Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[BADecker]

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West is carefully supplying Ukraine with weapons so as many Ukranians and Russians would die...so Ukraine will get just enough to prolong this stalemate for years

There is no stalemate. Any minute Putin could request Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus to take out Kiev, and the war would be one of two things:
1. Over;
2. WW3.

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[Branko]

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

[swogerino]

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

I think with a 95% chance the grain deal will not be renewed. There are several reasons for this, in fact, none of the conditions requested by Russia within the framework of this deal was fulfilled. Any deal assumes that all interested parties receive their part of the benefits from its implementation, in this case, the benefits of extending the grain deal for Russia are not obvious.

That is funny as if I were the West who the f is Russia to dictate what grain deal is or is not,I would bomb the hell out of them and in 3.5 hours Russia would be a desert but hey the West are to soft I know this and that is why Russia behaves like they are the godfather of the world,funny when the Ruble is just 0.01 Euro cent,the lowest in many months showing the misery that Russian economy is deep dived in this hole,I doubt their economy looks recovering soon despite their bullshit BRICS thing which they have gotten together a bunch of extreme poor African countries.

The funniest thing of all this is that Putin continues the war and while Russians become poorer everyday they seem to support it,I thought they were a bit smarter but hey I keep misjudging them.

[Branko]

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

I think with a 95% chance the grain deal will not be renewed. There are several reasons for this, in fact, none of the conditions requested by Russia within the framework of this deal was fulfilled. Any deal assumes that all interested parties receive their part of the benefits from its implementation, in this case, the benefits of extending the grain deal for Russia are not obvious.

That is funny as if I were the West who the f is Russia to dictate what grain deal is or is not,I would bomb the hell out of them and in 3.5 hours Russia would be a desert but hey the West are to soft I know this and that is why Russia behaves like they are the godfather of the world,funny when the Ruble is just 0.01 Euro cent,the lowest in many months showing the misery that Russian economy is deep dived in this hole,I doubt their economy looks recovering soon despite their bullshit BRICS thing which they have gotten together a bunch of extreme poor African countries.

The funniest thing of all this is that Putin continues the war and while Russians become poorer everyday they seem to support it,I thought they were a bit smarter but hey I keep misjudging them.

Luckily, West is led by evil, but smart people, and not by you and the likes

[be.open]

Meanwhile, USA recently confirmed that they will supply cluster munition to Ukraine. I just remind that Ukraine didn't ratified convention on ban of cluster munition, so, everything is ok there.

It looks like a gesture of desperation from Biden against the backdrop of empty NATO arsenals. It won't fundamentally change anything on the battlefield, but it could split the ranks of NATO allies, many of whom have already denounced the move, and rob the US of "moral high ground" if it used to be. The use of cluster munitions can be qualified as a war crime.

[swogerino]

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

I think with a 95% chance the grain deal will not be renewed. There are several reasons for this, in fact, none of the conditions requested by Russia within the framework of this deal was fulfilled. Any deal assumes that all interested parties receive their part of the benefits from its implementation, in this case, the benefits of extending the grain deal for Russia are not obvious.

That is funny as if I were the West who the f is Russia to dictate what grain deal is or is not,I would bomb the hell out of them and in 3.5 hours Russia would be a desert but hey the West are to soft I know this and that is why Russia behaves like they are the godfather of the world,funny when the Ruble is just 0.01 Euro cent,the lowest in many months showing the misery that Russian economy is deep dived in this hole,I doubt their economy looks recovering soon despite their bullshit BRICS thing which they have gotten together a bunch of extreme poor African countries.

The funniest thing of all this is that Putin continues the war and while Russians become poorer everyday they seem to support it,I thought they were a bit smarter but hey I keep misjudging them.

Luckily, West is led by evil, but smart people, and not by you and the likes

It is a good thing you acknowledge that the West is smart,they have weakened Russia to the point that even if the war stops right away needs at least 40 years to get back on track as that is what the war caused to Russia to fall back at least 40 years but hey I am dumb what do I know.They have won something huge with the war in Ukraine,they have put Russia out of the equation with this.

How strong is your ruble man,can I get 1.000.000 rubles I just found that with 10.000 Euros you are a rich person in Russia  .

[Branko]

It is a good thing you acknowledge that the West is smart,they have weakened Russia to the point that even if the war stops right away needs at least 40 years to get back on track as that is what the war caused to Russia to fall back at least 40 years but hey I am dumb what do I know.They have won something huge with the war in Ukraine,they have put Russia out of the equation with this.

