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March 17, 2024, 07:45:54 AM
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This will stop the Biden team. It seems that nobody in Nato is ready to send troops to Ukraine to fight Russia. But if Biden sends US troops, Trump will laugh all the way to the Presidency. It's all over for Ukraine, except for the part where soon it will be hard to find Zelensky.

No, the answer has always been that it would be US troops in Europe fighting Europe's war that everyone — The UK, Davos and their EU apparatchiks, and the US Neocons — thought would be a slam dunk to bleed Russia out.

And I'm sure that's exactly the way they plotted it out in their Microsoft Project file over at Globalist Central.

That has obviously not taken place and it is Ukraine that is now in serious trouble. Truth be told, which has been in very short supply since the war started two years ago, Ukraine has always been in serious trouble.

And that has led, predictably, to the situation we see now. US support for Project Ukraine is coming to an end, if it hasn't ended already. And the panic in Europe is palpable.

This was all very predictable if you accepted the framework that there was a split at the top of the US hierarchy. One faction committed to the Davos vision of the future which implied a compliant, even beaten, US and another that looked up from their quote screens and said, "Uh… no."
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March 18, 2024, 01:11:29 AM
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It seems Ukraine has a plan after all - hitting Ruzzian refineries with long range, native made drones. This have achieving excellent results in targeting the Oil refineries, some of them well away from the front lines. This is a very costly war for Ruzzia and it is getting worse for them. Some sources have said that Ukraine has managed to at least temporarily 15% of the production, putting at risk the major source of Ruzzian income.

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^^^ Again... something like drones striking into the heart of Ukraine is something Russia could easily do if they wanted to simply destroy Ukraine. If Ukraine continues this, it may well happen. Russia won't sit around and do nothing forever.

Here is the BIG question. If Russia took control of Ukraine in a definite and solid way, literally taking Kiev and ousting the Ukraine government, would that stop the Ukraine war? Or would 'guerilla' fighters keep on trying to destroy Russia, supported of course by the US and the big bankers who are trying to steal Russia for themselves?

Ukraine can do some damage, but their cause is totally lost.

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It seems Ukraine has a plan after all - hitting Ruzzian refineries with long range, native made drones. This have achieving excellent results in targeting the Oil refineries, some of them well away from the front lines. This is a very costly war for Ruzzia and it is getting worse for them. Some sources have said that Ukraine has managed to at least temporarily 15% of the production, putting at risk the major source of Ruzzian income.

Hitler had grand counteroffensive plans 15 days before suicide, too
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March 18, 2024, 01:53:35 PM
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Ukraine can do some damage, but their cause is totally lost.

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It's not solely Ukraine's cause, but the cause of the whole Western world at stake, because once Putin conquers Ukraine definitely, he is going to push forward to the next territories. Each new territory he controls, more powerful he will become, just like Hitler in WW2. And by the threats, presumption and manipulation of reality vocalized by Putin, everyone can be assured he won't stop... The logic of not wishing USA to get involved on the conflict is the same than not wishing USA to get involved in WW2, because it was a war in European territory (what didn't prevented US from suffering Pearl Harbor's attack, anyway).

USA and every other Western nations can join together and fight side by side while everyone is still upstanding, or wait each of the allies to be destroyed one by one individually, having to fight the boss alone or finally resigning to Putin's dictatorship, what wouldn't be hard to believe to happen in a hypothetical Trump's rulership, since he has already shown to have no remorse by dropping his allies on the devil's throat, if they don't pay more money to NATO.

When money is put above loyalty, honor and values, evil overpowers.

At the current times, the free world needs more rulers like Théoden, and less rulers like Denethor...


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Ukraine can do some damage, but their cause is totally lost.

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It's not solely Ukraine's cause, but the cause of the whole Western world at stake, because once Putin conquers Ukraine definitely, he is going to push forward to the next territories. Each new territory he controls, more powerful he will become, just like Hitler in WW2. And by the threats, presumption and manipulation of reality vocalized by Putin, everyone can be assured he won't stop... The logic of not wishing USA to get involved on the conflict is the same than not wishing USA to get involved in WW2, because it was a war in European territory (what didn't prevented US from suffering Pearl Harbor's attack, anyway).

