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November 04, 2022, 03:27:15 AM
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I don't think World Cup participants will change one weeks left match begin and impossible what happen at Ecuador national team give bigger impact loss their participants at the World Cup. The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) seems bullshit when announcing about Ecuador problem faced and I don't think effective for FIFA want to change with other countries. Chile not hurry up preparing team because schedule match have drawing and Ecuador will participants at this World Cup what ever final decision from CAS not change with World Cup national team participants.

Agreed. I don't think that FIFA is under any obligation to follow the orders that are coming from the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). But one catch is that both of these organizations have headquarters in the same country. The FIFA has its headquarters in Zürich (Switzerland), while the CAS is located in Lausanne, Switzerland. I am not a legal expert, and therefore can't predict what will happen if the CAS passes a judgement against FIFA. All that said, I am still mad at the Chileans. Why can't they just accept the fact that Ecuador is a better team?

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November 04, 2022, 04:59:31 AM
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I don't think World Cup participants will change one weeks left match begin and impossible what happen at Ecuador national team give bigger impact loss their participants at the World Cup. The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) seems bullshit when announcing about Ecuador problem faced and I don't think effective for FIFA want to change with other countries. Chile not hurry up preparing team because schedule match have drawing and Ecuador will participants at this World Cup what ever final decision from CAS not change with World Cup national team participants.

Agreed. I don't think that FIFA is under any obligation to follow the orders that are coming from the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). But one catch is that both of these organizations have headquarters in the same country. The FIFA has its headquarters in Zürich (Switzerland), while the CAS is located in Lausanne, Switzerland. I am not a legal expert, and therefore can't predict what will happen if the CAS passes a judgement against FIFA. All that said, I am still mad at the Chileans. Why can't they just accept the fact that Ecuador is a better team?
While at this point it is unrealistic that FIFA is going to allow another team be disqualified over something like this, at the same time the Chilean soccer association is just following the appropriate channels for their claims, so there is not much that can be done at this point, however I think that at this point they are not really looking to actually make it to the world cup, but instead they are looking for FIFA to compromise and pay them a huge amount of money so they desist from pursuing this case.
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That's bad. Politics shouldn't have so much saying in sport. The best nations who qualified should compete in the World Cup and that's it! I understand that FIFA wants to kick politics out of football, but there are other way. Players that play for Tunisia are not to be blamed or punished just because their government is involved in their football federation.

Any international sports competition is political in a way, since there are countries participating in them...

For example Russia was disqualified from this world cup: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/russia-out-world-cup-2022-poland-advanced-ukraine-postponed-qualify/oxyxia6hvqgo5ljgj60wfnla

I don't agree with that decision either. Maybe I will make a lot of people angry by saying this, but sport should be sport. And decisions made by politicians should not affect players. How come the Russians were able to compete in the Olympic games under a neutral flag when there was doping scandal few years ago? Personally I think that is bigger issue in sport than some politicians deciding to attack another country.

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November 04, 2022, 07:59:12 AM
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While at this point it is unrealistic that FIFA is going to allow another team be disqualified over something like this, at the same time the Chilean soccer association is just following the appropriate channels for their claims, so there is not much that can be done at this point, however I think that at this point they are not really looking to actually make it to the world cup, but instead they are looking for FIFA to compromise and pay them a huge amount of money so they desist from pursuing this case.

They went through the appropriate channel at first. FIFA appeals committee heard the first complaint from the Federación de Fútbol de Chile (FFCh). They went to CAS, after FIFA rejected their appeals. Now it would really be a surprise if CAS overturns the decision from FIFA. If somehow that happens, then we can expect a lot of chaos ahead of the world cup. FIFA may choose to ignore the ruling from the CAS, but it can lead to unwanted consequences for the sports body. It will be beneficial for all the sides, if FFCh withdraws their appeal with the CAS.

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November 04, 2022, 11:14:07 AM
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In Iran there is also quite a lot to do about the participation of the national team in the tournament. There is even an organization that has sent an official letter to FIFA through a lawyer asking for the country to be excluded, because in that country also inhumane things happen according to their sources. But I think you can notice or criticize things in every country. it seems to me that FIFA will go along with this and of course would not exclude Iran from participating. Italy of course still wants to participate through this back door. Although you might just have to leave a group of 3 instead of adding another country so late.

