[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[IMZ]

Just readin.' EVERYONE worked really. I just scored lucky at the bank. Back on Friday.

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[learminer]

Well there is no official element 120 on the periodic table. Although I can find a lot of references to a hypothetical chemical element 120 called "Unbinilium" or "Ubn". Would be interesting to hear Blazr's thought on this.

[FallingKnife]

AltExplorer is back.  

http://altexplorer.info/chains/UNO/block_crawler.php

Seems to be working. While it's not quite as pretty as it used to be, it is always useful to have another 0.9.5 node on the network.

[BitcoinNational]

http://www.straighttoale.com/contact/

(Politely) email; and post on Facebook; send a Tweet: 'Unobtanium for Unobtanium!!'

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must obtain beer

[FallingKnife]

Next week another exchange will add UNO/USD pairing.
I'm sworn not to say who. 
I think any reliable new market for Uno is a step in the right direction and demonstrates the continued and growing interest in our favorite coin.
It should be announced next week.

[FallingKnife]

The Price of BTC is getting good!  I see a Uno accumulation opportunity for new USD.

[BitcoinCharlie]

Next week another exchange will add UNO/USD pairing.
I'm sworn not to say who. 
I think any reliable new market for Uno is a step in the right direction and demonstrates the continued and growing interest in our favorite coin.
It should be announced next week.

+1 If it's a major, you better buy more UNO now b/c it will launch with the pairing!

 

[V500]

been away a few days. Lots of interestings going on.

-Cryptsy new coldwallet is ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju , correct? Still too fat!  
-now traded on bleutrade, and more usd-exchange coming - good news!!
-Uno community sponsores young visionary and cleanup of the oceans through 'blue crypto award'
You make me proud! Best charity in crypto so far! (my personal, biased opinion of course  )


@'how does uno react to falling btc?'

i seen people sell alts because of a rising and because of a falling btc.
I think if btc would crash and burn tomorrow, uno wouldn't suffer so much - uno/btc would continue to climb; if btc on the other hand would shoot up 150% over night uno vs btc would surely suffer for a few hours/days before moving even higher (see october/november 2013). $-exchangerate was very stable and reliable for very long time. I don't worry about that a lot.
I'd anticipate uno rising mid/longterm in any case against the USD. (only my 2 cents, no actual advise of course)

I have no idea what's wrong with bitcoin (besides the inflation), that shit never gets off the ground apparently. Something is wrong there. I see clear signs of pre-bubble-time in alts but the old bitcoin can't get off the ground somehow. I think this time good alts are going to make even more bank than they did last time. If Bitcoin continues to do as bad as it does: until the next halving for btc in 2016, uno and other alts will have taken a large piece of that pie if BTC really doesn't get anywhere before the halving. Price in btc for the good alts is just going to go higher and higher if btc continues being manipulated to not get off the ground. Anyone thought of the possibility of china or some other gov buying large amounts in the past to sell at a loss later to keep it down?
Wouldn't that make some sense for them? Or is it just my paranoid brain? Stolen Gox-coins still being sold? Something isn't quite right with btc. Maybe we find out later.

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Well there is no official element 120 on the periodic table. Although I can find a lot of references to a hypothetical chemical element 120 called "Unbinilium" or "Ubn". Would be interesting to hear Blazr's thought on this.

that's interesting!
"Since unbinilium should be placed below the alkaline earth metals it possibly has properties similar to those of radium or barium."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbinilium

i still can't believe Uran-wallet was a coincidence, if it was one, well that was an epic coincidence.

about Unbinilium:
-doesn't occure naturally
-is not yet verified to exist
-It is possibly a radioactive alkali earth metal.
-possibly radioactive
-Eka-Radium
-Unbinilium is theoretically part of a so called "isle of stability" / "magic numbers" in physics  (!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(physics)

So if it would exist, it would be expected not to decay as fast as its neighbours.

no shit!

More:
There have been at least two scifi-stories about Element 120


"In the story, element 120 was the start of a series of elements which were the reverse of unstable."