USA and every other Western nations can join together and fight side by side while everyone is still upstanding, or wait each of the allies to be destroyed one by one individually, having to fight the boss alone or finally resigning to Putin's dictatorship, what wouldn't be hard to believe to happen in a hypothetical Trump's rulership, since he has already shown to have no remorse by dropping his allies on the devil's throat, if they don't pay more money to NATO.

When money is put above loyalty, honor and values, evil overpowers.

At the current times, the free world needs more rulers like Théoden, and less rulers like Denethor...

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You have your point backward. Here's how.

At the same time the US warmongers are pushing for destruction of Russia, their almost-bigger goal is the destruction of the strength of the people of the US. You can see it in the weakening of the US economy right now.

What do you think these US warmongers will do when they weaken Russia and the people of the US enough? They will go after China, and the rest of the world. They will then be able to do exactly the things you say Putin is trying to do.

The way Russia was acting with the world changed in 1991. Russia joined in world progress through their use of the US dollar as well as other currencies... just like the US. But that wasn't enough for the US warmongers. The US wanted it all. So they expanded Nato towards Russia, even though they had agreed not to. Do you think they will stop with Russia if they conquer her? Lol at that silly thought.

Wake up and see that it is Russia that is maintaining a balance of power against thew US warmongers.

How can you tell that I am right? Just look at Ukraine, the country the US warmongers vowed to support. Ukraine is destroyed, even if Russia falls. The US warmongers don't care about anything other than getting more power, no matter who it destroys.

Would Putin do the same if he was stronger? Possibly. But right now he is the only thing holding back the US warmongers from enslaving the whole world.

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March 18, 2024, 10:37:43 PM
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It seems Ukraine has a plan after all - hitting Ruzzian refineries with long range, native made drones. This have achieving excellent results in targeting the Oil refineries, some of them well away from the front lines. This is a very costly war for Ruzzia and it is getting worse for them. Some sources have said that Ukraine has managed to at least temporarily 15% of the production, putting at risk the major source of Ruzzian income.

Hitler had grand counteroffensive plans 15 days before suicide, too

Ukraine is not "planning" to destroy refineries, it is destroying refineries. Hitler's "drone" (V2) did not work as well as these.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-drones-have-hit-12-russian-oil-refineries-kyiv-source-says-2024-03-17/

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Long-range Ukrainian attack drones launched by the SBU domestic security service have hit 12 Russian oil refineries during the war so far, a Ukrainian intelligence source told Reuters on Sunday.

Ukraine can do some damage, but their cause is totally lost.

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You have your point backward. Here's how.

At the same time the US warmongers are pushing for destruction of Russia, their almost-bigger goal is the destruction of the strength of the people of the US. You can see it in the weakening of the US economy right now.

What do you think these US warmongers will do when they weaken Russia and the people of the US enough? They will go after China, and the rest of the world. They will then be able to do exactly the things you say Putin is trying to do.

The way Russia was acting with the world changed in 1991. Russia joined in world progress through their use of the US dollar as well as other currencies... just like the US. But that wasn't enough for the US warmongers. The US wanted it all. So they expanded Nato towards Russia, even though they had agreed not to. Do you think they will stop with Russia if they conquer her? Lol at that silly thought.

Wake up and see that it is Russia that is maintaining a balance of power against thew US warmongers.

How can you tell that I am right? Just look at Ukraine, the country the US warmongers vowed to support. Ukraine is destroyed, even if Russia falls. The US warmongers don't care about anything other than getting more power, no matter who it destroys.

Would Putin do the same if he was stronger? Possibly. But right now he is the only thing holding back the US warmongers from enslaving the whole world.

Cool

Regardless of everything you are getting wrong dumBAss and that I will not bother to discuss again here, we are where we are. Ukraine has been damaged but not irremediably. Some of the regions have gotten the worst, while others are relatively ok. The economy can be re-built or even improved by joining the EU and re going after.

