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Mercedes decided to withdraw their last appeal and I wasn't surprised by it. FIA weren't going to acknowledge Mercedes to be right anyway. In this sport, we shouldn't see this kind of incidents. FIA are making this sport seem worse when they make such decisions. They should act without favouring any side. This was definitely a big disrespect to Mercedes that they didn't even care about their point. Maybe they will "review" their decision but it wouldn't change anything probably.
Guessing by your nickname, I believe you are really disappointed But yes, too much politics. Probably(?) decision would be different if there were more than 1-2 laps left - then overlapped cars would not be a problem for Max (on a new tyres). Anyway I think that decision about Spa was worst - they just stole fans' money.Luckily Sportsbet.io seemed to agree with those sediments and decided to payout those who took Hamilton as the winner on their betslips as described in this from the Sportsbet.io Ann thread just a little while ago: -snip- Also, on some other news.. for all you Formula 1 fans out there.. It has no doubt been a pretty huge couple of days after the fall out of the last race of the season. We certainly saw a season that will go down in history as one of the best ever, regardless of your favorite drivers and opinions of events. Our Sportsbet Director Joe Mac had no hesitation in choosing to payout all bets as winners for both Lewis and Max Race Winner and F1 Drivers Championship market. Hoping some of you were on those markets! regards, Steve. Sportsbet.io It is kind of Sportsbet to make payment to the bettors who placed a bet on Hamilton to win the title. If I'm not mistaken, Sportsbet made the payments of the bets won and refunded the lost ones for the Belgian GP. I hope that they can have a live bet service for the next F1 season.
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As expected, Mercedes probably requested FIA to just destroy the current power structure and that is how they agreed to withdraw the appeal. I mean this couldn't continue but the fact that there would be a lot of people who are at power and a lot of people who would be checking those powers doesn't change it, the fact that rules will be changed is the most important thing right now.
There isn't anything that is as great as the rulebook being a loophole heaven where the race director could literally give the race to one or the other based on whatever power he has at that moment. Which is why it is smart to change the rulebook and make it rock solid and there wouldn't be anything at all that would be subjective, everything will be based on the rules and everyone will be equals.
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Mercedes still see Lewis Hamilton as their own champion of the season even though FIA made a big mistake and didn't accept it. And Hamilton fans welcomed him very warmly. It was really hell of a season that we saw every kind of incident happened. By the way, FIA president has changed and Mohammed bin Sulayem has been elected as the new president. He is a very experienced former driver who became rally champion so many times. I wonder if there will be something changing in F1 as of now. Maybe we could start seeing fairer decisions about sensitive incidents from now on and I hope so.
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Mercedes still see Lewis Hamilton as their own champion of the season even though FIA made a big mistake and didn't accept it. And Hamilton fans welcomed him very warmly. It was really hell of a season that we saw every kind of incident happened. By the way, FIA president has changed and Mohammed bin Sulayem has been elected as the new president. He is a very experienced former driver who became rally champion so many times. I wonder if there will be something changing in F1 as of now. Maybe we could start seeing fairer decisions about sensitive incidents from now on and I hope so.
Felicitaciones. He was a 14-time Middle East Rally Champion. My earnest wish and desire is that he continues his great career as a driver by bringing innovation and more popularity to motorsport and fair race director to F1, because it needs it right now. If the FIA do not have heads rolling before the start of next season, then I would not be surprised to see Sir Lewis never step back into F1.
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Hamilton is a driver whose talent level is way higher than Verstappen. And I don't think that some other driver will be able to break the records that Hamilton did for a long time period. The only reason why people support Verstappen who is an arrogant driver is that Hamilton has been dominating F1 for a long time and people just want a change.
I think that is bound to happen in any sport, people like winners but when someone dominates for so long and with such a large margin over the rest of the participants then it becomes boring. If anything this has the chance to increase the popularity of F1, after all if next season we see Hamilton once again head to head with Verstappen then that rivalry will bring more viewers, similar to what we saw with Federer and Nadal at Tennis.
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Hamilton is a driver whose talent level is way higher than Verstappen. And I don't think that some other driver will be able to break the records that Hamilton did for a long time period. The only reason why people support Verstappen who is an arrogant driver is that Hamilton has been dominating F1 for a long time and people just want a change.
I agree with you, because everything starts to get boring and tedious when we don't see anything else changing. Even for Hammilton, we know he was frustrated with the loss that was somehow unfair (not guilty but unfair), but wasn't that more thrilling? One more challenge for next season where he will get in a car and think: "I'm not invincible anymore, I need to run even better instead of starting to settle down and thinking I'll easily receive my trophy."
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Hamilton is a driver whose talent level is way higher than Verstappen. And I don't think that some other driver will be able to break the records that Hamilton did for a long time period. The only reason why people support Verstappen who is an arrogant driver is that Hamilton has been dominating F1 for a long time and people just want a change.