In this story element 120 leads to extinction of humans and spawns a new civilisation of robots


In this other scifi-story about Element 120 it is found on the dark side of the moon after some nuclear experients and is a trans-uran needed to safe humanity. (same author, same element, other story)

Interesting to say the least. I wonder if Blazr2 was aware of the scifi-stories.

[BitcoinNational]

"the isle of stability"

:: aka UNO ::

It does not decay.
The magic is in the numbers.  
The count rare and fair.
The bedrock of crypto stability.
Non-inflationary.

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@V500
awesome report

I feel better about #120
(maybe we can go to block speed 120 ... next year ... blazr??)

[V500]

what's going on with mintpal? Dancing like Coinex? Shifting blame? Nobody in charge? How many Uno is missing? I was able to withdraw all mine. What's the damage? Not more than 1 ton from everyone combined, is it? Hope everyone was able to withdraw their uno.

edit:
found this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.0

it says 255 uno missing (2btc worth / roughly 0.05% of all the missing funds)

... less than 0,2% of supply. Won't have such a negative impact on the market like coinex did, which is good news. 255 is much less than i would have thought. Well done containing the damage as much as possible, everyone! 

[disamsal]

well i still have some UNO @cryptorush 

[IMZ]

Welcome, Disamsal!

Those guys at Unbreakable Auctions? 'Kay, who remembers Sears and Roebucks Catalogs? We can turn Un-Ex into that: comics, beer, bullion -- anything that can be mailed.

M

[balu2]

turns out: 13th of october dump was a noob. Where is that guy now? I got orders for cheap coins. Not getting filled for weeks? Dumps please? 

[FallingKnife]

what's going on with mintpal? Dancing like Coinex? Shifting blame? Nobody in charge? How many Uno is missing? I was able to withdraw all mine. What's the damage? Not more than 1 ton from everyone combined, is it? Hope everyone was able to withdraw their uno.

edit:
found this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.0

it says 255 uno missing (2btc worth / roughly 0.05% of all the missing funds)

... less than 0,2% of supply. Won't have such a negative impact on the market like coinex did, which is good news. 255 is much less than i would have thought. Well done containing the damage as much as possible, everyone!  

I've been keeping a private tally as people let me know about their MP losses. I know it is at least 500 Uno.  255 of that was me, trying to provide some liquidity for that market.
It would be easy to estimate at least 2 thousand Uno on MP (maybe more), based on what I remember about the order book.  I don't think there was gigantic amount of Uno entrusted to MP, but certainly enough to account for some large recent dumps.

One of the original MP founders wrote today that some altcoin cold storage wallets were retrieved from MP v1 servers. He stepped up to pay the server bill out of his own pocket so they wouldn't be destroyed by the hosting company. I asked him today if Uno was among those recovered and am hoping he gives a response.

[V500]

what's going on with mintpal? Dancing like Coinex? Shifting blame? Nobody in charge? How many Uno is missing? I was able to withdraw all mine. What's the damage? Not more than 1 ton from everyone combined, is it? Hope everyone was able to withdraw their uno.

edit:
found this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.0

it says 255 uno missing (2btc worth / roughly 0.05% of all the missing funds)

... less than 0,2% of supply. Won't have such a negative impact on the market like coinex did, which is good news. 255 is much less than i would have thought. Well done containing the damage as much as possible, everyone!  

I've been keeping a private tally as people let me know about their MP losses. I know it is at least 500 Uno.  255 of that was me, trying to provide some liquidity for that market.
It would be easy to estimate at least 2 thousand Uno on MP (maybe more), based on what I remember about the order book.  I don't think there was gigantic amount of Uno entrusted to MP, but certainly enough to account for some large recent dumps.

One of the original MP founders wrote today that some altcoin cold storage wallets were retrieved from MP v1 servers. He stepped up to pay the server bill out of his own pocket so they wouldn't be destroyed by the hosting company. I asked him today if Uno was among those recovered and am hoping he gives a response.