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November 04, 2022, 11:46:38 AM
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There are rumors that Italy might join WC instead of Tunisia but so far nothing official. So much politics involved lately in this World Cup and to be honest , I'm not expecting a great World Cup that people will remember over the years but we might have a final that we might remember forever if Messi and Argentina will lift the Cup.  Grin

I think you heard wrong. I read somewhere that Ukraine has sent an official request to FIFA to kick Iran out of the World Cup because Iran is allegedly sending its weapons to the Russian military.
On the other hand, it seems that the case with Ecuador is not over yet and that the final decision should be made by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).
Is it possible that both national teams, Iran and Ecuador, will be kicked out of the world championship? Who should replace them in that case? If the criterion would be the FIFA ranking, then the first candidate is Italy.
This is a really unusual situation. There are still a few weeks left until the world cup, and we still don't know who will participate in this world cup.
Maybe they are preparing to include Ukraine and Italy in the World Cup at the last minute, in accordance with the new political correctness?




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Qatar have put much effort on making it big than any of the previous FIFA. The wealth is an important reason, and the real change have happened out of making changes to their law. As this is a global event, to keep every audience comfortable they've made big arrangements and even allowed alcohol with some restrictions which is really unexpected from Qatar.

As said Human lives aren't considered as a big thing. This need to change, some organisations gave voice and none to support them. They're suppressed and the same thing could happen when another country like Qatar host the event. So, this should have been taken seriously.

The world has become more money minded and human lives (especially those from the third world nations) are not considered as very important. Qatar is an important player in the global LNG market, and hardly anyone among the mainstream media has the courage to say something against them. It is very surprising to see a country such as Belarus getting suspended from FIFA tournaments for its role in the war in Ukraine, while Qatar hosting the event despite thousands of deaths among the laborers who built all those stadiums.

Well sometimes we can say and think a lot of things, personally I don't really like to comment on those that are prohibited, or on religion or on people's sexual inclinations because they are very sensitive issues and sometimes they are usually so vulnerable that without guilt can offend those people who are very involved there, that's why I prefer to say and think that when it comes to sports there shouldn't be any kind of politics, because from my own experience, I live in a country where all citizens live off the apolitical but those who have the money are not all the citizens but the politicians, so for me there should be no prohibitions of any kind when it comes to sports, much less in football..


Well that's sad for many fans especially those who got use to alchol during the matches. There might be alchol in hotels with some limitations but still not inside the stadium to prevent some things from happening and sort of images. Even female fans that use to dress very inappropriately will be banned from doing that too i believe. But for some stays not a bad thing and for Muslim families it's a good thing. But what matters is this great event to pass well and everyone enjoys it. Real fans will enjoy football specifically no matter what
regarding the dress code for women who want to watch the FIFA World Cup match in Qatar. actually not that difficult. non-Muslim women from abroad do not have to wear a hijab to cover their hair. they can still untangle their hair without having to cover it. the important thing is to dress modestly, namely clothes that cover the shoulders for clothes and wear skirts that are below the knee. so even short shirts can still be worn there, safe not tight and still covering the shoulders. related to regulations drinking alcohol is only allowed in certain locations. such as the FIFA fan festival venue at Doha's Al Bidda Park. and also in several other places such as hotels and others.

Well for me all this is very curious, because I had never seen before that one of the World Cups had caused so much controversy due to its type of traditions and culture as such, I think that is also one of the reasons why it was done for Qatar, to experience very different and different things, of course, that now the world has a different tone and is focused on inclusion, which in my opinion should not be talked about because it tarnishes what sport is, however, as I said before, if we are In a country that is relatively delicate with its culture and traditions, we must respect that and stick to its rules.

A relevant article, and I think things are still going well despite all these things...

[Qatar Airways mark 20 days to go for FIFA World Cup/i]



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“Hosting this tournament is a big achievement for us, and we are ready to unite fans worldwide and provide them with an exceptional experience.”

FIFA president Gianni Infantino added: “This will be the first FIFA World Cup to take place in the Middle East and the Arab World, and our partners Qatar Airways and Hamad International Airport will play a key role in the delivery of this amazing event.

“They are ready to welcome millions of fans to Doha, showcase the Host Country’s unique hospitality, and ensure top-class service and the most memorable experiences, contributing to making this the best FIFA World Cup ever.”

