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June 18, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
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A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
Turkey and also Greece seem to be in the wrong league anyway. They are not a first class teams, but their opponents were only small countries with almost amateur teams (no offence to the small countries please Wink)
Latvia won all 4 games, but they are in the bottom league. Positive surprises (for me) were also Norway (who are dominiating their league with difficult opponents such as Sweden and Serbia) and Bosnia (who go good results against Finland and Romania. I believe we never saw Bosnia at a larger tournament, I hope they can qualify for the next Euro Cup)

I totaly agree with your arguments. Turkey had a very bad coach. He insisted on playing very bad player like Kenan Karaman. Turkey was relegated from the League B to the League C. Afterwards, Turkey had a very bad performance in the Euro Cup. And he was eventually fired. I guess Turkey will be in League B again with the new coach Kuntz.

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June 18, 2022, 02:34:52 PM
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A league intended to replace friendlies ended up with the results of friendlies games. Unpredictable, random, weird...
France will end up 4th or 3rd in best cases. England too.
Meanwhile Turkey, Greece and Lettonie are the only ones to almost guarantee the 1st place before 2 rounds from the end of the group stage.
Turkey and also Greece seem to be in the wrong league anyway. They are not a first class teams, but their opponents were only small countries with almost amateur teams (no offence to the small countries please Wink)
Latvia won all 4 games, but they are in the bottom league. Positive surprises (for me) were also Norway (who are dominiating their league with difficult opponents such as Sweden and Serbia) and Bosnia (who go good results against Finland and Romania. I believe we never saw Bosnia at a larger tournament, I hope they can qualify for the next Euro Cup)

I totaly agree with your arguments. Turkey had a very bad coach. He insisted on playing very bad player like Kenan Karaman. Turkey was relegated from the League B to the League C. Afterwards, Turkey had a very bad performance in the Euro Cup. And he was eventually fired. I guess Turkey will be in League B again with the new coach Kuntz.

I am certain that Turkey is in the B league.  All teams are weaker than Turkey in the group they are currently in.  Turkey did not even concede a goal in the 4 games they played.  Therefore, it will easily go to the B league.  Turkey's target is seen as the A League.  I see a young, high-quality Turkey who is a candidate for the A league in a year or two.

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June 18, 2022, 07:22:13 PM
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Since the technical team of the Netherlands is very strong, success is inevitable. The Dutch team that fell before Louis van Gaal took off after he came. If you remember, they took the lead in the World Cup Qualifiers after van Gaal came. The technical team is very important. In Euro 2020, the Netherlands played bad football. In the Czechia match they were eliminated, they could not even shoot a target, this was probably the tournament where they played the worst game of their history.. They were playing a very nasty football until Delight saw red. I really like the Netherlands. There are young and promising generations. They want to give Van Gaal the World Cup as a gift to the end of his football career. Maybe they will be even better if Koeman comes, but the Legend of the Netherlands was Van Gaal and always will be.
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June 19, 2022, 01:15:40 AM
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Since the technical team of the Netherlands is very strong, success is inevitable. The Dutch team that fell before Louis van Gaal took off after he came. If you remember, they took the lead in the World Cup Qualifiers after van Gaal came. The technical team is very important. In Euro 2020, the Netherlands played bad football. In the Czechia match they were eliminated, they could not even shoot a target, this was probably the tournament where they played the worst game of their history.. They were playing a very nasty football until Delight saw red. I really like the Netherlands. There are young and promising generations. They want to give Van Gaal the World Cup as a gift to the end of his football career. Maybe they will be even better if Koeman comes, but the Legend of the Netherlands was Van Gaal and always will be.

Netherlands was a great football-playing nation once. I still remember them playing in the finals of the 2014 world cup that they lost against Spain. It was a great game and Iniesta Luján really took the dream away from them. But after that, I don't think I ever even heard about the Netherlands until now. It is really good to see that they are doing better in international football right now and it will be really great to see them nominated for the world cup once again but I think that will take a little time.

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June 19, 2022, 02:46:42 AM
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Since the technical team of the Netherlands is very strong, success is inevitable. The Dutch team that fell before Louis van Gaal took off after he came. If you remember, they took the lead in the World Cup Qualifiers after van Gaal came. The technical team is very important. In Euro 2020, the Netherlands played bad football. In the Czechia match they were eliminated, they could not even shoot a target, this was probably the tournament where they played the worst game of their history.. They were playing a very nasty football until Delight saw red. I really like the Netherlands. There are young and promising generations. They want to give Van Gaal the World Cup as a gift to the end of his football career. Maybe they will be even better if Koeman comes, but the Legend of the Netherlands was Van Gaal and always will be.

