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Yeah, feel like an idiot picking the Dutchie for pole when LeClerc was clearly doing very well in practice. He's been the one, dropping points all season long I have, doing this. But the race will be another matter, and I expect Verstappen to again show his climbing prowess (and then defending nous).
Anyway, race in 2 hours. Might tune in here and there if I manage to avoid my Sunday comatose. Podium could have 3 different teams I feel!
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How bad its Ferrari doing? take a look on this.
Red Bull - Ferrari gap in constructor championship: 80 points.
Ferrari - Mercedes gap in constructor championship : 38 points.
So Mercedes its more close to Ferrari than Ferrari close to Red Bull. And this with a really bad Mercedes, imagine if Mercedes have a good car to fight. Good bye to Ferrari chance to win constructor if that pass.
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June 12, 2022, 05:04:31 PM |
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How bad its Ferrari doing? take a look on this.
Red Bull - Ferrari gap in constructor championship: 80 points.
Ferrari - Mercedes gap in constructor championship : 38 points.
So Mercedes its more close to Ferrari than Ferrari close to Red Bull. And this with a really bad Mercedes, imagine if Mercedes have a good car to fight. Good bye to Ferrari chance to win constructor if that pass.
Judging by the retirement of two cars of the main team due to technical problems and two more cars from the client teams, Ferrari has huge technical problems. There is a possibility that the season that promised to be interesting by the middle will turn into a fight in the middle of the peloton and the first three places will be known - Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes.
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I've said it right after Barcelona, that was the moment they've changed the engines to something worse than what they had at the start of the year. Pretty shame, they've killed their chances, Leclerc's, and the chances of 2 other teams too. Not much to say about today's race. It could have been *very* interesting... until the Ferraris started failing one after the other. The only memorable part for me was the fixing of Tsunoda's rear wing / DRS flaps with duct tape. And then surviving until the end of the race. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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The battle for the world championship seemed to be in full swing after the first few races. Verstappen has taken a lot of points in the last races and Leclerc has already retired many times. The difference is now starting to become significant in the ranking. I think Ferrari with Le Clerc should now put the world title out of his mind. There appear to be a lot of technical problems in this car. Verstappen drove decent today and that was enough for the victory.
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The battle for the world championship seemed to be in full swing after the first few races. Verstappen has taken a lot of points in the last races and Leclerc has already retired many times. The difference is now starting to become significant in the ranking. I think Ferrari with Le Clerc should now put the world title out of his mind. There appear to be a lot of technical problems in this car. Verstappen drove decent today and that was enough for the victory.
There are still quite a few races to go, so we can't really say who will be world champion yet. And Verstappen started poorly at the start of the season, but is lucky that LeClerc has now retired a few times in a row. The big losses and disappointment of the season seems to be Mercedes after all. World champion for years, 2nd last year and now they don't even participate. It may have to do with the new regulations. I wonder why other teams are performing so well and Mercedes not. Then there must be something wrong with management.
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It annoys me how Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes associates whine about the health hazards of bouncing/dolphining cars and that the regulations need to be changed because of this to keep the drivers healthy. Only a couple of teams have problems, the rest were able to make a good car and settings - why is it necessary to change the regulations because of a few losers? Let Mercedes increase the clearance to lose speed and to preserve the health of the riders.
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The battle for the world championship seemed to be in full swing after the first few races. Verstappen has taken a lot of points in the last races and Leclerc has already retired many times. The difference is now starting to become significant in the ranking. I think Ferrari with Le Clerc should now put the world title out of his mind. There appear to be a lot of technical problems in this car. Verstappen drove decent today and that was enough for the victory.
I guess that is too much early to see what will be the next champions of this season. It is true that Ferrari has retired in some races, but there are also many race yet to do, and if Ferrari solves their issues, I guess that we will see a nice show between Leclerc and Verstappen. Nevery Say never, hope that Ferrari will win the title ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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It annoys me how Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes associates whine about the health hazards of bouncing/dolphining cars and that the regulations need to be changed because of this to keep the drivers healthy. Only a couple of teams have problems, the rest were able to make a good car and settings - why is it necessary to change the regulations because of a few losers? Let Mercedes increase the clearance to lose speed and to preserve the health of the riders.
