th place finish position this season.
In modern era, Manchester United spending much money for signing players I don't think taking process for longer time to be the winner of Premier League and keep dominance at the top fourth standings.
But Erik ten Hag won FA Cup in this season and close his failure with Manchester United achieved finish outside of Europe League spot standings position, after management of United announced will extend Erik ten Hag contract I think he must improve team performance if want get more extend become Manchester United manager.

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Therefore, I am skeptical about Slott at Liverpool and admit that they will not have an easy season. On the other hand, choosing a worthy coach for such a team is not an easy task and most likely Klopp took part in choosing a new coach, perhaps this will play an important role.
Even if the present Liverpool coach was handpicked by the former Liverpool coach as a successor it still does not guarantee that he will be successful in the Premier League because he still has to settle into the premier league where every team is aiming to set a record. Erik Ten Hag who will be staying for his third season in the club has a better chance of being successful than the new Liverpool coach. It is not always easy for a new coach to do well immediately for the club that has hired his services especially in the Premier League, this must be something that the Manchester United executives must have considered also before deciding to let the manager they know already keep his job.
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There's something you don't seem to understand, this is the game of football, anything can happen. And we saying so is suppose to happen that way but it didn't because we all including yourself say things base on how we're seeing it. When a coach like Erik who has been making mouth of winning trophies for the club start messing up do you think he shouldn't be sacked? When he came to the club the expectation was high and everything seems to be promising but later on things started working against him and you'd agree with me that this man has lost control in the locker room of UTD. No one is being biase here is just how it is, I don't know about others but the Red Devils don't have anything to offer next season.
Manchester United would give out those two trophies just to be in the finals of the champions league, those trophies don't mean anything compared to the UCL trophy and EPL title, so you shouldn't be too comfortable with that, face the fact Manchester United are never going to improve until the issues they are battling with indoor are settled.
The body language of the players don't really want Erik ten Heg and you know it so let's call a spade a spade, I'll still say it that the relationship between Erik ten Heg and the players ain't healthy, take a good look at how Pep, Arteta and former Liverpool coach Klopp relate with their players, the joy in the locker room of those managers will always make the players to play for the manager every week, but that's not how it is for ten Heg.

Lmfao, and even if I want to learn, even if I want to understand, not from you, because I wonder how you can say this is football anything can happen and you still go on to say Erik Ten Hag and Manchester United will not improve next season? You obviously lack football knowledge and just trying to fit in. Your context is enough evidence you didn't or never played football so you will never understood, and you must be one of those that watch football with lots of hate and bias because you hate and dislike a club.

Setbacks are part of the coaching job and also, most of these Manchester United players dis not do well for the coach. He had Injured players especially from the back which is one of the best ways he has build the Manchester United side since he took over. Football has evolved not everyone will understand this.

Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte managed Tottenham Hotspur but the management failed to upgrade the squad how do you expect all of those high expectations to go on? T's same with Manchester United as they need improvements.

And how can you say two trophies are not important? Then you don't know anything about the history of Manchester United. Even before Erik Ten Hag, how many finals has Manchester United found themselves? Lol. Please do better.

You don't know that because you don't have a direct contact in the dressing room. Are you siblings with Marcus Rashford? Or Harry Maguire? Because they seem like people to leak such informations out lol. Wait and See and in between, listen to commentary and learn with your ears and eyes.