But as far as war, again, we are where we are. Cutting help to Ukraine in the way it looks like Trump could do (and he has not said that exactly, he has said he would finish the war in 48 hours or a similar hyperbole) means Putin would be seizing large swathes of Ukraine - those already invaded and probably more.

So... why would he stop there? Why not taking Moldova to "protect Transnistrians"? Why not taken Lithuania "because Kaliningrad needs a better access"? Why not part of Poland "to take it under Ruzzian protection again".

Trump seems to be on the idea of destroying NATO credibility, which is what guarantees peace half of the world by making sure there is little to gain and a lot to loose from a global war. It is simply a bad idea. Add letting Putin look as somewhat "victor" of all this and think that it simply ends there and everyone goes to the pub for a beer. It simply does not work like that, there is a new uglier war in less than 5 years after that.

RE China... you should have a better memory:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-launched-cia-covert-influence-operation-against-china-2024-03-14/
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WASHINGTON, March 14 - Two years into office, President Donald Trump authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to launch a clandestine campaign on Chinese social media aimed at turning public opinion in China against its government, according to former U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the highly classified operation.

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Any other candidate would allow the second-largest economy to put US companies at a disadvantage, he suggested.

But do not worry dumBAss, this is what happens when you loved leader says one thing in the morning and another in the evening.






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March 19, 2024, 04:35:53 AM
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It seems Ukraine has a plan after all - hitting Ruzzian refineries with long range, native made drones. This have achieving excellent results in targeting the Oil refineries, some of them well away from the front lines. This is a very costly war for Ruzzia and it is getting worse for them. Some sources have said that Ukraine has managed to at least temporarily 15% of the production, putting at risk the major source of Ruzzian income.

Hitler had grand counteroffensive plans 15 days before suicide, too

Ukraine is not "planning" to destroy refineries, it is destroying refineries. Hitler's "drone" (V2) did not work as well as these.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-drones-have-hit-12-russian-oil-refineries-kyiv-source-says-2024-03-17/

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Long-range Ukrainian attack drones launched by the SBU domestic security service have hit 12 Russian oil refineries during the war so far, a Ukrainian intelligence source told Reuters on Sunday.
And how many oil refineries has Ukraine already managed to destroy? Grin

The correct answer is zero. An oil refinery is a fairly well-protected facility in terms of fire protection, including the presence of its own fire department. And if you believe all the statements of Kyiv, Ukraine has already destroyed the Crimean Bridge, twice.

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It seems Ukraine has a plan after all - hitting Ruzzian refineries with long range, native made drones. This have achieving excellent results in targeting the Oil refineries, some of them well away from the front lines. This is a very costly war for Ruzzia and it is getting worse for them. Some sources have said that Ukraine has managed to at least temporarily 15% of the production, putting at risk the major source of Ruzzian income.

Hitler had grand counteroffensive plans 15 days before suicide, too

Ukraine is not "planning" to destroy refineries, it is destroying refineries. Hitler's "drone" (V2) did not work as well as these.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-drones-have-hit-12-russian-oil-refineries-kyiv-source-says-2024-03-17/

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Long-range Ukrainian attack drones launched by the SBU domestic security service have hit 12 Russian oil refineries during the war so far, a Ukrainian intelligence source told Reuters on Sunday.
And how many oil refineries has Ukraine already managed to destroy? Grin

The correct answer is zero. An oil refinery is a fairly well-protected facility in terms of fire protection, including the presence of its own fire department. And if you believe all the statements of Kyiv, Ukraine has already destroyed the Crimean Bridge, twice.

I accept the correction. Not destroyed, just damaged to enough extent to deteriorate or stop the production capacity. Refineries do have a fire brigade of course, but they act after there is a hit, not before.  A bridge is quite difficult to damage to the point that is no longer serviceable, a refinery is a much easier target.

Ruzzia is not able to provide an effective defence - that is clear everywhere, they even got a drone over the Kremlin. The strikes on oil processing facilities and depots are happening well inside Ruzzia. You are free not to believe it of course.


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Someone is just smoking in the wrong places as usual.

This is a well protected facility? .But...yes they certainly seem to have firefighters.

