Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Japinat]

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Paul vs. Diaz



DATE: Saturday 08.05.2023
TIME: 08:00 PM ET
PROMOTION: Most Valuable Promotions
VENUE: American Airlines Arena
LOCATION: Dallas, Texas, United States

So, it is indeed final then because I sincerely thought that this fight did not materialized because of some issues along the way or it is not that profitable to make as I'm not hearing any news or noise about this fight in the past few weeks. Now I'm thinking that the reason behind that might be because of the big events happened recently that is why I did not hear any updates regarding this event.

Going back to the fight, and just like what I have said in the previous discussions concerning this fight, my bet would still be on the side of Jake Paul. Not because I admire him or what but because of the reason that this is a boxing fight and not a UFC fight where Nate got the advantages. It'll be the same as the Jake vs Woodley fight, the boxer will still have the last say and full control of the fight.

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[BitcoinPanther]

Clearly, Crawford was the one who win that fight after the knockdown in the second round and from that, it's all obvious that he will gonna dominate him through the rounds. no wonder why they delay the fight till now because they know they only have a slight chance to win against Crawford. not it's clear that he is the strongest welterweight in this era

I agree.

Crawford was visibly the greater boxer on that match. Too many good thrown punches and KOs that has been made and all of it are clean. While Spence Jr. wants it toe to toe, it seems that he's too overwhelmed with his emotion and just want to get on him.

We all notice the good offense of Crawford but if we look closer, the good defense of Crawford enable him to launch good punches.  Aside from that the Crawford is way quicker in releasing devastating punches than Spence.  We can look at some confrontation where Spences throw an overhand punch while Crawford counter with an uppercut which connected first that made Spence to go down again in that fight.

I don't have any candidate for him unless Inoue will dominate every upper weight class until he reached him just like how Pacquiao does in his prime.

Many of us are counting for Inoue and if he's going to move to upper class for sure that he'll challenge each of them.

But it looks like Inoue isn't rushing things.  I read that he will stay on the 122 pounds and will fight other great boxer on that weight division is somehow he unified the belt after a fight with Tapales.  So probably Inoue will stay for a year or two before aiming for higher weight division.

[danherbias07]

Usually though when there is a referee stoppage or at least he is going to stop the fight, he will go to the corner and tell the boxer and the trainer that if he didn't show something and he is hit then maybe he will stop the fight.

And obviously no fighter wanted to fight to stop, it's their ego that when the referee jump it, they want to continue. But as we can see Spence is really out class and dominated that it's just a matter of time that the referee will do his job and protect the boxers. One classic example is Pacman vs Margarito, the referee didn't stop the fight eventhough Margarito is brutally beaten. He injured his eye permanently, and there were interviews surfacing lately saying that he regrets that fight, as he should quit or ask the corner to wave the white flag. But it's too late now, as I have said, he is a totally different boxer after that and his eye took the tool of that left hand coming from Manny. Even Pacman begs the referee to stop it. So in this case, it's a good decision.

Yeah, I think you are right. When I saw Spence's face too, it was not in a good way anymore. I just want the referees' right timing of their stoppage because in all the recent fights that I watched most of the stops were not at the right time.
Remember Rolando Romero winning a TKO over Ismael Barroso where the referee stopped the fight while Barroso is still fighting back? That fight I cannot erase on my head up until now and there's more just recently where the referees can stop the fight earlier but as soon as the boxer recovered and fought back that's when they will stop it. That's the worse moment to conclude that the boxer cannot fight anymore.
Anyway, I made my point so I'll end it there. I just hope they will do it better next time.

We are having an event on the boxing exhibition coming this August 05 and this is between the Iconic YouTuber VS the ex-MMA Fighter, here is the event details and cards,

I am a Nate Diaz fan in UFC but not in boxing. I don't think I will be betting for him on this fight. This is just a money-making event and I doubt the promoter will let himself lose on this fight. So, Jake Paul, it is for the win. The odds are 1.28 for Paul, not bad for profits.

[AmoreJaz]

Clearly, Crawford was the one who win that fight after the knockdown in the second round and from that, it's all obvious that he will gonna dominate him through the rounds. no wonder why they delay the fight till now because they know they only have a slight chance to win against Crawford. not it's clear that he is the strongest welterweight in this era

I agree.

Crawford was visibly the greater boxer on that match. Too many good thrown punches and KOs that has been made and all of it are clean. While Spence Jr. wants it toe to toe, it seems that he's too overwhelmed with his emotion and just want to get on him.

