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November 03, 2023, 06:48:42 PM
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Ohh the irony, once again the whole world overwhelmingly votes against US Cuba embargo. As usual US and Israel voted against that, but only now we also have a new absentee. Care to guess who abstained to vote if an independent nation of Cuba should have the right to self determination and be able to decide who they trade with for themselves? Undecided The double standards are off the charts



what's Israel got to do with Cuba that it has the entitlement to vote against? and there's one who abstains lol Ukraine for christ sake. what trading do they have with Cuba?  the country has been blocked for more than 50 years and presumably, there is no way that the government of Cuba gonna be friendly to the US in any way which will surely be trading with China and Russia. Castro still pays the price even after his death. 

Russia is moving forward according to some news, jesus they are pushing it all. does it look like Israel is taking Gaza while Russia is taking Ukraine, fair deal?









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independent nation of Cuba should have the right to self determination and be able to trade with the rest of the world without blockades

Comrade, you got tangled up in the verbal diarrhea of your righteous anger. Trade implies mutual "self determination" to engage in said trade, and the US used its "right to self determination" to not trade with Cuba. Perhaps you should ask yourself why is it that Cuba (and most countries for that matter) wants to trade with the US so much, and not with e.g. Russia, the richest country in the world.

Also there is no "blockade".

And it has nothing to do with Putin's invasion into Ukraine but nice try at deflection.
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November 03, 2023, 07:39:46 PM
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Just wow, think this is by far the most damning article I've read (exactly when i was expecting the opposite, some typical rosy propaganda). It'd be hard to imagine even gloomier outlook. 59% of Americans are against sending more weapons to Ukraine and increasing fast, Ukraine is out of options but Zelensky is delusional and feels betrayed by "West". US acts dumb and asks Ukraine what will happen if they'll stop providing aid., Ukraine was giving their lives for US money, but that's not enough now. Military commanders are refusing even direct orders by the president, there's not enough weapons, but even if by some miracle UA gets more weapons there's just not enough soldiers to man them, recruitment nearly ground to a halt, US is using corruption in UA to shift the blame and now just directly tells UA who to fire. Feeling the end is near, government officials are stealing like there's no tomorrow (which for them there might not be). On top of all that UA is also now loosing media war with headlines dominated by middle east. Thus now Ukraine aid doesn't stand a chance in Washington  Shocked
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.

Update from the dnipro banks: it seems that there is certainly a mid-sized operation ongoing to cross the dniper in several points. Nothing to be scared of, just adjusting ownership of a few square kilometers of land, very close to Crimea and not covered by the so called "Surovikin line". It must be going well for Ukraine, because the local military chief psycho has been replaced with another psycho. The cannot fire the team, so they fire the coach.
You have been consistently pushing this fantastic story of Ukraine crossing the Dnieper for several months now, apparently trying to achieve some kind of reaction. Well, you achieved it, here it is - Ukraine’s crossing of the Dnieper is a pathetic media attempt to sweeten the bitter pill of disappointment from a failed counter-offensive and nothing more. There is no meaningful reason or technical feasibility to undertake any large-scale efforts to cross the Dnieper. Stop fantasizing about this topic, this is just the usual petty fuss of sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

I hope that on your part this is just a ridiculous attempt to distract the audience’s attention from really important and key areas. Because if you are sincere and this is truly your best hope for success, then your despair is even deeper than the current situation in Ukraine really deserves. Grin

Oh, sure, if your narrative about the article is right the Ruzzians will be in Kiev in three days. Again. And then they will do a few gestures of goodwill, and then reduce the "scope",... sure we know the drill.

I am not trying to get any reaction on the dnipro crossing, I am just stating that there is Ukranian activity in the East bank and there is video footage of fight, shelling and the usual things that happen when people cannot reach a peaceful agreement on what belongs to who. If you think it is not important, then it is not important. Nothing to worry about.
Of course there is nothing to worry about here. I think Ukraine has more than enough logistical problems with supplying its troops in Kupyansk, Seversk, Avdeevka and Rabotino to add logistical problems with supplying any large-scale group in the Kherson region on the left bank of the Dnieper.

