Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

So this was back on December 1, 2021 and we all know how that turned out, US pretty much said that Russia is not allowed to have national security interests in any country and NATO will expand anywhere it wishes. Because freedoms and such (except where it's not convenient for US like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Myanmar, Turkey etc...) \

Actually what US said was "No, we will not tell another country that they can never ever join our alliance no matter what."

Except that is the same thing said politely, while behind the scene bribing Zelensky to insist on joining,
despite knowing that means war

[OutOfMemory]

So this was back on December 1, 2021 and we all know how that turned out, US pretty much said that Russia is not allowed to have national security interests in any country and NATO will expand anywhere it wishes. Because freedoms and such (except where it's not convenient for US like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Myanmar, Turkey etc...) \

Actually what US said was "No, we will not tell another country that they can never ever join our alliance no matter what."

Except that is the same thing said politely, while behind the scene bribing Zelensky to insist on joining,
despite knowing that means war

How many wars did NATO start already?

[Branko]

How many wars did NATO start already?

Ask Pope, he probably knows better than both of us

[DaRude]

So this was back on December 1, 2021 and we all know how that turned out, US pretty much said that Russia is not allowed to have national security interests in any country and NATO will expand anywhere it wishes. Because freedoms and such (except where it's not convenient for US like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Myanmar, Turkey etc...) \

Actually what US said was "No, we will not tell another country that they can never ever join our alliance no matter what."

Semantics only work on internal electorate, so each side can sell the news to their people, however they can phrase it best to them. Reply on international relations level was clear, Putin's concerns were ignored and he's made out into a fool who shouts hollow threats. With the current massive NATO "military exercise" my outlook is even bleaker than before. In fact we might've passed the point of no return for Ukraine. Russia made it clear that their red line was crossed. The failure in diplomacy is when it comes to a point where a war becomes more beneficial than peace to all relevant parties. Russia has people and indicated that its more than willing to sacrifice a lot for Ukraine, in fact Putin's ratings have gone up, and an underestimated enigma of Russians has always been their willingness to come together and unite the worse things got for them. US is totally fine littering non NATO country with weapons, and it can come out of this with another Marshall Plan for Europe to reestablish it's dominance and reset it's financial system. China will be more than willing to send a train full of gold to Russia, to kick this dumpster fire off, EU has no say in this (that's why Macron and Scholz running around like headless chickens). Russia declares full war and gets Ukraine, US becomes a saver of Europe once again, China enjoys stability and quietly pushes its agenda in the temporary vacuum. A shame really    

[TwitchySeal]

So this was back on December 1, 2021 and we all know how that turned out, US pretty much said that Russia is not allowed to have national security interests in any country and NATO will expand anywhere it wishes. Because freedoms and such (except where it's not convenient for US like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Myanmar, Turkey etc...) \

Actually what US said was "No, we will not tell another country that they can never ever join our alliance no matter what."

Semantics only work on internal electorate, so each side can sell the news to their people, however they can phrase it best to them. Reply on international relations level was clear, Putin's concerns were ignored and he's made out into a fool who shouts hollow threats. With the current massive NATO "military exercise" my outlook is even bleaker than before. In fact we might've passed the point of no return for Ukraine. Russia made it clear that their red line was crossed. The failure in diplomacy is when it comes to a point where a war becomes more beneficial than peace to all relevant parties. Russia has people and indicated that its more than willing to sacrifice a lot for Ukraine, in fact Putin's ratings have gone up, and an underestimated enigma of Russians has always been their willingness to come together and unite the worse things got for them. US is totally fine littering non NATO country with weapons, and it can come out of this with another Marshall Plan for Europe to reestablish it's dominance and reset it's financial system. China will be more than willing to send a train full of gold to Russia, to kick this dumpster fire off, EU has no say in this (that's why Macron and Scholz running around like headless chickens). Russia declares full war and gets Ukraine, US becomes a saver of Europe once again, China enjoys stability and quietly pushes its agenda in the temporary vacuum. A shame really    

It's not semantics, Putin literally demanded the no other country be allowed to join an alliance that he wasn't a member of.  Obviously an alliance that was established to defend against the Soviets isn't going to let Russia dictate the rules.

