2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers

[snipie]

it is probably good for earning additional money, and nothing else
with 2 years period between world cups, where do you fit continental cups (Euro, Copa America, AFCON that is currently held?)

Part of FIFA's claims is that this will generate more revenue and in turn they will be able to distribute the money better across the federations.
They want to reduce the number of qualifications, and to be able to distribute the test places better.

Despite all these claims, few people connected to football can understand the advantages.

One thing is for sure, club and country competitions will almost certainly soon undergo profound changes. Will it be good for the show and for the fans? We'll see...

World Cup every two years is feasible and the other competitions could adapt their schedule to be in between. For example World Cup 2022-2024-2026, the others 2023-2025-2027 but of course they have to get ride from useless competitions like Nations Leagues.. and mix AFCON with qualifiers or dunno

[FanEagle]

I don’t agree with you and no one who loves this sport will, because the World Cup is precious because it’s played only one time in four year’s, and by playing it in every two year’s they’re killing the glory associated with this cup and I’ll be totally disappointed if they succeed.

Also you don’t understand if it’s every two year’s there’s no competition for the place’s, the player’s will skip it as there’s no glory left in it and slowly we’ll see b team playing for their country’s, and then we’ll truly regret why didn’t we stop this from happening but it’ll be too late.

I am guessing that it is a bit more about money. So, assuming let's say you make 1 money for every 4 years, but if you do it every 2 years then you start making 0.6 money per 2 years, that is still 1.2 per 4 hours when you combine it. So that could be a great reason for Fifa to consider something like that. You dropped 40% in value, and income, but you increased because it is every 2 years instead of 4 and that is still a decent idea to be fair.

I am not saying that they will do it, maybe they won't do it but there is at least a bit of reason behind something like that which I could totally understand. Otherwise, if I were to decide which one was better, I would say 4 years as well, it just doesn't make sense to make it that frequent, plus the continental cups would collide with the world cup in that situation, now we have European cup and 2 years later world cup, then 2 years later European again and so forth, it is easier that way.

[Boristhecat]

World Cup every two years is feasible and the other competitions could adapt their schedule to be in between. For example World Cup 2022-2024-2026, the others 2023-2025-2027 but of course they have to get ride from useless competitions like Nations Leagues.. and mix AFCON with qualifiers or dunno

Taking into account the qualifying cycles, the load on the players will increase very much (even now it is prohibitive), which means that this will lead to the players ignoring some tournaments. Or even clubs will ban them from participating in international matches. Therefore, such changes can lead to the opposite effect - they will reduce the attractiveness of national team matches for spectators.

[joker_josue]

World Cup every two years is feasible and the other competitions could adapt their schedule to be in between. For example World Cup 2022-2024-2026, the others 2023-2025-2027 but of course they have to get ride from useless competitions like Nations Leagues.. and mix AFCON with qualifiers or dunno

But FIFA idea is to make there less qualifying periods, and in turn make other competitions suppressed or serve as a way to qualify some teams.

Imagine that the results of a European, serve to find part of the countries that qualify for the world.
I'm not saying that's what they plan to do, but the idea they convey is a bit like that.

[Sithara007]

Why worry about the fact that not all players get to the World Cup when we have club football and everyone understands that the real struggle is there? National football is a kind of lottery, just a beautiful carnival, you should not take it seriously.

Can't agree with what you have posted. I am a big fan of club football. But when it comes to global tournaments like the FIFA World Cup and the Euro Cup, the excitement level is more and there is a sense of patriotism for the fans. You won't get the same feeling with club football. Global tournaments are exciting to watch, because players are representing different countries. And in club football it is money that matters. The smaller ones will be having hardly any chance of a win against the richer clubs.

[Tony116]

Why worry about the fact that not all players get to the World Cup when we have club football and everyone understands that the real struggle is there? National football is a kind of lottery, just a beautiful carnival, you should not take it seriously.

Can't agree with what you have posted. I am a big fan of club football. But when it comes to global tournaments like the FIFA World Cup and the Euro Cup, the excitement level is more and there is a sense of patriotism for the fans. You won't get the same feeling with club football. Global tournaments are exciting to watch, because players are representing different countries. And in club football it is money that matters. The smaller ones will be having hardly any chance of a win against the richer clubs.

Actually, this is a topic which varies from person to person and I know to a lot of people it seems like club football is all there is.

But national football is also really important. There was a time when I also thought that international football is not that important but now I do understand that international football is as important as club football. And it's also important for a player to represent his national team in bigger stages and also the biggest stage which is the World Cup.

[KTChampions]

Why worry about the fact that not all players get to the World Cup when we have club football and everyone understands that the real struggle is there? National football is a kind of lottery, just a beautiful carnival, you should not take it seriously.

Can't agree with what you have posted. I am a big fan of club football. But when it comes to global tournaments like the FIFA World Cup and the Euro Cup, the excitement level is more and there is a sense of patriotism for the fans. You won't get the same feeling with club football. Global tournaments are exciting to watch, because players are representing different countries. And in club football it is money that matters. The smaller ones will be having hardly any chance of a win against the richer clubs.

