Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Yaunfitda]

Why no one discussing (or havent made a topic) about Deontay Wilder vs Robert Helenius fight ? Only 3 days left. Is it because Tyson Fury has destroyed Wilder reputation after beating him twice, and people have completely forgot about this knockout artist ? There were so many knockout compilations on YouTube, and now, in two years, he is forgotten. Helenius is not a biggest boxing superstar, but 31-3 record should be taken into consideration. He is not a trashy punching bag?

Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

Hw Boxing is getting crazy in the last years or so, Joshua lost, we forget about Wilder's power and then we have Usyk.

But I think Wilder will like to redeem himself in the Helenius and he will look for a knockout victory and then start to call everyone again and get the attention. We have to see though if the meltdown is over after his 2 losses to Fury and he is now OK and be big in the discussion again in the HW division.

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[Kemarit]

And for those who have been wanting a Davis vs Garcia fight, it seems the two have been teasing around their fans with cryptic message in their social media account.

But according to Garcia's manager, Oscar Dela Hoya

"It's being worked on. That's it. It's a big fight. It's a huge fight. Fights like this take forever," De La Hoya told BoxingScene.com and other reporters. "Do I feel it's going to get made? Yes - and I'm excited. But this is a huge fight with a lot of details."

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-on-ryan-garcia-vs-gervonta-davis-fights-like-this-take-forever--169652

So let's see how farther this negotiations and back and forth talks and hopefully we can see this fight one day.

I wouldn't discount the fact that this fight can be made, regardless what will be the weight will be, 140 or 145 lbs. But so far it is all Oscar who is going to the public and tell what his feeling is, as compare to Floyd which chooses to be quiet. So we don't really know what the real score from behind.

And I'm hinting that this could be another like Crawford vs Spence, to much noise. But when it comes to fighting, it's not even close of making the fight.

[Boristhecat]

Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.

[Japinat]

Because his chances are not the same anymore just like his power, speed and defense maneuvers. He cannot hide that fact that he is already old even if he's still fight in exhibitions, he will have the ring rust effect if he will choose to deal with the likes of Pacquiao nowadays, a May-Pac fight is profitable but knowing Mayweather, he doesn't want to get embarrassed from being defeated.

He doesn't really taste defeated ever since so what do you think he would feel if he gets defeated by Manny Pacquaio, or any boxer there is or should I say a Youtuber or an MMA fighter defeating Mayweather that level of embarrassment he would feel, because he hasn't experienced it at all, so experiencing it now could be a different effect for him, I'd say I'd really like to see that he gets embarrassed by a non-boxer inside the ring and the sports that he loves so much, I really want to see his reaction, and what would he feel,

That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.

[Kasabus]

I hope he quick recovery back and goes to the exhibition fight as the planing. I heard Tyson Fury was also interested to meet him but the problem is the age between them is too far. if happens, seems like an unfair fight, and Mike possibly lost in 1st round. Many observers say he doesn't need to continue fighting and is better to continue to explore as a Hollywood actor.

It's better that he'll just focus on regaining his health rather than thinking of that exhibition match that he can just pass on to other interesting fights.
He just can pass on it and don't have to think of it anymore because that will affect his mental health and could also affect his recovery period. No need to think of anything else aside from healing at the moment. He's now in his golden age and even though he might say that he's still good and can have a fight after recovering, it's better to have himself on set and do something else.

Iron Mike needs to take care of his health and focus on how he can recover from this health issue,
no need to think about any possible exhibitions fight it won't help.

If he can gain back his health condition, instead of any exhibition fight, it's better to take chances with
acting career if there's any potential offers.

For now, I'm looking to hear great news about his fast recoveries and a normal healthy lifestyle. More on
personal help and not to overthink of his comeback inside the ring.