Ironically Putins response has made NATO and Europe more united than ever and to some countries made joining NATO all the more appealing.

[Branko]

I'm afraid real tests for dedication to NATO are yet to come

[be.open]

Russia's foreign minister Sergei Horseface Lavrov stepped into deep poo-poo, twice:

I could be wrong, but Hitler also had Jewish blood. Zelensky being Jewish means absolutely nothing. Wise Jewish people say that the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews.

After a predictable outrage from Israel, he apologized... j/k, of course he doubled down because Putinists are never wrong:

We noticed the anti-historical statements of Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid, which largely explain the course of the current Israeli government to support the neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv.

At this rate, they'll start a special denazification operation in Golan Heights soon.

The irony of course is that Israel is (was?) one of the few "neutral friends" of Russia, i.e. not very keen on sanctions despite pressure from the US. I have a feeling this might change.

Lavrov is a very experienced diplomat, he is unlikely to have made a mistake. I think the Kremlin quite deliberately sacrificed a false friendship with Israel for the sake of strengthening real friendship with the Arab world in the Middle East. Israel in the current situation can do little to help Russia, and little can interfere with it - it has enough of its own problems with Palestine.

[suchmoon]

It's from a month back, even with only the "official" numbers that's like what, 10 anti-tank missiles for each Rusisan tank? Now we wait how Russia will reply to such escalations,

Defence is now "escalation"?

How about withdrawing those tanks, then Ukraine won't need as many Javelins.

Edit:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-donetsk-0e361756c6acc287e8974103913abfc6

Close to 600 people died in the Russian airstrike on the Mariupol drama theater on March 16, evidence from an Associated Press investigation suggests. That’s around twice the city government’s estimate of 300 in the deadliest single known attack against civilians in the Ukraine war.

Glorious Russian military at its best - killing civilians.

Or attacking parks and playgrounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnTsmj--Ofs

[DaRude]

So this was back on December 1, 2021 and we all know how that turned out, US pretty much said that Russia is not allowed to have national security interests in any country and NATO will expand anywhere it wishes. Because freedoms and such (except where it's not convenient for US like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Myanmar, Turkey etc...) \

Actually what US said was "No, we will not tell another country that they can never ever join our alliance no matter what."

Semantics only work on internal electorate, so each side can sell the news to their people, however they can phrase it best to them. Reply on international relations level was clear, Putin's concerns were ignored and he's made out into a fool who shouts hollow threats. With the current massive NATO "military exercise" my outlook is even bleaker than before. In fact we might've passed the point of no return for Ukraine. Russia made it clear that their red line was crossed. The failure in diplomacy is when it comes to a point where a war becomes more beneficial than peace to all relevant parties. Russia has people and indicated that its more than willing to sacrifice a lot for Ukraine, in fact Putin's ratings have gone up, and an underestimated enigma of Russians has always been their willingness to come together and unite the worse things got for them. US is totally fine littering non NATO country with weapons, and it can come out of this with another Marshall Plan for Europe to reestablish it's dominance and reset it's financial system. China will be more than willing to send a train full of gold to Russia, to kick this dumpster fire off, EU has no say in this (that's why Macron and Scholz running around like headless chickens). Russia declares full war and gets Ukraine, US becomes a saver of Europe once again, China enjoys stability and quietly pushes its agenda in the temporary vacuum. A shame really    

It's not semantics, Putin literally demanded the no other country be allowed to join an alliance that he wasn't a member of.  Obviously an alliance that was established to defend against the Soviets isn't going to let Russia dictate the rules.

Ironically Putins response has made NATO and Europe more united than ever and to some countries made joining NATO all the more appealing.

