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Author Topic: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.0  (Read 1040074 times)
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June 17, 2015, 10:17:02 PM
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Regarding derivatives:

I hear what Gekko's saying, but I also think demand is where you find it.  I'll take the 6 guys who trade DVC, and add them to the 200 mega hodlers, and add those to the day traders, and then multiple all this by China.

If you want to lockup Uno and make a NXT asset, go for it.
If you own an exchange like Cryptopia and want to tie up Uno in obscure altcoin pairings, go for it.
If you speak Chinese and can bring the Uno story to China, then I love you too.

In ideal world that was completely under my control, our message about Uno would be tight. But truly, I'm here to try serve you, and help you get to where you want to go. Whether you're a hodler, investor, trader, merchant, service provider, developers, exchange op, miners, or someone with niche interests and plans for Uno, I'm glad you're here.

In my family we all have different interests. The most enjoyable part of the day for me is sitting at the dinner table and discussing what we're doing. I don't find it confusing that we're all doing different things; I find it exciting.

I fully expect that when China really gets rolling, we will need a Chinese version of FallingKnife. I look forward to meeting him/her/them. I think we'll become good friends and collaborate on many things.  

I agree totally. Everyone has their niche, and the many different things are happening are interesting, if not exciting. However, in the lust to attract new investments and markets, you cannot alienate the people that already hold UNO and have been loyal members of the community for some time.


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June 17, 2015, 10:37:30 PM
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Alt markets rarely create a large change in volume. NXT/UNO, LTC/UNO w.e. it wouldn't make 10% of the volume that CNY/UNO would.

XRP/UNO and DOGE/UNO currently have $3 of volume compared to $1,572 of BTC/UNO volume.

I'm not saying alt/pairings are bad, I like them, but focus on a Chinese Yuan pairing or USD pairing before anything.

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Alt markets rarely create a large change in volume. NXT/UNO, LTC/UNO w.e. it wouldn't make 10% of the volume that CNY/UNO would.

XRP/UNO and DOGE/UNO currently have $3 of volume compared to $1,572 of BTC/UNO volume.

I'm not saying alt/pairings are bad, I like them, but focus on a Chinese Yuan pairing or USD pairing before anything.


Surely if cryptsy somehow is still pairing USD/XPY and USD/RDD they would eventually pair a proven price performer as UNO.


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June 17, 2015, 11:35:46 PM
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Alt markets rarely create a large change in volume. NXT/UNO, LTC/UNO w.e. it wouldn't make 10% of the volume that CNY/UNO would.

XRP/UNO and DOGE/UNO currently have $3 of volume compared to $1,572 of BTC/UNO volume.

I'm not saying alt/pairings are bad, I like them, but focus on a Chinese Yuan pairing or USD pairing before anything.


Surely if cryptsy somehow is still pairing USD/XPY and USD/RDD they would eventually pair a proven price performer as UNO.

its got nothing to do with the integrity of the coin and everything to do with high volume associated with the coin.

all about if the fees generated would be worth Cryptsy's effort

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Morning, campers. Watching The Europe Thing with real interest.

@ Cryptapus: not at all concerned. Quite happy with your management.

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http://cointelegraph.com/news/112609/living-room-of-satoshi-bill-paying-platform-stumps-banking-industry-at-startup-showdown

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*Yet we listed two security breaches among us Australians in just the last ten weeks!

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Could you provide any information or updates on those @IMZ ?

I personally had Two Backups fail and I fubared another. Redundancy redundancy redundancy.

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June 18, 2015, 02:41:52 AM
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Alt markets rarely create a large change in volume. NXT/UNO, LTC/UNO w.e. it wouldn't make 10% of the volume that CNY/UNO would.

XRP/UNO and DOGE/UNO currently have $3 of volume compared to $1,572 of BTC/UNO volume.

I'm not saying alt/pairings are bad, I like them, but focus on a Chinese Yuan pairing or USD pairing before anything.


Surely if cryptsy somehow is still pairing USD/XPY and USD/RDD they would eventually pair a proven price performer as UNO.
We have a USD market at Bleutrade. Anyone interested in trading Uno for USD and helping Uno in the process should help make a market there.  Someone has to go first. I make a lot of Uno markets but I can't make them all. Even if we were just trading $50 a day there in Uno, it would send a good signal to Cryptsy and validate early interest.