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November 03, 2023, 07:40:11 PM
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what's Israel got to do with Cuba that it has the entitlement to vote against? and there's one who abstains lol Ukraine for christ sake. what trading do they have with Cuba?  the country has been blocked for more than 50 years and presumably, there is no way that the government of Cuba gonna be friendly to the US in any way which will surely be trading with China and Russia. Castro still pays the price even after his death. 

Russia is moving forward according to some news, jesus they are pushing it all. does it look like Israel is taking Gaza while Russia is taking Ukraine, fair deal?

Israel is currently at war and needs US support which they're getting. US jets actively attack nations that supply Palestine like Syria and Iran, so they're a part of this war, although they don't want to admit it, so Israel kissed the ring by voting with the US.
Ukraine wants to get supplied by US and were afraid that if they vote with their conscience (against the US), they'll get less support, but also did not want to get less support from the EU that voted against the US, so they kissed the ring in their own way. Ukraine showed it knows voting with the US is wrong, but was too afraid to do so.

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November 03, 2023, 08:08:04 PM
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independent nation of Cuba should have the right to self determination and be able to trade with the rest of the world without blockades

Comrade, you got tangled up in the verbal diarrhea of your righteous anger. Trade implies mutual "self determination" to engage in said trade, and the US used its "right to self determination" to not trade with Cuba. Perhaps you should ask yourself why is it that Cuba (and most countries for that matter) wants to trade with the US so much, and not with e.g. Russia, the richest country in the world.

Also there is no "blockade".

And it has nothing to do with Putin's invasion into Ukraine but nice try at deflection.

Ah right, this vote was about taking away US's right to self determination, how silly of me not to see it that way. But, only now even if we follow your silly logic we have an even more inconvenient question to answer, why would the whole world vote for taking US's right to self determination away? But something is telling me that you won't answer this, it's inconvenient to have people with critical thinking that follow logic ask such difficult questions, a good tactic would be to become more arrogant and offensive, anything to draw attention away from the question. Or perhaps ask a rhetorical question back, for example like, why do you think a country would want to trade with a global hegemony and printer for global reserve currency (when they always have an option to starve). And the fact that anyone who touches global reserve currency (USD) falls under this unilateral embargo and can get sanctioned, and the shortages of food and medicine in Cuba are all just unfortunate coincidences, right? Perhaps they should hire you to reeducate the world population with your boundless depth of knowledge?

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Ah right, this vote was about taking away US's right to self determination, how silly of me not to see it that way. But, only now even if we follow your silly logic we have an even more inconvenient question to answer, why would the whole world vote for taking US's right to self determination away? But something is telling me that you won't answer this, it's inconvenient to have people with critical thinking that follow logic ask such difficult questions, a good tactic would be to become more arrogant and offensive, anything to draw attention away from the question. Or perhaps ask a rhetorical question back, for example like, why do you think a country would want to trade with a global hegemony and printer for global reserve currency (when they always have an option to starve). And the fact that anyone who touches global reserve currency (USD) falls under this unilateral embargo and can get sanctioned, and the shortages of food and medicine in Cuba are all just unfortunate coincidences, right? Perhaps they should hire you to reeducate the world population with your boundless depth of knowledge?

I'm just pointing out how ridiculous your rhetoric is. Making up "blockade" where there isn't one. Talking about self-determination that is one-way only etc. I'm all for free trade. You're for free trade for Cuba but obviously not for Ukraine's grain, amirite?

Not sure why exactly "the whole world voted" the way it did, but I don't disagree. Let's start with Russia fucking off Ukraine, which "the whole world voted" for too, then we can get to US lifting embargo off Cuba, and eventually world peace. I'll leave the implementation details to you, geopolitical genius that you are.
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https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/volodymyr-zelensky-is-in-a-sea-of-troubles/
The first is that his country is actually receiving much less media attention. For the past month, international attention has been drawn away from his war to another.