Military alliance against Soviet Union is expanding after demise of Soviet Union. Who's the military alliance defending against and what realistic options were left for Russia? Watch unfriendly military alliance absorb every country around you now, or later? It's hard to argue that angle when even the pope himself doesn't agree with you. Regardless, my point being is everyone has a justification for their electorate to consume, and we're at a point where escalations would benefit everyone more than a peaceful solution. Drums of war are getting so loud that even Pope's voice is drowned.

Defence is now "escalation"?

How about withdrawing those tanks, then Ukraine won't need as many Javelins.
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Try replacing it with other countries and see how it works, Russia providing defense to Cuba is "escalation"? Or China providing defense to Solomon Island is "escalation"? Or how about if China provided 10:1 defense weapons to Russia would that be escalations? But there's never ending justification for double standards so because reasons...
Point being, Russia is bad, so now any and all escalations are justified. People are made to think that deescalation in Ukraine is now literally in no ones best interest.

[OutOfMemory]

Lavrov is a very experienced diplomat, he is unlikely to have made a mistake. I think the Kremlin quite deliberately sacrificed a false friendship with Israel for the sake of strengthening real friendship with the Arab world in the Middle East. Israel in the current situation can do little to help Russia, and little can interfere with it - it has enough of its own problems with Palestine.

Seems nobody else is debating your bullshit posts any more.
Lawrov (or Lavrov, Lawrow... however) is a liar.
HItler had jewish blood?
"I may be wrong..."
The thing is, he constantly is.

[suchmoon]

People are made to think that deescalation in Ukraine is now literally in no ones best interest.

May be not in your or Putin's best interest, but if you had bothered to read what I said... remove the tanks -> deescalation. Tanks invaded Ukraine, Javelins did not invade Russia.

[be.open]

Seems nobody else is debating your bullshit posts any more.

Then hit the ignore button and don't quote me again.

Lawrov (or Lavrov, Lawrow... however) is a liar.
HItler had jewish blood?
"I may be wrong..."
The thing is, he constantly is.

Lavrov is not a liar, he is a diplomat and foreign minister of the most influential country in the world at the moment. I’m almost sure that you didn’t even bother to listen to what exactly he said about this (as it turned out earlier, almost no one here has read the text of the Minsk agreements and has little idea of ​​what the topic is about). Meanwhile, Lavrov simply noted that being a Jew is not a panacea for Nazism, I don’t understand at all why everyone was overexcited about this. You may be surprised, but the Arabic language (like Hebrew) is part of the Semitic group of languages. And yes - Jews for the most part do not like Arabs, that is, they are anti-Semites.

People are made to think that deescalation in Ukraine is now literally in no ones best interest.

May be not in your or Putin's best interest, but if you had bothered to read what I said... remove the tanks -> deescalation. Tanks invaded Ukraine, Javelins did not invade Russia.

What for? Isn't Ukraine already confident of its victory with such strong military support from the West? Just burn all the Russian tanks with javelins and wait for the Russians to finally run out of those damn missiles.

[OutOfMemory]

Seems nobody else is debating your bullshit posts any more.

Then hit the ignore button and don't quote me again.

Freedom of speech, baby. I don't use the Ignore button at all.

Lawrov (or Lavrov, Lawrow... however) is a liar.
HItler had jewish blood?
"I may be wrong..."
The thing is, he constantly is.

Lavrov is not a liar, he is a diplomat and foreign minister of the most influential country in the world at the moment. I’m almost sure that you didn’t even bother to listen to what exactly he said about this (as it turned out earlier, almost no one here has read the text of the Minsk agreements and has little idea of ​​what the topic is about). Meanwhile, Lavrov simply noted that being a Jew is not a panacea for Nazism, I don’t understand at all why everyone was overexcited about this. You may be surprised, but the Arabic language (like Hebrew) is part of the Semitic group of languages. And yes - Jews for the most part do not like Arabs, that is, they are anti-Semites.