One can argue that if nobody is trading a pair, then there is no interest. One can also argue that if there's nothing to trade then a market can never take hold.  I'm just suggesting that before we can play baseball (or futbol), we need to have a place to play first.

I setup a market today for XPD/UNO on Cryptopia.  Is it going to be huge? Probably not and if you don't like XPD then just stay away. But if you already own some XPD (like me) and you have Uno (like me), then what the hell.  It's a very small corner of the Uno world, and even smaller corner of the cryptoworld, but it's there now, and anyone who wants to play it now can.  It's also a small way that I can say thanks to Cryptopia for the opportunity they've given us to do some new things with Uno.  

Having a wider Uno presence is generally a good thing, I think. Trading alt pairs in Uno is an invitation to learn about Uno. It makes people ask, "What is this Uno thing?". I don't think an XPD/UNO, FLAX/UNO or CHAO/UNO market takes anything away from any of the other efforts that are going on here. It's a positive thing to see Uno as a base currency on Cryptopia, imo.    But do we stop there?  Hell, no.  China or bust!

I don't particularly want CNY, but I'd trade it to help Uno get started in China.

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June 18, 2015, 03:16:45 AM
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What do you know, there is a USD pairing on Bleutrade. I've never traded USD but I'll set that up and put some orders in that market  Smiley


I'm mostly suggesting a Chinese Yuan pairing because there has been all this effort lately to translate everything into Chinese, it only makes sense. but the fact that a ton of volume in altcoins markets comes in the form of CNY certainly helps.

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prices on cryptopia are prohibitively high.

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1. active BTC LTC Doge pairs are a must to becoming a major crypto (already possible see cryptopia and blue exchanges)
2. NXT, BTS, and possibly DASH or Monero (any Anon will do)

*ripple is an already open market ... but I care very little for it sense it is 70% held by whoever ripple is.  To each their own you can trade if you like on Cryptsy.

3. then USD and CNY
(this might be best done via BTS or Nubits ... given most attempts to pair with exchange held $ have failed ... see the likes of Doge and Dash and FTC and others) ((a BTER list would likely include CNY pairing ie we would demand such))

4. after that cryptopia offers anyone to establish a pair of their liking (just do it as it only takes 1-2 committed persons to create a trade-able-vol. pair)

5. now we get into the more niche of Crypto Guild ... DVC (silver and equity) plus any other pair we wish to create that is not available on Cryptopia.  

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Everyone be sure to update to the .10 wallet.  I had some transactions that didn't come through, I downloaded the entire blockchain again and the coins still weren't there, but I didn't realize I wasn't on the new wallet.  When I came here and saw the update, I got the new wallet and my transactions showed up.  

On the downside, I no longer have any kilograms of Unobtanium.  Just UNO.  Which is fine unless you speak Spanish and someone asks you for "uno uno". 

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Really excited about the Android wallet, I hope it takes off.

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*Yet we listed two security breaches among us Australians in just the last ten weeks!

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Could you provide any information or updates on those @IMZ ?

I personally had Two Backups fail and I fubared another. Redundancy redundancy redundancy.


I couldn't agree more. Having the presence of mind to make a few GPG encrypted copies of those backups (this applies to paper wallets too) does a lot to reduce the number of horror stories. Hardly a week goes by you don't see someone who lost coins and had not a single backup of their wallet, or did not write down their seed.


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Oh, good!  Some conversation!

@Smokes:  douchbag?  Cool.  Just think of me as FK's Tyler Durden.   The conversation should not be about me.  I write to provoke.  Is this news?

Re: China.  The point in translating our documents is so that the Chinese have some place to land when we publicize our existence through well-placed articles in the Chinese crypto press, and their version of Twitter, Weibo.  That is step two, and I am working on it.  Telling the crypto population in a money hungry country of several billion creates demand, I think.  I am a dumb, abrasive douchbag.  So maybe not.

Maybe we should sell them DVC and silver bars.

Re NXT:  that link I provided is where mutual funds of crypto portfolios are being created.  UNO needs to be buyable.  A UNO "ETF" makes no sense.  Being easily acquirable for a NXT platform traded ETF increased demand.  They buy 10% and 20% chunks of various cryptos.

Re CNY:  billions of Chinese.  Which part is unclear?