Yeah, often times I begin to wonder why the international community like the UN suddenly loss concentration and attention towards Ukraine - Russia War, could it be that they care less about finding a lasting resolution between Ukraine - Russia? Though the US has been the highest donor to Ukraine since the war begun but I feel they ain't too involved in ascertaining a lasting solution to the war between Russia and Ukraine.

Ever since the War between Israel and Hamas started, US seems to have channeled all their concentration and attention to Israel leaving Ukraine and Russia at their own fate. Even some broadcasting stations like the CNN no longer give more updates on Russia-Ukraine war but rather they've focused all their energy on updates about Israel and Hamas war. Could it be that they are being sentimental about Ukraine - Russia war?

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November 04, 2023, 12:22:51 PM
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Just wow, think this is by far the most damning article I've read (exactly when i was expecting the opposite, some typical rosy propaganda). It'd be hard to imagine even gloomier outlook. 59% of Americans are against sending more weapons to Ukraine and increasing fast, Ukraine is out of options but Zelensky is delusional and feels betrayed by "West". US acts dumb and asks Ukraine what will happen if they'll stop providing aid., Ukraine was giving their lives for US money, but that's not enough now. Military commanders are refusing even direct orders by the president, there's not enough weapons, but even if by some miracle UA gets more weapons there's just not enough soldiers to man them, recruitment nearly ground to a halt, US is using corruption in UA to shift the blame and now just directly tells UA who to fire. Feeling the end is near, government officials are stealing like there's no tomorrow (which for them there might not be). On top of all that UA is also now loosing media war with headlines dominated by middle east. Thus now Ukraine aid doesn't stand a chance in Washington  Shocked
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.

Update from the dnipro banks: it seems that there is certainly a mid-sized operation ongoing to cross the dniper in several points. Nothing to be scared of, just adjusting ownership of a few square kilometers of land, very close to Crimea and not covered by the so called "Surovikin line". It must be going well for Ukraine, because the local military chief psycho has been replaced with another psycho. The cannot fire the team, so they fire the coach.
You have been consistently pushing this fantastic story of Ukraine crossing the Dnieper for several months now, apparently trying to achieve some kind of reaction. Well, you achieved it, here it is - Ukraine’s crossing of the Dnieper is a pathetic media attempt to sweeten the bitter pill of disappointment from a failed counter-offensive and nothing more. There is no meaningful reason or technical feasibility to undertake any large-scale efforts to cross the Dnieper. Stop fantasizing about this topic, this is just the usual petty fuss of sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

I hope that on your part this is just a ridiculous attempt to distract the audience’s attention from really important and key areas. Because if you are sincere and this is truly your best hope for success, then your despair is even deeper than the current situation in Ukraine really deserves. Grin

Oh, sure, if your narrative about the article is right the Ruzzians will be in Kiev in three days. Again. And then they will do a few gestures of goodwill, and then reduce the "scope",... sure we know the drill.

I am not trying to get any reaction on the dnipro crossing, I am just stating that there is Ukranian activity in the East bank and there is video footage of fight, shelling and the usual things that happen when people cannot reach a peaceful agreement on what belongs to who. If you think it is not important, then it is not important. Nothing to worry about.
Of course there is nothing to worry about here. I think Ukraine has more than enough logistical problems with supplying its troops in Kupyansk, Seversk, Avdeevka and Rabotino to add logistical problems with supplying any large-scale group in the Kherson region on the left bank of the Dnieper.

It does not seem that Ukraine is having logistical problems in any of the places you mention. They are all either holding well, even ridiculously large meat assaults like in the case of Avdiivka or even with morderate Ukranian gains like near Robotyne.

