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March 11, 2021, 09:26:34 AM
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I wonder what kind of bettor will have the heart to spend money earned from betting on people's misery. If a bettor bets on increased death rate and the death rate increases, his/her earning could be considered blood money. Better not to reward that kind of prediction..
Prediction market has to Moral

Well, you do have a point when it comes to moral things but people who do bet into those increasing deaths wouldn't really be taking this as a serious issue when it comes to moral aspects.

This is just business and as long they can make money with it then it wouldn't matter but lets not hope for those increase of deaths.


Ofcourse. That's depends on whether they know what they are doing is wrong, assuming they are personally benefitting from the deaths.
If they are doing it unintentionally, that's is a different issue, but if after being warned and they understand the moral issue and the bad consequences, then they are aware already and would need to change.
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March 11, 2021, 09:51:40 AM
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If you want to offer some bets according to the covid situation, then you have to be fast because in some months the covid will be over because of the vaccination program  Grin
nice tip but who knows? the spread is continuously happening and if this continue then we will be seeing this covid staying for the rest of this year even that the vaccine has already here.
and besides even if the betting continue , for sure the team will update the offering once the whole world declared as covid free specially those country that has been mentioned in the said predictions.
Ofcourse. That's depends on whether they know what they are doing is wrong, assuming they are personally benefitting from the deaths.
If they are doing it unintentionally, that's is a different issue, but if after being warned and they understand the moral issue and the bad consequences, then they are aware already and would need to change.

Sorry mate but what's wrong in asking a prediction about the potential death counts?

This is awareness and just making it a gambling option for betting but we all know that the whole world is waiting for this result , so what is Immoral in this predictions?

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March 11, 2021, 11:43:49 AM
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I can not find where to set the unit for my bitcoin. I checked two places: Preferences and Bitcoin wallet.
I would like to change it from m₿ to BTC. How to change this setting? I would prefer to see my balance in BTC, not mBTC.
No, you can't find it in the setting. Simple way is you must write in memory, 1 mBTC = 100,000 satoshi = 0.001 BTC.

I guess so when I can not find that setting option anywhere. If your confirmation is true, the  Futuur team can consider about it. Maybe it is me with my preference to see my balance in BTC. Even it is 0.005 BTC, I am more familiar with it and would prefer to have an option to switch from mBTC to BTC for my balance display.

I admitted that I know about the bitcoin units: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Units but I sitll feel not comfortable with it.

It is not an impossible modification and it is about convenience.

Plus one for this. I agree. I am also confused sometimes with mBTC. That is not the usual unit used outside gambling platforms. Mostly, it is being used in gambling but since a lot are more exposed to just pure BTC or Satoshis as units then it should just be provided as an option. That's to avoid confusion that might amount to a different bet unintentionally.

I think the reason why mBTC is being commonly used among betting platforms is that Bitcoin's price is now very high. It is not expected that gamblers will be betting whole BTC or even 0.5 BTC or lower. It is expected that majority of the gamblers will be betting with mBTC amounts
Everyone predicts that BTS will grow and approach $100,000 or even more.  Then 1 mBTC will be = $100, because now it is = $50+.  
This unit of measurement BTC should be gradually reduced by an order of magnitude or two, or even three.  Maybe it is already necessary to switch to microBTC.  I'm not talking about Satoshi, they are still too small for use in serious gambling.  But let's see, I think the community itself will soon begin to use something like microBTC.

Later on we cannot avoid using smaller units under Bitcoin. In gambling especially where amounts usually played are relatively smaller, mBTC will prove to be too high. For now we can of course make use of fractions of mBTC such as 0.5 mBTC or 0.1 mBTC which amount to 0.0005 BTC or 0.0001 BTC respectively.

If Bitcoin's price will rise to as high as $100,000, it is not at all bad to use sats like 1k sats or 500 sats.
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March 11, 2021, 09:09:51 PM
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I wonder what kind of bettor will have the heart to spend money earned from betting on people's misery. If a bettor bets on increased death rate and the death rate increases, his/her earning could be considered blood money. Better not to reward that kind of prediction..
Prediction market has to Moral

Well, you do have a point when it comes to moral things but people who do bet into those increasing deaths wouldn't really be taking this as a serious issue when it comes to moral aspects.

This is just business and as long they can make money with it then it wouldn't matter but lets not hope for those increase of deaths.

Ofcourse. That's depends on whether they know what they are doing is wrong, assuming they are personally benefitting from the deaths.
If they are doing it unintentionally, that's is a different issue, but if after being warned and they understand the moral issue and the bad consequences, then they are aware already and would need to change.