Re ideas:  if you have an idea that increases demand, be ready to execute it, project manage it, push it to completion.  Statements like "We should do this or that" and OP disappears for months is flaccid numbnuttery.

If you are not going to do it, or find the people who can do it (FK:  I don't know how to get cryptsy to float a NXT/UNO trading pair:  can you tell me how or do it yourself?) STFU.

We don't need ideas that don't create demand and we don't need ideas that nobody is going to execute.

So STFU with ideas that you take no responsibility for.  I will be responsible for NXT trading pairs and am open to assistance.  I will see this too through and get it done.  And then I will sell UNO to those funds.

Re:  Me.  I am not the issue.  I am not your friend.  I am here to create value.  Why are you here?
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June 18, 2015, 12:53:53 PM
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Everyone be sure to update to the .10 wallet.  I had some transactions that didn't come through, I downloaded the entire blockchain again and the coins still weren't there, but I didn't realize I wasn't on the new wallet.  When I came here and saw the update, I got the new wallet and my transactions showed up.  

On the downside, I no longer have any kilograms of Unobtanium.  Just UNO.  Which is fine unless you speak Spanish and someone asks you for "uno uno". 

My version of wallets fixed this issue.
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"FK's Tyler Durden"
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1.  direct NXT/UNO trading pair is tough to do, near impossible.  NXT looks to be creating their own platform, and all the coins in UNITY will allow in wallet trading.  (virtual exchange)  Hence, the ETF concept.  We just create an asset and list it.  We = 6-12 reputable uno regulars underwriting the fund.

2.  China CNY.  Jubi?  Not sure if faking their volume I would say watch before entry.  BTER gets a UNO/CNY pair but they are still 'hack" tainted.   This leaves BTC38, the clear first choice.

3.  distribution of 80.  Yeah just like any coin. (or better do the homework but UNO has a wide base give $500k cap)   But UNO is acknowledging this maybe the fact, and why not plan on some future air drops / discount purchasing.  This means budget some UNO that you plan give out to expand the core user base.  Examples:  regional airdrop, money-market pundit airdrop, business enterprise airdrop, etc.  This is something to think on, we can make it fun, there is no rush, but gather your gift bags now.  #UNDROPs


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June 18, 2015, 02:10:43 PM
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"FK's Tyler Durden"
LOL

1.  direct NXT/UNO trading pair is tough to do, near impossible.  NXT looks to be creating their own platform, and all the coins in UNITY will allow in wallet trading.  (virtual exchange)  Hence, the ETF concept.  We just create an asset and list it.  We = 6-12 reputable uno regulars underwriting the fund.

I always wondered why (for utility sake) a NXT asset was necessary, I mean a colored coin would do the exact same thing couldn't it? Could verify assets directly on the BTC blockchain, or even UNO rockchain with a few tweaks.


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ALL OF THE ABOVE.

NXT is in the lead.  So list an ETF that allows UNO purchases.  BTS will likely take the lead.  They have U$D, CNY, and even BTC, Gold, Silver ETFs so lets have an UNO ETF for BTS.  Following that are; Tethers and Nubits so let's provide those pairs.  Then XEM, DogeParty, CounterParty, even Qora.  We will provide UNO on any viable asset platform.  Now if we also create UNO rockchain we can offer any and every pair.  Not to forget Cryptopia and CryptoGuild options to direct match.

The net is already wide, and and if UNO rockchain comes online, full spectrum.

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ALL OF THE ABOVE.

NXT is in the lead.  So list an ETF that allows UNO purchases.  BTS will likely take the lead.  They have U$D, CNY, and even BTC, Gold, Silver ETFs so lets have an UNO ETF for BTS.  Next are Tethers/Nubits so let's provide that pair.  Then XEM, DogeParty, CounterParty, even Qora.  We will provide UNO on any viable assest platform.  Now if we also create UNO rockchain we can offer any and every pair.  Not to forget Cryptopia and CryptoGuild options to direct match.

The net is already wide, and and if UNO rockchain comes online, full spectrum.

Cryptopia is nice, and I prefer private p2p trades such as the guild a lot. I had forgotten BitShares as a solution as well.


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June 18, 2015, 04:02:07 PM
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Really excited about the Android wallet, I hope it takes off.

Android wallet is a big step IMHO

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