Source: https://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/qatar-airways-mark-20-days-to-go-for-fifa-world-cup/


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I think you heard wrong. I read somewhere that Ukraine has sent an official request to FIFA to kick Iran out of the World Cup because Iran is allegedly sending its weapons to the Russian military.
On the other hand, it seems that the case with Ecuador is not over yet and that the final decision should be made by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).
Is it possible that both national teams, Iran and Ecuador, will be kicked out of the world championship? Who should replace them in that case? If the criterion would be the FIFA ranking, then the first candidate is Italy.
This is a really unusual situation. There are still a few weeks left until the world cup, and we still don't know who will participate in this world cup.
Maybe they are preparing to include Ukraine and Italy in the World Cup at the last minute, in accordance with the new political correctness?
So funny with Ukraine request want to eliminate Iran from World Cup national team participants after support and helped Russia in war conflict between Ukraine, almost impossible if want change some national team few days later match begin, realistic if Iran eliminated from World Cup, national team replacement not Ukraine but also from Asian national team.
If possible kicked out Ecuador and Iran I don't think Italy will be national team replacement because have different region and actually replacement from each zone between Asian and CONMEBOL likely Chile, seems shy what happen with Italy and Ukraine want to play at World Cup after failed at qualify round.

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In Germany, there have been repeated rumors in recent weeks that Toni Kroos could make a comeback to the German national team. However, Kroos now has made it clear that he will not change his decision and he will not return to the German team.

Therefore, Germany will have to get along without the midfielder at the World Cup in Qatar.

Kroos on a possible comeback to the national team: "I won't be at the World Cup, but I'm sure that when I watch the matches, I'll want to play. But I've already decided to leave the national team after the European Championship."

Kroos: "The reasons for my retirement were to spend more time with my family, secondly because now there are players who deserve to play more and I didn’t want to reach the time when they would come and tell me it was better for me to retire. So I wanted to decide"

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1588525999838625793

IMHO, I it's good that Kroos is not coming back to the German team. It's time for a new German team, because we've seen in the last few tournaments that things aren't going well with the old team. Let's see what the young players are doing.  Cool

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Any international sports competition is political in a way, since there are countries participating in them...

For example Russia was disqualified from this world cup: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/russia-out-world-cup-2022-poland-advanced-ukraine-postponed-qualify/oxyxia6hvqgo5ljgj60wfnla

I wouldn't call this FIFA decision "political".
It is a necessary action for the well-being and comfort of all players.
The FIFA World Cup is, above all, an event that aims to bring people together through sport, something that Russia is unfortunately doing the opposite.
It is unfortunate that players without any fault are penalized for this, but it is necessary and I believe that even they (Russian players) understand the sanctions imposed by FIFA.

But I consider this political, because the victims are football players. While war is an action carried out by the government. I think footballers don't interfere in state affairs, but with FIFA's actions they are victims.

Apart from that, considering the previous world cup was held in Russia, how could we expel people who have received us so well.
In this case, I do not justify the actions of the Russian government in matters of war, but I regret that Russian football players have become victims of all these actions.

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November 04, 2022, 05:07:08 PM
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In Iran there is also quite a lot to do about the participation of the national team in the tournament. There is even an organization that has sent an official letter to FIFA through a lawyer asking for the country to be excluded, because in that country also inhumane things happen according to their sources. But I think you can notice or criticize things in every country. it seems to me that FIFA will go along with this and of course would not exclude Iran from participating. Italy of course still wants to participate through this back door. Although you might just have to leave a group of 3 instead of adding another country so late.

Oh.. so they are targeting Iran now? This is really getting ridiculous. If they want to ban countries, then the first on the list should be the hosts (Qatar). Thousands of migrant workers died during the construction of the world cup stadiums due to inhumane working conditions, and hardly anyone received compensation for their deaths. Politics should be separate from sports. That is why we had North Korea participating in one of the FIFA world cups. Banning countries can be counterproductive and won't contribute anything to the world peace.

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Any international sports competition is political in a way, since there are countries participating in them...

For example Russia was disqualified from this world cup: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/russia-out-world-cup-2022-poland-advanced-ukraine-postponed-qualify/oxyxia6hvqgo5ljgj60wfnla

I wouldn't call this FIFA decision "political".
It is a necessary action for the well-being and comfort of all players.
The FIFA World Cup is, above all, an event that aims to bring people together through sport, something that Russia is unfortunately doing the opposite.
It is unfortunate that players without any fault are penalized for this, but it is necessary and I believe that even they (Russian players) understand the sanctions imposed by FIFA.