We all notice the good offense of Crawford but if we look closer, the good defense of Crawford enable him to launch good punches.  Aside from that the Crawford is way quicker in releasing devastating punches than Spence.  We can look at some confrontation where Spences throw an overhand punch while Crawford counter with an uppercut which connected first that made Spence to go down again in that fight.

I don't have any candidate for him unless Inoue will dominate every upper weight class until he reached him just like how Pacquiao does in his prime.

Many of us are counting for Inoue and if he's going to move to upper class for sure that he'll challenge each of them.

But it looks like Inoue isn't rushing things.  I read that he will stay on the 122 pounds and will fight other great boxer on that weight division is somehow he unified the belt after a fight with Tapales.  So probably Inoue will stay for a year or two before aiming for higher weight division.

crawford put all his bashers down that fight night. a clear win over spence and not just UD or split decision but KO win. so spence's camp can say anything about dehydration factor but people knew that crawford totally deserve such belts.
now, when it comes to inoue, i believe he will stay at least a year on this weight division, and maybe fight tapales. i don't think he will go up for his next fight very soon.

[Fredomago]

crawford put all his bashers down that fight night. a clear win over spence and not just UD or split decision but KO win. so spence's camp can say anything about dehydration factor but people knew that crawford totally deserve such belts.

Crawford showcase his skills in this fight, keeping the mouth of everyone who believes that Spence is better than him, with that KO it's a statement that he proves that he deserves all belts from this division, waiting for whatever updates if there's a rematch or if another fighter will challenge Crawford and how he will deal with his next fight.

now, when it comes to inoue, i believe he will stay at least a year on this weight division, and maybe fight tapales. i don't think he will go up for his next fight very soon.

It's expected that Inoue will challenge Tapes to unify all the belts again. Just wait for the final announcement if when it will be.

[tusandii]

Crawford managed to beat Spence by TKO in Round 9, of course, this fight became history in the world of boxing because Crawford won the welterweight title and has an undisputed world record in two divisions.

Clearly, Crawford was the one who win that fight after the knockdown in the second round and from that, it's all obvious that he will gonna dominate him through the rounds. no wonder why they delay the fight till now because they know they only have a slight chance to win against Crawford. not it's clear that he is the strongest welterweight in this era and I don't have any candidate for him unless Inoue will dominate every upper weight class until he reached him just like how Pacquiao does in his prime.

Crawford has shown the ferocity of his fighting style and he has successfully shown to be the strongest for welterweight even he managed to get 4 titles at once.
Right now, I also don't see an opponent who deserves or can dominate the fight at welterweight and it looks like Crawford will be the strongest for some time to come.

Inoue is now at junior flyweight, junior bantam and batam in 3 different classes. Inoue has managed to become world champion in all three classes and maybe he can catch up to welterweight but it will take a long time if he wants to beat Crawford.

[Yaunfitda]

Crawford managed to beat Spence by TKO in Round 9, of course, this fight became history in the world of boxing because Crawford won the welterweight title and has an undisputed world record in two divisions.

Clearly, Crawford was the one who win that fight after the knockdown in the second round and from that, it's all obvious that he will gonna dominate him through the rounds. no wonder why they delay the fight till now because they know they only have a slight chance to win against Crawford. not it's clear that he is the strongest welterweight in this era and I don't have any candidate for him unless Inoue will dominate every upper weight class until he reached him just like how Pacquiao does in his prime.

Crawford has shown the ferocity of his fighting style and he has successfully shown to be the strongest for welterweight even he managed to get 4 titles at once.
Right now, I also don't see an opponent who deserves or can dominate the fight at welterweight and it looks like Crawford will be the strongest for some time to come.

Inoue is now at junior flyweight, junior bantam and batam in 3 different classes. Inoue has managed to become world champion in all three classes and maybe he can catch up to welterweight but it will take a long time if he wants to beat Crawford.

Welterweight? that is 147 lbs? not belittling Inoue's capacity to go up in weight classes, but perhaps at 130-135 lbs, he might have a hard time to go that high. First boxers in that weight limit will obviously bigger than him, second they are naturally on that weight classes, so they are used to carry that weight and power with them. Third, I don't think that it's a wise decision for Inoue to chase the Pacquiao record because it's very hard to do that. Manny is very different level as you can see, his legs along as being compared to a tree trunk, meaning he is gifted in the beginning.