Actually, it's not just Mercedes and Hamilton. Sainz, Gasly, Ricciardo also complained about bouncing. And on that ling straight it looked really painful. Though, I'm not sure that changes in regulation is needed. As Norris said, teams can adjust height and reduce bouncing, but they will have to sacrisfy performance in this way.
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Actually, it's not just Mercedes and Hamilton. Sainz, Gasly, Ricciardo also complained about bouncing. And on that ling straight it looked really painful. Though, I'm not sure that changes in regulation is needed. As Norris said, teams can adjust height and reduce bouncing, but they will have to sacrisfy performance in this way.
I have a feeling that while indeed some of the cars do bounce badly, all this new drama about the health hazard may be triggered in order to: * get some more attention on Hamilton, Mercedes and their sponsors * if it succeeds, by chance, and a regulation is imposed, then they hope that all the cars may have to get a "safety margin" so the car is not bouncing and then maybe the Mercs will be on top again I find pretty much laughable (in a pretty sad way) that when Hamilton has a problem, people should make regulations for him to be fine, but when regulations are to be made, he may not comply (see the piercing safety regulation and drama).
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I have a feeling that while indeed some of the cars do bounce badly, all this new drama about the health hazard may be triggered in order to: * get some more attention on Hamilton, Mercedes and their sponsors * if it succeeds, by chance, and a regulation is imposed, then they hope that all the cars may have to get a "safety margin" so the car is not bouncing and then maybe the Mercs will be on top again
I find pretty much laughable (in a pretty sad way) that when Hamilton has a problem, people should make regulations for him to be fine, but when regulations are to be made, he may not comply (see the piercing safety regulation and drama).
It is obvious that the constructors of Mercedes made a mistake (somewhere in the design) and they cannot raise the clearance, because then their backlog will be catastrophic. So they raise this noise so that the federation will force all the teams to do what is beneficial to Mercedes. A working but dastardly strategy. By the way, I don't know how it will help Hamilton personally because he rides worse than a teammate.
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June 14, 2022, 03:27:50 PM |
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It annoys me how Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes associates whine about the health hazards of bouncing/dolphining cars and that the regulations need to be changed because of this to keep the drivers healthy. Only a couple of teams have problems, the rest were able to make a good car and settings - why is it necessary to change the regulations because of a few losers? Let Mercedes increase the clearance to lose speed and to preserve the health of the riders.
Actually, it's not just Mercedes and Hamilton. Sainz, Gasly, Ricciardo also complained about bouncing. And on that ling straight it looked really painful. Though, I'm not sure that changes in regulation is needed. As Norris said, teams can adjust height and reduce bouncing, but they will have to sacrisfy performance in this way. The head of Red Bull said in plain text that Mercedes, losing the competition, is trying to change the rules. And I completely agree with him - there is a technical solution to get rid of dolphining, so this is not a problem of regulations, but a problem of Mercedes. But maybe Mercedes' wishes will be satisfied - no one is interested in Red Bull being the undisputed champion long before the end of the season. How disgusting all this is (although it is reasonable from a business point of view) ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Charles is always the favorite when he isn't racing, which should tell us something. I am not the best F1 fan out there, there are people who literally could understand the engine specifics of the cars, so I am not going to even try to attempt to make some predictions or reasoning. But, if one person wins the practice and gets the best result, then he qualifies at pole position almost all the time, then it makes me wonder what makes him so much in trouble for the current situation during the races. I would say, wager on Charles for qualifying, and then Max for the race, this happened way too many times to say that it wouldn't happen again.
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It annoys me how Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes associates whine about the health hazards of bouncing/dolphining cars and that the regulations need to be changed because of this to keep the drivers healthy. Only a couple of teams have problems, the rest were able to make a good car and settings - why is it necessary to change the regulations because of a few losers? Let Mercedes increase the clearance to lose speed and to preserve the health of the riders.
Actually, it's not just Mercedes and Hamilton. Sainz, Gasly, Ricciardo also complained about bouncing. And on that ling straight it looked really painful. Though, I'm not sure that changes in regulation is needed. As Norris said, teams can adjust height and reduce bouncing, but they will have to sacrisfy performance in this way. The head of Red Bull said in plain text that Mercedes, losing the competition, is trying to change the rules. And I completely agree with him - there is a technical solution to get rid of dolphining, so this is not a problem of regulations, but a problem of Mercedes. But maybe Mercedes' wishes will be satisfied - no one is interested in Red Bull being the undisputed champion long before the end of the season. How disgusting all this is (although it is reasonable from a business point of view) ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I think that, of course, there is also a political component, when the losing team demands to change the regulations and rules in order to have an advantage in the next stages of the competition. But, I must say that dolphining really affects the health of the riders. By the way, many F1 teams are working hard to change the aerodynamics of the bottom of the car. They come up with ribs and holes and something else. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But the problem is still worth solving both technically and, possibly, adjusting the rules.