Yes, seriously that is what he needs for now so that he will recover in no time. Thinking of his comeback in the ring makes everything worse and he cannot do anything about it because his body needs some more rests more than any fight as well as the money he could get because he is not young anymore. Safety and health should be his utmost priority if he wants to enjoy more time here in this world.

[YuginKadoya]

That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.

Well, Floyd Mayweather is pretty much clever that he is choosing the fight he thinks he can win, and I think he is pretty much accurate in choosing every fight he was on the advantage, and surely luck is still on his side, that is why he is evading every well-known boxer in the exhibition match because he just wants to bully his opponent and just enjoys it to his heart content,


My picks for the Haney vs. Kambosos 2

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Stake odds for this fight were 1.11 for Haney and 6.20 for Kambosos, in their 1st fight there is no doubt that Devin Haney was dominating the fight, and George Kambosos Jr. no was near him, which is why even though the fight was on a decision it was a Unanimous Decision for Haney, but who know Kambosos might pull an upset this once, but I surely doubt that is why my pick is Devin Haney,

And I thought I was seeing things I thought that Maloney will be having to fight two guys one at a time, but when I have seen the names the Maloney brothers will fighting in one event,

[btc_angela]

Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.

It's because Wilder just rely on his God given talent, that is one punch KO, but if it fails then there is no back up. He is not a technical boxer, he can't dance inside the ring, and that is his downfall.

And when he faces a technical fighter in Fury, he was really exposed. He got lucky in the first fight because he was able to knock down Fury, but Tyson get up from the best shot of Wilder and beat his ass on the second. So he is good but not on the elite level, and most Heavyweight boxers that is considered great are somewhat technical, and has both power and boxing IQ.

[Baofeng]

Why no one discussing (or havent made a topic) about Deontay Wilder vs Robert Helenius fight ? Only 3 days left. Is it because Tyson Fury has destroyed Wilder reputation after beating him twice, and people have completely forgot about this knockout artist ? There were so many knockout compilations on YouTube, and now, in two years, he is forgotten. Helenius is not a biggest boxing superstar, but 31-3 record should be taken into consideration. He is not a trashy punching bag?

Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

I  try to look for Wilder's public workout and so far this is the latest that I have seen him,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5RGlArdyY

Just a short clip though, but he is going to the usual trainer and from my point of view, looks good and tone the usual against Helenius.

So we will see how Wilder, he still believes that he is one of the best and wanting to fight Usyk next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKC8_tMz4hE

[Fredomago]

Because his chances are not the same anymore just like his power, speed and defense maneuvers. He cannot hide that fact that he is already old even if he's still fight in exhibitions, he will have the ring rust effect if he will choose to deal with the likes of Pacquiao nowadays, a May-Pac fight is profitable but knowing Mayweather, he doesn't want to get embarrassed from being defeated.

He doesn't really taste defeated ever since so what do you think he would feel if he gets defeated by Manny Pacquaio, or any boxer there is or should I say a Youtuber or an MMA fighter defeating Mayweather that level of embarrassment he would feel, because he hasn't experienced it at all, so experiencing it now could be a different effect for him, I'd say I'd really like to see that he gets embarrassed by a non-boxer inside the ring and the sports that he loves so much, I really want to see his reaction, and what would he feel,

That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.

He is good in picking the fight that he will be taking, for sure if ever that a huge noise will created to push him to face Pacman again he will continue to ignore it, knowing that at this point of his physical condition he can't matchup with Pacman's capabilities, until now, there are still people who are questioning his win, we can remove the fact that Pacman's supporters believes that Pacman win that fight, with those numbers of throw punches and converted, though there's no way to contest that judgement and it will remain the same since both fighters/legends are now retired.

Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.

It's because Wilder just rely on his God given talent, that is one punch KO, but if it fails then there is no back up. He is not a technical boxer, he can't dance inside the ring, and that is his downfall.