How strong is your ruble man,can I get 1.000.000 rubles I just found that with 10.000 Euros you are a rich person in Russia  .

It is good that you acknowledge that this whole mess is orchestrated by smart people of the West, who still
want to make Russia their colony

[swogerino]

It is a good thing you acknowledge that the West is smart,they have weakened Russia to the point that even if the war stops right away needs at least 40 years to get back on track as that is what the war caused to Russia to fall back at least 40 years but hey I am dumb what do I know.They have won something huge with the war in Ukraine,they have put Russia out of the equation with this.

How strong is your ruble man,can I get 1.000.000 rubles I just found that with 10.000 Euros you are a rich person in Russia  .

It is good that you acknowledge that this whole mess is orchestrated by smart people of the West, who still
want to make Russia their colony

Yeah but the problem is exactly Russia who fell to this trap like a fish without brain,they never thought that the West would respond in such a harsh manner after they saw that the West did not care much for when they invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 and this was their bait which Putin unfortunately completely fell for it.

Now Russia has gone so far in this war that it is only damaging itself more than Ukraine except a few civilians it intentionally kills each day,this is no way to win the war by terrorizing civilians,this only made Ukraine stronger and Russia is in a dead end now.

[LTU_btc]

It looks like a gesture of desperation from Biden against the backdrop of empty NATO arsenals. It won't fundamentally change anything on the battlefield, but it could split the ranks of NATO allies, many of whom have already denounced the move, and rob the US of "moral high ground" if it used to be. The use of cluster munitions can be qualified as a war crime.

So, you want to admit that Russia did war crimes by shelling Ukraine with cluster munitions? Or you trying to deny facts that Russia used it in this war or as you call ''special operation?
But as I said, Ukraine didn't ratified convention against cluster munitions, same as USA. And Russia too. So, there is no point ot look for war crimes there.

Let me guess, Jewish Gay Traitor agrees with Islamist Russophobe to liberate transsexual Nazis from captivity.

Without going deep into details - yeah, something similar

[BADecker]

Russia has achieved what it set out to do in the first place. Russia has freed the areas of the Ukraine that it set out to free. The thing is, it cost a whole lot more for Russia than they had expected. However, the Russian advantages are...

1. The sanctions have increased the wealth of Russia, and set into play the destruction of the USD as the world currency... BRICS;
2. The Russian military has been enhanced to be the strongest in the world as of now, by preparing for a real war with Ukraine if necessary;
3. If Russia really wanted, they could easily take out Kiev through Belarus;
4. Ukraine is slowly sliding into obscurity because there is nothing left of their military, except the blabber-mouthing that Zelensky is constantly doing, even though they are being propped up by the US and Nato countries, somewhat.

Chop off the head of a snake (in this case the US, and especially the Federal Reserve banking system), and the body still thrashes around for a while. So it will be for the US. Russia will finally become the world power that everybody was afraid of... with China second.

Note that if China had the strength, they would have invaded Siberia long ago, and taken it from Russia. The US and many other nations would have done the same... if they had the strength. Russia always has been strong, and now it is becoming stronger than ever.

Something like war-crime accusations don't mean anything. Many big nations do the same.


Russia Says Cruise Missile Launched On Crimea As War Reaches 500 Days


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-cruise-missile-launched-crimea-war-reaches-500-days
In another significant escalation, Russia says it shot down a cruise missile launched by Ukraine over Crimea, according to Crimean Governor Sergei Aksyonov.

Drones inside Russia's territory or over Russian-controlled Crimea have been a regular feature of this war, but cruise missiles or other long-range heavy missiles much less so.

Regional reports say the attack temporarily halted traffic over the immense Crimean Bridge:

Krym Realii media outlet reported that several explosions were heard in occupied Crimea at around 12 p.m. on July 9.

Following Aksyonov's claim, local Telegram channels also reported that the traffic was temporarily stopped at the Crimean Bridge that connects the Russian-occupied peninsula and mainland Russia over the Kerch Strait. There have been no further details.

Elsewhere, the Rostov regional government reported that a Ukrainian missile was intercepted over its territory in the south of Russia. "There were no casualties. The debris partially damaged the roofs of several buildings," Governor Vasily Golubev wrote.

