Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Kemarit]

!!! Breaking news !!!

Fury Vs Usyk won't happen due to Tyson's injury (big cut to the right eye).
He got caught by an accidental elbow during the sparring, he was wearing a head-guard, but that didn't help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68187055

Michael Bisping's commentary, including the footage of unfortunate sparring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBay8997Ifs&t

The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).

Yes and it's obviously been postponed already, ticket are going to be refunded,

“Riyadh Season announced today that the much-anticipated boxing match between WBC Heavyweight Champion Tyson Fury and unified Champion Oleksandr Usyk, named "Ring of Fire", has been postponed,” Alalshikh revealed in a press statement. “The decision comes after Fury suffered an unfortunate cut above his right eye during a training session in Riyadh.

“Originally scheduled for February 17 as part of Riyadh Season activities, the fight will be rescheduled at a later date and tickets will be refunded to the public.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159

Filip might be the replacement boxer, but I don't think it will this February 17. Everything is still based on what HE Alalshikh as they have the right for this big fight and maybe they are not that familiar with Filip and they just want to hold big fights in Saudi, so we will have to wait.

[Getmon]

The battle for the undisputed heavyweight championship between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk is rescheduled for May 18 in Saudi Arabia. Albeit disappointing, we can just be happy the match did not end in cancellation and was simply postponed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68195602

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

[Ziskinberg]

The battle for the undisputed heavyweight championship between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk is rescheduled for May 18 in Saudi Arabia. Albeit disappointing, we can just be happy the match did not end in cancellation and was simply postponed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68195602

Oh yeah, better than getting cancelled at all. Now, Fury could have enough time to train as his fight with Francis is still fresh, at least this fight will happen before the 2nd half of the year, that's already a good news. Sure we won't be bored as there's still a lot that is line up, we will be able to see Parker vs Zhang, this is a title fight too.

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

Davis making excuses? this isn't new, he is the boy of Mayweather I belieive, so like his boss, he's acting the same. Inoue just trying to keep his undefeated record, maybe if he'll fight Inoue, it might end his win streak. 

[inthelongrun]

So this is the third time Big Belly disrupted Usyk's training camp. I am not really surprised by the cancellation. First, after his poor performance over Ngannou, he needs to fully heal and re-energize his body. He only wants to exploit his opponents like threatening to sue Usyk on that December 23rd date which meant to shorten the training camp of Usyk. And he does not want to get exploited even in the slightest. Second, Fury doesn't like to make full training camps during Christmas and New Years.

But there are also rumors in the UK that Fury is not doing well. He was beaten by a cruiserweight in 5 rounds of sparring. And that so-called leaked but obviously, intentionally spread video of Fury getting head by an elbow in sparring, I am not buying it. Why aren't they spreading to the public a video with a clear resolution? That way we can see the cut when Fury went near to the camera. I felt like the cut was already there and they just made a video to convince the public how he was cut. Fury is a hundred-million-dollar fighter but his team made a video from a very poor resolution camera or phone?

[YuginKadoya]

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His next match is with Isaac Cruz who is climbing in weight class, and it should not shock the fans because Rolly Romero is careful with his decisions to keep his championship belt.

Yup! very careful in picking his opponent like a true champ! Well, I really don't like Rolly Romero but what I really want to see is for him to really fight Ryan Garcia Fans like you will undoubtedly be eager to see how this match unfolds and whether Romero's careful approach will contribute to his continued success in the ring, Rolly Romero's upcoming match with Isaac Cruz adds an interesting dynamic, especially with Cruz climbing in weight class.

Munguia was able to get the TKO win against a fighter who went the distance with Canelo. If Canelo doesn't fight Benavidez, then Munguia seems like the next best option. Munguia is never in a boring fight so I am sure against Canelo it will be a slugfest. Munguia's porous defense is his biggest weakness and would probably be his downfall against Canelo. It is still a good matchup on paper with potential to be fight of the year.

While Munguia's exciting fights are a draw for fans, his porous defense could pose a significant challenge against the defensive prowess of Canelo. The matchup on paper holds the promise of a high-stakes, action-packed encounter with the potential to be a contender for Fight of the Year, given Munguia's entertaining style in the ring. His recent TKO win against a fighter who went the distance with Canelo adds an intriguing element to the equation, The prospect of a matchup between Munguia and Canelo indeed carries the excitement of a potential slugfest,

As the boxing community speculates on potential matchups, the dynamics between Munguia and Canelo present an enticing narrative, and fans eagerly await the possibility of witnessing these two formidable fighters square off in the ring.

[Kemarit]

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

[mirakal]

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

Maybe he is satisfied with fighting in the USA. Most of the biggest fighter happened in the US, this Saudi fight is quite new and probably the trend for big fights happening there but thee's always a place in the US to make some big money. Davis could have say no, but being dispectful although in an indirect way, it's not a good way to deal with Alalshikh since we never know what could come in the future.