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I accept the correction. Not destroyed, just damaged to enough extent to deteriorate or stop the production capacity. Refineries do have a fire brigade of course, but they act after there is a hit, not before.  A bridge is quite difficult to damage to the point that is no longer serviceable, a refinery is a much easier target.

Ruzzia is not able to provide an effective defence - that is clear everywhere, they even got a drone over the Kremlin. The strikes on oil processing facilities and depots are happening well inside Ruzzia. You are free not to believe it of course.
And it's not just random hits, but well prepared attacks because they're targeting most important and most important part of refinery - tower. Destroying such tower stop work of factory for long time. One such tower can cost something like 50-80 million and with western sanctionssuch thing will be very hard to get. It's not like getting microchips or iPhone through parallel import. But offcourse, someone is living in alternative reality and nothing didn't happened there.
Seems that these refineries now need to get their own air defense systems.

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I accept the correction. Not destroyed, just damaged to enough extent to deteriorate or stop the production capacity. Refineries do have a fire brigade of course, but they act after there is a hit, not before.  A bridge is quite difficult to damage to the point that is no longer serviceable, a refinery is a much easier target.

Ruzzia is not able to provide an effective defence - that is clear everywhere, they even got a drone over the Kremlin. The strikes on oil processing facilities and depots are happening well inside Ruzzia. You are free not to believe it of course.
And it's not just random hits, but well prepared attacks because they're targeting most important and most important part of refinery - tower. Destroying such tower stop work of factory for long time. One such tower can cost something like 50-80 million and with western sanctionssuch thing will be very hard to get. It's not like getting microchips or iPhone through parallel import. But offcourse, someone is living in alternative reality and nothing didn't happened there.
Seems that these refineries now need to get their own air defense systems.

Or, according to our resident trolls here, more fire brigades and a shipment of "do not smoke" signs from any of their most trusted allies. I expect to see more of this in the very near future. The Ruzzian Federation is a very large territory, which is great when a Hitler or a Napoleon try to invade it, but not so great when it comes to defend the air space from relatively tiny UAVs that can fly low and follow pretty much any route of their choosing.

Also, it seems that the 155mm shells promised by Czechia are making their way into Ukraine. There is a good chance that Ukraine can balance the front to a greater extent. Next year is going to be quite important, given all the political situation in the US and EUs response to this uncertainty from the historic ally.

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I accept the correction. Not destroyed, just damaged to enough extent to deteriorate or stop the production capacity. Refineries do have a fire brigade of course, but they act after there is a hit, not before.  A bridge is quite difficult to damage to the point that is no longer serviceable, a refinery is a much easier target.

Ruzzia is not able to provide an effective defence - that is clear everywhere, they even got a drone over the Kremlin. The strikes on oil processing facilities and depots are happening well inside Ruzzia. You are free not to believe it of course.
And it's not just random hits, but well prepared attacks because they're targeting most important and most important part of refinery - tower. Destroying such tower stop work of factory for long time. One such tower can cost something like 50-80 million and with western sanctionssuch thing will be very hard to get. It's not like getting microchips or iPhone through parallel import. But offcourse, someone is living in alternative reality and nothing didn't happened there.
Seems that these refineries now need to get their own air defense systems.

Or, according to our resident trolls here, more fire brigades and a shipment of "do not smoke" signs from any of their most trusted allies. I expect to see more of this in the very near future. The Ruzzian Federation is a very large territory, which is great when a Hitler or a Napoleon try to invade it, but not so great when it comes to defend the air space from relatively tiny UAVs that can fly low and follow pretty much any route of their choosing.

Also, it seems that the 155mm shells promised by Czechia are making their way into Ukraine. There is a good chance that Ukraine can balance the front to a greater extent. Next year is going to be quite important, given all the political situation in the US and EUs response to this uncertainty from the historic ally.