[livingfree]

I agree.

Crawford was visibly the greater boxer on that match. Too many good thrown punches and KOs that has been made and all of it are clean. While Spence Jr. wants it toe to toe, it seems that he's too overwhelmed with his emotion and just want to get on him.

We all notice the good offense of Crawford but if we look closer, the good defense of Crawford enable him to launch good punches.  Aside from that the Crawford is way quicker in releasing devastating punches than Spence.  We can look at some confrontation where Spences throw an overhand punch while Crawford counter with an uppercut which connected first that made Spence to go down again in that fight.

Well, no doubt that Crawford's defense was really good. I think that Spence Jr. should have just been patient on that match but he's not.

Many of us are counting for Inoue and if he's going to move to upper class for sure that he'll challenge each of them.

But it looks like Inoue isn't rushing things.  I read that he will stay on the 122 pounds and will fight other great boxer on that weight division is somehow he unified the belt after a fight with Tapales.  So probably Inoue will stay for a year or two before aiming for higher weight division.

That's good for Inoue if he's not rushing things. He knows what he's doing and what he's up to. He's got a good roadmap for his career and that's what he needs to follow.

Maybe a year is good enough for his stay but seems two years are quite long unless he's got a lesser fight within that span.

[danherbias07]

Many of us are counting for Inoue and if he's going to move to upper class for sure that he'll challenge each of them.

But it looks like Inoue isn't rushing things.  I read that he will stay on the 122 pounds and will fight other great boxer on that weight division is somehow he unified the belt after a fight with Tapales.  So probably Inoue will stay for a year or two before aiming for higher weight division.

That's good for Inoue if he's not rushing things. He knows what he's doing and what he's up to. He's got a good roadmap for his career and that's what he needs to follow.

Maybe a year is good enough for his stay but seems two years are quite long unless he's got a lesser fight within that span.

I think this is more of good news for John Riel Casimero. He now has a chance if ever Naoya Inoue's camp is not bullshitting us about staying in this weight class for a year or two.
Now, Casimero will need that big fight to put him up in the rankings again because I am sure in those two years there will be limited fights that Inoue's camp will agree with and that means only higher seeds. The worst case scenario is they will just defend the title from previous titleholders like Stephen Fulton, Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Marlon Tapales (if ever he loses his next fight).
So this is not a walk or a jog for Casimero anymore to attain that goal that he had been dreaming of, this is a sprint for him, and the more fights he could get the better the chances that Inoue's camp will find him worthy for a challenge.
I don't know but that keep me excited on what is going to happen on this weight class and I wish it was not just Inoue's marketing statement.

[livingfree]

That's good for Inoue if he's not rushing things. He knows what he's doing and what he's up to. He's got a good roadmap for his career and that's what he needs to follow.

Maybe a year is good enough for his stay but seems two years are quite long unless he's got a lesser fight within that span.

I think this is more of good news for John Riel Casimero. He now has a chance if ever Naoya Inoue's camp is not bullshitting us about staying in this weight class for a year or two.
Now, Casimero will need that big fight to put him up in the rankings again because I am sure in those two years there will be limited fights that Inoue's camp will agree with and that means only higher seeds. The worst case scenario is they will just defend the title from previous titleholders like Stephen Fulton, Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Marlon Tapales (if ever he loses his next fight).
So this is not a walk or a jog for Casimero anymore to attain that goal that he had been dreaming of, this is a sprint for him, and the more fights he could get the better the chances that Inoue's camp will find him worthy for a challenge.
I don't know but that keep me excited on what is going to happen on this weight class and I wish it was not just Inoue's marketing statement.

Yeah.

I remember that he wants to take Inoue but some things just happened and it didn't happen. While it's now on the line that Tapales is going to be his next bout.

Maybe he can have his push to talk and negotiate with the Inoue camp so that he'll be given the chance to fight against him. That's what he's waiting for a long time.

Yet, it's still Inoue's camp that has the final say if they'll allow or not.

[Iranus]

That's good for Inoue if he's not rushing things. He knows what he's doing and what he's up to. He's got a good roadmap for his career and that's what he needs to follow.

Maybe a year is good enough for his stay but seems two years are quite long unless he's got a lesser fight within that span.