I agree with you, because everything starts to get boring and tedious when we don't see anything else changing. Even for Hammilton, we know he was frustrated with the loss that was somehow unfair (not guilty but unfair), but wasn't that more thrilling? One more challenge for next season where he will get in a car and think: "I'm not invincible anymore, I need to run even better instead of starting to settle down and thinking I'll easily receive my trophy." I stopped watching F1 many many moons ago when Michael Schumacher was so dominant to the point where every race win became kind of predictable. Now that Hamilton has been beaten to the championship this year It hopefully makes next season that bit more exciting, every sport needs a shake-up. OK Hamilton may be the better driver but the excitement is to see that top driver pushed...and beaten.
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I stopped watching F1 many many moons ago when Michael Schumacher was so dominant to the point where every race win became kind of predictable. Now that Hamilton has been beaten to the championship this year It hopefully makes next season that bit more exciting, every sport needs a shake-up.
OK Hamilton may be the better driver but the excitement is to see that top driver pushed...and beaten.
You probably just missed the most epic world championship ever. This year will be remembered for decades like the year of Senna-Prost. Next year will probably have a shuffle but maybe they will always have these 2 teams dominating, nobody can predict it. For sure if another team will have a good idea for the top 3 teams will be easier to copy the idea and recover.
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I stopped watching F1 many many moons ago when Michael Schumacher was so dominant to the point where every race win became kind of predictable. Now that Hamilton has been beaten to the championship this year It hopefully makes next season that bit more exciting, every sport needs a shake-up.
OK Hamilton may be the better driver but the excitement is to see that top driver pushed...and beaten.
You probably just missed the most epic world championship ever. This year will be remembered for decades like the year of Senna-Prost. Next year will probably have a shuffle but maybe they will always have these 2 teams dominating, nobody can predict it. For sure if another team will have a good idea for the top 3 teams will be easier to copy the idea and recover. Well I didnt see many races but have been following the adventures of Max because we have connections to The Netherlands and would be rooting for him. I remember the Senna-Prost early 90's era along with Schumacher, Hill and Alonso rivalries, I will be paying more atention next year, hopefully the challenge will continue. If its as close next year it will be difficult to bet on winners.
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Hamilton is a driver whose talent level is way higher than Verstappen. And I don't think that some other driver will be able to break the records that Hamilton did for a long time period. The only reason why people support Verstappen who is an arrogant driver is that Hamilton has been dominating F1 for a long time and people just want a change.
I agree with you, because everything starts to get boring and tedious when we don't see anything else changing. Even for Hammilton, we know he was frustrated with the loss that was somehow unfair (not guilty but unfair), but wasn't that more thrilling? One more challenge for next season where he will get in a car and think: "I'm not invincible anymore, I need to run even better instead of starting to settle down and thinking I'll easily receive my trophy." I stopped watching F1 many many moons ago when Michael Schumacher was so dominant to the point where every race win became kind of predictable. Now that Hamilton has been beaten to the championship this year It hopefully makes next season that bit more exciting, every sport needs a shake-up. OK Hamilton may be the better driver but the excitement is to see that top driver pushed...and beaten. All thats happened during the season and especially for the championship race makes for good material towards the next Drive to Survive series on Netflix. If you haven't watched it yet I recommend you do so to catch up on the past three seasons of the documentary in the world of F1 and it's drivers. https://www.engadget.com/recommended-reading-netflix-formula-1-drive-to-survive-150045531.htmlIt turned me into an instant fan only after watching the first season. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/17/netflixs-drive-to-survive-americans-f1-fansSeason 4 will have all the drama, excitement and also the controversy to make it the best one yet.
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The season we have just left behind was just insane. I assume that we saw nearly everything we could see in a competitive F1 season. Especially the last races were incredibly exciting. I watched all of the seasons of the Drive to Survive documentary on Netflix also. And I'm really looking forward to watching the new season. Because it is going to be so exciting as we will see a lot of drama considering the race for the title especially.
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Honestly as soon as Liberty Media got the rights to F1 and all, they started doing amazing marketing and they have been doing this Netflix series as a new fresh blood thing. I remember watching maybe 15 years ago, and I restarted watching 2-3 seasons ago because of it basically, not because I watched it, I didn't but I saw it and I went "wait a minute why don't I watch F1 directly instead of this thing" and cameback watching it all over again. Honestly it has been amazing fun this season, doesn't matter if you are a Max fan or Lewis fan or just F1 fan, you must be feeling amazing after a season like that because it was really close. I am guessing the season of drive to survive regarding this season will be one of the most watched seasons ever, it is really awesome. You also got to see some stuff that you haven't seen before which is why it is definitely awesome. Like we all saw Grosjean thing, but we never really knew what really happened, watching it really put a lot of perspective into it.