Rooineks and Yankees again show that they're here for profit and don't care about Ukraine at all:

https://www.ft.com/content/98f15b60-bc4d-4d3c-9e57-cbdde122ac0c
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I accept the correction. Not destroyed, just damaged to enough extent to deteriorate or stop the production capacity. Refineries do have a fire brigade of course, but they act after there is a hit, not before.  A bridge is quite difficult to damage to the point that is no longer serviceable, a refinery is a much easier target.

Ruzzia is not able to provide an effective defence - that is clear everywhere, they even got a drone over the Kremlin. The strikes on oil processing facilities and depots are happening well inside Ruzzia. You are free not to believe it of course.
And it's not just random hits, but well prepared attacks because they're targeting most important and most important part of refinery - tower. Destroying such tower stop work of factory for long time. One such tower can cost something like 50-80 million and with western sanctionssuch thing will be very hard to get. It's not like getting microchips or iPhone through parallel import. But offcourse, someone is living in alternative reality and nothing didn't happened there.
Seems that these refineries now need to get their own air defense systems.

Or, according to our resident trolls here, more fire brigades and a shipment of "do not smoke" signs from any of their most trusted allies. I expect to see more of this in the very near future. The Ruzzian Federation is a very large territory, which is great when a Hitler or a Napoleon try to invade it, but not so great when it comes to defend the air space from relatively tiny UAVs that can fly low and follow pretty much any route of their choosing.

Also, it seems that the 155mm shells promised by Czechia are making their way into Ukraine. There is a good chance that Ukraine can balance the front to a greater extent. Next year is going to be quite important, given all the political situation in the US and EUs response to this uncertainty from the historic ally.

Rooineks and Yankees again show that they're here for profit and don't care about Ukraine at all:

https://www.ft.com/content/98f15b60-bc4d-4d3c-9e57-cbdde122ac0c

It would seem to me that it is Ukraine that does not care about "instruction from Washington". Was not your theory that they were "puppets" from the US / Jews / whatever?

But going back to real life, Ukraine can freely hit whatever they want in Ruzzia except perhaps nuclear facilities and the like. US is not sending the aid that is needed, Europe is trying but it takes time, but meanwhile Putin is planning the summer campaign. Now, how do you stop them? Shutdown the gas station.

The obvious problem is that the US is on campaign year, so the worry from Ukraine is about a government change that would make the support linger or stop or be subject to conditions that are not acceptable. Shutting down Ruzzian production makes oil more expensive and that is usually bad for re-elections.

Why has Ukraine taking this decision then? Because they need to - best option left. As simple as that, and my take is that if they do not get the US aid package, these strikes are going to be quite common.


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It would seem to me that it is Ukraine that does not care about "instruction from Washington". Was not your theory that they were "puppets" from the US / Jews / whatever?

But going back to real life, Ukraine can freely hit whatever they want in Ruzzia except perhaps nuclear facilities and the like. US is not sending the aid that is needed, Europe is trying but it takes time, but meanwhile Putin is planning the summer campaign. Now, how do you stop them? Shutdown the gas station.

The obvious problem is that the US is on campaign year, so the worry from Ukraine is about a government change that would make the support linger or stop or be subject to conditions that are not acceptable. Shutting down Ruzzian production makes oil more expensive and that is usually bad for re-elections.

Why has Ukraine taking this decision then? Because they need to - best option left. As simple as that, and my take is that if they do not get the US aid package, these strikes are going to be quite common.
President advisor Podolyak also denied news about this US request. But I kinda don't trust what politicians says and realactions is more important than words. This time it wasn't just words because Ukraine continues to attack Russian oil refineries. Today Novokuibyshevsk Refinery in Samaria region was attacked
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/one-dead-oil-refinery-fire-070805451.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABtuT1ZdTVWCKRp2gBHBIlj0Earyz8WKQj3b4E0NQEr1XppWY-8sNcevma2ockJvRBuk6C2eCGBS-Sg-LwAFSVG0yDoWP7Vt08KBqzl7IIM-YGiYMPlH7MIchoaFmi4CNx5_8VIVZwwuFjJtQC_JoCK_gEGdwtIjo3r57Snkr0Pq
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1771341143826919687

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Will Russia ever learn? Here they go, making the big, nasty, Ukraine angrier than all get-out. Will Russia even last out the year?  Grin


Swathes Of Ukraine Go Dark After Russia Pummels Electrical Power Facilities In Huge Retaliation



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The Russian Defense Ministry (MoD) in a press briefing detailed its retaliatory attacks which it described as a direct response to the shelling of Russian territory. The MoD confirmed that it has hit "energy and military industry facilities, railway junctions and arsenals."

