[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[IMZ]

This one!

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[IanRidgwell]

I might be the only person who prefers a flat or mild gradient in the background.

[edgar]

I might be the only person who prefers a flat or mild gradient in the background.

you're not

[cragv]

Siameze, you'll be truly missed. Please reconsider based on discussion that passed after your post. Holding UNO is about more than one person - any one person - and at this stage in the coin's life, the community would not sit idly by in case of dev shenanigans. We have a much higher ratio of do-ers to talkers than is typical of a crypto support base. You're one such person and are valued by all of us who value their holdings at the very least, and as much more than that by those of us who are getting to know you. Do consider staying.

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In other news, I want a simple background to the wallet. Here's the germ of an idea, anyone is free to run with it and chop and change until it looks good (click for larger size):



(I'm clearly not gifted with graphics, this is purely to communicate the concept for a better wallet background. Improvements to this are obvious, but you get the idea: Un logo and microscope overlaid on a vault door, which is befitting of wallet software). Cheers.

[BlueMan.]

https://twitter.com/CaptChadd/status/610510637425381377
"Just to let everyone know. My Hero level account on BitcoinTalk has been banned + locked without even a word from an Admin. #BitcoinTalk"

I'm not shedding any tears. Plenty of other forums for him to scam on.

Do you have something you'd like to share with the group?

Yes I do. Unobtanium is a much better crypto asset than this, or so I thought. Invitation of shady developers cheapens it to me, and this is supposed to be "rare".  I fully expect a Gekko rant in response to this.

 WTF guys?
          
  " Invitation of shady developers "

 ..."My Hero level account on BitcoinTalk has been banned + locked without even a word from an Admin"

 So they banned or hacked the Blazr2 acc. too?

 Are we need to do some independent forum?....The Blue forum on our own site like unobtanium.uno or  @IMZ forum

 @Blazr2:    IS THERE ANY WAY SO YOU CAN BE OUR LEAD DEV. And be HERE around for the future? Because come and go is not fun for any of us ,honestly !!!!

[HagbardCeline]

"Lead Dev" is not in the cards for me at the moment; however I am back and will lend my support. I've been in touch with FallenKnife even during my hiatus from BTCTalk, but real life had until recently plagued my time for coins and code.

Time is beginning to loosen for me though, so yes, I can pledge to stick around, but lets not label me just yet, let me get back in to the swing of coins a bit more first. @IMZ I plan to see you all soon at the guild as well.

~Edit: having some time to work with the Qt again today, hopefully have something to play with later today!

[Krypto Superdog]

 @Blazr2:    IS THERE ANY WAY SO YOU CAN BE OUR LEAD DEV. And be HERE around for the future? Because come and go is not fun for any of us ,honestly !!!!

don't scare him away, man!

welcome back, Blazr!  your new coin is cool; my spouse and I are greatly amused by your discordian trilogy

[digitalgold]

Hey Guys,

Digital Gold is now back online and Uno has kept it's place!

We have updated our pool to a UNOMP (Unified Node Open Mining Portal) and already have an amazing turnout!

We offer instant payouts to your address with no sign up needed and a 1.5% fee to help pay our dedicated server running cost.

Current hashrates.
Algo        Miners    Hashrate
sha256       1      26.09 GH
x11          1      116.94 MH
scrypt     3     1.50 GH

http://pool.digitalgold.co/

Thank you in advance for support us! We love Uno!

Best regards

Digital Gold

[BlueMan.]

"Lead Dev" is not in the cards for me at the moment; however I am back and will lend my support. I've been in touch with FallenKnife even during my hiatus from BTCTalk, but real life had until recently plagued my time for coins and code.

Time is beginning to loosen for me though, so yes, I can pledge to stick around, but lets not label me just yet, let me get back in to the swing of coins a bit more first. @IMZ I plan to see you all soon at the guild as well.

~Edit: having some time to work with the Qt again today, hopefully have something to play with later today!

Whatever you decide We are very happy to have you back. I sent you 148 blue Un kilos from my personal collection . Latter going to send you more.

[BlueMan.]

 @Blasr2 Please put your receive Un address on your signature

[HagbardCeline]

@Blasr2 Please put your receive Un address on your signature

Will do, its the same one I've always used: uVjbsx6tAhySeJpN7xLBieAzWcD7rEVmYp

Cheers and thank you for the Un!

[learminer]

Good to see you again Blazr2, welcome home!   

siameze, woah that escalated fast! In the short time you've been here I've come to appreciate your knowledge and input, I hope you won't turn your back on us forever. We need critical thinkers and knowledgable folks like yourself. Uno has (at least since after the Wolong days)  never been a dev-driven coin, it has always been about us, this community here. That is not going to change. If you don't entirely trust a new dev, why not stick around and help make sure Uno stays on track with the rest of us?