Semitic language, Semitic people and Antisemitism are very different things. Just read it up on Wikipedia.
So, to get to the core, you're spreading Nazi reasonings here. It were the fathers of Nazism that defined themselves as Antisemites, and the NSDAP was picking up the ideology. It's the same word-picking that the "masterminds" of the Neonazis use to mislead their followers and prospects, pseudo-scientific brainwashing in essence. The same pseudo scientific "theories" that led Nazi doctors to research if one can distinct "pure" and "unpure" people by measuring peoples heads (Phreonology).
You scumbags will never stop believing and spreading false bullshit, while humanity seems always dumb enough to get you new listeners that turn into followers and sometimes even into leaders. Leaders of scum.

You exposed yourself pretty quickly, i applaud to you in disdain.

[be.open]

Semitic language, Semitic people and Antisemitism are very different things. Just read it up on Wikipedia.
So, to get to the core, you're spreading Nazi reasonings here. It were the fathers of Nazism that defined themselves as Antisemites, and the NSDAP was picking up the ideology. It's the same word-picking that the "masterminds" of the Neonazis use to mislead their followers and prospects, pseudo-scientific brainwashing in essence. The same pseudo scientific "theories" that led Nazi doctors to research if one can distinct "pure" and "unpure" people by measuring peoples heads (Phreonology).
You scumbags will never stop believing and spreading false bullshit, while humanity seems always dumb enough to get you new listeners that turn into followers and sometimes even into leaders. Leaders of scum.

You exposed yourself pretty quickly, i applaud to you in disdain.

Your arrogant snobbery looks funny. Impress naive girls with speculative links to Wikipedia, which anyone can edit, for a man with a beard, this is an unreliable source. Accordingly, all your further reasoning is not worth a damn. I think you had no idea that Arabic and Hebrew belong to the same language group until I told you about it. Therefore, do not wag your ass, your argument is weak.

[decodx]

Point being, Russia is bad, so now any and all escalations are justified. People are made to think that deescalation in Ukraine is now literally in no ones best interest.

Russia may have their reasons for this war, but it can never have a justifiable cause. One of the most powerful military force in the world cannot lead a war against weaker countries and expect to be embraced as a champion of peace.

Russia has wrongfully tried to present the Ukrainian crisis as an internal matter. Russia is supporting a war to legitimize its geopolitical ambitions on the eastern flank of Europe. The official policy of Russia is brutal and aggressive. This war, of course, will cost Russia much more than it will give, and a many Russians are quietly afraid that this war might end badly for their country.

[paxmao]

“In a dialogue with the United States and its allies, we will insist on working out specific agreements that would exclude any further NATO moves eastward and the deployment of weapons systems that threaten us in close vicinity to Russian territory,” Putin said.
He charged that “the threats are mounting on our western border,” with NATO placing its military infrastructure closer to Russia and offered the West to engage in substantive talks on the issue, adding that Moscow would need not just verbal assurances, but “legal guarantees.”
“We aren't demanding any special conditions for ourselves and realize that any agreements must take interests of Russia and all Euro-Atlantic countries into account,” Putin said. “A calm and stable situation must be ensured for all and is needed for all without exclusion.”
Putin's statement came a day after he sternly warned NATO against deploying its troops and weapons to Ukraine, saying it represented a red line for Russia and would trigger a strong response.

Medieval thinking 100%.

Again, Putin telling the people of other countries what they can and cannot do in the name of his safety. Again, Putin telling all countries that they cannot join NATO because he says so. This is Putin considering himself ruler of the old USSR and the one who can tell Europe what can and cannot do. It is no longer the case and, after this war, he will be lucky if other "territories" do not start revolting in view of the inefficacy of its army.

US pretty much said that Russia is not allowed to have national security interests

On the contrary, Russia has security interests, Ukraine has security interests (even more now), Finland has security interests, Sweden, Lithuania, Letonia,... all have security interests... the question is why Putin's interest are better than anyone else's. Is it because he's got a better army / more power? Now that argument seems to have a few leaks.