This kind of atmosphere and unity only happens when big teams clash, but you have to agree that in the case of small teams (Sweden, Wales, Norway, Egypt, etc.) the situation is different. Everyone knows that Salah (or Haaland) has no chances to achieve serious achievements with the national team, so there is a touch of disappointment, while in club football everything depends on the player and if he tries he can climb to any top. In this sense, I consider international football to be very unfair and therefore I prefer to treat it as entertainment rather than as something serious.

[3meek]

Lots of good matches tomorrow!

Ecuador vs Brazil
Paraguay vs Uruguay
Chile vs Argentina

The chances of winning any of the matches are very high! It will probably be hot after a break of almost two months!
The other group with USA, Canada and Mexico is not as interesting, perhaps only the Costa Rica vs Panama match will be unpredictable!

[Iranus]

Lots of good matches tomorrow!

Ecuador vs Brazil
Paraguay vs Uruguay
Chile vs Argentina

The chances of winning any of the matches are very high! It will probably be hot after a break of almost two months!
The other group with USA, Canada and Mexico is not as interesting, perhaps only the Costa Rica vs Panama match will be unpredictable!

I think in these three matches, I say Brazil wins against Ecuador. Uruguay wins against Paraguay.

But the third one, Argentina VS Chile, is a really interesting one.
They go way back. Argentina has lost against Chile in real big stages. These teams have formed quite a rivalry between them and I think this should be a high-scoring match.
Argentina should be prepared for them this time. I will back Argentina to win this match. And for that to happen, Messi needs to be on the scoresheet.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Lots of good matches tomorrow!

Ecuador vs Brazil
Paraguay vs Uruguay
Chile vs Argentina

The chances of winning any of the matches are very high! It will probably be hot after a break of almost two months!
The other group with USA, Canada and Mexico is not as interesting, perhaps only the Costa Rica vs Panama match will be unpredictable!

You forgot to name Venezuela vs. Bolivia, which is one of the games that, despite the fact that Venezuela is already eliminated, can complicate the classification of many teams, including the classification of Colombia, because now they have the Technical Director José Pekerman, and this technician does not he knows the word defeat, for now he caught a totally fallen and exhausted Venezuelan team, but in the same way I think that Venezuela will make itself felt in these qualifying finals, at this moment in reality who would worry me about winning against Venezuela, which I think that it will not be easy at all and more so those teams that need those 3 points.

[wxa7115]

Great idea. Just in this case, the second round of qualification (global) will be a kind of world championship for weak teams. And I would love to see how, for example, "average" teams in Africa play against similar teams from America, Europe and Oceania. It would be super interesting. I think everyone is tired of watching the teams constantly boil in the same cauldron of confederation tournaments.

Surely it's very good and acceptable idea, but it's not easy for anyone to do this all because this need very long process and some good hassle for FIFA and other Federations as well with we already have very packed leagues seasons and very small window for International matches it's not easy to do this all specially when we are going to have covid19 issue around us, and it's not going to leave us normal in long term basis. Still, very good as we will have some tough competitions and many new teams will also have some chance to quality for next round with have equal basis chance against good teams.

To be honest, I do not understand such reasons "it's difficult." It turns out that FIFA wants to hold the World Cup every two years and it's not difficult (although this is complete nonsense), but is it difficult to make logical transformations? I think it's a matter of desire. From a business point of view, such changes will be beneficial to everyone and will greatly increase the interest of viewers in the qualifying matches.

From my point of view, the world cup is something precious. As it comes once every 4 years, it has a meaning to people.
Generally, the team wins the world cup, is the best team and that's the way it should be regardless of the players that team has.

Now imagine that the world cup happens once every 2 years then it didn't have that type of importance to anyone. And people have passed a lot of difficult times before, and I don't see any reason to suddenly make the world cup happen once every two years. Seems like money is never enough for FIFA, is it?

I agree, I am not against a business trying to make more money, however it is incorrect to do so by diluting the quality of the product they are offering, expanding the number of teams that qualify to the world cup should be more than enough, after all it is not as if soccer fans can watch all the games anyway as that will require a huge effort.

But holding the cup every 2 years will lower the impact of winning the world cup in a significant way and the prestige of the competition will go down, something that is undesirable no matter how we look at it.

[snipie]

World Cup every two years is feasible and the other competitions could adapt their schedule to be in between. For example World Cup 2022-2024-2026, the others 2023-2025-2027 but of course they have to get ride from useless competitions like Nations Leagues.. and mix AFCON with qualifiers or dunno

But FIFA idea is to make there less qualifying periods, and in turn make other competitions suppressed or serve as a way to qualify some teams.

Imagine that the results of a European, serve to find part of the countries that qualify for the world.
I'm not saying that's what they plan to do, but the idea they convey is a bit like that.