Davis probably just trying to be himself, bad at marketing but made a decent PPV on his fight with Ryan Garcia, that might be his biggest paycheck  in his career if he doesn't behave well. But that's his life, so let him handle that.

[Baofeng]

So this is the third time Big Belly disrupted Usyk's training camp. I am not really surprised by the cancellation. First, after his poor performance over Ngannou, he needs to fully heal and re-energize his body. He only wants to exploit his opponents like threatening to sue Usyk on that December 23rd date which meant to shorten the training camp of Usyk. And he does not want to get exploited even in the slightest. Second, Fury doesn't like to make full training camps during Christmas and New Years.

Not only that, but he has a lot of antics and tantrums before the official fight was set. But Usyk can't be bothered though, stoned face cold killer hehehe. But, this cancelation or postponement was due to Fury so there are lot of conspiracies around and to think that the fight is closer before suddenly he got his cut on his eye and it will take only 11 stiches? If it really that deep, I think he should take more on that.

But the Saudis have given him final ultimatum, fight on May or not, he is going to forfeit $10 million dollars.

So that is a big penalty and hopefully Big Belly can't make any more excuses and pushes for the unification fight in Saudi and make everyone happy in that Kingdom.

[PokerBetting]

!!! Breaking news !!!

Fury Vs Usyk won't happen due to Tyson's injury (big cut to the right eye).
He got caught by an accidental elbow during the sparring, he was wearing a head-guard, but that didn't help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68187055

Michael Bisping's commentary, including the footage of unfortunate sparring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBay8997Ifs&t

The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).

whether the match is canceled or continues. or there will be a new schedule schedule for the match. if there is a reschedule when the latest match schedule is.
Because this will be the biggest boxing match in 2024.

[Distinctin]

So this is the third time Big Belly disrupted Usyk's training camp. I am not really surprised by the cancellation. First, after his poor performance over Ngannou, he needs to fully heal and re-energize his body. He only wants to exploit his opponents like threatening to sue Usyk on that December 23rd date which meant to shorten the training camp of Usyk. And he does not want to get exploited even in the slightest. Second, Fury doesn't like to make full training camps during Christmas and New Years.

Not only that, but he has a lot of antics and tantrums before the official fight was set. But Usyk can't be bothered though, stoned face cold killer hehehe. But, this cancelation or postponement was due to Fury so there are lot of conspiracies around and to think that the fight is closer before suddenly he got his cut on his eye and it will take only 11 stiches? If it really that deep, I think he should take more on that.

But the Saudis have given him final ultimatum, fight on May or not, he is going to forfeit $10 million dollars.

So that is a big penalty and hopefully Big Belly can't make any more excuses and pushes for the unification fight in Saudi and make everyone happy in that Kingdom.

It's a big money to pass up. But is it only $10 million? Was it his purse? Because AFAIK, during his fight with Ngannou, he made bigger than $10 million as Ngannou was guaranteed to receive $10 million. So I was a big confuse since it's a championship fight, an undisputed fight, so this should pay him bigger than just an ordinary fight.

This postponement is fine, I think it happen from time to time in other match up, so it's quite normal now, but cancellation is bad.

Promoters trying to make this big fight happen, Fury can't mess this one as whether he likes it or not, promoters still have a big factor on the success of a fight, without a good promoter the boxer will not become popular, just like Zhang who will be on a title fight but people aren't talking his fight. 

[Hirose UK]

The battle for the undisputed heavyweight championship between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk is rescheduled for May 18 in Saudi Arabia. Albeit disappointing, we can just be happy the match did not end in cancellation and was simply postponed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68195602

Oh yeah, better than getting cancelled at all. Now, Fury could have enough time to train as his fight with Francis is still fresh, at least this fight will happen before the 2nd half of the year, that's already a good news. Sure we won't be bored as there's still a lot that is line up, we will be able to see Parker vs Zhang, this is a title fight too.

You are right, this is not very disappointing news because the fight for the undisputed heavyweight title between Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk has become the schedule that everyone has been waiting for.
If there is cancellation or longer postponement then this will obviously be very disappointing and of course there will be unfavorable sentiment among boxing fans.
We just want to see how two heavyweight monsters put all their titles on the line to prove who is truly the strongest champion.

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

Davis making excuses? this isn't new, he is the boy of Mayweather I belieive, so like his boss, he's acting the same. Inoue just trying to keep his undefeated record, maybe if he'll fight Inoue, it might end his win streak. 

Hahaha, this is ridiculous because Davis himself has stated that he will never be able to meet Inoue and he has also stated that he is surprised by the sentiments of people who want him to fight Inoue.
Obviously this is not about title or victory but about the weight of the two which is quite far apart, this is the main reason why Davis refuses to meet the KO monster Inoue.
After all, Inoue has also perfected the title he earned and now only time will tell whether he stays or will jump to a division above him by trying to become challenger for other champions in higher class.