But I consider this political, because the victims are football players. While war is an action carried out by the government. I think footballers don't interfere in state affairs, but with FIFA's actions they are victims.
Apart from that, considering the previous world cup was held in Russia, how could we expel people who have received us so well.
In this case, I do not justify the actions of the Russian government in matters of war, but I regret that Russian football players have become victims of all these actions.

Totally agree with Vinaa77's point here. The players in any sport shouldn't be punished for what the politicians of their country are doing. Why shouldn't football players compete in the World Cup if they are good enough to qualify? They could have allow them to compete under a neutral flag just like they did with the last Olympic games when Russians competed under the Olympic flag and not Russian due to the doping scandal.

The FIFA World Cup is an event that aims to bring people together. And who says that Russian football players are OK with their country attacking another country? Maybe they are not OK with that, but are afraid to talk publicly. And now they are being punished because of something they have nothing to do with.

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November 04, 2022, 08:41:18 PM
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I have no idea what the exact reason is, but now Argentina is suddenly the big favorite behind Brazil. They are even estimated so highly by the bookmakers that they have approximately the same odds as Brazil. They have now passed France. Does anyone have an explanation for this? They now get up around 6.00 and for a long time they were around 10.0
I can't remember that special things happened that made Argentina suddenly a top favourite. Messi has gotten into a bit more form lately, could that have something to do with that? France has made little impression, but we have seen more often that practice matches (Nations League) mean nothing.

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November 05, 2022, 02:41:31 AM
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I have no idea what the exact reason is, but now Argentina is suddenly the big favorite behind Brazil. They are even estimated so highly by the bookmakers that they have approximately the same odds as Brazil. They have now passed France. Does anyone have an explanation for this? They now get up around 6.00 and for a long time they were around 10.0
I can't remember that special things happened that made Argentina suddenly a top favourite. Messi has gotten into a bit more form lately, could that have something to do with that? France has made little impression, but we have seen more often that practice matches (Nations League) mean nothing.

I have always considered Argentina as the only team that is capable of challenging Brazil in the 2022 World Cup. I was surprised to see France being given better odds when compared to Argentina. But now sportsbooks have adjusted the odds, since France is in very bad shape. Both Paul Pogba and N'Golo Kanté are out of the world cup and it will have a big negative impact on the prospects of France. On the other hand, the Argentina team is intact, as the injuries to Dybala and Messi are not that serious. Angel Di Maria is also recovering from his hamstring injury.

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November 05, 2022, 01:06:15 PM
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Argentina should always be one of the favourites. They have Messi of course, but apart from that they have many more strong players. Brazil is arguably better, I think France too but England and other teams are definitely not better than Argentina. England and Spain dominate in club football, but internationally it has been quite disappointing in recent years.

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On a Croatian online portal, I came across a very interesting list of injured players who will probably miss the world football championship. The list is really impressive. Here is part of the list:

Croatia: Kalinic, Vida?
Belgium: Lukaku, Meunier?
Canada: Hutchinson
Morocco: Louza
Netherlands: Wijnaldum
England: James, Walker-Peters, Chilwell, Walker?
Wales: Bale? Lawrence, Norrington-Davies
Argentina: Dybala, di Maria? Paredes, Romero
France: N'Golo Kante, Pogba, Fofana, Varane? Hernandez ?
Germany: Werner, Reus, Neuer?
Brazil: Richarlison, Melo
Portugal: Jota, Neto

Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/tko-zbog-ozljeda-propusta-svjetsko-prvenstvo-i-ciji-je-nastup-upitan/2409059.aspx

A lot of really good players will be missing from the World Cup. Which national team will have the biggest problem because of that?
Do you have any additional information about player injuries in the most important national teams?