And when he faces a technical fighter in Fury, he was really exposed. He got lucky in the first fight because he was able to knock down Fury, but Tyson get up from the best shot of Wilder and beat his ass on the second. So he is good but not on the elite level, and most Heavyweight boxers that is considered great are somewhat technical, and has both power and boxing IQ.

Boxing IQ is very important, it's applicable to both technical and skilled fighter, A good example is Pacman and Mayweather. Pacman used skills while Mayweather use technical strategy. It's the fighter's ways of fighting and how they will execute their strategy when they are already inside the ring.

[lionheart78]

That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.

Well, Floyd Mayweather is pretty much clever that he is choosing the fight he thinks he can win, and I think he is pretty much accurate in choosing every fight he was on the advantage, and surely luck is still on his side, that is why he is evading every well-known boxer in the exhibition match because he just wants to bully his opponent and just enjoys it to his heart content,

Aside from picking a fight that he can win, he also pick a referee that let him do his defensive strategy and is very sensitive to brawl and close-contact fighting making those who wanted a brawl to nullify their intent.

My picks for the Haney vs. Kambosos 2

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Stake odds for this fight were 1.11 for Haney and 6.20 for Kambosos, in their 1st fight there is no doubt that Devin Haney was dominating the fight, and George Kambosos Jr. no was near him, which is why even though the fight was on a decision it was a Unanimous Decision for Haney, but who know Kambosos might pull an upset this once, but I surely doubt that is why my pick is Devin Haney,

Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.

And I thought I was seeing things I thought that Maloney will be having to fight two guys one at a time, but when I have seen the names the Maloney brothers will fighting in one event,

Probably an upload error, I bet the editor has his ass get nagged for that error lol.

[bittraffic]

Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.

This is if he wins. Few days left for this awaited fight. Given that he got the chance to come back without having to fight someone else. Kambosos' team must be very confident that he'd win.  Either by KO or decision, you'd still get a substantial win even if you just give it $10. Devin by KO is 3.40, this is the only option for a small timer to get a fair amount.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yeah, he's got already two matches line up and those are the very reasons why he has accepted those fights. Main reason for him is about the charity purposes and there's already a beneficiary for that.

But it's not already a secret that him and the others who are doing such fights have their share too. Take it the example of Floyd Mayweather, he's already retired in the pro boxing but not in the entire boxing as he's open into exhibition matches.

I guess these two living legends are going to live their lives fighting for the proposed exhibition matches on them.

Of course, both Mayweather and Pacquiao can pledge to donate all they want but they cannot deny that they are also taking a small fraction of what they earned for their personal use. Other than that, these two legends can still do and enjoy their passion safely nowadays without getting too much bruises while still garnering huge revenues from the fight they organized. A boxer will always be a boxer as they said, that is why even if they already retired professionally they are still fighting in a form of exhibition and can enjoy the leverage of being a legend.

It's normal.

They're all having that business mindset and the cut was a sure thing even if it's for the charity. It could be that some rich folks have already pledged for them while they'll give the whole profit of the match to the charity.

There are deals like that and these two legends will just now have to enjoy whatever they're doing and whatever they're up to. They deserve the things they have now.

If there is something that they experienced as boxers, it is that you can make a lot of money with fights, this is a very big business model and that it can be used so that all of them as boxers are protagonists, even if it is as exhibition fights, something that sometimes I don't find it exciting because an exhibition fight is something fixed, when you fight at a professional level it's something else, it's another level, and I think that both should not say goodbye to their lives as professionals, I think they still have a lot to prove, More than anything, I'm going to side with Pacquiao, Mayweather is a great athlete but he's not to my liking, for many reasons, but for now I think they should go as businessmen, as long as they'll never be outside the boxing environment.

That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.

Well, Floyd Mayweather is pretty much clever that he is choosing the fight he thinks he can win, and I think he is pretty much accurate in choosing every fight he was on the advantage, and surely luck is still on his side, that is why he is evading every well-known boxer in the exhibition match because he just wants to bully his opponent and just enjoys it to his heart content,

Aside from picking a fight that he can win, he also pick a referee that let him do his defensive strategy and is very sensitive to brawl and close-contact fighting making those who wanted a brawl to nullify their intent.