So their  'coldstorage' wasn't a coldstorage at all? Interesting.
Can they maybe provide some of their adresses? If we do the old 'let's follow the coins we deposited to them back then' we could maybe find out if the dump of 2 weeks ago really was them or not. Can they provide their "coldstorage" adresses?
Oh, what a mess that shop is  

As always: i don't believe a word they say.
Can't be so stupid to buy an exchange but not get it handed over properly. Either total amateurs or lying to their teeth.

Watching it. Their twitter is such a drama.

[IMZ]

Coindesk: check the article on the gambling site knocking back US customers.

Mintpal: I will.eventually understand enough to pull my weight

M

[V500]

@FK

i don't think it was as much as 2k
There wasn't more than 800 on the books before migration (more like 300 to 500). Hard to tell now. 
I was able to withdraw my coins after migration so not 100% of coins have been lost there. 

It certainly would help if we could get adresses from their "coldstorage" to see the coins on the explorer. I'll be asking too. That's the least they should be able do for us.

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I'd suggest to people to send FK in some way a message (can be anon) if you have uno locked in MP so we can get a better picture of what the potential damage is. I personally hope it won't be huge amounts.

[FallingKnife]

what's going on with mintpal? Dancing like Coinex? Shifting blame? Nobody in charge? How many Uno is missing? I was able to withdraw all mine. What's the damage? Not more than 1 ton from everyone combined, is it? Hope everyone was able to withdraw their uno.

edit:
found this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.0

it says 255 uno missing (2btc worth / roughly 0.05% of all the missing funds)

... less than 0,2% of supply. Won't have such a negative impact on the market like coinex did, which is good news. 255 is much less than i would have thought. Well done containing the damage as much as possible, everyone!  

I've been keeping a private tally as people let me know about their MP losses. I know it is at least 500 Uno.  255 of that was me, trying to provide some liquidity for that market.
It would be easy to estimate at least 2 thousand Uno on MP (maybe more), based on what I remember about the order book.  I don't think there was gigantic amount of Uno entrusted to MP, but certainly enough to account for some large recent dumps.

One of the original MP founders wrote today that some altcoin cold storage wallets were retrieved from MP v1 servers. He stepped up to pay the server bill out of his own pocket so they wouldn't be destroyed by the hosting company. I asked him today if Uno was among those recovered and am hoping he gives a response.

So their  'coldstorage' wasn't a coldstorage at all? Interesting.  

They may not have had enough Uno to bother with cold storage.
I've been digging around in the rockchain based on a few transfers I made to and from MP. It all seems to lead to just hot wallets and not cold storage.

I think this is a list of MP hot wallets, based on Chainz' taint function:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/wallet.dws?54813.htm

If you sent Uno to MintPal, do you find any of your MP deposit addresses in this list?

Its all just speculation. I should have kept better records I guess. If these tainted wallets really are connected to MP, we're looking at only about 1320 Uno left out there. It makes my head hurt to try and follow this stuff.

[V500]

@FK
you're probably right about them not having coldstorage for uno

I see approx. 1300 on the explorer. That's an amount that i would feel is about right they could have held. But in case the taintanalysis would be correct  there would still be some hope since the coins are still in those adresses. Would be good to get that verified by Moolah.

[FallingKnife]

@FK
you're probably right about them not having coldstorage for uno

I see approx. 1300 on the explorer. That's an amount that i would feel is about right they could have held. But in case the taintanalysis would be correct  there would still be some hope since the coins are still in those adresses. Would be good to get that verified by Moolah.

Yeah, 1.3 ton feels about right for that market.
Here's the actual deposit I made to one of my MintPal addresses:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?ue2rgaZY5xU8eCDBARMbWeZUTxvKvS7kYV.htm

I remember I was cautious about MP at the time, so I first sent a 1 un transaction to make sure it would arrive.  

All of the coins I deposited are still in that MintPal Uno address, even though I have withdrawn about 150 Uno and only had 255 on account at the time they went down. Somehow, they just never got around to tapping this wallet.

We can keep an eye on this wallet. If it moves, then it's because MP/Alex Green is moving it.