I think this is more of good news for John Riel Casimero. He now has a chance if ever Naoya Inoue's camp is not bullshitting us about staying in this weight class for a year or two.
Now, Casimero will need that big fight to put him up in the rankings again because I am sure in those two years there will be limited fights that Inoue's camp will agree with and that means only higher seeds. The worst case scenario is they will just defend the title from previous titleholders like Stephen Fulton, Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Marlon Tapales (if ever he loses his next fight).
So this is not a walk or a jog for Casimero anymore to attain that goal that he had been dreaming of, this is a sprint for him, and the more fights he could get the better the chances that Inoue's camp will find him worthy for a challenge.
I don't know but that keep me excited on what is going to happen on this weight class and I wish it was not just Inoue's marketing statement.

Yeah.

I remember that he wants to take Inoue but some things just happened and it didn't happen. While it's now on the line that Tapales is going to be his next bout.

Maybe he can have his push to talk and negotiate with the Inoue camp so that he'll be given the chance to fight against him. That's what he's waiting for a long time.

Yet, it's still Inoue's camp that has the final say if they'll allow or not.

Well, going to be noticed, it doesn’t matter whom it comes from. So of course the best way to get what Casimero is dreaming for and longing for is to show good performance. If he keeps winning, of course, he’s going to be noticed. And at that time he’s going to become unavoidable by Inoue’s camp. But of course, first of all, he will have to prove himself worthy of such a fight. It is obviously not going to be easy. But I honestly see this fight happening in the future.

But of course for that to happen, Inoue will have to stay in the weight class for longer.

[livingfree]

Yeah.

I remember that he wants to take Inoue but some things just happened and it didn't happen. While it's now on the line that Tapales is going to be his next bout.

Maybe he can have his push to talk and negotiate with the Inoue camp so that he'll be given the chance to fight against him. That's what he's waiting for a long time.

Yet, it's still Inoue's camp that has the final say if they'll allow or not.

Well, going to be noticed, it doesn’t matter whom it comes from. So of course the best way to get what Casimero is dreaming for and longing for is to show good performance. If he keeps winning, of course, he’s going to be noticed. And at that time he’s going to become unavoidable by Inoue’s camp. But of course, first of all, he will have to prove himself worthy of such a fight. It is obviously not going to be easy. But I honestly see this fight happening in the future.

Yeah, that's going to be it.

He has to impress the Inoue's camp for him not able to resist if ever he challenges them or give them the crave to give him the challenge for Inoue and him.

But of course for that to happen, Inoue will have to stay in the weight class for longer.

I guess that he's enjoying his stay there and that's why we might see him a little bit longer on that weight class.

[Kelvinid]

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.

Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

[Yaunfitda]

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.

Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

Yes, we have heard so much about Casimero wanting to fight Inoue at super bantamweight. But he needs to prove himself again at this new division. So far his first 2 fights is not that impressive and I doubt that Inoue caught his attention.

But if Inoue insisted to stay in this weight, then perhaps in the future this two will have to fight. However, this monster is really very huge puncher that I doubt any of the current rank fighters has a chance on him.

[Iranus]

Yeah.

I remember that he wants to take Inoue but some things just happened and it didn't happen. While it's now on the line that Tapales is going to be his next bout.

Maybe he can have his push to talk and negotiate with the Inoue camp so that he'll be given the chance to fight against him. That's what he's waiting for a long time.

Yet, it's still Inoue's camp that has the final say if they'll allow or not.

Well, going to be noticed, it doesn’t matter whom it comes from. So of course the best way to get what Casimero is dreaming for and longing for is to show good performance. If he keeps winning, of course, he’s going to be noticed. And at that time he’s going to become unavoidable by Inoue’s camp. But of course, first of all, he will have to prove himself worthy of such a fight. It is obviously not going to be easy. But I honestly see this fight happening in the future.

Yeah, that's going to be it.

He has to impress the Inoue's camp for him not able to resist if ever he challenges them or give them the crave to give him the challenge for Inoue and him.

But of course for that to happen, Inoue will have to stay in the weight class for longer.

I guess that he's enjoying his stay there and that's why we might see him a little bit longer on that weight class.

Consistency is going to be the key here. I don’t think any fighter needs to have a very flashy style of fighting. He just needs to have a big mouth and know how to run his mouth around to sell fights and it does not matter if his actual style of fighting is a little boring. As long as he’s consistent, he’s going to get what he deserves.

With consistency and hard work, I genuinely believe that Casimero is going to get what he is dreaming for.