Netherlands was a great football-playing nation once. I still remember them playing in the finals of the 2014 world cup that they lost against Spain. It was a great game and Iniesta Luján really took the dream away from them. But after that, I don't think I ever even heard about the Netherlands until now. It is really good to see that they are doing better in international football right now and it will be really great to see them nominated for the world cup once again but I think that will take a little time.
The Netherlands are currently doing well in the UEFA National League but unfortunately, many of the big teams in this tournament are not playing well. That way, there is still no guarantee that the Netherlands will continue to have a good performance in the world cup later, because if the big teams play more seriously in the world cup later then maybe the Netherlands will not look as great as in this tournament. But yes, after all the Netherlands have built a better team now, so in this tournament they still consider it an important tournament to push their motivation even higher.

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June 19, 2022, 12:45:38 PM
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I think that this tournament is a good opportunity for especially big teams to get well-prepared for the World Cup. They don't get very good results mostly but it still helps them see themselves by different strategies and starting eleven preferences. UEFA tried to add another competitive tournament but the Nations League hasn't been that much competitive so far. As long as big teams perform like this it can get boring in time. I would like to be wrong about it but it is the truth for now.

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June 19, 2022, 04:45:59 PM
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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.

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June 19, 2022, 05:20:22 PM
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England's performance from the last three match they played is really poor, england only played a draw match against Germany, in the nations league. That was the only match they scored, checking from the past three match. I am just expecting them to do something better in the next match they will play against Italy. If they still continue with this low performance it literally means they need new players for better performance.
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June 19, 2022, 05:29:30 PM
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The players now have a few weeks of rest and after the summer they will continue with the Nations League. Normally I think the players don't care much, but in this case it could be different. The World Championship already starts in November and so you actually have an extra practice period in the remaining 2 matches of the Nations League. That looks good then. For many teams, there is little at stake. England still has something to do with its reputation after the 0-4 decline, but other countries such as Italy also disappoint after the 5-2 defeat against Germany. Where it was 5-0 by the way.
I couldn't understand how Italy could still be so bad after Euro 2020. They were so good at Euro 2020 that they were playing the tiki-taka game as a whole, just like a PlayStation team. They went on offense together and came in defense together. I already said that they will be champions in group matches. Today, they will not be in the world cup. They also suffer shock defeats in the Nations league. Italy is experiencing a decline with a very bad momentum after being champion in Euro 2020.

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June 19, 2022, 05:36:35 PM
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The Nations League so far has been exciting and boring at the same time.  Cheesy  It has been exciting because we have been able to watch incredible matches with many goals in them. It has been boring because biggest teams generally didn't care about their matches here so much and this caused them to get absurd results. This caused many people to lose their bets and a lot of money also. The Nations League isn't credible for betting if you aim to bet on the favourite teams mostly.

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The Nations League so far has been exciting and boring at the same time.  Cheesy  It has been exciting because we have been able to watch incredible matches with many goals in them. It has been boring because biggest teams generally didn't care about their matches here so much and this caused them to get absurd results. This caused many people to lose their bets and a lot of money also. The Nations League isn't credible for betting if you aim to bet on the favourite teams mostly.
They are more focused on tactics and strategies for what they will do for the world cup which will soon be held so they don't really think too much about the results which makes this not too good to be a bet because it's too monotonous Cheesy
But indeed this is also good enough for the team to see readiness so that even if football lovers are not satisfied, for the team that does it they have references and references.

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June 19, 2022, 08:10:11 PM
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The Nations League so far has been exciting and boring at the same time.  Cheesy  It has been exciting because we have been able to watch incredible matches with many goals in them. It has been boring because biggest teams generally didn't care about their matches here so much and this caused them to get absurd results. This caused many people to lose their bets and a lot of money also. The Nations League isn't credible for betting if you aim to bet on the favourite teams mostly.
From a gambling standpoint you are absolutly right this competition has been hard to predict for us gamblers and many lost their money but for football fans it is amazing to see competition and maybe we will see a small team win a european competition for the first time.
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I am certain that Turkey is in the B league.  All teams are weaker than Turkey in the group they are currently in.  Turkey did not even concede a goal in the 4 games they played.  Therefore, it will easily go to the B league.  Turkey's target is seen as the A League.  I see a young, high-quality Turkey who is a candidate for the A league in a year or two.
In Europe there is top teams, medium and weak ones. The difference between these groups is quite large. It is like moving from skills 8-9/10 to 5/10 to 1-2/10 without having in-between skills. Turkey is 5/10, not good, not bad. The small teams we are talking about are simply in the low tier..

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In Europe there is top teams, medium and weak ones. The difference between these groups is quite large. It is like moving from skills 8-9/10 to 5/10 to 1-2/10 without having in-between skills. Turkey is 5/10, not good, not bad. The small teams we are talking about are simply in the low tier..

That's why they created two divisions in the league. So that the weakest teams compete with each other, and the strongest with each other.

