[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Merge Mine w/BTC! - Update NOW to qt 0.11.5

[FallingKnife]

130 uno for 1 btc is cheap uno, no matter what the price of bitcoin is.



P.S.  How many posts do you have to have to break out of newbie status?

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[vector.iso]

You just described UNO - that's great!

charly asked what's special about it.
haha
I see. He wanted to know QCN

Special about QCN is its very, very low marketcap and still active community and running chain. If it doesn't die now it'll survive and make good bank
It's not as rare as uno but still has a good reward-shedule. I am not putting a lot of money in it but for a little gamble, why not? I think it's under value compared with the rest of the market.

Don't let yourself be too distracted by that  

18.4 million coins, 50% will be emitted in 6 years. They are 6 months old, so lots of coins yet to come, whereas Un has largely made it through the emission phase. I wish them well, but I don't see them as very rare, or comparable in inflation to Un for probably the next six years. I also like mining with cheap asics; Cpu mining just ticks me off.

quite right. Maybe i should hold off for another 3 or so years  
Probably just the bitcoin pump got me and i thought i was smart for buying low cap coins  

just say NO to shitcoins!

[learminer]

Of course Bitcoin is on a pump, but considering UNO's history we shouldn't judge the coin based on that. If the support keeps rolling in like it did yesterday we might just see 600-700$ Btc again before the year is over (with a few corrections along the way). That would be good for all cryptos IMO, especially for solid alts like LTC or UNO, we could profit from a strong BTC and get a nice boost.

[BitcoinCharlie]

130 uno for 1 btc is cheap uno, no matter what the price of bitcoin is.



P.S.  How many posts do you have to have to break out of newbie status?

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0 Posts: Brand New
0 Activity: Newbie
30 Activity: Jr. Member
60 Activity: Member
120 Activity: Full Member
240 Activity: Sr. Member
480 Activity: Hero Member

What exactly is an "activity?"

I'm fairly certain that an activity is a post to a public forum. Only the first 14 posts during a 14 day period count toward the member's ranking status.

[Benefactor]

Beauty



Keep it in the 8's, now, K?

    

[balu2]

Keep it in the 8's, now, K?

     

should be working. I think most who can't handle the 8 should be out  

buywall on 73 is epic

[BitcoinNational]

Unobtanium 는 아기 에뮤를 마스코트로 두고 있습니다.:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/932818/lightbox/post/14309971/id/6626530
Our Favorite Aussie Korean speaking EMU ... some day soon The Supreme Leader shall point to you and smile with pride 
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moving up in the world ... cuz we're zero gravity inflation
 



 
... who's NXT on our hit list ...

XC ... we can see you from here!
PTS ... what you doing down here?  oh yeah not so fair
via
ix ... had you passed (but the TWin is past inflationary so light on gravity too!)
mona ... here kitty kitty
URO
CANN ... we did do it!
WORLD
MEGA
NOVA
VERT ... meet your inflationary fate
Anon
pot
mAx
Veri
naut
rZr ... ouch hit $20k
dev
mint
librex
ARCH
sync

[IMZ]

And here's Uno the Chick ('Back Yard Chickens') struttin' his stuff in Korean:

http://bithub.co.kr/n_news/board/view.html?page_code=comu&board_code=20140823234933_9990&no=14

[balu2]

will we get an ETF going in the distant future after btc has achieved that?
This should be top priority after bitcoin has paved the way imo.
What cap will we roughly need to apply?
Maybe good to bring up a little debate already?
Uno should be the first alt to follow btc in that direction. Would be great, wouldn't it?
I think that will be worth the paperwork  

[IMZ]

Hedges, Balu2, are specifically an experiment in this theoretical field -- but without the notorious problems. Study on this will be well rewarded. It's an open secret -- in exact psrallel with run-amuk Fractional Reserve Banking -- that there is as little as 5% of the issued-on-paper bullion actually in the vaults.

Google what happened when the German GOVERNMENT asked for its gold back.

I extend this wariness to any and every crypto that claims to be pegged -- same basic problems apply.