Who would really be warning out those people? This is a personal issue because no one would really be stopping you on what are the things you do have in mind
and on what are the things you should do.I dont consider those unintentional issues because its clear as day if its really that moral to make out bets on
people's lives.I dont know on what consequences you've been talking on because there are no such rules or laws about these kind of betting lines.
It is just matter on someones conscience if he can really afford to make out these kind of bets.

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March 12, 2021, 06:42:43 AM
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Any news or Upcoming event Futuur team?

it's been months when you first draw your first event here in bitcointalk forum, Hope there will be another one soon.

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March 12, 2021, 10:07:56 AM
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I wonder what kind of bettor will have the heart to spend money earned from betting on people's misery. If a bettor bets on increased death rate and the death rate increases, his/her earning could be considered blood money. Better not to reward that kind of prediction..
Prediction market has to Moral

Well, you do have a point when it comes to moral things but people who do bet into those increasing deaths wouldn't really be taking this as a serious issue when it comes to moral aspects.

This is just business and as long they can make money with it then it wouldn't matter but lets not hope for those increase of deaths.

Ofcourse. That's depends on whether they know what they are doing is wrong, assuming they are personally benefitting from the deaths.
If they are doing it unintentionally, that's is a different issue, but if after being warned and they understand the moral issue and the bad consequences, then they are aware already and would need to change.


Who would really be warning out those people? This is a personal issue because no one would really be stopping you on what are the things you do have in mind
and on what are the things you should do.I dont consider those unintentional issues because its clear as day if its really that moral to make out bets on
people's lives.I dont know on what consequences you've been talking on because there are no such rules or laws about these kind of betting lines.
It is just matter on someones conscience if he can really afford to make out these kind of bets.

I tried to post this👇last month(26/02/2020) but had some network issues, so I saved the post for another opportunity.


Wish the betting is more solution/skill-based than mere betting . I have noticed couple of things that could be abused if safe bet isn't practiced. I wouldnt encourage betting on events that can result to problems rather than solve problems. For example: "Will earth be destroyed next 5 years?"  , "Will another deadly disease/disaster happen next year?", etc.
Yesterday I perceived that people who bet on future problems will be tempted to see them come true just to win their bets. I have previously warned that desperate people could even encourage the  problems just to win their bet or people would be divided/split along what they bet for and we will have the kind of things that happen in politics where people are divided along what choose to side rather than unite for common solutions.

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March 12, 2021, 09:53:42 PM
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Just now I read in the news that 100 million Americans have been vaccinated against the coronavirus.  Biden promised to do this 100 days after his inauguration.  However, only 60+ days have passed.  So this dispute can already be considered over. 
By the way, I didn’t believe that it would work, but maybe it didn’t work because it was taking into account the vaccinations until January 20, even under Trump. Smiley

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March 13, 2021, 02:21:28 AM
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Just now I read in the news that 100 million Americans have been vaccinated against the coronavirus.  Biden promised to do this 100 days after his inauguration.  However, only 60+ days have passed.  So this dispute can already be considered over.  
By the way, I didn’t believe that it would work, but maybe it didn’t work because it was taking into account the vaccinations until January 20, even under Trump. Smiley
That's it , it is not only in credit to Biden since he is the newly elected president but the effort of the past administration
in which under Donald Trump that started it all and also planned this even before Biden announced this into His account once confirmed .



Even how they claim the credit yet american knows what's the truth behind .



But congrats to those who bets for YES because you can surely claim your wins .

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March 13, 2021, 03:08:49 AM
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I'm so surprised the team has reduced the minimum withdrawal from 2 mBTC to 1 mBTC

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*Minimum Withdraw is 1.0 m₿
**a 0.4 m₿ flat fee is charged by the provider



But, the fee (0.4) may be still high.

I am also not sure if the user has free balance from registered can be withdrawing, maybe they have some requirement such as a minimum of a wager?.

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March 13, 2021, 09:44:54 AM
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I'm so surprised the team has reduced the minimum withdrawal from 2 mBTC to 1 mBTC

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*Minimum Withdraw is 1.0 m₿
**a 0.4 m₿ flat fee is charged by the provider



But, the fee (0.4) may be still high.

I am also not sure if the user has free balance from registered can be withdrawing, maybe they have some requirement such as a minimum of a wager?.
That's nice, reducing the withdrawal fee. Probably they did it because of the current value of bitcoin? When my balance is on my Futuur wallet, the price of bitcoin was below $20,000, that time, the withdrawal fee is already at 2mBTC. Probably it would be better if the fee that the provider takes for withdrawals should also be decreased a little bit. Just my opinion, but I'm fine with everything for Futuur.