With that, it is expected a competitive increase, since the teams are more balanced, when they play against each other.

Now the competition just has to gain popularity, to be seen more importantly by the various teams.

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The Nations League so far has been exciting and boring at the same time.  Cheesy  It has been exciting because we have been able to watch incredible matches with many goals in them. It has been boring because biggest teams generally didn't care about their matches here so much and this caused them to get absurd results. This caused many people to lose their bets and a lot of money also. The Nations League isn't credible for betting if you aim to bet on the favourite teams mostly.
They are more focused on tactics and strategies for what they will do for the world cup which will soon be held so they don't really think too much about the results which makes this not too good to be a bet because it's too monotonous Cheesy
But indeed this is also good enough for the team to see readiness so that even if football lovers are not satisfied, for the team that does it they have references and references.
Probably nothing to do with the World Cup, just that many countries are not serious about the League of Nations. It's an extra opportunity for them to have a training session. That's why the top teams don't look good and the underdogs are trying to make a name for themselves. I think that before the World Cup, at the end of September, the situation will not change much because the coaches will be worried about the players so that they don't get injured.

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They are more focused on tactics and strategies for what they will do for the world cup which will soon be held so they don't really think too much about the results which makes this not too good to be a bet because it's too monotonous Cheesy
But indeed this is also good enough for the team to see readiness so that even if football lovers are not satisfied, for the team that does it they have references and references.
Probably nothing to do with the World Cup, just that many countries are not serious about the League of Nations. It's an extra opportunity for them to have a training session. That's why the top teams don't look good and the underdogs are trying to make a name for themselves. I think that before the World Cup, at the end of September, the situation will not change much because the coaches will be worried about the players so that they don't get injured.
I still feel that this can indeed be a good thing to carry out a strategy in the World Cup which will be held soon because if we look at it now, of course, the league of nations will become a reference to measure the readiness of the team itself and the opposing team in the future. .
But even if it's not and only used as training material, it's clear that this is also quite good because indeed they also know the strength of the team they will prepare and the formation they will apply as well.

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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.

I agree with you, Hungary has demonstrated an excellent performance that made many people to predicted for their favour, because they defeated England and other strong teams in this tournament that showed that nothing will stop them not to achieve this season title. Hungary coach is really doing a great job because for a Hungary to defeated England, show that their coach has raised a talented players that will help the team to achieve this season title and next season title. I believe Hungary will definitely win their next match to improve their points.

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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.

I agree with you, Hungary has demonstrated an excellent performance that made many people to predicted for their favour, because they defeated England and other strong teams in this tournament that showed that nothing will stop them not to achieve this season title. Hungary coach is really doing a great job because for a Hungary to defeated England, show that their coach has raised a talented players that will help the team to achieve this season title and next season title. I believe Hungary will definitely win their next match to improve their points.
Impressive performance from this team i think their teamwork is what made them get this far plus the manager knew how to stop england, but still just defeating one team is not enough to say they have a chance to get the title, i see many strong teams in top shape so i would say their chances are really thin unless they produce a miracle and beat germany in the next game.
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The group that includes Hungary can be called the death group. A group with strong teams. But being a leader in this group is truly an incredible event. Big surprise. The fact that Hungary scored four away goals against England in the last match shows that they are a great team. Although there were very good players in the England National Team they could not be a good team. The important thing here will be the continuation of Hungary's success. I see a really close knit, ambitious team right now.

I agree with you, Hungary has demonstrated an excellent performance that made many people to predicted for their favour, because they defeated England and other strong teams in this tournament that showed that nothing will stop them not to achieve this season title. Hungary coach is really doing a great job because for a Hungary to defeated England, show that their coach has raised a talented players that will help the team to achieve this season title and next season title. I believe Hungary will definitely win their next match to improve their points.
Impressive performance from this team i think their teamwork is what made them get this far plus the manager knew how to stop england, but still just defeating one team is not enough to say they have a chance to get the title, i see many strong teams in top shape so i would say their chances are really thin unless they produce a miracle and beat germany in the next game.
in any competition game there's nothing like miracle to win a game or competition. What they need to win game is that I don't have the structure of teams that knows how to play first so forget about coach because go to can move enter speech and start playing football winning is determine by the team not by miracle

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England's performance from the last three match they played is really poor, england only played a draw match against Germany, in the nations league. That was the only match they scored, checking from the past three match. I am just expecting them to do something better in the next match they will play against Italy. If they still continue with this low performance it literally means they need new players for better performance.

Football players do not take this league seriously. They are not unfair. They have completed an intense match schedule all year. Now they are playing in a tournament with low prestige. It would not be right to expect them to maintain their concentration in such a tournament. I think UEFA should do something urgently to increase the prestige of this tournament.

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