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But what do you know apparently the ghost of Kiev, and the guy who told the Russian ship to fuck itself, before surrendering, are super warriors who are able to hold Russia back! Well that, and little help...

Worry not, Ukraine's battle plan is much more about using the howitzer's sent by France, US, Germany plus a few counter battery radars to blast Putin's army. The Ghost can take the day off. The Caesar units sent by France are classed as the best in the world - even they look like IKEA furniture half-assembled.

Escalation, you mean, as opposed to Putin's de-escalation by sending his troops over the border? By funding and providing military means to his hidden army in the Donbas? Seriously, try to have some sense of reality when playing the blame game.

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It's from a month back, even with only the "official" numbers that's like what, 10 anti-tank missiles for each Rusisan tank? Now we wait how Russia will reply to such escalations, either folds or doubles down and escalate by mobilizing, and what will NATO do then? The world inches closer to midnight, Ukraine suffering huge losses now and stands to loose exponentially more. Anyone left who still thinks this is not a complete failure for everyone? 8yr preparation of Ukrainian army tells me that this was not a surprise for anyone, was just a matter of time

The Javelins, NLAWS and other handheld weapons are very visual and catchy. They have and are helping Ukraine slow the Russian progress. However, the killing has been done by artillery mostly.

A usual, there is one winner to this war (perhaps two). 8 years of preparation and a great success for them. Not a surprise.

... Russia declares full war and gets Ukraine, US becomes a saver of Europe once again, China enjoys stability and quietly pushes its agenda in the temporary vacuum. A shame really    

There you go, you just found the winners of Putin's war.

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Except that is the same thing said politely, while behind the scene bribing Zelensky to insist on joining,
despite knowing that means war

Of course, you can have a government, vote, have an economy and try to be free. But only if you do not anger Putin. This sounds like the guy that batters a girl and says that it is her fault for not wanting to have sex.

I'm afraid real tests for dedication to NATO are yet to come

You are getting a taste of the first one, and Ukraine is not even in NATO.

.... Israel in the current situation can do little to help Russia, and little can interfere with it - it has enough of its own problems with Palestine.

That's cute. Israel does not only mean Israel, but the resources of Jews across the globe that are backing it - certainly influential.

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What for? Isn't Ukraine already confident of its victory with such strong military support from the West? Just burn all the Russian tanks with javelins and wait for the Russians to finally run out of those damn missiles.

Mmm, sounds like a plan... but no. Russia will not run out of tanks - it may eventually run out of young people willing to go into them or able to use them or maybe of ships if they keep sinking "by themselves". The USSR did not break because it ran out of tanks, nor nuclear weapons, nor people - however...

The West has more than enough resources to stall the war and take back, likely, much of the territory occupied. Ukraine has the manpower and the will to be free of Putin. The US strategy is not to win the war, and US does not want to depose Putin - that is far too risky due to the nuclear arsenal -  but to render Russia unable to try this again. That is not going to be achieved by weapons alone, that's sure.

You know who should be ending this war? Europe, Ukraine and Russia. All the loosers.

[OutOfMemory]

Semitic language, Semitic people and Antisemitism are very different things. Just read it up on Wikipedia.
So, to get to the core, you're spreading Nazi reasonings here. It were the fathers of Nazism that defined themselves as Antisemites, and the NSDAP was picking up the ideology. It's the same word-picking that the "masterminds" of the Neonazis use to mislead their followers and prospects, pseudo-scientific brainwashing in essence. The same pseudo scientific "theories" that led Nazi doctors to research if one can distinct "pure" and "unpure" people by measuring peoples heads (Phreonology).
You scumbags will never stop believing and spreading false bullshit, while humanity seems always dumb enough to get you new listeners that turn into followers and sometimes even into leaders. Leaders of scum.

You exposed yourself pretty quickly, i applaud to you in disdain.