[livingfree]

Consistency is going to be the key here. I don’t think any fighter needs to have a very flashy style of fighting. He just needs to have a big mouth and know how to run his mouth around to sell fights and it does not matter if his actual style of fighting is a little boring. As long as he’s consistent, he’s going to get what he deserves.

With consistency and hard work, I genuinely believe that Casimero is going to get what he is dreaming for.

While we do believe that Casimero knows those stuff and everything and can sell himself to their camp. I just recently saw about the thing with Donaire.

It was tough and hard time again for him as it's an emotional tweet that he has posted on his twitter account.

For anyone who wants to know about it, just go ahead on his handler/account.

[Russlenat]

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.

Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

Yes, we have heard so much about Casimero wanting to fight Inoue at super bantamweight. But he needs to prove himself again at this new division. So far his first 2 fights is not that impressive and I doubt that Inoue caught his attention.

But if Inoue insisted to stay in this weight, then perhaps in the future this two will have to fight. However, this monster is really very huge puncher that I doubt any of the current rank fighters has a chance on him.

I've heard about this and I'm delighted that Naoya Inoue have no plans to climb the next weight class after the undisputed fight, I know that the outcome of the fight is not yet known and that he can truly defeat Marlon Tapales because it will mean that we already underestimated him. But it's just too great to discuss about the future where Inoue will have a few more fights whilst defending his belts, and so far, from what I've read in an article, it's either John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.

[Kasabus]

Consistency is going to be the key here. I don’t think any fighter needs to have a very flashy style of fighting. He just needs to have a big mouth and know how to run his mouth around to sell fights and it does not matter if his actual style of fighting is a little boring. As long as he’s consistent, he’s going to get what he deserves.

With consistency and hard work, I genuinely believe that Casimero is going to get what he is dreaming for.

While we do believe that Casimero knows those stuff and everything and can sell himself to their camp. I just recently saw about the thing with Donaire.

It was tough and hard time again for him as it's an emotional tweet that he has posted on his twitter account.

For anyone who wants to know about it, just go ahead on his handler/account.

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

[Fredomago]

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.

Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

Yes, we have heard so much about Casimero wanting to fight Inoue at super bantamweight. But he needs to prove himself again at this new division. So far his first 2 fights is not that impressive and I doubt that Inoue caught his attention.

But if Inoue insisted to stay in this weight, then perhaps in the future this two will have to fight. However, this monster is really very huge puncher that I doubt any of the current rank fighters has a chance on him.

I've heard about this and I'm delighted that Naoya Inoue have no plans to climb the next weight class after the undisputed fight, I know that the outcome of the fight is not yet known and that he can truly defeat Marlon Tapales because it will mean that we already underestimated him. But it's just too great to discuss about the future where Inoue will have a few more fights whilst defending his belts, and so far, from what I've read in an article, it's either John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.

In case that Inoue will manage to unify all the belts from this division and decide to stay, chances that we might see Casimero to come out from the picture, maybe he will have his chance to take the opportunity in facing finally and test how good the Monster is, though before that Tapales will first taste Inoue's greatness.

If ever Tapales failed, then Casimero will be the next to challenge and for sure many fans want to see this fight to happen. Casimero, once trash talk Inoue way back and if fate crosses their way, it will be an interesting matchup.

[posi]

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.
Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

Yes, we have heard so much about Casimero wanting to fight Inoue at super bantamweight. But he needs to prove himself again at this new division. So far his first 2 fights is not that impressive and I doubt that Inoue caught his attention.
But if Inoue insisted to stay in this weight, then perhaps in the future this two will have to fight. However, this monster is really very huge puncher that I doubt any of the current rank fighters has a chance on him.

I've heard about this and I'm delighted that Naoya Inoue have no plans to climb the next weight class after the undisputed fight, I know that the outcome of the fight is not yet known and that he can truly defeat Marlon Tapales because it will mean that we already underestimated him. But it's just too great to discuss about the future where Inoue will have a few more fights whilst defending his belts, and so far, from what I've read in an article, it's either John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.

Kelvinid, It is certainly not too late. He still has a chance. But obviously he will have to win fights consistently and continue to go up through the ranks. I don’t think it is going to happen if he loses even a single fight. So of course that is not going to be an easy task for him.

Casimero will have to beat anyone that is presented in front of him. “the turtle”  is not an exception. There is a chance that the fight is going to happen between them.

Casimero has to remember that no fight at this stage is going to be easy for him.  Trash talking is good for selling fights. But that might turn out to be bad if not done correctly and if the opponent uses this as fuel.