Significantly the country's largest hydroelectric plant at Dnieper has been shut down after what appears a major missile strike impacting its vital operations. Various regions impacted have been left without power, and there are widespread reports of new internet outages in Ukraine.

Russia's military touted that "all the goals of the massive strike have been achieved" - which reportedly included hits on "foreign military equipment and ordnance delivered by NATO countries" which were destroyed, according to state-run TASS.

Unconfirmed footage is widely circulating which shows a Russian cruise missile slam into the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Plant:


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#WATCH: The moment when a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile hit the Dnipro Hydroelectric Station this morning.

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Will Russia ever learn? Here they go, making the big, nasty, Ukraine angrier than all get-out. Will Russia even last out the year?  Grin


Swathes Of Ukraine Go Dark After Russia Pummels Electrical Power Facilities In Huge Retaliation
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Oh, I can see that we now got two people posting smiles when people get killed in Ukraine. This is all your concern for peace and people not dying - you are a cynic and a psychopath (apart from that, your are a dumBAss)

And once again you get it wrong. There is no "retaliation", firstly because Ukraine is not invading Ruzzia, it is the opposite and if you choose to ignore that, Ruzzia has done the same several times without any other reason than causing problems to Ukrainians. There is no that much of an effect on the war, it does have an effect in the long term need to rebuild Ukraine.

Oh, before I forget, these strikes are not "revenge" or a decision taken in a day because, even for technical reasons it takes at minimum a month of planning to just program the missiles, get the ships / airframes / launchers in place ... no to mention gather enough missiles.

But this does not nothing but cause some problems, will not change the war. What could have a real effect is Ukraine being able to hit frequently the oil depots and refineries all over western Ruzzia - much better targets, much more expensive, much more difficult to repair and absolutely vital for the financing of the war.

BTW, it seems that Ukraine did get angry after all - there just seems to be a missile strike in Sebastopol.



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The US is using Ukraine to push Russia towards a nuclear war. But they know Russia will never react like that except as a last resort. Russia holding off on the nukes is giving her time to prove that it is the US and Ukraine who are the aggressors... since Ukraine started it all in 2014 and earlier,


Deadly Moscow terror attack was clearly carried out with the help of Ukraine and the CIA



https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-03-24-deadly-moscow-terror-attack-carried-out-ukraine-and-cia.html
In a horrific incident that has left the nation in shock, a large concert venue near Moscow became the scene of a mass shooting late Friday. The Crocus City Hall attack resulted in over 100 people dead, including children, and is one of the worst terrorist attacks in Russia's modern history. According to the latest estimates, at least 133 people were killed and scores injured in the deadly shooting and subsequent fire sparked by a group of gunmen who stormed the Crocus City Hall, a large music venue just outside of the Russian capital. Details are still emerging, but according to Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), the attack was carefully planned and designed to maximize casualties. An investigation into the incident is underway.

Perpetrators detained: Eleven people, including four terrorists who were directly involved in the deadly shooting, have been detained, the FSB said in a statement on Saturday. According to the security service, the weapons used in the shooting were organized in a cache in advance. Russia’s Investigative Committee also confirmed that four suspects who “committed the terrorist attack” on Crocus City Hall were detained in Bryansk Region, “not far from the border with Ukraine.” According to the authorities, the terrorists planned to flee to Ukraine.


Putin's address to the nation: Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the nation following the terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall. He expressed his condolences to the victims and families affected by the shooting, and said that everyone responsible for the tragedy will be punished. All the attackers involved have been arrested and the security forces are doing everything possible to protect Russian citizens against further mass murder, the president added. The main thing now is to prevent those who are behind this bloodbath from committing another crime, he said in the address on Saturday.