It would be quite interesting for Ukraine to hold both banks of the dniper for many reasons. Just like Ruzzia is not very happy about having large cities in the east in artillery range of Ukraine, Ukraine is not too happy about having Kherson so close to the frontlines. This crossing as of now is just a border shaping operation, with very close artillery positions in the west bank, if you are already imagining large groups crossing and taking all the villages in the east bank... well, who knows...

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You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.

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You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.

I think that the articles themselves are more related to selling newspapers than providing a honest depiction of the Ukrainian government working and state of things. Ukraine is simply requesting a honest support from the US. Not "just enough to hold" which seems to be what the US is doing right now. I am quite convinced that if the US wanted they would push much harder, but they are quite happy seeing the Ruzzian army burn through their stockpiles, which would not happen if the war was clearly in favour of one of the parts.

I am not sure US is measuring clearly the problems that Ukraine is facing.

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You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.
Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin. In the context of Zaluzhny’s interview, who admitted the failure of the counter-offensive and the lack of understanding of how to win this conflict, all this looks very shitty for Ukraine.

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You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.
Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin. In the context of Zaluzhny’s interview, who admitted the failure of the counter-offensive and the lack of understanding of how to win this conflict, all this looks very shitty for Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has hit a frigate in Kerch and there are indications that an airfield has been hit in Rostov=on-don. The first one is a new ship that was "about to be finished", so I guess Ukraine thought a good idea to actually "finish it". The airport hit is not confirmed but the explosions in the are certainly are - there are several S-400 in the are so that may be a possibility too - they are good at intercepting missiles by waiting in the ground for them.

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Ukraine is simply requesting a honest support from the US. Not "just enough to hold" which seems to be what the US is doing right now. I am quite convinced that if the US wanted they would push much harder, but they are quite happy seeing the Ruzzian army burn through their stockpiles, which would not happen if the war was clearly in favour of one of the parts.

I am not sure US is measuring clearly the problems that Ukraine is facing.
If US  and other countries like Germany would supply what Ukraine asks for, we would see different view. Just remember how much time and efforts it took it took until Ukraine got Leopards, ATACMS, Storm Shadow, I'm not even talking about F16. And even after they got these things, it comes with limitations, likethey're not getting missiles with longest possible range. And Germany is still aren't giving Taurus. With all these inside games they gave Russia times to build defense lines, set up proper logistics, make mobilization and etc. And then someone is surprised that ''counteroffensive failed''.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has hit a frigate in Kerch and there are indications that an airfield has been hit in Rostov=on-don. The first one is a new ship that was "about to be finished", so I guess Ukraine thought a good idea to actually "finish it". The airport hit is not confirmed but the explosions in the are certainly are - there are several S-400 in the are so that may be a possibility too - they are good at intercepting missiles by waiting in the ground for them.
Not just Kerch. There was serious ''arrival'' in occupied Sedove https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1721235952448774536. It's about 100km away from front line. It was ammunition depot and some sources says that russians kept helicopters there too.

Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin.
Nice interpretation of text. You only forgot to tell that Zelensky is a drug addict and that would be perfect combination.

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Ah right, this vote was about taking away US's right to self determination, how silly of me not to see it that way. But, only now even if we follow your silly logic we have an even more inconvenient question to answer, why would the whole world vote for taking US's right to self determination away? But something is telling me that you won't answer this, it's inconvenient to have people with critical thinking that follow logic ask such difficult questions, a good tactic would be to become more arrogant and offensive, anything to draw attention away from the question. Or perhaps ask a rhetorical question back, for example like, why do you think a country would want to trade with a global hegemony and printer for global reserve currency (when they always have an option to starve). And the fact that anyone who touches global reserve currency (USD) falls under this unilateral embargo and can get sanctioned, and the shortages of food and medicine in Cuba are all just unfortunate coincidences, right? Perhaps they should hire you to reeducate the world population with your boundless depth of knowledge?

I'm just pointing out how ridiculous your rhetoric is. Making up "blockade" where there isn't one. Talking about self-determination that is one-way only etc. I'm all for free trade. You're for free trade for Cuba but obviously not for Ukraine's grain, amirite?