Your arrogant snobbery looks funny. Impress naive girls with speculative links to Wikipedia, which anyone can edit, for a man with a beard, this is an unreliable source

A breitbeard, possibly?

. Accordingly, all your further reasoning is not worth a damn. I think you had no idea that Arabic and Hebrew belong to the same language group until I told you about it. Therefore, do not wag your ass, your argument is weak.

You're right. And then i read it up, which revealed that you're making up "facts" by mixing similar words with different meanings. They weren't even defined in nearly the same times of history. Now, when you take the original connection to monotheism, you could as easily shout out "Everybody believing in a single god-like entity is semitic, so the ancient greeks were antisemites as well", for lack of a better example. You could just say ANYTHING to make Lavrov's dumb statements seem wise, but there's no way to find something actually true to achieve this.

I started to play insane Cryptotourist's game now, and you're EXPOSED!
You didn't even try to deny my accusations. "But i never said that i'm not a Nazi..." - i already heard enough of that in the past.

EDIT:
Putin and his pack are the new Nazis now.
They are talking and doing Nazi things.
Coincidentially, the far right parties of Europe are all playing the "Russia's claims might actually be true" card.
A higher level of retardness.

[istiak2277]

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 Poland was already claiming that Russia could attack them so they could be sent a peacekeeping force to Ukraine so that war stays on the soil of Ukraine.

Lol clownworld. Did't know there is currently peace in Ukraine to sent "peacekeeping" force. Last i know there was war.
So nowadays if attack is expected you sent the defence far away and let the country exposed?

Soldiers are fighting on the eastern side of Ukraine, and the western side is still under Kyiv's control. My source of information said that Poland would send a force to western Ukraine and defend Russia from there if the Russian attack came that far. I hope you get what I mean. I am not saying this is 100% sure but there are so many things going on so it is hard to differentiate which info is to believe which is not.

[tvbcof]

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 Poland was already claiming that Russia could attack them so they could be sent a peacekeeping force to Ukraine so that war stays on the soil of Ukraine.

Lol clownworld. Did't know there is currently peace in Ukraine to sent "peacekeeping" force. Last i know there was war.
So nowadays if attack is expected you sent the defence far away and let the country exposed?

Soldiers are fighting on the eastern side of Ukraine, and the western side is still under Kyiv's control. My source of information said that Poland would send a force to western Ukraine and defend Russia from there if the Russian attack came that far. I hope you get what I mean. I am not saying this is 100% sure but there are so many things going on so it is hard to differentiate which info is to believe which is not.

Unlike Ritter, I think it's highly unlikely that Russia has any interest or incentive to put boots on the ground in the West part of Ukraine.  I suspect that by now, given the course of things, they will probably cement a land-bridge on the Black Sea in the South (which will consist of client states rather national integration.)  My guess is that if they just leave Kiev alone, Kiev will align with the Russia/China/BRICS/every-other-sensible-country block naturally since the all the West has to offer is sexual degeneracy and 'sustainable' anti-science economic suicide.  At least once the petro-dollar system completely collapses in a way that nobody can miss.

If Poland (and others) re-take 'their' (temporarily Ukrainian) territory via 'peacekeepers', it will have been part of script agreed upon well before Russia crossed the Eastern borders several months ago.  The longer they wait, the more packed up the place will be with guys sporting swastika tattoos.

[be.open]

.... Israel in the current situation can do little to help Russia, and little can interfere with it - it has enough of its own problems with Palestine.

That's cute. Israel does not only mean Israel, but the resources of Jews across the globe that are backing it - certainly influential.

I understand what you are talking about. When you challenge the current world order, you need to carefully choose your friends and even more carefully your enemies. Judging by the instant backlash from Switzerland after the start of the operation, Putin has pinched the tails of some very powerful Jews, and that's okay. Worse, when these Jews quickly coped with their emotions and began to habitually play neutrality in front of the public. Well, now they have been bombed again after Lavrov's trolling, let them decide whether they are pro or contra. Just don't pretend to be innocent virgins if your country has been living in a state of permanent armed conflict with the Gaza Strip for decades.