[inthelongrun]

So this is the third time Big Belly disrupted Usyk's training camp. I am not really surprised by the cancellation. First, after his poor performance over Ngannou, he needs to fully heal and re-energize his body. He only wants to exploit his opponents like threatening to sue Usyk on that December 23rd date which meant to shorten the training camp of Usyk. And he does not want to get exploited even in the slightest. Second, Fury doesn't like to make full training camps during Christmas and New Years.

Not only that, but he has a lot of antics and tantrums before the official fight was set. But Usyk can't be bothered though, stoned face cold killer hehehe. But, this cancelation or postponement was due to Fury so there are lot of conspiracies around and to think that the fight is closer before suddenly he got his cut on his eye and it will take only 11 stiches? If it really that deep, I think he should take more on that.

But the Saudis have given him final ultimatum, fight on May or not, he is going to forfeit $10 million dollars.

So that is a big penalty and hopefully Big Belly can't make any more excuses and pushes for the unification fight in Saudi and make everyone happy in that Kingdom.

It's a big money to pass up. But is it only $10 million? Was it his purse? Because AFAIK, during his fight with Ngannou, he made bigger than $10 million as Ngannou was guaranteed to receive $10 million. So I was a big confuse since it's a championship fight, an undisputed fight, so this should pay him bigger than just an ordinary fight.

This postponement is fine, I think it happen from time to time in other match up, so it's quite normal now, but cancellation is bad.

Promoters trying to make this big fight happen, Fury can't mess this one as whether he likes it or not, promoters still have a big factor on the success of a fight, without a good promoter the boxer will not become popular, just like Zhang who will be on a title fight but people aren't talking his fight. 

All world-class fighters' sparring sessions are recorded to study and review their performances, habits, strengths, and weaknesses. So until I can see a much clearer resolution, I will continue to believe the cut was intentionally made earlier and the sparring session was only scripted to make an excuse.

Hopefully, the $10 million deduction is not part of the purse otherwise Fury can just duck again, retire again, and fight again. Maybe the $10 million penalty is payable even if the fight is canceled. But actually, even the $10 million penalty is just small compared to the possible Fury-Joshua showdown where both fighters can earn $50 to $100 million each. And it may not happen or the value becomes lower if Usyk humiliates Fury.

[yazher]

Obviously this is not about title or victory but about the weight of the two which is quite far apart, this is the main reason why Davis refuses to meet the KO monster Inoue.
After all, Inoue has also perfected the title he earned and now only time will tell whether he stays or will jump to a division above him by trying to become challenger for other champions in higher class.

They cannot force themselves to fight each other while there are lots of opportunities waiting for them and they could just simply make this fight happen after they successfully beat every challenger and run out of any available opponent that could fit their strength. Anyway, that would be best for them if they could just wait before making any arrangements for their fight because as we know, Inoue is slowly making a world record for himself and not letting this chance go to waste because this is not something others can have to demolish everyone who wants to challenge him and take their belts.

[btc_angela]

Obviously this is not about title or victory but about the weight of the two which is quite far apart, this is the main reason why Davis refuses to meet the KO monster Inoue.
After all, Inoue has also perfected the title he earned and now only time will tell whether he stays or will jump to a division above him by trying to become challenger for other champions in higher class.

They cannot force themselves to fight each other while there are lots of opportunities waiting for them and they could just simply make this fight happen after they successfully beat every challenger and run out of any available opponent that could fit their strength. Anyway, that would be best for them if they could just wait before making any arrangements for their fight because as we know, Inoue is slowly making a world record for himself and not letting this chance go to waste because this is not something others can have to demolish everyone who wants to challenge him and take their belts.

And I think both of them said the same in public, Davis can't go down in weight and he is the far bigger boxer. And for Inoue, he said that perhaps 126 lbs will be his next stop and he might have difficulty making the next weight at 130 lbs as he will be too small on that division.

With that, I don't see them facing in the boxing ring in the future. Tank Davis has more fighters that he should be facing, specially that they are dub the 4 kings, him, Garcia, Haney and Teo. Only him and Ryan has faced so far, and there are talks that him and Haney might be the next, but who knows. He has been protected in his whole career that maybe they will not let Davis face anyone that they think will be a big risk or if they doesn't have the advantage, or can't dictate the negotiations like what they did against Ryan Garcia.

[Minecache]

Obviously this is not about title or victory but about the weight of the two which is quite far apart, this is the main reason why Davis refuses to meet the KO monster Inoue.
After all, Inoue has also perfected the title he earned and now only time will tell whether he stays or will jump to a division above him by trying to become challenger for other champions in higher class.