Not sure why exactly "the whole world voted" the way it did, but I don't disagree. Let's start with Russia fucking off Ukraine, which "the whole world voted" for too, then we can get to US lifting embargo off Cuba, and eventually world peace. I'll leave the implementation details to you, geopolitical genius that you are.

The documents show that the initial concept of U.S. economic pressure was to create “hardship” and “disenchantment” among the Cuban populace and to deny “money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, [and] to bring about hunger, desperation, and the overthrow of [the] government.” However, a CIA case study of the embargo, written twenty years after its imposition, concluded that the sanctions “have not met any of their objectives.”

One nation just gets to decide if and how another nation gets to participate in global trade. But you are technically correct, if you try to bring medicine into Cuba not cleared by US, US navy will not shoot you down now. They'll sanction you and everyone up the chain, including distributors up to and including the manufacturer of said medicine, essentially bankrupting everyone. So not a military blockade, just a financial one. Same results, different wording.

So once again good ol' American exceptionalism, so US has been doing this for 60years even during the time of peace, whole world has been against it for 31yrs now, but of course we all are activated  to suddenly care very deeply about Ukrainian freedoms Roll Eyes, and surely a good place to remedy this after it's has been going on for 60yrs, would be to start with...Russia during its current ongoing conflict, the biggest offender right?

Taking this even further they're now trying to set a precedent that even straight up blockading food, energy and fuel (effectively disabling all hospitals) to a whole region, is apparently now is not a war crime, as long as that nation still has military which uses fuel and food (which technically military cannot exist without). Seems like Ukraine abstained from telling Israel to fuck off on that too now, but let's all close our eyes on this one too and only get activated and take a position when someone who you don't support does it right? Pretty much the definition of a double standards, but who cares about rules and laws now.

Ability to export goods for financial benefit during the conflict is the least of my concerns. But for the record I'm against cutting power and not allowing inspected fuel (through red cross or similar) to power the hospital generators (even if military might still have some fuel!), regardless if it's in Gaza or in Ukraine.

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^^^ The interesting thing is that Russians are not stupid. Their people are watching everything that the American military does. Then they copy and improve... if they don't happen to already have something better.

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You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.

I think that the articles themselves are more related to selling newspapers than providing a honest depiction of the Ukrainian government working and state of things. Ukraine is simply requesting a honest support from the US. Not "just enough to hold" which seems to be what the US is doing right now. I am quite convinced that if the US wanted they would push much harder, but they are quite happy seeing the Ruzzian army burn through their stockpiles, which would not happen if the war was clearly in favour of one of the parts.

I am not sure US is measuring clearly the problems that Ukraine is facing.

It's quiet astonishing watching you finally come to this realization that US is just using Ukraine to maximize Russia's losses. Yet interesting that you're still holding out hope on that last part, and clinging  to an idea that Nuland just incorrectly measured the problem, and US just continues to mis-measure for over 600+ days now. Denial is a natural response and based on a desire for self-preservation, as accepting the alternative is still just too diabolic for a mind to cope with.

The New York Times-Zelensky Rebuke of Top General Signals Rift in Ukrainian Leadership

The presidential office said Gen. Valery Zaluzhny’s declaration that the war is at a stalemate was helpful to the Russians.