As these kinds of attacks have increased and become more frequent over the last several months, Kremlin accusations of the US directly assisting in cross-border attacks have increased. Russia has warned in response it could begin taking out "decision-making centers" in Ukraine in response, and in some cases it has acted on these warnings.
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[be.open]

It looks like a gesture of desperation from Biden against the backdrop of empty NATO arsenals. It won't fundamentally change anything on the battlefield, but it could split the ranks of NATO allies, many of whom have already denounced the move, and rob the US of "moral high ground" if it used to be. The use of cluster munitions can be qualified as a war crime.

So, you want to admit that Russia did war crimes by shelling Ukraine with cluster munitions? Or you trying to deny facts that Russia used it in this war or as you call ''special operation?
But as I said, Ukraine didn't ratified convention against cluster munitions, same as USA. And Russia too. So, there is no point ot look for war crimes there.

I want to say what I already said above. Personally, I don’t see a big problem in the supply of cluster munitions from the United States to Ukraine, especially since Ukraine used cluster munitions quite actively before, for example, shelling Donetsk with petal mines or attacking Kramatorsk with Tochka-U missiles with a cluster warhead about a year ago (April 8, 2022 to be exact). You are right, Ukraine, Russia and the US have not ratified this convention. However, many NATO countries have ratified it, such as Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc. - and from their point of view, this is a war crime.

[paxmao]

It looks like a gesture of desperation from Biden against the backdrop of empty NATO arsenals. It won't fundamentally change anything on the battlefield, but it could split the ranks of NATO allies, many of whom have already denounced the move, and rob the US of "moral high ground" if it used to be. The use of cluster munitions can be qualified as a war crime.

So, you want to admit that Russia did war crimes by shelling Ukraine with cluster munitions? Or you trying to deny facts that Russia used it in this war or as you call ''special operation?
But as I said, Ukraine didn't ratified convention against cluster munitions, same as USA. And Russia too. So, there is no point ot look for war crimes there.

I want to say what I already said above. Personally, I don’t see a big problem in the supply of cluster munitions from the United States to Ukraine, especially since Ukraine used cluster munitions quite actively before, for example, shelling Donetsk with petal mines or attacking Kramatorsk with Tochka-U missiles with a cluster warhead about a year ago (April 8, 2022 to be exact). You are right, Ukraine, Russia and the US have not ratified this convention. However, many NATO countries have ratified it, such as Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc. - and from their point of view, this is a war crime.

does not qualify at all as war crime. The use of cluster munitions in civil populated areas is, due to the extreme chance of collateral damage.  Europe do not like them because they are basically a defective product that fails between 5 and 20% and then stay in there for very long.

To give any credit to those claims of previous useI would need some sources as just saying so does not make it so.

On the "desperation" interpretation... I think if they really worked as intended is perfect for clearing trenches, so it is just the right weapon for the taks.

[be.open]

It looks like a gesture of desperation from Biden against the backdrop of empty NATO arsenals. It won't fundamentally change anything on the battlefield, but it could split the ranks of NATO allies, many of whom have already denounced the move, and rob the US of "moral high ground" if it used to be. The use of cluster munitions can be qualified as a war crime.

So, you want to admit that Russia did war crimes by shelling Ukraine with cluster munitions? Or you trying to deny facts that Russia used it in this war or as you call ''special operation?
But as I said, Ukraine didn't ratified convention against cluster munitions, same as USA. And Russia too. So, there is no point ot look for war crimes there.

I want to say what I already said above. Personally, I don’t see a big problem in the supply of cluster munitions from the United States to Ukraine, especially since Ukraine used cluster munitions quite actively before, for example, shelling Donetsk with petal mines or attacking Kramatorsk with Tochka-U missiles with a cluster warhead about a year ago (April 8, 2022 to be exact). You are right, Ukraine, Russia and the US have not ratified this convention. However, many NATO countries have ratified it, such as Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc. - and from their point of view, this is a war crime.

does not qualify at all as war crime. The use of cluster munitions in civil populated areas is, due to the extreme chance of collateral damage.  Europe do not like them because they are basically a defective product that fails between 5 and 20% and then stay in there for very long.

To give any credit to those claims of previous useI would need some sources as just saying so does not make it so.

On the "desperation" interpretation... I think if they really worked as intended is perfect for clearing trenches, so it is just the right weapon for the taks.