My picks for the Haney vs. Kambosos 2

Devin Haney VS George Kambosos Jr.

Stake odds for this fight were 1.11 for Haney and 6.20 for Kambosos, in their 1st fight there is no doubt that Devin Haney was dominating the fight, and George Kambosos Jr. no was near him, which is why even though the fight was on a decision it was a Unanimous Decision for Haney, but who know Kambosos might pull an upset this once, but I surely doubt that is why my pick is Devin Haney,

Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.

And I thought I was seeing things I thought that Maloney will be having to fight two guys one at a time, but when I have seen the names the Maloney brothers will fighting in one event,

Probably an upload error, I bet the editor has his ass get nagged for that error lol.

Well, I think that Kambosos wants to change everything they have about him and Haney, for me that Kambosos is already giving himself a lot of hard training to be able to achieve everything, I know that intelligence has a lot to do with boxing, in fact we have clear examples of intelligent boxers who have achieved good results thanks to the use of intelligence more than their own body, such as Mayweather, who although I do not like his style, I recognize that he applies intelligence and it is the only thing I admire him, without However, I think that Kambosos has also matured a lot and that makes him a much more professional boxer.

This is if he wins. Few days left for this awaited fight. Given that he got the chance to come back without having to fight someone else. Kambosos' team must be very confident that he'd win.  Either by KO or decision, you'd still get a substantial win even if you just give it $10. Devin by KO is 3.40, this is the only option for a small timer to get a fair amount.

Yes, I have also noticed that, the team has a lot of confidence in him, well, come on, he is practically an iconic boxer and it may make a difference if with all the effort and dedication he can achieve results, and I think that nothing is impossible, and in boxing anything can happen, I have seen how in some fights, the high rollers who are considered whales lose a lot of money, just because the results that favor the statistics do not occur and this is considered a big hit, I know that the bets are going away a lot towards the rival and not towards Kambosos, but all this can be turned around and give the best surprises, this is what I like about boxing.


Kambosos Jr wants to right the wrongs of the first fight with Haney

George Kambosos says distractions before his first fight against Devin Haney led him astray, but his underdog status for the rematch with the American has him in recognisable territory.

Haney left Australia undisputed champion after their 12-round June fight at Marvel Stadium- the first man to unify the lightweight division in the four-belt era.

This time the pair will settle in the smaller Rod Laver Arena which Kambosos says is right up his alley and similar to the room at Madison Square Garden where he defeated Teofimo Lopez.

Source: https://neoskosmos.com/en/2022/10/14/sport/kambosos-jr-wants-to-right-the-wrongs-of-the-first-fight-with-haney/

[YuginKadoya]

I  try to look for Wilder's public workout and so far this is the latest that I have seen him,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5RGlArdyY

Just a short clip though, but he is going to the usual trainer and from my point of view, looks good and tone the usual against Helenius.

So we will see how Wilder, he still believes that he is one of the best and wanting to fight Usyk next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKC8_tMz4hE

That is a bad plan in my opinion he might be underestimating his opponent so much because if you look at it on paper Wilder got all the advantages needed and Robert Helenius doesn't really fight with a well-known boxer or have a great career it is really just for the money and I think Robert Helenius is not that bad but also not that great for his reputation, for me Robert Helenius is not enough to return those reputations that were taken away by Tyson Fury, and if this should get his confidence back it is a false thing to do,

Aside from picking a fight that he can win, he also pick a referee that let him do his defensive strategy and is very sensitive to brawl and close-contact fighting making those who wanted a brawl to nullify their intent.

What I really don't know about that but knowing Mayweather and having so much money he can surely do that, if this is real then this is really unfair for most of his opponents that the only one that can win is non-other than him,

Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.