It really tells the kind of football lover you are, a kind who thinks he knows all but you know nothing about how things are in football, sorry I can't teach you a thing or two about football both on and off the pitch because it would be a shame to those who don't know anything about football (such as yourself), it would be pointless thinking of teaching you because it won't get in your head. Manchester United will never improve as long as your manager Erik ten Heg is still push hard to get an apology from a player that he sent out of the first team, never will he (Sancho) train with the senior team and also sent him on loan, that shouldn't be part of what he should have requested for when was given the 2 years contract, that's in the past and ten Heg shouldn't have brought it up. Is that the man who'll improve the team? Someone who's living in the past. Sometimes I wonder how you analyze football and you come here to make people believe you know anything about football. As a Manchester United fan you're suppose to say things the way they are, at this point there won't be any communication between Erik ten Heg if he continues with this selfish plan of his, I feel he's only thinking of himself than what will improve the club.
About the trophy, let's say Manchester United always win the domestic competitions but always finish outside the top 4, no Champions League trophy no EPL title, would you still be wasting your time saying that the Red Devils are doing well? Guy open your eyes and start accepting the reality about Manchester United your beloved club, very soon you'll see many of UTD fans will lose that patience they have for the club when they're not showing any sign of moving forward.
If you're watching football starting from next season just sit close to someone who knows how what he's watching because if you watch it alone you won't understand what you're watching. The case of information in the locker room, is something they don't let the public know except one of the players comes out to air out the whole thing, like the case of Ronaldo who told the world how poor the training equipments are and some other things. Don't use because you're a fan to run away from the truth, UTD will even be worse than last campaign with the mindset of Erik ten Heg. The season has not started yet but he has already started dropping some negative energy in the team.

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Liverpool's new coach Arne Slott is not as experienced as Klopp. He has never been the coach of a big club like Liverpool before. He was previously the coach of Feyenoord. Arne Slot's performance with Feyenoord was good enough. But managing a big club like Liverpool is more challenging.

The new coach will have to build the squad according to his choice of players. Next season we will see several changes in Liverpool's squad. Liverpool's overall performance this season has not been strong. Liverpool were short of talented players on the bench. So when a player suffered an injury, Klopp did not have a suitable replacement. This is why we have seen Liverpool's erratic and unstable performances. Arne Slot should rebuild Liverpool's entire squad.
You don't judge a coach by making assumptions on your ow end. Arne Slott has been good in performance in other clubs he has managed why do you think he won't be good in managing Liverpool. Every best coach started from the small team and that is what make me believe that this new coach will do something. Most times it's not about the coaching a big club, there was a hype when coach Maurino came to one big club, and he could not win any trophy and was still sacked.

If Liverpool has agreed to welcome Arne Slott as their new coach, then we should accept it with them, and not try to predict their fate without seeing him in action when the league starts.

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June 13, 2024, 01:38:13 PM

Everything requires a process, don't be too quick to say that Ten Hag has failed with Manchester United.
Last season, Manchester United experienced a lot of problems, especially injuries that befell many of their main players, so Ten Hag had quite a hard time lifting this team's performance, so I think last season's downturn cannot be used as a reference because they had a lot of problems.
And Manchester United's success in winning the FA Cup is also worthy of appreciation.

Next season should be the final proving ground for Ten Hag, if he fails then he will have to be fired, but personally I am quite sure that Ten Hag will be able to make positive changes to Manchester United's performance if they don't have the same problems as last season.
Everything need process and get more patience, but Erik ten Hag have been two season with Manchester United and he still get failure bring the United keep in the top fourth race standings after 8th place finish position this season.
In modern era, Manchester United spending much money for signing players I don't think taking process for longer time to be the winner of Premier League and keep dominance at the top fourth standings.
But Erik ten Hag won FA Cup in this season and close his failure with Manchester United achieved finish outside of Europe League spot standings position, after management of United announced will extend Erik ten Hag contract I think he must improve team performance if want get more extend become Manchester United manager.

Erik Ten Hag's mistake was that he was still keeping the current players and that would never change anything regarding the Red Devils' status in the Premier League. He had to have the courage to overhaul the existing squad even though his tenure had lasted two years and only produced the FA Cup. Even though it wasn't enough to bring the Red Devils to play in the Chamiones League for two seasons, they always didn't participate, of course this is the worst achievement ever during their coaching, if they continue to keep the current players, the big possibility is that the Red Devils will continue to get bad results. like this season..

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