They cannot force themselves to fight each other while there are lots of opportunities waiting for them and they could just simply make this fight happen after they successfully beat every challenger and run out of any available opponent that could fit their strength. Anyway, that would be best for them if they could just wait before making any arrangements for their fight because as we know, Inoue is slowly making a world record for himself and not letting this chance go to waste because this is not something others can have to demolish everyone who wants to challenge him and take their belts.

It is always going to be better for a fighter to wait and take the best opportunity that he has. What I am trying to say is that it is a big mistake for any fighter to rush into a fight. Inoue is definitely a great fighter, of course, he might be a little hated. Actually, he is quite a lot hated. But that does not mean he's not on the way to making a world record as you said.

Yes, I agree that they should wait before making any arrangements to fight each other. Because that will probably not be the best decision for them at this moment.

[pawel7777]

The new date for the Fury Vs Usyk fight has been announced. It's scheduled to happen on 18th May. So a little over 3 months from now, not as bad as many have expected.
But it's getting more interesting this time:

Meanwhile, fight organiser Turki Al-Sheikh revealed that both boxers will face a $10m penalty if they withdraw in May, and that Anthony Joshua has agreed to step in if such a scenario occurs.
However, Joshua will only be paired with Fury, according to Al-Sheikh, who said Usyk can choose his opponent if Fury withdraws again.

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/fury-usyk-rescheduled-new-date-anthony-joshua-b2490193.html

AJ is fighting Ngannou in March, if he defeats him easily, many would probably prefer to see Fury fighting AJ instead of Usyk. Maybe Ngannou should get an offer to be a replacement option for Fury if he pulls out again 

[YuginKadoya]

Here is an event that will surely give us great entertainment this fight is between Teofimo Lopez and Jamaine Ortiz and it is a fight for the WBO World Super Lightweight Title it will be a good fight to watch here is the full display of the event,

Lopez vs. Ortiz

Thursday 02.08.2024 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: Top Rank
Ownership: Top Rank, Inc.
Venue:  Michelob Ultra Arena
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada



MAIN EVENT
Teofimo Lopez VS Jamaine Ortiz

CO-MAIN EVENT
Keyshawn Davis VS Jose Pedraza

MAIN CARD
Abdullah Mason VS Benjamin Gurment

PRELIMINARY CARD
Javier Martinez VS Raul Salomon
Art Barrera Jr. VS Michael Portales
Alan Garcia VS Tomas Ornelas
George Acosta VS Rene Tellez Giron
Charlie Sheehy VS Abdel Sauceda
Antonio Zepeda VS Lemir Isom-Riley

All information was from TAPOLOGY: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/108571-lopez-vs-ortiz
Thread in Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478683.0

[terrific]

Obviously this is not about title or victory but about the weight of the two which is quite far apart, this is the main reason why Davis refuses to meet the KO monster Inoue.
After all, Inoue has also perfected the title he earned and now only time will tell whether he stays or will jump to a division above him by trying to become challenger for other champions in higher class.

IMO, he should stay where he is right now and wait for more challengers to come. But if he's bored there already and can't do that much then it's time for him to start challenging on a higher weight division. That's the way to go for him to get more championships and he's already proven himself to his current weight class. If he wants to prove more things then that's what he has to do as he's already unbeatable and proved as a monster there.

[Slow death]

The battle for the undisputed heavyweight championship between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk is rescheduled for May 18 in Saudi Arabia. Albeit disappointing, we can just be happy the match did not end in cancellation and was simply postponed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68195602

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

well, the justification that Fury gave for postponing the fight was a little funny to me in the sense that the guy said he was fighting different fighters and that in the fifth round he suffered a blow to the eye that caused serious injury to the point of medical intervention may be necessary. So I found it funny because even though it's training the guy works really hard, I hope he heals quickly. Now something I see in this bad situation, is that this will become very disadvantageous for Fury because with this wound, he will have to stop training to recover and the fight has been rescheduled for May 18th, so assuming that this entire month Fury is recovering from his health, so there will be many days without training, when he returns to training next month he will have to train to gain momentum and will need to be very careful

to not suffer another injury, because I read that Turki Alalshikh said that May 18th was the deadline and that if any fighter wanted to postpone the fight, then he would fine the fighter 10 million dollars, something quite exaggerated in my opinion. opinion. but it seemed to me to be something very serious that Turki Alalshikh is talking about, so both fighters must be very careful with their health from now on because they are forced to comply with the fight schedule on May 18th. This year we will have many very interesting fights such as Anthony Joshua's fights, Dmitry Bivol's fight, Artur Beterbiev's fight. Even if there are postponements, this year there are still a lot of good fights that will happen

[pawel7777]

The long-awaited Dmitry Bivol Vs Artur Beterbiev fight was announced two days ago and will happen on Saturday 1st June.
The place - you guessed it, Saudi Arabia. They'll be fighting for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will be on him.