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June 15, 2022, 04:45:01 PM |
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The head of Red Bull said in plain text that Mercedes, losing the competition, is trying to change the rules. And I completely agree with him - there is a technical solution to get rid of dolphining, so this is not a problem of regulations, but a problem of Mercedes. But maybe Mercedes' wishes will be satisfied - no one is interested in Red Bull being the undisputed champion long before the end of the season. How disgusting all this is (although it is reasonable from a business point of view) ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I think that, of course, there is also a political component, when the losing team demands to change the regulations and rules in order to have an advantage in the next stages of the competition. But, I must say that dolphining really affects the health of the riders. By the way, many F1 teams are working hard to change the aerodynamics of the bottom of the car. They come up with ribs and holes and something else. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But the problem is still worth solving both technically and, possibly, adjusting the rules. If your car dolphining and the health of the pilots is deteriorating, then you must increase the gap between the bottom of the car and the road. Eeeeeezy solution isnt it? But you shouldn't force all teams to increase the gap. I haven't heard Red Bull complain about dolphining. It would be great if the federation fined Mercedes for causing harm to the health of the pilots and forced them to increase the clearance, but would not touch other teams ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It would be logical and fair.
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June 16, 2022, 09:40:54 AM |
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I think the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve track is better suited for Ferrari and Red bull and their cars. Mercedes still has issues with theirs and all this talk of porpoising which has been happen since the race in Spain. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-explains-difference-between-porpoising-and-bouncing/10322630Up to the point the teams are arguing about not having the FIA interfere with the decisions made about this issue but individual teams and their safety grounds. "Horner, whose Red Bull team have been less affected by porpoising than many of their rivals, suspects some constructors are encouraging their drivers to complain vociferously about the physical effects in order to exert pressure on the FIA to open up a workaround in the rules on safety grounds." source: https://www.planetf1.com/news/martin-brundle-mercedes-porpoising
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June 16, 2022, 06:07:11 PM |
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In think the problem is real can affect less or more depends the team. For me the change if they made one need to be in the next season for no compromise the cars of now.
I cant belive how Red Bull fans can say anything against the FIA after the gift they do to them for Max to being the champion in the last season.
And i said this and i dont like Hamilton.
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June 16, 2022, 10:03:05 PM |
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How bad its Ferrari doing? take a look on this.
Red Bull - Ferrari gap in constructor championship: 80 points.
Ferrari - Mercedes gap in constructor championship : 38 points.
So Mercedes its more close to Ferrari than Ferrari close to Red Bull. And this with a really bad Mercedes, imagine if Mercedes have a good car to fight. Good bye to Ferrari chance to win constructor if that pass.
They are doing badly, but still a big improvement since last year. These cars are new they need to study them more to get good reliability. Without the mechanical fails, Ferrari is the car to be beaten.
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June 16, 2022, 10:14:53 PM |
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How bad its Ferrari doing? take a look on this.
Red Bull - Ferrari gap in constructor championship: 80 points.
Ferrari - Mercedes gap in constructor championship : 38 points.
So Mercedes its more close to Ferrari than Ferrari close to Red Bull. And this with a really bad Mercedes, imagine if Mercedes have a good car to fight. Good bye to Ferrari chance to win constructor if that pass.
They are doing badly, but still a big improvement since last year. These cars are new they need to study them more to get good reliability. Without the mechanical fails, Ferrari is the car to be beaten. It is an indisputable fact that Ferrari are very good compared to the past years. Binotto said this in a statement he made on BBC recently: "We set our objectives to be back competitive in 2022. So our objective is to be competitive, not to win the championship, and it would be completely wrong to turn that into: 'Let's try to win the championship because we are so competitive.'' I also think that Tifosi are giving a good signal to the future seasons even if Ferrari don't become the champions this year.
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