In general, this is a good sign for Russia and for the whole world. There are many signals that there are very active behind-the-scenes negotiations between various participants, one way or another involved in the conflict. I think that with a probability of about 80%, this topic will lose its relevance towards the end of this year in connection with a peaceful settlement between Russia and Ukraine. There is also about a 20% chance that there will be a new phase of escalation in the fall, most likely related to the desire of Poland and the Baltic States to also participate in military operations against Russia. For Russia, this is an acceptable option, it will probably end with new territorial acquisitions. I assess the risk of nuclear escalation with a full-fledged direct confrontation between Russia and NATO as minimal. I assess Ukraine's ability to reverse the unfavorable course of the conflict during the current counter-offensive as zero, I think this counter-offensive has almost completely fizzled out. And there will be no next chance for Ukraine.

[paxmao]

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

Nah, this is supply and demand, if there is plenty of grain available the market price is low. If it is rotting in an Ukrainian granary or in the fields, prices will go up. The first one feeling the impact are the ones who can afford to pay less. So, I agree, countries that need that grain are not stupid and right now it is Putin's "government" making the choice - I can see here yet another "diplomatic success" coming.

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

I think with a 95% chance the grain deal will not be renewed. There are several reasons for this, in fact, none of the conditions requested by Russia within the framework of this deal was fulfilled. Any deal assumes that all interested parties receive their part of the benefits from its implementation, in this case, the benefits of extending the grain deal for Russia are not obvious.

I assume that supporting the countries that need that grain does not count as an "advantage" to the RF? No wonder you have to keep the federation together by force - the RF do not seem to understand the basics of human relations other than "do as I tell you or I kill you".

[be.open]

World, we have a problem. It seems that Putin's regime is not willing to continue the grain & agricultural exports deal through Odessa. What does this mean for you:

- If you live in Africa, you are unlikely to be able to afford grains this year. Time for cat hunting.
- If you live in Poland, good news:  you now hold the key for passage of 25% of the grain food in the world (or so).
- If you are Putin, you are likely to get some calls from your developing countries' "friends" all over the world begging you not to be an asshole.

Perhaps once you get into killing, it does not matter if you are killing beyond your means.

I think with a 95% chance the grain deal will not be renewed. There are several reasons for this, in fact, none of the conditions requested by Russia within the framework of this deal was fulfilled. Any deal assumes that all interested parties receive their part of the benefits from its implementation, in this case, the benefits of extending the grain deal for Russia are not obvious.

I assume that supporting the countries that need that grain does not count as an "advantage" to the RF? No wonder you have to keep the federation together by force - the RF do not seem to understand the basics of human relations other than "do as I tell you or I kill you".

LOL what? Do you really understand the meaning of the word "deal"? Since the conclusion of the grain deal, none of its points regarding Russia has been fulfilled. Moreover, immediately after its last extension, the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline was defiantly blown up by Ukraine in the Kharkov region. A deal is a deal, if one of its parts is not fulfilled, the deal is terminated.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

[BADecker]

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Time for Russia to end the war by taking Kiev.

Wasn't Kyiv taken like one year and a half ago? Oh, you said Kiev, where's that, south Oregon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv

Russia isn't sitting around doing nothing in the world.

You're right, it's taking some A2M and TAP no holes barred while sitting and day dreaming oh Kyiv. Oh beautiful Kyiv, how many shattered dreams of sunflower orcs you caused.

Conquering the world through BRICS and in many other peaceful ways.

[Pidgeon]

Conquering the world through BRICS and in many other peaceful ways.

Have you tried first making peace between India and China?  
And by first I mean before doing drugs!

[BADecker]

Conquering the world through BRICS and in many other peaceful ways.

Have you tried first making peace between India and China?  
And by first I mean before doing drugs!

Russia is taking care of making peace between China and India. It's called BRICS.

Try nutritional supplements sometime.

[Branko]

I assume that supporting the countries that need that grain does not count as an "advantage" to the RF? No wonder you have to keep the federation together by force - the RF do not seem to understand the basics of human relations other than "do as I tell you or I kill you".

I don't see any "west" flags there, do you?

https://youtu.be/PVZehWXvVx8

https://time.com/6163624/russia-africa/


So spread your PR elsewhere 

[suchmoon]

Most of that food didn't go to Africa, but to West, so they can triple price before sending it to Africa. Business as usual
Poland farmers were already on a brink of mutiny and unrest over Ukrainian grain
Developing countries people are not as stupid as you think

You're like a small child who gets a dollar for ice cream and a dollar for candy and comes home crying without ice cream or candy. "Why didn't you buy it?". "I forgot which dollar is which". It doesn't matter which grain goes to Africa and which dollars pay for it, as long as the supply is sufficient to keep the price affordable. Real world works differently than Stalin's (or Tito's) five year plan, try to keep up.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?