Now, Hedges are micro and complex and having trouble taking off because of low Ag and Btc prices, but the cote principle is fine: instead of 'them' holding the bullion -- centralised -- WE hold the bullion.

Feel free to hang out on Un-Ex, and help me advance the project!

M

[FallingKnife]

@balu2 that's an interesting idea.  To dip our toe in the water, does anyone have any experience creating NXT asset classes? Perhaps we could tie up some Un in that manner and get Un listed on an NXT asset exchange.

[BitcoinNational]

@balu2 ... good thinking, and IMZ was way ahead on this one.
The Hedges are exactly that ETF, and the F = .999 fine 2oz of shiny silver.
Get in on the game  


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Re: the bigger picture

We don't need to be on Wall St.
We create our own institution the P2P ETFs backed by UN Clearing House International.

Plus I can go from cash in my pocket to holding an UNHedge in about 1hr (really ... cash>btc>uno>UNhedge)
Can you do that with the big boys ETFs?

1.  Winkivoss twins couldn't be more pure blue blood WASP elitist ... they ARE the essence of the ivy league ... they stink of bloody old money and privilege. Wink Wink is highly connected to the powers that be.  AND they are stuck +18months in review/approval

2.  We need to be about X5 bigger than LTC to even consider paying the legal cost of round 1 of discovery/filing.

3.  The old system is BROKEN, let it go.  It's (mostly very) dead Jim.

4.  You can back UNO with a Wall St. ETF // it's easy all you have to do is set up a peg clearly define that X uno = Y wall street trade certificates (and Honestly honor this promised price index // building trust in the p2p trust network).  UNO is the superblock of this new p2p trust network ... and it will expand to include peers in all well organized coin communities.  Welcome to the NEM  

5.  If we really, truly, desperately yearn to be "Listed and High Frequency Trade" ... go around the wall NOT through the wall.  We can buy control of an already listed (yet very small) company.  DING! _{ps ... doesn't even have to be a Yankee registered company.}  


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That said I am very interested in exploring an UNO backed 'asset'.
We should do them all >> NXT, BTSX, CP, and even a dogeparty.  
We need to keep some continuity (use the same formula) but different players can manage/back the assets.
(do this to prevent public confusion)  

BUT ... I'm not well informed (cuz I've avoid these 3rd Party coins) so guessing that the asset would be like the BitUSD or a NuBit?  1=1?  

@ anyone that is familiar with NXT, BTSX, CP
What can we do?  And How?  

[balu2]

nooo guys, not little games. Forget betatesting NXT. I am talking wallstreet and other stockexchanges around the world. Winkelvoss-style. Apply for an ETF at the stockmarkets. You go there with a few tons Uno and that backs the ETF and the stockbrokers can trade uno like a stock without having to worry with all the technical stuff.
They can throw money at it without having to worry about backups, hardforks and scam-exchanges you know? If they like it, they want more coins. That's how you actually sell coins to wallstreet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange-traded_fund

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112890/the-winklevoss-brothers-say-their-etf-is-still-going-through-the-regulatory-process

first they get bitcoin, later they get uno in the exact same way.
Think big!

If they like bitcoin etf they will love uno etf!

They are going to buy tons and tons

[BitcoinNational]

@balu2 ... see point #5 

[balu2]

i don't care so much about homegrown, non-elitist and grassroots when we can get the most epic moneyinjection and blast uno to a billion marketcap, you know?  

Those little things are nice, sure. I am talking about opening uno up to real big money (give international stockmarkets easy access to uno).

We can still launch our private new rebelcoin later after we became filthy rich.   (or just retire on the money and do the rest of your life charity only, make world better, what ever - once you have more money than you ever need things become a lot easier)

Just watch what happens with bitcoin etf once that goes live. Bitcoin will tripple in value in a week. Just wait for it and be prepared to send uno the same way.