Please add e-sports predictions too Cheesy

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March 14, 2021, 04:53:13 AM
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I'm so surprised the team has reduced the minimum withdrawal from 2 mBTC to 1 mBTC

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*Minimum Withdraw is 1.0 m₿
**a 0.4 m₿ flat fee is charged by the provider



But, the fee (0.4) may be still high.

I am also not sure if the user has free balance from registered can be withdrawing, maybe they have some requirement such as a minimum of a wager?.
Yeah actually i have been mentioning that for few times here that the fee is really high though it is best for High withdrawals as it is fixed and not affected when the congestion happens in Bitcoin transactions .



One thing is when will be other coins available for depositing ? i believe that this has Been discussed months ago yet no confirmation from the team?

It will helps small time gamblers to Put their funds in which not affected of High transaction fees now .

Dogecoin,Litecoin,Tron or even (Ripple) if necessary .

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March 14, 2021, 07:30:44 PM
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So when you look at the market prediction 72% vs 28% does not mean 72% will win I did this in esports matches Flamengo x Rensga https://futuur.com/q/128351/flamengo-x-rensga 
when 10 people voted for Flamengo as the winner I myself choose Rensga and the final result Rensga wona fortune of 1% can change the final result  Roll Eyes

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March 14, 2021, 10:30:20 PM
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I'm so surprised the team has reduced the minimum withdrawal from 2 mBTC to 1 mBTC

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*Minimum Withdraw is 1.0 m₿
**a 0.4 m₿ flat fee is charged by the provider

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But, the fee (0.4) may be still high.

I am also not sure if the user has free balance from registered can be withdrawing, maybe they have some requirement such as a minimum of a wager?.
Yeah actually i have been mentioning that for few times here that the fee is really high though it is best for High withdrawals as it is fixed and not affected when the congestion happens in Bitcoin transactions .



One thing is when will be other coins available for depositing ? i believe that this has Been discussed months ago yet no confirmation from the team?

It will helps small time gamblers to Put their funds in which not affected of High transaction fees now .

Dogecoin,Litecoin,Tron or even (Ripple) if necessary .

regarding withdrawal fees, i hope the team will put an option like slow or fast. and the fast will be that 0.4mB, and the slow depends on them (at least lower than 0.4mB). looking forward also to see other alts. at least add one like doge. so players have other options to deposit and withdraw, which will incur them lower fees. and yes, it has been months that has been suggested here. i hope futuur team is working on this option.

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March 15, 2021, 07:03:59 AM
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Plus one for this. I agree. I am also confused sometimes with mBTC. That is not the usual unit used outside gambling platforms. Mostly, it is being used in gambling but since a lot are more exposed to just pure BTC or Satoshis as units then it should just be provided as an option. That's to avoid confusion that might amount to a different bet unintentionally.
I choose BTC as a unit in my wallet and honestly I have to pay a little second to think of mBTC when I checked my account. Although I know that the mBTC unit is used by gambling sites but it won't harm if the Futuur team consider to give users 2 options. Who like BTC unit, choose it and who don't like it, let's choose mBTC unit. It can be integrated as optional preferences for users.

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I think the reason why mBTC is being commonly used among betting platforms is that Bitcoin's price is now very high. It is not expected that gamblers will be betting whole BTC or even 0.5 BTC or lower. It is expected that majority of the gamblers will be betting with mBTC amounts
It is what gamblers prefer. They would prefer to use small altcoins as Dogecoin to bet with hundred or thousand of Dogecoin rather than choose 1 mBTC to bet. Big quantity looks more attractive than small quantity no matter how much does it cost.

Your comment make sense for the future, so what unit gambler will prefer when 1 BTC has a value of $1,000,000.

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regarding withdrawal fees, i hope the team will put an option like slow or fast. and the fast will be that 0.4mB, and the slow depends on them (at least lower than 0.4mB). looking forward also to see other alts. at least add one like doge. so players have other options to deposit and withdraw, which will incur them lower fees. and yes, it has been months that has been suggested here. i hope futuur team is working on this option.
Good suggestion as we are all affected of this High fees in regards to withdrawals.

I remember one time that I badly need my Funds and check it for withdraws and suddenly my remaining Funds(Because of Multiple Losses in Bets) is 0.002Bitcoin and since the Fee is 0.4 mB i almost Got nothing to take so all i have to Do is sell all my remaining Bets just to get decent withdraws .