Yes, higher risk means large payments, maybe Kambosos Jr. will be having some plan before this fight, and Devin Haney is pretty much the one that might be shocked by what Kambosos might do, and that 1st fight was the 1st loss for Kambosos, so this is really going to be sweet revenge for George Kambosos Jr. if he pulls this up, but I am still going for Devin Haney,

Probably an upload error, I bet the editor has his ass get nagged for that error lol.

Well, I think it is not really an error there are really two Maloney boxers and they are really fighting in the same event, and that was Andrew Moloney and Jason Moloney It was just the way I look at it at 1st glance that I thought my eye was fooling around because they got the same pictures, but seeing their names I thought they were brothers alright and upon reviewing their records they are actually twins, and they also have the same wining and losing records,

[Kelvinid]

Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.

This is if he wins. Few days left for this awaited fight. Given that he got the chance to come back without having to fight someone else. Kambosos' team must be very confident that he'd win.  Either by KO or decision, you'd still get a substantial win even if you just give it $10. Devin by KO is 3.40, this is the only option for a small timer to get a fair amount.

I have no doubt that Kambosos would really want to even this rivalry, however, based on the stats, I still think Kambosos will be heavily dominated again and I would not be surprised with that, his odds is only enticing if you believe he has a decent chance of winning.

[Oasisman]

That is true and I admire him for that because up to this day, he's still clever enough to know what should he do that is right and what is not, considering the hundreds of millions they can acquire if they decide to have a second dance in the ring. Bottomline is he cannot risk the chances of getting defeated af this point knowing how competitive Pacman is.

Well, Floyd Mayweather is pretty much clever that he is choosing the fight he thinks he can win, and I think he is pretty much accurate in choosing every fight he was on the advantage, and surely luck is still on his side, that is why he is evading every well-known boxer in the exhibition match because he just wants to bully his opponent and just enjoys it to his heart content,

Pretty clever inside and outside the ring. I mean he's got talent but less entertaining compared to most top boxers who can trade blows all throughout the fight. He carefully built his career and remain undefeated so he can demand whatever he want because he has the perfect record.

Anyway, has of you heard of the exhibition fight between Hatton and Barrera? I know this would not get enough attention as these both fighters are way way out of shape lol. I'm not sure what Hatton wants to happen, but I think he's trying to earn here once more. But, I'm a bit worried of his health as he was inactive for than 9 yrs.

[mirakal]

I hope he quick recovery back and goes to the exhibition fight as the planing. I heard Tyson Fury was also interested to meet him but the problem is the age between them is too far. if happens, seems like an unfair fight, and Mike possibly lost in 1st round. Many observers say he doesn't need to continue fighting and is better to continue to explore as a Hollywood actor.

It's better that he'll just focus on regaining his health rather than thinking of that exhibition match that he can just pass on to other interesting fights.
He just can pass on it and don't have to think of it anymore because that will affect his mental health and could also affect his recovery period. No need to think of anything else aside from healing at the moment. He's now in his golden age and even though he might say that he's still good and can have a fight after recovering, it's better to have himself on set and do something else.

I think Mike Tyson knows that, he is really getting old and so with the recent both on the hospital, for sure he will have to refocus first on his health and recover in the next couple of months instead of thinking about a potential exhibition fights.

So we will see and just like the rest of you guys, we love to see Mike Tyson in the ring again, but we will have to wait.

Well, I'm good that he's made his legacy and left that on the ring. It's better to see him healthy and enjoy his retirement forever and it's okay for me to not see him anymore in the ring.
Well, it's a different case if he's just standing there and paying respect to the sport and receiving an award or such but not in fighting form anymore.

Same here, Mike Tyson already established his name in the industry and he is also a legendary that can't be forgotten by any boxing fans, even ordinary people knows him. He don't need to prove it again to anyone especially this time that his age is not appropriate to fight anymore even if it's just an exhibition fight.