Yeah that's what I meant by the example of AFCON, they are already playing and we have at some point 8 in the finals. Dunno how much will relocate in the African continent in the future but assuming it is 5 like now then the 4 that will reach semifinals will progress and the winner between the other 4 will pass with them. No need for qualifiers, same applies for the other competitions.

[Barcode_]

Even though it seems highly unlikely for Vietnam to gain any points in this group now with the performance of their team, but I think it is still a good learning experience for the players of Vietnam in their national football team. Almost all of the players in the Vietnam national football team are only playing in their domestic football league, and I guess they seldom have chances to compete with high quality football teams at international level. Vietnam will be playing against Australia today but I think this will be an easy match for Australia to beat Vietnam again.

[D-law]

Why worry about the fact that not all players get to the World Cup when we have club football and everyone understands that the real struggle is there? National football is a kind of lottery, just a beautiful carnival, you should not take it seriously.

Can't agree with what you have posted. I am a big fan of club football. But when it comes to global tournaments like the FIFA World Cup and the Euro Cup, the excitement level is more and there is a sense of patriotism for the fans. You won't get the same feeling with club football. Global tournaments are exciting to watch, because players are representing different countries. And in club football it is money that matters. The smaller ones will be having hardly any chance of a win against the richer clubs.

They're both important, playing at the club level and national level.
They all contribute completely to a player's profile as a footballer.
But then, nothing beats the feeling of representing your badge, and winning in the process while doing this, this is just too unique.

[joker_josue]

Even though it seems highly unlikely for Vietnam to gain any points in this group now with the performance of their team, but I think it is still a good learning experience for the players of Vietnam in their national football team. Almost all of the players in the Vietnam national football team are only playing in their domestic football league, and I guess they seldom have chances to compete with high quality football teams at international level. Vietnam will be playing against Australia today but I think this will be an easy match for Australia to beat Vietnam again.

That's another good thing, these qualifying rounds of national teams. It gives the opportunity for lesser-known players who only play in their country to be observed at an international level and to have an opportunity to be signed by clubs in other countries.

[KTChampions]

Ecuador - Brazil

3.25 - 2.90 - 2.37

Easy money? The only danger is that Brazil, which has already decided for itself all the tournament tasks, will not have the motivation to play at full strength.

Chile - Argentina

2.70 - 2.90 - 2.75

An interesting, but even from the point of view of the bookmakers, a completely random match. I have no idea what bets are relevant here.

[W Jr.]

it is probably good for earning additional money, and nothing else
with 2 years period between world cups, where do you fit continental cups (Euro, Copa America, AFCON that is currently held?)

Part of FIFA's claims is that this will generate more revenue and in turn they will be able to distribute the money better across the federations.
They want to reduce the number of qualifications, and to be able to distribute the test places better.

Despite all these claims, few people connected to football can understand the advantages.

One thing is for sure, club and country competitions will almost certainly soon undergo profound changes. Will it be good for the show and for the fans? We'll see...

World Cup every two years is feasible and the other competitions could adapt their schedule to be in between. For example World Cup 2022-2024-2026, the others 2023-2025-2027 but of course they have to get ride from useless competitions like Nations Leagues.. and mix AFCON with qualifiers or dunno

Making the world cup in two-year periods wears out the players a lot. Also, big teams may not send their important players to the tournament. After that, the world cup may not matter. After all, how can a country without the most important players achieve success? Football is an industry right now. In this industry, bosses get what they want. That's why I don't think there will be a tournament every 2 years.

[onecall123]

Ecuador - Brazil

3.25 - 2.90 - 2.37

Easy money? The only danger is that Brazil, which has already decided for itself all the tournament tasks, will not have the motivation to play at full strength.

The rest of the Qualifiers have gone well for Ecuador and the country is only behind Argentina and Brazil in the standings. They have a good chance against Brazil. I prefer to stick with the dominant South American team. Do they expect to play at full strength? If so, the game will end in a draw.

[Joca97]

Ecuador - Brazil

3.25 - 2.90 - 2.37

Easy money? The only danger is that Brazil, which has already decided for itself all the tournament tasks, will not have the motivation to play at full strength.

The rest of the Qualifiers have gone well for Ecuador and the country is only behind Argentina and Brazil in the standings. They have a good chance against Brazil. I prefer to stick with the dominant South American team. Do they expect to play at full strength? If so, the game will end in a draw.

This odd is big for some reason. Maybe a lack of players that are coming to play for Brazil or something. If that is not the case then this odd on Brazil so big that everyone must take an advantage of it. Dosetn matter even how good Ecuador is playing at this qualifers.

[tyz]

World Cup every two years is feasible and the other competitions could adapt their schedule to be in between. For example World Cup 2022-2024-2026, the others 2023-2025-2027 but of course they have to get ride from useless competitions like Nations Leagues.. and mix AFCON with qualifiers or dunno

So a big tournament every year? This would completely destroy the charm and value of these competitions. If you add the club competitions, then the viewer is already completely saturated with football, so why shorten the period for global competitions like the World Cup?