Having an Option is the best idea for the benefits of Both the Site provider and us gamblers who's playing in their site constantly .

But it's a good News that the Minimum Withdraw comes .001BTC in which now can be done easily even from small gamblers .









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March 15, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
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One thing is when will be other coins available for depositing ? i believe that this has Been discussed months ago yet no confirmation from the team?

It will helps small time gamblers to Put their funds in which not affected of High transaction fees now .

Dogecoin,Litecoin,Tron or even (Ripple) if necessary .
I'm quite confident that they are planning to implement that. Not now, but I'm sure soon so they could add some possible users to their site. Before that, I think they should add something very unique and attractive to their marketing strat. Anyways, I don't hear much from them recently.

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regarding withdrawal fees, i hope the team will put an option like slow or fast. and the fast will be that 0.4mB, and the slow depends on them (at least lower than 0.4mB). looking forward also to see other alts. at least add one like doge. so players have other options to deposit and withdraw, which will incur them lower fees. and yes, it has been months that has been suggested here. i hope futuur team is working on this option.
Good suggestion as we are all affected of this High fees in regards to withdrawals.

I remember one time that I badly need my Funds and check it for withdraws and suddenly my remaining Funds(Because of Multiple Losses in Bets) is 0.002Bitcoin and since the Fee is 0.4 mB i almost Got nothing to take so all i have to Do is sell all my remaining Bets just to get decent withdraws .

Having an Option is the best idea for the benefits of Both the Site provider and us gamblers who's playing in their site constantly .

But it's a good News that the Minimum Withdraw comes .001BTC in which now can be done easily even from small gamblers .

they already lowered their min withdrawal amount, so i think they will find a way also to include the options for withdrawing, just like what i suggested above (slow or fast, low or high priority). whatever they can come up with, at least provide an option as it will greatly help for small time rollers. in this way, they may attract more bettors. and those small time players, once you combined the revenue coming from them, you will be surprised how much you can get from them.

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March 16, 2021, 02:54:55 AM
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I wonder what kind of bettor will have the heart to spend money earned from betting on people's misery. If a bettor bets on increased death rate and the death rate increases, his/her earning could be considered blood money. Better not to reward that kind of prediction..
Prediction market has to Moral

Well, you do have a point when it comes to moral things but people who do bet into those increasing deaths wouldn't really be taking this as a serious issue when it comes to moral aspects.

This is just business and as long they can make money with it then it wouldn't matter but lets not hope for those increase of deaths.


Ofcourse. That's depends on whether they know what they are doing is wrong, assuming they are personally benefitting from the deaths.
If they are doing it unintentionally, that's is a different issue, but if after being warned and they understand the moral issue and the bad consequences, then they are aware already and would need to change.

Let's Just enjoy the game Mate , if you don't want to gamble then it's fine but don't try to hinder others that just want to bet for what the site offers.

and besides we are not making fun of the death toll Instead we are just seeing the future what can bring to the world.
Everyone of us are monitoring the death tolls anyway.









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...//...:
The last message they launched was this:

Hi everybody, thanks for all the comments, ideas & suggestions, we really appreciate them and are working on implementing many of them. 

From reviewing this forum, here are the ones we are working on:

• Add ability to bet with other lower-fee cryptocurrencies
• Add new sports: Cricket, Golf, Volleyball, and more E-sports


Are there any other requests from folks?  If so, let us know here!  And remember, you can always suggest new markets here:
https://futuur.com/i/feedback/suggestion

We have paused the sig campaign for now, but will continue to post here and plan to offer some new competitions in the future, so keep an eye out!

Perhaps in the short term they will add some exclusive activity for the forum, but in the message they are clear in their priorities in the short term, in any case not a month has passed after that announcement, but this is a thread to see  "future," maybe hitting the date of the next bitcointalk exclusive event can start to win some odds if you propose a date and what kind of event. Smiley

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Ofcourse. That's depends on whether they know what they are doing is wrong, assuming they are personally benefitting from the deaths.
If they are doing it unintentionally, that's is a different issue, but if after being warned and they understand the moral issue and the bad consequences, then they are aware already and would need to change.

Sorry mate but what's wrong in asking a prediction about the potential death counts?


My friend, I wonder how you will feel if those kind of predictions are done on your love ones or people you deeply care about. Would you tolerate it especially if the predictors benefit financially from your misery?
By the way, if predictions like that become necessary, qualified people should be used and they must be precised as possible, plus give sufficient and well researched reasons for their predictions, so we don't have people carelessly betting on "millions will die" for selfish gain.
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