Here is a video in which Israeli mercenaries in Hebrew thank the government and people of Israel for their help in the fight against Russians in Ukraine, they also personally thank the rabbi of Kyiv, etc.

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What for? Isn't Ukraine already confident of its victory with such strong military support from the West? Just burn all the Russian tanks with javelins and wait for the Russians to finally run out of those damn missiles.

Mmm, sounds like a plan... but no. Russia will not run out of tanks - it may eventually run out of young people willing to go into them or able to use them or maybe of ships if they keep sinking "by themselves". The USSR did not break because it ran out of tanks, nor nuclear weapons, nor people - however...

The West has more than enough resources to stall the war and take back, likely, much of the territory occupied. Ukraine has the manpower and the will to be free of Putin. The US strategy is not to win the war, and US does not want to depose Putin - that is far too risky due to the nuclear arsenal -  but to render Russia unable to try this again. That is not going to be achieved by weapons alone, that's sure.

You know who should be ending this war? Europe, Ukraine and Russia. All the loosers.

Ukraine can immediately end this armed conflict at any time by signing an act of unconditional surrender. And she will have enough territories and human resources for a long happy life.

A breitbeard, possibly?

Is that some kind of gay thing? I do not understand your LGBT symbolism, the usual full beard.

. Accordingly, all your further reasoning is not worth a damn. I think you had no idea that Arabic and Hebrew belong to the same language group until I told you about it. Therefore, do not wag your ass, your argument is weak.

You're right.

Of course I'm right. People are generally stupid, ignorant and poorly educated, you are no exception.

And then i read it up

Let me guess, you read Wikipedia?

You're right. And then i read it up, which revealed that you're making up "facts" by mixing similar words with different meanings. They weren't even defined in nearly the same times of history. Now, when you take the original connection to monotheism, you could as easily shout out "Everybody believing in a single god-like entity is semitic, so the ancient greeks were antisemites as well", for lack of a better example. You could just say ANYTHING to make Lavrov's dumb statements seem wise, but there's no way to find something actually true to achieve this.

I started to play insane Cryptotourist's game now, and you're EXPOSED!
You didn't even try to deny my accusations. "But i never said that i'm not a Nazi..." - i already heard enough of that in the past.

EDIT:
Putin and his pack are the new Nazis now.
They are talking and doing Nazi things.
Coincidentially, the far right parties of Europe are all playing the "Russia's claims might actually be true" card.
A higher level of retardness.

Breathe deeply, you are excited.

Perhaps it would be a wise decision on your part to start ignoring me after all, because freedom of speech is freedom of speech, but already in many progressive democratic jurisdictions it is forbidden, under pain of criminal prosecution, even just to listen to the voices of Russian propaganda, and perhaps I am just one of them. And in any case, I advise you not to miss the planned intake of haloperidol, otherwise you have already started playing some imaginary games with yourself.

Unlike Ritter..

It's amazing how deep and insightful Ritter's vision of this situation is. Although in my opinion he could handle his emotions better and be less orthodox in his judgments and conclusions, yet we do not live in a black and white world. However, for a full-time pro-Russian propagandist, this is, if not excusable, then quite understandable. However, this does not change the first sentence in this paragraph, Ritter understands Russians almost like Russian. It is a pity that the American system seems to be built in such a way that in it the "former" are rapidly becoming smarter, while the "acting" do not make such an impression. Like you have to retire to be wiser, or maybe retiring just gives you more room to say what you really think, rather than what your job description prescribes.

My opinion is that the independent direct intervention of Poland without the general support of NATO in this conflict is almost inevitable, the question is when and how. The position of Romania is also interesting, which itself has a territorial interest in Ukraine and may support Poland in this endeavor. I think the issue will be cleared up pretty soon, it seems that the fortified positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass are already leaking, and then a large operational space opens up for Russia right up to Lviv.