The office of President Volodymyr Zelensky on Saturday chastised Ukraine’s top military commander for publicly declaring the war at a stalemate, suggesting the comments would help the Russian invasion. It was a striking public rebuke that signaled an emerging rift between the military and civilian leadership at an already challenging time for Ukraine.
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The public censure of General Zaluzhny came a day after the president’s office replaced one of his deputies, the head of special operations forces, who after his firing said he had been blindsided by the dismissal. It was unclear whether General Zaluzhny, the overall commander of Ukraine’s forces, knew in advance of the planned dismissal.
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Its operations along the roughly 600-mile-long trench line have failed to produce any advances, while resulting in high casualties on both sides, and Ukraine is facing intensified Russian attacks in the East.
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Ukraine’s leadership is also worried that the attention of Western allies has shifted to the conflict between Israel and Hamas, and away from its war with Russia. “The war in the Middle East, this conflict takes away the focus,” Mr. Zelensky said on Saturday.
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officials and politicians in Ukraine and allied capitals have been passing around blame for the stalled Ukrainian counteroffensive that began in June and has advanced only a dozen or so miles through densely mined fields. American officials have hinted that Ukraine was to blame for dispersing its forces too widely; Mr. Zelensky said his army did not receive sufficient weaponry to advance.
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The decision [dismissal] puzzled some because General Khorenko had scored a string of successes in striking behind enemy lines, including hitting ships and infrastructure of Russia’s Black Sea fleet in Crimea and targets inside Russia. The long-range strikes and sabotage operations of the special forces had cheered Ukrainians.

But field commanders and military analysts had noted grumbling in the ranks over what were perceived as politically guided decisions on strategy, including the launch of an amphibious assault across the Dnipro River in southern Ukraine that has yet to secure a bridgehead on the Russian-held eastern bank. Another point of tension was the firing of battalion commanders who had led units in the counteroffensive in southern Ukraine over the summer.
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Commentators including a member of Ukraine’s Parliament said General Khorenko’s firing appeared to be the most significant and potentially disruptive political meddling in the military’s prosecution of the war so far.

“The firing looks like political interference into the armed forces and into its combat actions,” the member, Solomiya Bobrovska, who serves on the Parliament’s defense and intelligence committee, said in an interview. Ms. Bobrovska belongs to an opposition political party, Holos.

“This is a big mistake, and there will be consequences,” she said in the interview. She suggested that in fact it was the presidential office’s firing of a successful general that would aid the Russians.

So top Zelenskyy aids, claim “He deludes himself” and verging on the messianic. Top general of the country says Ukraine is in a stalemate, but Zelenskyy who 4 years ago was just a comic, claims that top military general is wrong, and it's not a military stalemate Huh and dismissed generals deputy.  

And now:

BBC-Ukraine war: Grenade birthday gift kills army chief Zaluzhny's aide
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The blast has been described as a "tragic accident" and the minister appealed to the public to await the outcome of an official investigation. Police said the explosion in the family flat at Chaiky in the western outskirts of Kyiv had been "as a result of careless handling of ammunition".

But it soon emerged that another five grenades had been found in the flat. Mr Klymenko said that they had been a gift from a colleague in the army.

Two similar grenades were later found in a search of the colleague, described as a colonel in the army.
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A source told Ukrainska Pravda that the bottle had been in a gift bag with grenade-shaped glasses and the explosion happened when he opened the bag. Other reports said that his colleague had handed over the bottle saying: "It's hard to surprise you: That's why I'm giving you combat grenades and a bottle of good whisky."

Gen Zaluzhny spoke of the unspeakable pain and heavy loss to the Ukrainian military and to him personally, describing Maj Chastyakov as a "reliable shoulder" since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion in February 2022.
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However, the official cause of the explosion has been questioned by Ukrainian commentators, some of whom have speculated whether it was an attack targeting Gen Zaluzhny himself, on the assumption that he might have attended his aide's birthday celebrations.

What a coincidence, general's one deputy is dismissed and another receives 3 grenades as a birthday gift within few days.  Roll Eyes

In other news:
WSJ-Ukraine President Zelensky Says Time Not Right for Elections-Zelensky called on Ukraine to maintain political unity in wartime
Business Insider-Russia increased its stock of long-range missiles faster than expected, report says. It could spell a hard winter for Ukraine.
NBC-Republicans threaten to reject Ukraine aid unless Democrats agree to tighten U.S. immigration laws Ukraine literally became just a bargaining chip for internal politics
Reuters-Biden trails Trump in 2024 US election's key states, polls show


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^^^ The interesting thing is that Russians are not stupid. Their people are watching everything that the American military does. Then they copy and improve... if they don't happen to already have something better.