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November 05, 2022, 04:06:53 PM
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On a Croatian online portal, I came across a very interesting list of injured players who will probably miss the world football championship. The list is really impressive. Here is part of the list:

Croatia: Kalinic, Vida?
Belgium: Lukaku, Meunier?
Canada: Hutchinson
Morocco: Louza
Netherlands: Wijnaldum
England: James, Walker-Peters, Chilwell, Walker?
Wales: Bale? Lawrence, Norrington-Davies
Argentina: Dybala, di Maria? Paredes, Romero
France: N'Golo Kante, Pogba, Fofana, Varane? Hernandez ?
Germany: Werner, Reus, Neuer?
Brazil: Richarlison, Melo
Portugal: Jota, Neto

Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/tko-zbog-ozljeda-propusta-svjetsko-prvenstvo-i-ciji-je-nastup-upitan/2409059.aspx

A lot of really good players will be missing from the World Cup. Which national team will have the biggest problem because of that?
Do you have any additional information about player injuries in the most important national teams?
Many star players have absent at World Cup 2022 and all national team have each player absent, actually very sad with problem faced by England national team because they have absent many main player,
England: James, Walker-Peters, Chilwell, Walker?. Seems have not completed list named absent for England like Reece James. Have many defender player absent for England and Southgate need to find position leaving by them.

Germany: Werner, Reus, Neuer?I doubt with Werner and Reus can participants in World Cup for Germany because seems serious injured get by them, except with Neuer have comeback today with Bayern Munich and into starting eleven against Bochum.

FIFA have think one more time if later have World Cup held on middle competition still running, many players have absent because have busy schedule match with their team, actually European national team just have without two weeks rest preparing for World Cup because Primer League, Serie A and La Liga postponed at 11 November.

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November 05, 2022, 05:53:49 PM
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I have no idea what the exact reason is, but now Argentina is suddenly the big favorite behind Brazil. They are even estimated so highly by the bookmakers that they have approximately the same odds as Brazil. They have now passed France. Does anyone have an explanation for this? They now get up around 6.00 and for a long time they were around 10.0
I can't remember that special things happened that made Argentina suddenly a top favourite. Messi has gotten into a bit more form lately, could that have something to do with that? France has made little impression, but we have seen more often that practice matches (Nations League) mean nothing.

I have always considered Argentina as the only team that is capable of challenging Brazil in the 2022 World Cup. I was surprised to see France being given better odds when compared to Argentina. But now sportsbooks have adjusted the odds, since France is in very bad shape. Both Paul Pogba and N'Golo Kanté are out of the world cup and it will have a big negative impact on the prospects of France. On the other hand, the Argentina team is intact, as the injuries to Dybala and Messi are not that serious. Angel Di Maria is also recovering from his hamstring injury.

Argentina no doubt have messi but as a team they are not strong enough to win the WC. I think Chances this time are with Germany and Brazil but we can never preict with certanity that who will lift FIFA WC.
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November 05, 2022, 08:43:20 PM
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FIFA have think one more time if later have World Cup held on middle competition still running, many players have absent because have busy schedule match with their team, actually European national team just have without two weeks rest preparing for World Cup because Primer League, Serie A and La Liga postponed at 11 November.

But how is it different when the World Cup was held in June? Many leagues end in May and players have few weeks to rest and prepare for the World Cup. It similar now when matches in most leagues ends this weekend and players have few weeks to rest and prepare for the World Cup.

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November 05, 2022, 08:50:18 PM
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I have no idea what the exact reason is, but now Argentina is suddenly the big favorite behind Brazil. They are even estimated so highly by the bookmakers that they have approximately the same odds as Brazil. They have now passed France. Does anyone have an explanation for this? They now get up around 6.00 and for a long time they were around 10.0
I can't remember that special things happened that made Argentina suddenly a top favourite. Messi has gotten into a bit more form lately, could that have something to do with that? France has made little impression, but we have seen more often that practice matches (Nations League) mean nothing.

I have always considered Argentina as the only team that is capable of challenging Brazil in the 2022 World Cup. I was surprised to see France being given better odds when compared to Argentina. But now sportsbooks have adjusted the odds, since France is in very bad shape. Both Paul Pogba and N'Golo Kanté are out of the world cup and it will have a big negative impact on the prospects of France. On the other hand, the Argentina team is intact, as the injuries to Dybala and Messi are not that serious. Angel Di Maria is also recovering from his hamstring injury.

I cannot say that Argentina is the best team entering the World Cup but they are certainly one of the favorites. This Argentina team is quite capable.

You know, Argentina team has not looked so sharp since 2014. And after the injury problems in the France squad, I feel Argentina is actually better right now compared to France. About Brazil, I think that the attacking lineup is very effective. It should be noted that Casemiro is the only player in the midfield area who I think is at his best, and in defense the center backs are good, but the winger's backs are not at their peak, in my opinion.

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