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Honestly as soon as Liberty Media got the rights to F1 and all, they started doing amazing marketing and they have been doing this Netflix series as a new fresh blood thing. I remember watching maybe 15 years ago, and I restarted watching 2-3 seasons ago because of it basically, not because I watched it, I didn't but I saw it and I went "wait a minute why don't I watch F1 directly instead of this thing" and cameback watching it all over again. Honestly it has been amazing fun this season, doesn't matter if you are a Max fan or Lewis fan or just F1 fan, you must be feeling amazing after a season like that because it was really close. I am guessing the season of drive to survive regarding this season will be one of the most watched seasons ever, it is really awesome. You also got to see some stuff that you haven't seen before which is why it is definitely awesome. Like we all saw Grosjean thing, but we never really knew what really happened, watching it really put a lot of perspective into it. Only last Monday we were chatting about the Netflix Drive to Survive, I only thought there was one series which I watched with Intrigue. That show has really grown interest for the sport which lets face it to many its just cars going round, and around, and around . . . Until that show I didnt realise the busines was so cut-throat. I didnt realise there were other series, I will be sure to catch these over the holidays.
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Until that show I didnt realise the busines was so cut-throat. I knew it was bad, but I didn't expect it to be this bad. I've watched them all, I can't wait for the new batch. And I now have... quite some more sympathy for certain drivers... It's clearly eye opening, it clearly worth watching.
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The new season of the Drive to Survive documentary is on the way. And we are going to be able to watch it some time in 2022 seemingly. I can't wait to see the new season after leaving an unbelievable season behind. I already watched all of the three seasons and enjoyed each one of them a lot. I can't even imagine the rate of enjoyment of the coming season. I hope that they make a great season and make us happy.
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Hamilton is a driver whose talent level is way higher than Verstappen. And I don't think that some other driver will be able to break the records that Hamilton did for a long time period. The only reason why people support Verstappen who is an arrogant driver is that Hamilton has been dominating F1 for a long time and people just want a change.
I agree with you, because everything starts to get boring and tedious when we don't see anything else changing. Even for Hammilton, we know he was frustrated with the loss that was somehow unfair (not guilty but unfair), but wasn't that more thrilling? One more challenge for next season where he will get in a car and think: "I'm not invincible anymore, I need to run even better instead of starting to settle down and thinking I'll easily receive my trophy." yeah Hamilton is a very experienced driver and experience is not enough to win you 7 WC so he definitely have talents as we all saw that in his first year he was very close on winning his first WC if he didn't have Alonso as teammate he would have won cause both drivers were aiming for the championship but Kimi won it by one point at the end. So that's something that clearly makes you think that Hamilton is considered the best out there its true Mercedes dominance helped with his records bur still car will not drive by itself.
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Hey guys, need a bit of help and I need it quick. Shopping for last minute present for a big F1 fanatic. Is there some good streaming service which has all F1 races that you guys can recomend? I found just this one: https://f1tv.formula1.com/Has anybody used it? It is expensive as hell for streaming service. Was hoping to find something a bit cheaper but it must work flawlessly and without VPN.
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https://f1tv.formula1.com/Has anybody used it? It is expensive as hell for streaming service. Was hoping to find something a bit cheaper but it must work flawlessly and without VPN. This is the official one. I am not sure if any other purely online service has a license for streaming. Usually rights for F1 are bought by big companies, public or private TVs. And what is funnier, F1 sells license per country, so one company may publish it in one country but not in another (for example see here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleven_Sports). Maybe you may find something "not really legal" which is re-streaming races from official sources, but it is a risky gift - could be shut down in the middle of season. If not official F1 service, why not to check giants like Eurosport ? It may depends in which country you want to watch it.
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Honestly it didn't change my view towards the drivers, I am not fan of it too much, drive to survive makes it too "entertainment" for me. I see this as a very cut throat thing and even 0.50 seconds is a huuuuge thing here. Imagine someone having 0.5 seconds slower reaction time when starting out, that would be basically killing that persons race as a whole, hell Max had 0.1 seconds slower than Hamilton at the start of Abu Dhabi and we all saw how further back he was at the start because of it.
Long story short I watch this as a "gladatorial" thing and not as a fun entertainment thing, I want to see the fastest cars and the best drivers. All those mazepin type of stuff and pay drivers and netflix and all those things done to make some more money really hurts my fun and I do not know what to do about it but I just can say it makes the sport worse.
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Hey guys, need a bit of help and I need it quick. Shopping for last minute present for a big F1 fanatic. Is there some good streaming service which has all F1 races that you guys can recomend? I found just this one: https://f1tv.formula1.com/Has anybody used it? It is expensive as hell for streaming service. Was hoping to find something a bit cheaper but it must work flawlessly and without VPN. I was using it years ago when it was free they had a lot of services like the "real-time monitor". Idk if they still have it basically is a real-time for every driver with micro sectors, like the monitor engineers, look in the team in the qualify. Source: https://external-preview.redd.it/0Z0kEAKW69zAEEMEunKfYcbtDsySvxS1JIiRIvjTEVM.jpg?auto=webp&s=8bef9561ed5e0fc0a1d074462e233b78a957e123Idk if they still have it, I've abandoned the website when they made it premium.
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