[Boristhecat]

Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.

It's because Wilder just rely on his God given talent, that is one punch KO, but if it fails then there is no back up. He is not a technical boxer, he can't dance inside the ring, and that is his downfall.

And when he faces a technical fighter in Fury, he was really exposed. He got lucky in the first fight because he was able to knock down Fury, but Tyson get up from the best shot of Wilder and beat his ass on the second. So he is good but not on the elite level, and most Heavyweight boxers that is considered great are somewhat technical, and has both power and boxing IQ.

Wilder switched to boxing late compared to other professional athletes so his technical problems have obvious reasons (if I'm not mistaken, he chose boxing after basketball), but it must be admitted that he has grown professionally throughout his career and although such a large gap in athletic youth cannot be completely corrected, Wilder has achieved a lot.
By the way, if in a fight with Fury he would have been a little more successful (for example, Fury could have remained lying down after knockouts), then now we would evaluate Wilder in a completely different way.

[btc_angela]

Kambosos really looks bad on his first fight against Haney, but I think his camp is somehow confident that Kambosos will do differently this time.  Also, the odds for Kambosos is very enticing, I might bet for Kambosos just to go after the better winnings with a higher risk.  Aside from that, I really wanted to see Kambosos winning this time.

This is if he wins. Few days left for this awaited fight. Given that he got the chance to come back without having to fight someone else. Kambosos' team must be very confident that he'd win.  Either by KO or decision, you'd still get a substantial win even if you just give it $10. Devin by KO is 3.40, this is the only option for a small timer to get a fair amount.

I have no doubt that Kambosos would really want to even this rivalry, however, based on the stats, I still think Kambosos will be heavily dominated again and I would not be surprised with that, his odds is only enticing if you believe he has a decent chance of winning.

I also look at how many jabs Haney landed on Kambosos in the first fight and it's a lot. So that is a problem that George and his team have to resolved. Initially I never thought that Haney's length will not be a problem for Kambosos, but it is one of Haney's best weapon in the fight. If George can negate than by going inside and roughing Haney with some dirty tricks just to throw him off balance, I think he has a chance, but we don't know. Haney is really a good boxing and has good boxing IQ that is hard to beat.

[Yaunfitda]

Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.

It's because Wilder just rely on his God given talent, that is one punch KO, but if it fails then there is no back up. He is not a technical boxer, he can't dance inside the ring, and that is his downfall.

And when he faces a technical fighter in Fury, he was really exposed. He got lucky in the first fight because he was able to knock down Fury, but Tyson get up from the best shot of Wilder and beat his ass on the second. So he is good but not on the elite level, and most Heavyweight boxers that is considered great are somewhat technical, and has both power and boxing IQ.

Wilder switched to boxing late compared to other professional athletes so his technical problems have obvious reasons (if I'm not mistaken, he chose boxing after basketball), but it must be admitted that he has grown professionally throughout his career and although such a large gap in athletic youth cannot be completely corrected, Wilder has achieved a lot.
By the way, if in a fight with Fury he would have been a little more successful (for example, Fury could have remained lying down after knockouts), then now we would evaluate Wilder in a completely different way.

But Fury get up from that big punch and finished the fight although the decision is somewhat sketchy. And it doesn't matter if he switched to boxing late, I mean he keep on winning fights at Barclays and then become a champion and there are talks about him and AJ fighting for the undisputed until Fury derail all the plans. So he is fighting Helenius, which I think he can defeated. But it might be a different fight if it will be Usyk or even Andy Ruiz Jr.

[Baofeng]

And for the Helenius fight, Wilder came in a bit lighter as compare to his second fight with Fury,  214½ lbs, 23½ lbs lighter than what he weighed when Fury knock him. But this is what 'naturally' he weight during his career in the heavyweight.

And so it seems that we will be back to his usual weight and expect he will move lightly but still possesses that heavy handed hand to score a knock out win against Helenius.