On another topic, I'm experimenting with creating a small Utility/ticker app for Uno, targeted towards a Windows store release later this year. Any features in particular you folks would be looking forward to and find usefull? So far I've implemented a price ticker and coin stats (basically what's already runnig at unobtanium.uno), but I'm thinking about adding charts, live tiles, notifications etc. if there's any interest. Oh and its got switchable themes, one of which our resident BlueMan would love.

[BitcoinCharlie]

@learminer

I don't exactly know what the ticker looks like, are you going to offer quotes from all $UNO exchanges?

If so, how about a detailed quote on a hover of the mouse over the price and then a direct open of the trading page of the respective exchange with a click upon it?

[learminer]

@learminer

I don't exactly know what the ticker looks like, are you going to offer quotes from all $UNO exchanges?

If so, how about a detailed quote on a hover of the mouse over the price and then a direct open of the trading page of the respective exchange with a click upon it?

If you check the exchange section of unobtanium.uno that's basically the ticker I've got implemented right now. So I've got current price (in BTC), volume and links for the top 4 UNO exchanges. What it has (that unobtanium.uno doesn't) is auto-updates (every 90 seconds, could be configurable, might be limited by exchange API).

I'm not sure wether its worth putting much more effort into the exchange details, as everyone that wants really detailed features, like charts, orderbooks etc. is probably using tools like coinigy or cryptrader already. But I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking. If showing more details is of interest, like the orders or something similar as additional details I'll see what I can do.

The app is for you so don't be afraid to tell me what you're looking for. If its beyond my time limit or skillset I can always ignore it.

[IMZ]

" . . . at this stage in the coin's life, the community would not sit idly by in case of dev shenanigans."

Nope. They wouldn't.

I hope Siameze stays.

1.0 wallet open.

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[learminer]

Here's a screenie of the current version  of the app with the 3 different themes applied. All data is fetched live form the block explorers and exchanges. As I said its very basic, just refactored and added a little to my existing codebase from unobtanium.uno as an experiment. But it's already packaged and running as a windows app locally (running snap mode in the screenie, works in full screen too but with a lot of wasted empty space, lol).

[cragv]

That's really cool, learminer. Well done, love your work!

[IMZ]

Well done, Learminer!

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[hazenyc]

So he concluded that the Scrypt algorithm somehow gave a coin it's value? That doesn't even make sense and makes his conclusion suspect. Bitcoin dwarfs all other alt-coins combined in terms of pretty much all those factors and does not use the Scrypt algorithm, therefore the Scrypt algorithm has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Here's a link to the episode:  https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/the-bitcoin-game-18-jeremy-gardner-adam-hayes

He looked at "66 commonly traded altcoins against bitcoin".  So in his analysis, of those alts, Scrypt algo apparently did better over other algos.  

I'm not sure what time period he used, but you know crypto - much can change quickly (see $UNO hash rate).  I think he did solid work using the data he had available to him at the time.  From the sound of it there was visual info accompanying his presentation - I'd like to see the $UNO data.  As it is - I thought the info was very positive for Unobtanium.  

I very seriously doubt it had anything to do with the algorithm. Scrypt was the second successful algorithm to come out, so it has the majority of the non-SHA256 traffic and really the only one to have ASICs built for it. I can in no way see how the choice of algorithm makes a single tiny bit of difference to the miner, as miners will mine whatever is the most profitable with the hardware they have. I doubt many of the people (if any besides myself and a few others) in this thread can even describe any of the algorithms or how they work, so why would they care? They don't.

Anyway, that'd kind of off topic. I think he should have left the algorithm bit out of the whole thing, as it is a red herring and data puffery.

Don't be confused - all this points to (scrypt vs SHA) is this: the harder it is to mine an otherwise identical coin, the higher its cost of production. Factors that tend to increase cost of production therefore increase the exchange value (as evidenced by the data and statistical analysis).
In terms of the data the t-statistic was very highly significant (p < 0.0000) for that variable.

It is comparing apples to oranges with ASICs, but the point is that the higher the cost of production the higher relative value.

[rojan]

Don't be confused - all this points to (scrypt vs SHA) is this: the harder it is to mine an otherwise identical coin, the higher its cost of production. Factors that tend to increase cost of production therefore increase the exchange value (as evidenced by the data and statistical analysis).
In terms of the data the t-statistic was very highly significant (p < 0.0000) for that variable.

It is comparing apples to oranges with ASICs, but the point is that the higher the cost of production the higher relative value.

Thanks for popping in with this clarification.

What Factors Give Cryptocurrencies Their Value: An Empirical Analysis - http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2372041

"The model may be able to offer some insight into the value of bullion or metal-based commodity money, if there is enough theoretical basis to draw analogies from.... If this is even loosely the case, it may provide some insight into cryptocurrencies as being more aptly branded 'cryptocommodities'."

2 other papers there also. A Cost of Production Model for Bitcoin. And, The Decision to Produce Altcoins: Miners' Arbitrage in Cryptocurrency Markets.