All we need to do is read up on it, get a lawyer and apply. If btc can do it, uno can too. If it trades successfully they are going to want more. Why not sell 10% or 20% to the stockexchanges?  I have to read up on it. Maybe a single person can do it too. What you gonna do if i buy up 2% of supply and sell it to wallstreet? You going to be mad at me for that?    If Vikelfoss can do it, one of us can do it too.
Uno is perfect for an ETF. If the coin is going to be big and around for long time it is going to happen anyways.

(going to be off for a few hours. I'll be back later)


again in short: you apply for a license. The ETF is traded exactly like a stock of a company.  Stock-brokers buy shares in the ETF. The ETF is backed by x amount Uno. So x amount is bought and sold to the ETF so they can speculate on uno without getting their hands dirty in this crypto-mess. Will make uno go to the moon and also good PR.
If they like the performance of the uno commodity they are going to demand more.  It's potentially epic demand. Far more than what you could get from crypto-space which is dry anyways because of the scams.
We just keep doing our thing (trading it higher) and they can speculate on the price. Only difference will be Uno is not 3$ but maybe 200$ or more. I hope you get the spin  

(done editing. See you in a bit.)

[balu2]

have just read your response BN, you're a smart guy too.

We can keep doing everything as before only difference: wallstreet gets a piece of the pie and in return uno gets pumped by them. Win-Win.
We just need to be one of the first alts to do so before that market is saturated.

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[Mike18feb]

I want to be a smart guy too! Where can i sign up? 

[balu2]

I want to be a smart guy too! Where can i sign up? 

just send the fee of 0.5 btc to [1Shre.....] and you'll get the certificate

ok, now finally off

[Benefactor]

I want to be a smart guy too! Where can i sign up? 

just send the fee of 0.5 btc to [1Shre.....] and you'll get the certificate

ok, now finally off

You are not accepting UNO?!!  What's this "btc" schtuff?  Now we've falled back into the 7's!   

[BitcoinCharlie]

@balu2 ... good thinking, and IMZ was way ahead on this one.
The Hedges are exactly that ETF, and the F = .999 fine 2oz of shiny silver.
Get in on the game  


---

Re: the bigger picture

We don't need to be on Wall St.
We create our own institution the P2P ETFs backed by UN Clearing House International.

Plus I can go from cash in my pocket to holding an UNHedge in about 1hr (really ... cash>btc>uno>UNhedge)
Can you do that with the big boys ETFs?

1.  Winkivoss twins couldn't be more pure blue blood WASP elitist ... they ARE the essence of the ivy league ... they stink of bloody old money and privilege. Wink Wink is highly connected to the powers that be.  AND they are stuck +18months in review/approval

2.  We need to be about X5 bigger than LTC to even consider paying the legal cost of round 1 of discovery/filing.

3.  The old system is BROKEN, let it go.  It's (mostly very) dead Jim.

4.  You can back UNO with a Wall St. ETF // it's easy all you have to do is set up a peg clearly define that X uno = Y wall street trade certificates (and Honestly honor this promised price index // building trust in the p2p trust network).  UNO is the superblock of this new p2p trust network ... and it will expand to include peers in all well organized coin communities.  Welcome to the NEM  

5.  If we really, truly, desperately yearn to be "Listed and High Frequency Trade" ... go around the wall NOT through the wall.  We can buy control of an already listed (yet very small) company.  DING! _{ps ... doesn't even have to be a Yankee registered company.}  


---
That said I am very interested in exploring an UNO backed 'asset'.
We should do them all >> NXT, BTSX, CP, and even a dogeparty.  
We need to keep some continuity (use the same formula) but different players can manage/back the assets.
(do this to prevent public confusion)  

BUT ... I'm not well informed (cuz I've avoid these 3rd Party coins) so guessing that the asset would be like the BitUSD or a NuBit?  1=1?  

@ anyone that is familiar with NXT, BTSX, CP
What can we do?  And How?  

I'm of the opinion to forget the ETF concept. That's Wall Street, I'm more ideological on the matter of UNO.  I prefer to do things "in house" as opposed to letting the entrenched interests dictate what UNO becomes.

However, as an open community, there's nothing stopping those that wish to go that route from heading there. I simply prefer IMZ's hedge model.