Terrorist attack suspect interrogated: On Saturday, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan posted footage of the interrogation of one of the suspects. The man in the video claims that he went on the killing spree after he was promised 500,000 rubles ($5,400). The suspect also claimed that his handlers had instructed him as to where the attack should take place. He said he was ordered to “kill people there… doesn’t matter who.” The suspect claimed that the terrorist act was organized on Telegram with an unknown person who provided weapons.

During the attack, eyewitnesses reported that the gunmen opened fire at point-blank range on anyone who came within view. The attackers then set the building ablaze, causing a massive fire that quickly engulfed much of the seven-story structure, including the roof. Multiple fire brigades and aircraft were deployed to extinguish the flames, but around 13,000 square meters of the building were destroyed in the inferno.

Governments from across the world have expressed their condolences and support for the Russian people following the massacre. International organizations, as well as EU and NATO officials, have condemned the terrorist attack. Hundreds of mourners placed flowers at Moscow's diplomatic missions in various countries, including Mexico, Moldova, Serbia, Canada, the US, and Argentina. Meanwhile, dozens of Muscovites have been lining up at the city's hospitals to donate blood to the victims of the deadly shooting.

Earlier this month, the US issued a warning to its citizens in Russia, urging them to avoid public places and mass gatherings due to "extremists" having imminent plans for an attack in Moscow. Several other embassies followed suit, issuing similar alerts. However, White House adviser John Kirby has said Washington had no specific "advance knowledge" of Friday's shooting.

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The investigation into the horrific attack at a Concert Hall in the Moscow region has identified one of the attackers as Rustam Azhiyev, a former Ukrainian soldier who served in 2022. The White Renault automobile seen on dashcam footage outside the concert hall, with men exiting carrying rifles, was captured hours after the attack near Bryansk, Russia. The men inside, who had fled to nearby woods, were identified as citizens of Tajikistan.

The rapid development of this investigation has raised questions about why the suspects were traveling toward Ukraine when they are allegedly from Tajikistan and why one of the suspects has ties to the Ukrainian armed forces. As the world mourns the tragic loss of life in this senseless act of violence, it remains to be seen what further information will emerge from the ongoing investigation.

Huge emotional impact among the Russian people
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So Security at the Crocus City Hall usually carry Guns, except on the day they need them.
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Will Russia ever learn? Here they go, making the big, nasty, Ukraine angrier than all get-out. Will Russia even last out the year?  Grin


Swathes Of Ukraine Go Dark After Russia Pummels Electrical Power Facilities In Huge Retaliation
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Oh, I can see that we now got two people posting smiles when people get killed in Ukraine. This is all your concern for peace and people not dying - you are a cynic and a psychopath (apart from that, your are a dumBAss)

And once again you get it wrong. There is no "retaliation", firstly because Ukraine is not invading Ruzzia, it is the opposite and if you choose to ignore that, Ruzzia has done the same several times without any other reason than causing problems to Ukrainians. There is no that much of an effect on the war, it does have an effect in the long term need to rebuild Ukraine.

Oh, before I forget, these strikes are not "revenge" or a decision taken in a day because, even for technical reasons it takes at minimum a month of planning to just program the missiles, get the ships / airframes / launchers in place ... no to mention gather enough missiles.

But this does not nothing but cause some problems, will not change the war. What could have a real effect is Ukraine being able to hit frequently the oil depots and refineries all over western Ruzzia - much better targets, much more expensive, much more difficult to repair and absolutely vital for the financing of the war.

BTW, it seems that Ukraine did get angry after all - there just seems to be a missile strike in Sebastopol.



I hope that after the recent loss of the DneproGES and Europe’s largest underground gas storage facility, Ukraine will begin to more soberly assess its capabilities in causing economic damage to Russia by attacking refineries. If 15,000 Western sanctions didn't work, why should drone attacks work?

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I hope that after the recent loss of the DneproGES and Europe’s largest underground gas storage facility, Ukraine will begin to more soberly assess its capabilities in causing economic damage to Russia by attacking refineries. If 15,000 Western sanctions didn't work, why should drone attacks work?

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