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And not just Russia, China has been doing exactly that as well. That's the problem of letting the precedents slide and only addressing them when someone else does it, oh they did it too? then lets start with them, logic. Calling wars "operations", having PMCs, and now China can fully blockade Taiwan (until Taiwanese military gave up all of their food, water and fuel) and apparently that wont be a war crime now.

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^^^ The interesting thing is that Russians are not stupid. Their people are watching everything that the American military does. Then they copy and improve... if they don't happen to already have something better.

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And not just Russia, China has been doing exactly that as well. That's the problem of letting the precedents slide and only addressing them when someone else does it, oh they did it too? then lets start with them, logic. Calling wars "operations", having PMCs, and now China can fully blockade Taiwan (until Taiwanese military gave up all of their food, water and fuel) and apparently that wont be a war crime now.

Right!

And the really bad part is BRICS... with Argentina already added, and like forty other nations applying.

BRICS might be taking a while to settle in together. But the settle-in time is giving them more opportunity to work out all kinds of little details. They will be stronger than ever when they get done.

Will the US ever realize that BRICS won't be about money once it is fully formed? When will they see that BRICS is ultimately about taking over the world?

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Keep up the propaganda, maybe the fact that Ukraine has attacked the airbase at Taganrog will go unnoticed. Ruzzia says the missiles or whatever was intercepted as usual, the target probably the airbase where the helicopters have now been sent.

What's new on this... well, Taganrog is in Ruzzia.

It seems that near the dnipro more Ukrainian forces are achieving a degree of advance, nothing serious - not yet anyway. be.open, this is not for you to react, it is for the general information of anyone who reads around here.


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And not just Russia, China has been doing exactly that as well. That's the problem of letting the precedents slide and only addressing them when someone else does it, oh they did it too? then lets start with them, logic. Calling wars "operations", having PMCs, and now China can fully blockade Taiwan (until Taiwanese military gave up all of their food, water and fuel) and apparently that wont be a war crime now.

Nothing new.

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One nation just gets to decide if and how another nation gets to participate in global trade. But you are technically correct, if you try to bring medicine into Cuba not cleared by US, US navy will not shoot you down now. They'll sanction you and everyone up the chain, including distributors up to and including the manufacturer of said medicine, essentially bankrupting everyone. So not a military blockade, just a financial one. Same results, different wording.

So once again good ol' American exceptionalism, so US has been doing this for 60years even during the time of peace, whole world has been against it for 31yrs now, but of course we all are activated  to suddenly care very deeply about Ukrainian freedoms Roll Eyes, and surely a good place to remedy this after it's has been going on for 60yrs, would be to start with...Russia during its current ongoing conflict, the biggest offender right?

Taking this even further they're now trying to set a precedent that even straight up blockading food, energy and fuel (effectively disabling all hospitals) to a whole region, is apparently now is not a war crime, as long as that nation still has military which uses fuel and food (which technically military cannot exist without). Seems like Ukraine abstained from telling Israel to fuck off on that too now, but let's all close our eyes on this one too and only get activated and take a position when someone who you don't support does it right? Pretty much the definition of a double standards, but who cares about rules and laws now.

Ability to export goods for financial benefit during the conflict is the least of my concerns. But for the record I'm against cutting power and not allowing inspected fuel (through red cross or similar) to power the hospital generators (even if military might still have some fuel!), regardless if it's in Gaza or in Ukraine.

Are we playing the contrived questions game or the florid walls of text game?

Not sure why you're still yapping about Cuba, even after you quoted something about the embargo not achieving its objectives. Then Gaza. Can't stay on topic? Might it have something to do with the fact that Putin is the aggressor in this context? So you desperately need to find something else to justify the genocidal gnome? What happened to the whole "human shield" thing, suffering a bit of amnesia here, aren't you?
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